Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Dan_The_Noob on September 21, 2011, 05:48:12 pm
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hmm... i couldnt help but notice that Combat shotgun and NRG are becoming extremely common...
i was wondering if anyone else was kinda getting bored of it...
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I'm not bored, combat is a good gun. NRG is a good bike.
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Honestly.. they're overrated like Sawn-off shotguns in 0.2x
Only reason why they have NRGs is to escape from the police.
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I do not think they will be removed, but what can I say. The NRG-500 is a great bike, though it can go over it's limits with the tappy thing and wheelie.
The combat shotgun is a overpowered gun, but I do not really care about the usage of it. If we come to myself, I rarely use it. I rather go with Deagle, regular Shotgun and an UZI.
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Honestly.. they're overrated like Sawn-off shotguns in 0.2x
Oh god..dont remind me D:
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There will always be a most effective weapon, about which people will constantly moan about when killed with it.
Bring back dual Mic's (but leave Tec-9's single wielded).
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You cry that Dual Weps are overpowered They get removed Now its combat what happens when combat gets removed? You cry that deagle is overpowered?
If you cant catch a NRG then you are unfit for police duty
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I wonder when some people will stop moaning and play the game as it is.
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I don't get sick of the Combat shotgun, It's a good gun and many use it. The NRG can be good for RPing (if you go on bike cruising, But thats rare) It's also a good free-roam vehicle. And about Dual mic's, I don't care.
If you know how to Lag-shoot you can easily kill the suspect, And if you can't, try again.
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no
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Anyone else moaning cuz' Combat Shotgun and NRG??
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I wonder what the reaction would be if they both would get removed..
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I wonder what the reaction would be if they both would get removed..
I'm not even thinking about that.
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Only reason why they have NRGs is to escape from the police.
NRG are not really used to escape, they are used to get on roofs, for example at Commerce and then start shooting cops from here.
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NRG are not really used to escape, they are used to get on roofs, for example at Commerce and then start shooting cops from here.
You're SWAT, right? What do you prefer morally, owning with skill and SMG or rambo and combat shotgun.
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You're SWAT, right? What do you prefer morally, owning with skill and SMG or rambo and combat shotgun.
I'm not here to speak as a SWAT member. Everyone is free to use and do what he wants. I was just answering to EliteTerm that NRG are mostly not used to escape.
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I'm not here to speak as a SWAT member. Everyone is free to use and do what he wants. I was just answering to Murt that NRG are mostly not used to escape.
That doesn't answer my question. What do you, as a SWAT member prefer in combat, SMG or Combat.
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That doesn't answer my question. What do you, as a SWAT member prefer in combat, SMG or Combat.
As a SWAT member, I've to use SMG as primary weapon. So I'll say SMG.
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As a SWAT member, I've to use SMG as primary weapon. So I'll say SMG.
Alright, fair enough.
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Combat shotgun is annoying, haven't used it ever since i found out how annoying it is to get shot at by it ( years ago :P ).. would be nice if you guys could somehow convince someone to remove them
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Combat shotgun is hella annoying, 1clip can easily kill you within 2sec
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I wonder when some people will stop moaning and play the game as it is.
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The only thing that annoys me are the criminals that use the NRG they way they do. :roll:
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Here we go.....
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Ive learned that many people who use combat cant kill with any other weapon... its pretty easy to kill a spazz hore with deagle + smg and i some times use sniper (ownt mode.)
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I use Deagle the most. Maybe combat sometimes when the other has low HP.
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Anyone else sick of people saying "moan"?
Screw the Combat Shotgun too.
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Anyone else sick of people saying "moan"?
Screw the Combat Shotgun too.
That word is used far too freely and on cases that are not actualy moan.
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I'm too much of a fucking bitch to handle any resistance in combat situations guys, ban combat and nrg.
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Cases like this I thank that I have a ping of 300... Significantly increases your resistance against Combat Shotguns, trust me. :lol: I have to be honest the gun annoys me sometimes but hey it's a gun everyone can get... So why not trying to train yourself as a Combat Shotgun shooter or find a gun that is effective against it? (deagle, tec9, hydra [:D] )
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Another pointless moaning thread.
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Everybody is, suspects aren't good unless they have that combat and nrg.
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Another pointless moaning thread.
another pointless comment...
also this aint a moan topic, i was jus checking if others are as annoyed of these 2 things being the only thing players use most the time
i bow down to the Deagle users for making it interesting...
in other news :P
bring dual weapons back (cept tec9)
even if u had to buy them as dual for like.. triple price... or something
if we can come up with a reason for combat to be removed thatd be pretty cool...
as for NRG... im mostly just sick of the fact that high ping + lag = cant catch a NRG, even on an NRG ...
and suspects dont use it to get around, like they should, instead they do the "LV run" as i start referring to it... when they shoot somebody and blast on NRG to LV highway as fast as they can and then hide where they want.
where are the suspects with Patriot.. or a garbage truck... something interesting
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It was designed like this in the first place.
