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Title: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: stormeus on September 17, 2011, 01:18:42 am
Mario_Rinna has been very inactive, and my editor application has been under consideration for months with no response. No one has access to editing. The information is very outdated, and there are no new editors being added.

My suggestion is to either change the editing restrictions, or get a new, active sysop.
EDIT: Sysop = Main Admin or System Operator. Think of it as a wiki webmaster
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 17, 2011, 01:20:29 am
Agreed. I applied after Gandalf suggested it to me a few months ago, and I received no response either. I added information on many of the talk pages of what needed updating so admins on the wiki could do it themselves, but it seems someone thought it'd be funny to blank it out and not update anything so they could cover up their lack of work...

/me looks around angrily.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Ted on September 17, 2011, 01:23:06 am
I would disagree with changing the restrictions especially if it will allow any regular tom to go and change things willy nilly. It would be much better to have a few more active people to work on the wiki when need be.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 17, 2011, 01:24:11 am
I would disagree with changing the restrictions especially if it will allow any regular tom to go and change things willy nilly. It would be much better to have a few more active people to work on the wiki when need be.
Honestly if the SysOps were active, it wouldn't be an issue for anyone to change it anyway. Either situation would work just fine as long as someone is there to make it happen :P
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Zaila on September 17, 2011, 01:28:34 am
As far as i know, TeaM_Patton is working on keeping the wiki up to date.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 17, 2011, 01:30:28 am
As far as i know, TeaM_Patton is working on keeping the wiki up to date.
If he is, he's the only one.

http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_RPG_wiki:Editor (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_RPG_wiki:Editor)

Half the people listed aren't in Argo anymore, are inactive, or are too busy to edit anything.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Salmonella on September 17, 2011, 02:11:36 pm
Patton is doing a great job as far as i know, He helped me with a wiki problem :)
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Patton on September 17, 2011, 02:14:25 pm
I would disagree with changing the restrictions especially if it will allow any regular tom to go and change things willy nilly. It would be much better to have a few more active people to work on the wiki when need be.

This, we had problems with spammers and still have bots who register on weekly basis; loosening the restriction could result in more of them registering and posting content. On the other hand, I do have a copy of the wiki on my local machine which I use to develop it - words, pictures and layouts - and just copy / paste on the wiki when I have it done; recent amount of free time has let me push a lot of changes I have planned, and hopefully much more will be added today and tomorrow if everything goes well. If you feel something is wrongly written or wish to add something, PM me over the forums or MSN, or make a talk page for it and it will be added.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Zaila on September 17, 2011, 06:16:54 pm
If he is, he's the only one.

http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_RPG_wiki:Editor (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_RPG_wiki:Editor)

Half the people listed aren't in Argo anymore, are inactive, or are too busy to edit anything.

Then help Patton with pointing out what needs to be changed / updated.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 17, 2011, 09:02:34 pm
Then help Patton with pointing out what needs to be changed / updated.
I did. Someone I don't need to name, (although it's fairly obvious who), went in and blanked out every talk page I mentioned updates on without updating anything. I tried to help out those who still update it, but a certain person seems to prefer covering things up instead...
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: stormeus on September 18, 2011, 04:15:48 am
While I know Patton has been very helpful around the wiki, we can't be relying on one editor for everything. If Patton ever goes inactive, all work comes to a halt, which negates the point of having a wiki in the first place.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Exterminator on September 18, 2011, 09:05:45 am
Maybe promote patton to sysop?
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 18, 2011, 09:08:36 am
Maybe promote patton to sysop?
He definitely deserves it, but the only guy capable of that besides the Server Owners is quite inactive himself...
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: JDC on September 18, 2011, 02:17:56 pm
Promote Patton to Sysop and allow Argonath Administration to update their own info.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Seanolk on September 18, 2011, 04:46:55 pm
Promote Patton to Sysop and allow Argonath Administration to update their own info.

I totally agree on this.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: stormeus on September 18, 2011, 06:51:09 pm
I totally agree on this.

I agree with agreeing with that.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 18, 2011, 08:42:58 pm
I agree with agreeing with that.
I agree with your agreement as well.

Edit: Well it seems someone with rights prefers to taunt users than update pages...

Quote
- No one's covering anything. We just don't need a captain obvious here.
Don't need to name names, but that was much less than professional. Thanks for editing my own page to provoke. It's very much appreciated.

Seriously, this is ridiculous. Can't someone just update these pages so we can actually use the wiki? In it's current state, it's next to useless to us...
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Mario_Rinna on September 19, 2011, 11:09:54 am
You were denied, SugarD.

