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Title: Police bikes
Post by: Ave on October 25, 2011, 05:29:49 pm
(http://e58.img-up.net/police2n75fz.png)
PCJ-600 and other vehicles painted Police Blue - an unused colour to be found within game files.

I came up with this one not a long ago. My idea is to supply police forces with another type of vehicle - a motorbike.

Sharp and quick, bike may be used against fastmovers; they're able to maintain safe distance and keep the visual on suspect.
This could prevent the situation, when a police helicopter has to be launched several times a day and it's not really economical.
As Vice City does not offer the exact model of a police bike (like in San Andreas), I have managed to edit the PCJ's colour (http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=16744) so it still suits the look.

Discuss ;)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ~Legend~ on October 25, 2011, 06:11:01 pm
I really like it, I mean, the PCJ isn't used a lot within any jobs or roles at the moment, just for leisure purposes.

The PD dropped the idea due to VC not having a police customised two wheeler, with the lack of sirens, using an example.
Ave, the image you posted is pretty nice - the Cheetah looks pimped.  (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_vince.png)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Klaus on October 25, 2011, 08:10:17 pm
Even though the police have never had their own bikes, I have used them myself to chase down a few criminals.
The major speed along with the forward driveby can heavily damage any vehicle.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: stormeus on October 25, 2011, 08:51:03 pm
One problem that has to be rectified is the fact that PCJ's cannot be equipped with sirens. If a good idea to fix that is posted, then I'll support it. For now I'm neutral.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: SugarD on October 25, 2011, 11:03:44 pm
One problem that has to be rectified is the fact that PCJ's cannot be equipped with sirens. If a good idea to fix that is posted, then I'll support it. For now I'm neutral.
Agreed with what Storm said.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 26, 2011, 06:15:00 am
Sirens are there to annoy the shizzle's out of people anyways. I'd rather see PD vehicles without sirens :D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 29, 2011, 01:25:33 am
Sirens are there to annoy the shizzle's out of people anyways. I'd rather see PD vehicles without sirens :D
this. I'm so used to sirens (being wanted 24/7) that I don't care about them, but a giant /c pull on the chat, yes.
btw: pol maverick/ predator/ hunter dont have sirens either, seems like you need to remove them lol
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: stormeus on October 29, 2011, 01:32:21 am
Because you can't exactly pull over for a Maverick. Land vehicles are a different story, and from a lawful point of view, there should be something alerting you to let the police pass, as long as it's not intrusive like spamming local chat with "PULL OVER A POLICE BIKE IS COMIN THROUGH". Maybe one message, or having their blip flash red and blue if they use a command like /c siren.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Klaus on October 29, 2011, 02:04:54 am
lol. Who actually pulls over to the side of the road when they hear sirens?
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on October 29, 2011, 08:06:55 am
lol. Who actually pulls over to the side of the road when they hear sirens?
Maybe the forward drive-by will help clearing the road a bit
:D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: freestyle_Shadow on October 29, 2011, 09:40:42 am
Maybe we take some of SA ideas, such as the police vehicles ( in this case, just the bike ) appear rednblue on radar... Laggy, but effective xD

  If aXXo wants, I can post a lil' scratch of this  :razz:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 29, 2011, 10:26:26 am
Maybe the forward drive-by will help clearing the road a bit
:D
lol'd

Tho' on-topic, I'd like to see VCPD having PCJs since they can't catch me if am on one without taking one themselves or being a pro in flying chopper, which of course is easily dodgeable by good enough PCJ driver  :roll:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ~Legend~ on October 29, 2011, 03:36:40 pm
lol'd

Tho' on-topic, I'd like to see VCPD having PCJs since they can't catch me if am on one without taking one themselves or being a pro in flying chopper, which of course is easily dodgeable by good enough PCJ driver  :roll:

We'll see about that. :D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 29, 2011, 03:37:28 pm
my problem is that everyone will use PCJs for patrolling then lol. I just want cops to use it against bikes, like they use VCID cheetahs against fast cars (most of times that is)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ~Legend~ on October 29, 2011, 03:39:00 pm
If we limit it to very few around the map, I don't think it would be much of a problem.
VCPD are covered when it comes to patrol protocols.