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I wonder when some people will stop moaning and play the game as it is.
Thats true, people biitch and moan about a combat shotgun while a Deagle is actually more powerful. Compare 1 deagle shot to 1 combat shot. ;)
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Yes Ollie, but you can express yourself in another way. :D
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anyone else sick of stupid cunt arses making stupid cunt arse topics about stupid cunt arse things?
I am.
@Topic creator
Why don't you use NRG and Combat shotgun? :/
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Solution: Make the most powerful of weapons and vehicles harder to get so people don't flood the server with them, and have everyone and their mom using them like they do now. Then they can still be used without so much moaning, and people won't abuse the living crap out of them. :P
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Solution: Make the most powerful of weapons and vehicles harder to get so people don't flood the server with them, and have everyone and their mom using them like they do now. Then they can still be used without so much moaning, and people won't abuse the living crap out of them. :P
Bad idea.
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Bad idea.
How is that a bad idea? That would solve all the moaning.
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Go ahead, remove them.
Then examine the look on your face when the people find the next best thing to moan about.
Dan, if you cannot stop posting useless content in the Ideas board then do not let it spread everywhere else.
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Dan, if you cannot stop posting useless content in the Ideas board then do not let it spread everywhere else.
cant get much more proof that you jus dont like me for posting on forums ...
1. this aint in the ideas board
2. this aint an idea
3. its not useless
I am.
@Topic creator
Why don't you use NRG and Combat shotgun? :/
because i aim to reduce moan in the server...
1. i dont use /su unless forced or told to on cop duty
2. i do nothing but drive around most the time, otherwise people moan
3. no
anyone else sick of stupid cunt arses making stupid cunt arse topics about stupid cunt arse things?
not forum muted yet?? wtf O-o
Solution: Make the most powerful of weapons and vehicles harder to get so people don't flood the server with them, and have everyone and their mom using them like they do now. Then they can still be used without so much moaning, and people won't abuse the living crap out of them. :P
nothing harder than impossible :devroll:
the point of this topic was to gather peoples opinion to see if im jus being a d**k or not..
seems majority of the server hate either NRG or Combat...
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Was quite funny as i tried some other games a while ago, i saw the death messages and wich weapon i was killed with.. Spas 12 AKA Combat Shotgun :lol:
Its overpowered in many games, we cant do anything about it.
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Its overpowered in many games, we cant do anything about it.
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Change the amount of damage a player takes from a combat shotgun with OnPlayerTakeDamage.
To give an answer to the topic title. No neither bother or make me sick in the slightest.
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Change the amount of damage a player takes from a combat shotgun with OnPlayerTakeDamage.
To give an answer to the topic title. No neither bother or make me sick in the slightest.
Combat only takes about 10 points of HP (Close Range, I mean super close)
Deagle can take over half your hp points with a single shot (Medium range)
Now how is a combat overpowered?
The server is suppose to suffer because your a shit dmer?
Go to a DM server and learn how to shoot and stop being lazy
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Was quite funny as i tried some other games a while ago, i saw the death messages and wich weapon i was killed with.. Spas 12 AKA Combat Shotgun :lol:
Its overpowered in many games, we cant do anything about it.
lol so true
Combat only takes about 10 points of HP (Close Range, I mean super close)
Deagle can take over half your hp points with a single shot (Medium range)
Now how is a combat overpowered?
The server is suppose to suffer because your a shit dmer?
Go to a DM server and learn how to shoot and stop being lazy
lol according to you we have 50hp, seeing it takes less than 1 magazine to kill someone with it..
its basically a full auto deagle..
also why dont you leave if you just want to DM...
take your towtruck with you :devroll:
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Combat only takes about 10 points of HP (Close Range, I mean super close)
Deagle can take over half your hp points with a single shot (Medium range)
Now how is a combat overpowered?
The server is suppose to suffer because your a shit dmer?
Go to a DM server and learn how to shoot and stop being lazy
1. Deagle does roughly 40hp per hit, not 55 like you are painting it.
2. Combat shotgun fires at a much greater speed and fires pellets that spread, increasing the chance of gaining hits on the victim.
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lol according to you we have 50hp, seeing it takes less than 1 magazine to kill someone with it..
its basically a full auto deagle..
also why dont you leave if you just want to DM...
take your towtruck with you :devroll:
If you have 50 HP, Yes it will take like 5-6 shots to kill you. If you still get pissed off, learn to f**king defend yourself. This just shows f**king retarded you are. Aldo was implying to learn to shoot, not death-match, understand the whole phrase.