Now. I don't have admin rights on wiki. And never had.

I cannot promote users, I cannot delete pages, I cannot fix many things I would like to.

Editing talk pages is a waste of time cause no one with the admin rights reads them.

"Sysops" are Gandalf, Aragorn and Sauron. Still want new "sysops"? Yeah, me too. :D
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 19, 2011, 11:11:57 am
You were denied, SugarD.
Thank you. That's all I wanted to know.

Edit: Just in case it comes off as such, my anger is not directed at any single person here. I'm mad at basically everyone in charge. There's many people set up to handle things and right now only 1-2 at most even log into it. If anyone takes what I say as personal, I do apologize. That is not my intention.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Mario_Rinna on September 19, 2011, 11:22:43 am
Mario_Rinna has been very inactive, and my editor application has been under consideration for months with no response. No one has access to editing. The information is very outdated, and there are no new editors being added.

My suggestion is to either change the editing restrictions, or get a new, active sysop.
EDIT: Sysop = Main Admin or System Operator. Think of it as a wiki webmaster
I told Gandalf about your application the day I got it. What happened after that is not my problem.

Thank you. That's all I wanted to know.

Edit: Just in case it comes off as such, my anger is not directed at any single person here. I'm mad at basically everyone in charge. There's many people set up to handle things and right now only 1-2 at most even log into it. If anyone takes what I say as personal, I do apologize. That is not my intention.
Welcome.

Instead of pointing at outdated things, you could actually update the info and send it to Patton.

Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: JayL on September 20, 2011, 02:13:10 am
There's no need to take anyone out of their place or something IMO...

What I would suggest is to give some rights to the servers leaders so they add the info of their respective communities. But there's just no point to bureucratize a damn wiki. I mean, it's a wiki. Not a game server. Wiki's about writing info, not answering reports banning people bla bla bla. One guy with permissions to defend the wiki from things such as bots and then a few editors would be enough, and not a bureaucratic admin structure.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 20, 2011, 02:15:31 am
There's no need to take anyone out of their place or something IMO...

What I would suggest is to give some rights to the servers leaders so they add the info of their respective communities. But there's just no point to bureucratize a damn wiki. I mean, it's a wiki. Not a game server. Wiki's about writing info, not answering reports banning people bla bla bla. One guy with permissions to defend the wiki from things such as bots and then a few editors would be enough, and not a bureaucratic admin structure.
The problem is the people on there now are generally inactive. Some of the server leaders already have access, but they don't use it. There's also A LOT of missing or outdated information. The point of the wiki was to move all the general information to one place so it could be easy to find and quickly updated, rather than relying on a billion hidden stickied topics on 10 different various forums.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: stormeus on September 20, 2011, 12:46:38 pm
I don't see why we use the editor group, anyways. Just make the autoconfirmed users (registered 4+ days) as editors. Also, if the owners aren't comfortable with giving sysop privileges, then another user group can be made.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Mario_Rinna on September 24, 2011, 02:59:27 pm
The problem is the people on there now are generally inactive.
Don't generalize.

Some of the server leaders already have access, but they don't use it.
Only Boromir.

There's also A LOT of missing or outdated information. The point of the wiki was to move all the general information to one place so it could be easy to find and quickly updated, rather than relying on a billion hidden stickied topics on 10 different various forums.
Instead of moaning about it, you could apply to be an edi-

Oh, wait.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: SugarD on September 24, 2011, 08:06:24 pm
Instead of moaning about it, you could apply to be an edi-

Oh, wait.
Not funny.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: newton_alex on September 24, 2011, 09:13:03 pm
Not funny.

It was actually....



Anyway, YEH BOI IM APPLYING SOON
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: EliteTerm on September 25, 2011, 12:33:17 am
I thought it was clear that provoking users is not permitted on the forums?

The next time this happens, this will be taken up to the forum administration and you will get more than just a measly warn.
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: JDC on September 25, 2011, 11:55:59 am
It was actually....



Anyway, YEH BOI IM APPLYING SOON

With such attitude, look at yourself before provoking administration members next time. People who are close to you have even requested bans on you because of your attitude, and with the way things are going we just might grant their request soon.

As for the topic, why not allow admins to edit their own information?
Title: Re: Get a new Wiki sysop
Post by: Gandalf on September 25, 2011, 11:59:39 am
New sysop has been set. If you wish to know who, check out the wiki.
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