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hmm... i couldnt help but notice that Moaning and Crying are becoming extremely common...
i was wondering if anyone else was kinda getting bored of it...
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Since when are akimbo weapons overpowered? They have giant recoil. Imo if scriptable, there should be option to either buy guns akimbo or single, Micro Uzis are badass. However akimbo weps should cost more.
NRG - sure, let's remove all planes, bikes, boats, whatever. They all overpowered.
Spas 12 - there's a reason why it's expensive.
hell, I would actually like the RPG-7 to be buyable. For shitload of moneys. RP Al-Quaida, win.
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Oh, this topic again.
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Since when are akimbo weapons overpowered?
People used to run around the target while blasting with dual SMG's at point blank range. Although looked kinda funny (especially when two people had dual SMG's and were running around each other), people were moaning about that as they moan about combat shotgun nowadays.
And I do agree that an RPG-7 would be nice, though should be limited and have effective restrictions on access (money is not a restriction at all). And Molotovs.
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IMO, its annoying when you see a suspect on an NRG, Mafia skin, or even a balla skin... You take one guess that they have a Combat.. They crash, fall off their bike, and spray the shit out of your car with a Combat. This has happend to me a lot, and about 5 times I WASNT a cop, they still did it...
Over rated and lame.
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Anyone else break down laughing?
This is Grand Theft Auto.
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People used to run around the target while blasting with dual SMG's at point blank range. Although looked kinda funny (especially when two people had dual SMG's and were running around each other), people were moaning about that as they moan about combat shotgun nowadays.
And I do agree that an RPG-7 would be nice, though should be limited and have effective restrictions on access (money is not a restriction at all). And Molotovs.
There's no molotovs? How come I never noticed it...how are we suspossed to roleplay riots without molotovs :OO
maybe there should be some rare way to get weapons like RPG-7 or molotovs, thru something like plant weed - maybe a 'smuggle' that would spawn the weapons at random location, people would have to get it..its not much of restriction but at least it wouldn't make every millionaire walk with an RPG-7, I don't really have any idea
and yeah I know it's funny, but really, akimbo SMGs don't do THAT much damage...for me at least, it's possible to beat a akimbo-junkie with being defensive and using a shotgun.
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That's the game - Get used to it.
I seriously don't have a problem. To be honest, deagle is much better when you are fighting with someone who holds a combat-shotgun as you can take him down with only 3 shots (When no wearing vest). The only thing you need to have is: 1) Good aim (Not perfect, just as a regular player who can shot a cow -_-), 2) Don't stay only in 1 position (run around him so he cannot have a good visual and make it difficult for him) 3)Kill him through a fatality move with your catana (as D.P.D would do!)
As reference to the NRG Bike - What's the problem with it? It's not really easy for cops to take him down, but either not so difficult. You really want everything to be easy? Come on..
Of course, no removal.
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The use of combat shotguns became popular since the San Fierro movement began promoting them to great effectiveness. In a counter move, the SAPD began issuing combat shotguns as the quintessential weapon against combating high powered groups such as Gvardia and the Corleones through their SRU units. Since then, we have seen fire being fought with fire, with neither side conceding to defeat openly.
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Only reason why they have NRGs is to escape from the police.
I used to have one, and I don't RP as a criminal. I just love motorbikes! <3
3)Kill him through a fatality move with your catana (as D.P.D would do!)
What a reputation we have... :lol:
We can't have chainsaws can we? On Paruni I went on a chainsaw massacre, and killed a lot of people before I was finally stopped :roll:
Katanas are epic, and are good for RP too...
Fist fighting, with certain buttons, can almost guarantee you to win! Works for me anyway...
Basically, melee weapons are awesome ;)
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1. Deagle does roughly 40hp per hit, not 55 like you are painting it.
After some test Combat can kill a person with full hp and armour (200hp points) with a full clip(7 shot) at very close range
At very close range damage delt will be "28.57142857142857" Rounded to "30 HP Points"
Deagle same range and armour/hp (200hp points) takes 4-5 (this will be based of 4 shots)
50 HP Points
20-10 hp difference
Now rate of fire
Combat Full Clip(7 bullets) 2.93 Seconds
Deagle Full Clip( 7 bullets) 5.17 Seconds
Accuracy (Medium Range [most shootouts at this range])
When the combat shoots you most likely wont get hit by the full force due to scatter effect which means power & accuracy is effected
When the deagle shoots you you get hit by the full force of the gun which means only accuracy is affected by the shooter and power by range
I encourage those who think my test are BS to conduct your own and post your results
tl;dr
Combat is not over powered
its basically a full auto deagle..
also why dont you leave if you just want to DM...
take your towtruck with you :devroll:
@its basically a full auto deagle..
Combat is semi auto idiot
@also why dont you leave if you just want to DM...
Aldo was implying to learn to shoot, not death-match, understand the whole phrase.
@take your towtruck with you
Go cry
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Simply, No, And stop making topics about the same thing over and over, Give up.
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mp5 is overpowered youguise, remove it
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fists are overpowered, they have unlimited ammo and everyone has them remove fists and legs so people can't kill with kicking and stomping
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remove cars they're overpowered and give an advantage
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Cops say remove op gun,criminals say it's not op and this topic is moan basicly all of people are same and reacting same,therefore everyone allways gona support own side and there never gona be found solution,yet combat could be removed just for 1-2 days,to people see how it was there and what they learned from it .
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tl;dr
Combat is not over powered
@its basically a full auto deagle..
Combat is semi auto idiot
lol calling me an idiot when your wrong :devroll:
also the towtruck thing was a joke...
why the hell did this become a troll topic, or a topic where all the dingbats come out their caves and say "oh not this again" or smartass remarks like "blablabla is overpowered, lets remove it"
and to all the "play the game as it is" people... bring back dual wield weapons, and every other feature removed and THEN say that...
this topic as i already said was to see the opinions from everyone else...
also, Aldo, next time you do the test... crouch with combat and also have the person bunnyhop in circles...
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Man, If you stop crying and learn how to shoot. It's a difference. Coz if you don't know how to like lag shoot (That is quite easy) You'll get owned, Even if its just a deagle fight. But who gives a damn, Go practice on shooting and team skills etc (what ever you need to become better at) And then you can show them. Easy as that.
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lol calling me an idiot when your wrong :devroll:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchi_SPAS-12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchi_SPAS-12)
Rate of fire 4 rounds/s (semi-auto)
Now your 2x the idiot
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@Aldo
You do not have to re-press the left mouse button to shoot another shell from a Combat shotgun. Then again, you don't have to re-press it for almost any weapon in the game.
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@Aldo
You do not have to re-press the left mouse button to shoot another shell from a Combat shotgun. Then again, you don't have to re-press it for almost any weapon in the game.
exactly my point
full auto as in... rapid fire and no click spam involved
in real life its semi automatic, in game its fully automatic
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exactly my point
full auto as in... rapid fire and no click spam involved
in real life its semi automatic, in game its fully automatic
I don't think that's a reason to remove it.
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You know this topic is getting verry interesting especialy the part where people moan about people moaning who moan about people moaning who get tired of people moaning :lol:
Now back to the topic itself
to awnser the direct topic's question if the Combat Shotgun and NRG are annoying then the strait awnser is yes
But mainly because the are over used these days even without a gun you get shot by a combat shotgun :lol: and thats in my personal view getting extremely boring.
And the NRG when i used to be on cop duty allot of criminals used to to cop bait so that got tired and annoying.
But both weapon and bike on itself can be fun if not overused atleast this is my personal view on it
Change the amount of damage a player takes from a combat shotgun with OnPlayerTakeDamage.
its a possibility i suppose
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Now back to the topic itself
to awnser the direct topic's question if the Combat Shotgun and NRG are annoying then the strait awnser is yes
But mainly because the are over used these days even without a gun you get shot by a combat shotgun :lol: and thats in my personal view getting extremely boring.
And the NRG when i used to be on cop duty allot of criminals used to to cop bait so that got tired and annoying.
But both weapon and bike on itself can be fun if not overused atleast this is my personal view on it
its a possibility i suppose
yea, its more how common they are that i was talking about for this topic.. jus discussion
its getting a bit old when a random cop or suspect dives out their car blasts u with combat and drives off...
or a NRG zipping back and forward at LSPD
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exactly my point
full auto as in... rapid fire and no click spam involved
in real life its semi automatic, in game its fully automatic
IRL it's pump action or semi-auto, in-game it's semi-automatic, not full automatic. There is a recoil animation that slows down your shots, if it would fire as fast as M4 for example, that would be automatic.
It just fires faster than shotgun, that's all. You can actually beat guys using it if you switch to fist quickly after each shot, do some dodging and hiding..
It's ridiculous that some cry-babies want to change damage of weapons..remember despite the fact it's argo you're still playing GTA, incase you don't like how weapons handle - go play another game or get hax and get banned, I don't know.
Incase you're THAT desperate, make it more expensive. Or make the loosy shotguns (regular shotgun, double barrel) less expensive.
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IRL it's pump action or semi-auto, in-game it's semi-automatic, not full automatic. There is a recoil animation that slows down your shots, if it would fire as fast as M4 for example, that would be automatic.
The game is not real life.
In the game you fire consequtive shots while holding the trigger. This is by definition automatic.
Semi-automatic means when you pull the trigger, you fire one shot only and you have to release and pull the trigger again to fire another shot. Your rate of fire is pretty much dependant on how fast you pull the trigger.
Actual rate of fire does not determine if a weapon is full or semi automatic.
But despite all this technical talk, Combat shotgun is still beatable. I remember killing Drix once with a pump-action while he had Combat.
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but holding down LMB has nothing to do with that, since then you'd say that colts are automatic too, since you can hold down LMB...
the weapons have limited rate of fire, so who cares much ? it doesn't take much skill to fire regular shotgun at max rate of fire, lol...is there really any difference between holding and pressing LMB? personally i don't think so
spas-12 isn't full auto in the game, it's semi...however YES, it is faster than other shotguns...that's why it's overpowered. Using other shotguns you have to use your brain and move to avoid shots, whereas due to (FOR A SHOTGUN) good Spas-12's rate of fire, all you need to do is stand in one place and spam bullets, as long as you have good aim
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but holding down LMB has nothing to do with that, since then you'd say that colts are automatic too, since you can hold down LMB...
the weapons have limited rate of fire, so who cares much ? it doesn't take much skill to fire regular shotgun at max rate of fire, lol...is there really any difference between holding and pressing LMB? personally i don't think so
spas-12 isn't full auto in the game, it's semi...however YES, it is faster than other shotguns...that's why it's overpowered. Using other shotguns you have to use your brain and move to avoid shots, whereas due to (FOR A SHOTGUN) good Spas-12's rate of fire, all you need to do is stand in one place and spam bullets, as long as you have good aim
holding LMB = full auto
in game most weapons are full auto
excluding Deagle, Pumpy, Sawnoff , Cuntgun and Sniper...
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holding LMB = full auto
in game most weapons are full auto
excluding Deagle, Pumpy, Sawnoff , Cuntgun and Sniper...
let's remove them all, they are overpowered
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looks like my game is broken then, if I hold down LMB the Deagle fires 'full auto' as well.. not joking.
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Because Deagle/9mm in GTA is technically automatic. Just with a slow rate of fire.
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looks like my game is broken then, if I hold down LMB the Deagle fires 'full auto' as well.. not joking.
well i consider Deagle to be semi automatic, because of the recoil having such a long recovery time
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well i consider Deagle to be semi automatic, because of the recoil having such a long recovery time
If you can handle the Deagle, You can see that it does shoot quite fast, And it is powerfull too, Why do you think that cops get equipped with it instead of a 9mm against suspects? That IS because supects use heavy weapons, Such as combat, Deagle SMG (some of them) and maybe an M4. But hey, What if we add a spaz to the cops aswell? Then it's more than fair enough.
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If you can handle the Deagle, You can see that it does shoot quite fast, And it is powerfull too, Why do you think that cops get equipped with it instead of a 9mm against suspects? That IS because supects use heavy weapons, Such as combat, Deagle SMG (some of them) and maybe an M4. But hey, What if we add a spaz to the cops aswell? Then it's more than fair enough.
would dramatically shorten shootouts ruining 80% of the server RPs
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Oh, so shootouts ruin RP? Sure, remove attack button from civilians - that way they won't break any 'RP'
shootouts are part of roleplay...just like chases are. Just cause there is no 10000 /me doesn't mean you have to be butthurt cause of it.
and ye, using explanation of 'every suspects having heavy weapons' is very good to give regular cops best weapons in the game, hell yeah..
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Combat Shotgun - Based on the Italian SPAS-12, the combat shotgun uses a gas-operated repeater system much like any semi/fully automatic pistol or rifle. On a shell-by-shell basis, the firepower and range are only a bit greater than the regular shotgun. Given its semi-automatic functionality, however, the rate of fire is on par with that of the 9mm, meaning you'll be unloading much more ammunition on unsuspecting foes. Not only will rip through a group of enemies rather quickly, it also makes short work of cars and heli's as well. Sadly, you can't get two of these after reaching Hitman status, but then again, that might make the game entirely too easy. On the bright side though, you will be able to fire while moving and get an increased lock-on distance with some practice.
Enough Said
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why do you base on RL thing, when the stats in-game are different for almost every weapon?
but yes, calling pistols/spas 'full auto' just cause the delay between shots is smaller than with deagle, is wrong indeed. Full-auto is basicly full-auto, having to press or hold down LMB has nothing to do with it..
ex:
Tec-9 = full auto
Deagle = semi-auto
Pistols = semi-auto
Spas = semi-auto
you can say Spas is faster than any shotgun, but you can't say it's full auto...because it isn't
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Fire mode does not depend on rate of fire. Just because something shoots fast, does not make it full auto. That said, something firing with a slow rate of fire, does not make it semi auto, if it still shoots consecutive shots while holding down the trigger.
And stop bringing real life gun comparsions to guns in the game. They're irrelevant.
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Yes, full auto is when you can hold down the trigger and the bullets spray - but IG, you can see that even if you hold down LMB, character is seen pulling the trigger each shot, not HOLDING, with Spas for example. Thus, saying Spas is full-automatic, is wrong.
However MP5 is.
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Oh, so shootouts ruin RP? Sure, remove attack button from civilians - that way they won't break any 'RP'
no i said giving cops combat would ruin RP shootouts.
because EVERYONE would be packing combats then... cept for the real players
Yes, full auto is when you can hold down the trigger and the bullets spray - but IG, you can see that even if you hold down LMB, character is seen pulling the trigger each shot, not HOLDING, with Spas for example. Thus, saying Spas is full-automatic, is wrong.
However MP5 is.
actually u cant see the character do jackshit, cept for stand in a pose while the gun pumps out lead (full auto)
like it or not, spas, 9mm, etc are indeed full auto in GTA:SA ... until it is scriptable to change how guns fire (weapon handling .ini or watever it is) they will stay full auto
if it was semi auto, we'd all be f--ked because theyd fire 10 times as fast
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no i said giving cops combat would ruin RP shootouts.
because EVERYONE would be packing combats then... cept for the real players
actually u cant see the character do jackshit, cept for stand in a pose while the gun pumps out lead (full auto)
like it or not, spas, 9mm, etc are indeed full auto in GTA:SA ... until it is scriptable to change how guns fire (weapon handling .ini or watever it is) they will stay full auto
if it was semi auto, we'd all be f--ked because theyd fire 10 times as fast
Now I see why you call yourself a "Noob"
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Now I see why you call yourself a "Noob"
Don't start.
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Combat shotty:
Hold RMB, press ENTER or RETURN (or whatever you like) twice, switch to any decent weapon(let's say DEagle), aim@ the immobilized guy,hold LMB, watch the combat-shotgun-hero suffer.
NRG:
If you're cop trying to catch a criminal-> Special vehicles and advanced teamwork
If not-> Ram a shamal into the "victim" OR just follow the driver with any fast car, they always fall off their bikes eventually OR get some friends to cut the "victim" off.
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NRG's are not as annoying as you may think, shoot any tire out and watch the failing driver. Shoot the front tire NRG can no longer turn at high speeds and is forced to go in straight lines. Shoot the back tire and its pretty much a useless bike. The only advantage NRG's really have other then speed is that fact in SAMP everyone has perfect bike handling skills making it naturally more difficult to fall off a bike, also the reason Any bike can be a pain if you dont know what to do.
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SRU dealt with suspects on NRG's with fluidity - perhaps you may benefit from employing one as a consultant.
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if it was semi auto, we'd all be f--ked because theyd fire 10 times as fast
You mistaked semi auto with full auto in this post.
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You mistaked semi auto with full auto in this post.
You have mistaken rate of fire with firing mode in this topic.
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You have mistaken rate of fire with firing mode in this topic.
indeed, hard to concentrate with 5 cards of pr0n opened.
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You mistaked semi auto with full auto in this post.
nop, i just know that i can click faster than combat fires... itd be more like an assault rifle shotgun if it was semi :3
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nop, i just know that i can click faster than combat fires... itd be more like an assault rifle shotgun if it was semi :3
oh I understand now, you mean that if semi-auto guns would fire as fast as you pull your trigger, it would be pwnage?
well aight, but that doesn't mean that they are not semi. Cause they are semi. pulling the trigger as fast as you can doesn't make gun full-auto or anything, neither lack of it makes it semi-auto..
it's how GTA SA handles the weapons, and it still means that pistols are semi-auto.
and btw, even if you edit weapon.dat it's impossible to make them fire as fast as you pull the trigger, the only thing you can do is increase ROF to ridiculous amount, but then you can still hold the button to get max rate of fire.
so basicly,
won't ever happen
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oh I understand now, you mean that if semi-auto guns would fire as fast as you pull your trigger, it would be pwnage?
well aight, but that doesn't mean that they are not semi. Cause they are semi. pulling the trigger as fast as you can doesn't make gun full-auto or anything, neither lack of it makes it semi-auto..
it's how GTA SA handles the weapons, and it still means that pistols are semi-auto.
and btw, even if you edit weapon.dat it's impossible to make them fire as fast as you pull the trigger, the only thing you can do is increase ROF to ridiculous amount, but then you can still hold the button to get max rate of fire.
so basicly,
won't ever happen
actually it should be CLEO scriptable to have a gun made semi, but of course this is against Argo rules, so...
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I know a great SOLUTION, lets remove all the weapons and vehicles and we'll be there left empty handed like it was before in the world.
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I know a great SOLUTION, lets remove all the weapons and vehicles and we'll be there left empty handed like it was before in the world.
lol lets remove all weapons and vehicles that werent in Vice City :devroll:
but seriously.. its not that the guns or vehicles are Overpowered im worried about... its the amount they are overused i dislike...
maybe up the prices on the more powerful weapons... M4, SMG, Combat, Deagle
but doesnt bother me at all...
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Let's just enjoy the game and stop being a bunch of ninety five years old demented grannies.
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Let's just enjoy the game and stop being a bunch of ninety five years old demented grannies.
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I know a great SOLUTION, lets remove all the weapons and vehicles and we'll be there left empty handed like it was before in the world.
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Let's just enjoy the game and stop being a bunch of ninety five years old demented grannies.
Agree.
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actually it should be CLEO scriptable to have a gun made semi, but of course this is against Argo rules, so...
it would appear client-side only. prolly.
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SRU dealt with suspects on NRG's with fluidity - perhaps you may benefit from employing one as a consultant.
Yea we did : )
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hmm... i couldnt help but notice that Combat shotgun and NRG are becoming extremely common...
i was wondering if anyone else was kinda getting bored of it...
Nope.
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I say we issue Freecops with duel wielded Miniguns to stop the people using combats and NRG's. Problem solved.
But on a serious note, it's not the gun or the vehicle that's powerful. It's the person using it. I mean, I can't shoot for shit with a combat.
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it's not the gun or the vehicle that's powerful. It's the person using it.
True.
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But on a serious note, it's not the gun or the vehicle that's powerful. It's the person using it.
its not the powerful/effectiveness thats annoying... its how often the gun and bike are used instead of everything else...
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its not the powerful/effectiveness thats annoying... its how often the gun and bike are used instead of everything else...
well it's kinda common sense that everyone will try to use the best things, no?
remember that ppl spent shitload of cash on combat, while they could spent less on regular shotgun. in short, they earned it
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well it's kinda common sense that everyone will try to use the best things, no?
remember that ppl spent shitload of cash on combat, while they could spent less on regular shotgun. in short, they earned it
when 0.3d comes out, maybe scripters might find a way to rebalance all weapons :3
but until then...
i use 9mm, tec9 and the occasional Deagle... by "use" i mean carry.. i rarely fire at anything cept for RPing or tyre popping for fun...
also just because its there and you can afford it, doesnt mean it should be used...
Infernus, and NRG are getting kind of old its like "oh look suspect... oh they're on NRG/in Infernus"
or "oh look a suspect is pulling over for me " **BLAMBLAM with combat** "WTffffffuuukkkk"
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Son, nothing shall be rebalanced in way of changing weapon stats, prices - no problem.
We aren't some wannabe mod community, if you don't like the game find yourself another one.
'also just because its there and you can afford it, doesnt mean it should be used...'
lolwut son. yea, let's put a minigun on the middle of the map and say 'IT DOESNT MEAN TO BE USED NOBS'
'or "oh look a suspect is pulling over for me " **BLAMBLAM with combat** "WTffffffuuukkkk"'
/report
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Son, nothing shall be rebalanced in way of changing weapon stats, prices - no problem.
We aren't some wannabe mod community, if you don't like the game find yourself another one.
changing the price wont fix anything, because rich players are so rich we'd have to charge 1mil per gun to lower the usage
and also only 1 person has to buy a gun to be able to share 100s of them out around the server.
'also just because its there and you can afford it, doesnt mean it should be used...'
lolwut son. yea, let's put a minigun on the middle of the map and say 'IT DOESNT MEAN TO BE USED NOBS'
'or "oh look a suspect is pulling over for me " **BLAMBLAM with combat** "WTffffffuuukkkk"'
/report
i use /report when that happens as it is Deathmatching, also noany minigun... thats our "i'm a hacker" sign :3
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Why should combat and NRG be removed just because you're an incompetent ape that doesn't know how to fight against them?
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No need to call someone an "imcompetent ape" Ness ....
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Why should combat and NRG be removed just because you're an incompetent ape that doesn't know how to fight against them?
:rofl:
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Why should combat and NRG be removed just because you're an incompetent ape that doesn't know how to fight against them?
why should this topic be stamped as a moan/flame topic because people dont know how to read the first post?
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Fight fire with fire, meaning buy a combat get suspected and go on a NRG, then come back.
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why should this topic be stamped as a moan/flame topic because people dont know how to read the first post?
In your first post you are complaining about how NRG and Combat bore you
Like Aragorn said Can't handle dmers/abusive players? Go play the sims
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In your first post you are complaining about how NRG and Combat bore you
Like Aragorn said Can't handle dmers/abusive players? Go play the sims
didnt say anything about not being able to use it myself, or it needing removal... i jus said that theres wayyy too many of them in the server now.
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didnt say anything about not being able to use it myself, or it needing removal... i jus said that theres wayyy too many of them in the server now.
Enough Said
hmm... i couldnt help but notice that Combat shotgun and NRG are becoming extremely common...
i was wondering if anyone else was kinda getting bored of it...
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lol calling me an idiot when your wrong :devroll:
In what way was he incorrect? The combat shotgun is not a fully automatic weapon, it is semi automatic.
full auto as in... rapid fire and no click spam involved
in real life its semi automatic, in game its fully automatic
So, the desert eagle is fully automatic then?
Doesn't that make your "combat is a full auto deagle" (which isn't close to true anyway) argument rather pointless?
In the game you fire consequtive shots while holding the trigger. This is by definition automatic.
By your logic the desert eagle and the sniper rifle are also fully automatic, then.
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In what way was he incorrect? The combat shotgun is not a fully automatic weapon, it is semi automatic.
So, the desert eagle is fully automatic then?
Doesn't that make your "combat is a full auto deagle" (which isn't close to true anyway) argument rather pointless?
By your logic the desert eagle and the sniper rifle are also fully automatic, then.
Deagle is semi automatic, due to its long over-exhaggerated recoil
Combat has effectively no recoil... making it appear fully automatic when holding the mouse button
personally, if i use combat, i crouch and fire carefully... but it can easily fire rapidly without letting go of mouse, thus, automatic.
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Cases like this I thank that I have a ping of 300...
Yep :D
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By your logic the desert eagle and the sniper rifle are also fully automatic, then.
With low rates of fire, but yes.
edit: also firing single shots does not mean the fire mode isn't automatic/is semi-auto.
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why should this topic be stamped as a moan/flame topic because people dont know how to read the first post?
You made a moan topic, Don't blame us!
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why should this topic be stamped as a moan/flame topic because people dont know how to read the first post?
I did. Still a moan topic.
Suggestion for next: 'ADMINS PLS MEK LIMITED NUMBERS OF INFERNUSES CAUSE THEY TOO COMMON'
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Let's disable Vehicles and Weapons for suspects, And Equip cops with Miniguns and RPGs.
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'ADMINS PLS MEK LIMITED NUMBERS OF INFERNUSES CAUSE THEY TOO COMMON'
Already happened before. :devroll:
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No I love it.
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Combat has effectively no recoil... making it appear fully automatic when holding the mouse button
It does not appear fully automatic, it fires in bursts.
The firing mechanism should not be based off of the required mouse input, as that is a poor way to do it.
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Im not sick of combat nor NRG, just sick of the constant moaning
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People will always overuse the best equipment (or weapon, in this case) if they can obtain it.
It's a game. Learn to find the weak spots of the Combat Shotgun and counter it.
I wanted it removed once, but now I honestly don't give a flying fuck anymore as I know how to fight against it.
In other words
(http://pichars.org/store/1905_original_0ANd1.)
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1-Buy skates.
2-Buy 10000 Tec-9.
3-Solve your problems....
1- i have skates
2- i have 1000s of Tec9
3- i dont have problems
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I'm not here to speak as a SWAT member. Everyone is free to use and do what he wants. I was just answering to EliteTerm that NRG are mostly not used to escape.
Then you answered him bad. Most of criminals use the NRG to escape don't talk when you don't know something.
About the combat you are just all mad because you can't shoot with them. Cops you are allowed to buy weaps while on duty, so get combat too.
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there isnt such thing as 'SUSPECT ALWAYS TAKING COMBAT' or 'SUSPECT ALWAYS TAKING NRG', instead it's 'SUSPECT TAKES BEST VEHICLE/GUN HE CAN AT CURRENT TIME', is that so hard to understand?
you delete combat, people will start using sawn-off
you delete NRG, people will start using Infernus
you edit NRG/combat stats, it's a blashpemy since you're editing GTA game just cause it ain't easy enough
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you delete combat, people will start using sawn-off
you delete NRG, people will start using Infernus
And then people will complain about sawnoff.
And then people will complain about Infernus.
It's one big 100% predictable circle that the wiser ones of Argonath are all too familiar with.
Bum bum bum. Save us the carpal tunnel syndrome, ya?
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And then people will complain about sawnoff.
And then people will complain about Infernus.
It's one big 100% predictable circle that the wiser ones of Argonath are all too familiar with.
Bum bum bum. Save us the carpal tunnel syndrome, ya?
when will dual weapons be re-enabled?? :P