Not everyone can control a PCJ to its max, though.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Willy on October 29, 2011, 04:47:34 pm
I dont find it problem, if all cops are patrolling in bikes...
Also, its biased for them to have forward DB when criminals have nails...
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: SugarD on October 29, 2011, 06:37:45 pm
lol. Who actually pulls over to the side of the road when they hear sirens?
Most people in most countries where it's the law?
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 29, 2011, 07:28:09 pm
Most people in most countries where it's the law?
Talking about ingame, not life.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: stormeus on October 29, 2011, 07:34:49 pm
Ignorance for the law is not a valid excuse to dismiss it, either way.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 29, 2011, 07:38:46 pm
it's not about that lol. i never pull over when i hear sirens, only if someone tells me to. why would i pull over just cause i hear sirens? i hear them too often for that to happen, especially since cops use them not just for pulling you over, gee.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Klaus on October 29, 2011, 07:43:46 pm
Most of the time I don't even hear them anyway. I got my iTunes blasting out of my speakers :cool:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on October 29, 2011, 08:41:47 pm
I dont find it problem, if all cops are patrolling in bikes...
Also, its biased for them to have forward DB when criminals have nails...
No nails in v2.0...
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 29, 2011, 08:49:19 pm
who needs nails against bike when you can just brake and make the driver hit the asphalt with his chin
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: SugarD on October 29, 2011, 08:59:11 pm
Talking about ingame, not life.
The main reason why people ignore them in-game is either because of game limitations/issues causing them to not see/hear them, or because they just don't care enough about roleplaying with everyone outside their closed groups to even bother playing along.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ferrari32 on October 29, 2011, 09:01:04 pm
lol. Who actually pulls over to the side of the road when they hear sirens?
I usually pull over in their windshield  :D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 29, 2011, 09:07:32 pm
The main reason why people ignore them in-game is either because of game limitations/issues causing them to not see/hear them, or because they just don't care enough about roleplaying with everyone outside their closed groups to even bother playing along.
So pulling over everytime a cop drives behind you? no thx

Most of the time I don't even hear them anyway. I got my iTunes Windows Media Player blasting out of my speakers headphones :cool:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Morphine on October 29, 2011, 11:03:24 pm
No one needs your scratches at the moment, Shadow. All we need is the new version of VC:MP, which will sadly even not be worked on until Christmas or so.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: SugarD on October 29, 2011, 11:06:47 pm
So pulling over everytime a cop drives behind you? no thx
No one is forcing you, hence Argo's Vision. The point is this is a roleplay server, and the reason why sirens and lights exist on emergency vehicles in real life is so people get out of their way and avoid accidents with them when they are speeding to an emergency. That's the same reason why we use them in Argo, in a roleplaying fashion. No one is forcing you to do it, but some of us may choose to for the sake of roleplay. I personally do it whenever I am able, even if Code 4 in an emergency vehicle myself. I don't see a reason why we shouldn't let them pass safely. They are trying to warn us they are coming up quickly to prevent an accident. If we follow the "for the sake of roleplay" idea here, it would only make sense to give the Police Bikes some sort of warning system, if possible, since it would be treated as if it were a marked vehicle, seeing how none currently exist in this specific game.

Most of the time I don't even hear them anyway. I got my iTunes blasting out of my speakers :cool:
That unfortunately is a common issue due to game limitations. Some people in SA:MP came up with a *possible* and creative idea to help with it a bit, but unfortunately it's not something that's possible in VC:MP at this time.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ~Legend~ on October 29, 2011, 11:55:02 pm
Ahh, be nice and let the life savers, protectors, all those kind folks of our city do their job? : D

An idea for the PCJ:
Unsure if possible, but I'm sure this would really make itself heard. There's the car alarms system in VC, which goes off when you start up locked/certain parked vehicles.

Let's create a constant version of that for police PCJs, heheh?
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on October 30, 2011, 01:12:26 am
ffs its just a bike.
Cops jack em anyway....

The problem with adding them is that cops have too many cars.
So...the more we add, the less slots users get to buy cars. Since VCMP has 180 car limit.
Ill probably replace 2 PD cars with bikes.

Sirens aint an issue, PCJ has a very annoying horn too....it can serve the purpose very well :D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Ave on October 30, 2011, 07:26:49 am
There's still /c pull and other police-related commands. These PCJ's will have an unique painting, so I'm sure everyone could recognize them.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 30, 2011, 02:12:09 pm
who cares about sirens, SAMP (had, they scripted sirens now) freecops driving black SAPD buffallos with no sirens and nobody really cared. Let's implement the bikes.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 30, 2011, 02:37:45 pm
who cares about sirens, SAMP (had, they scripted sirens now) freecops driving black SAPD buffallos with no sirens and nobody really cared. Let's implement the bikes.
100% behind this one.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: detective_perry on October 30, 2011, 03:32:27 pm
No one pulls over when siren is on so who cares about sirens. Just add the damn bikes. Don't complicate it so much.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on October 30, 2011, 05:07:06 pm
Ok, so replace 2 PD cars with bikes?
Ill replace 1 at VCPD HQ and other at Havana.

Do we need 1 at Downtown too?

About the color. If you guys want it to appear as one posted by Ave, You people will have to install the mod for it.
Lemme know the default color (Colour1 and Colour2).
You can go in beta and buy off a PCJ with those colours, to check how it looks.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 30, 2011, 05:16:53 pm
Ok, so replace 2 PD cars with bikes?
Ill replace 1 at VCPD HQ and other at Havana.

Do we need 1 at Downtown too?

About the color. If you guys want it to appear as one posted by Ave, You people will have to install the mod for it.
Lemme know the default color (Colour1 and Colour2).
You can go in beta and buy off a PCJ with those colours, to check how it looks.
ye, why not have a one in downtown.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 30, 2011, 05:18:07 pm
Ok, so replace 2 PD cars with bikes?
Ill replace 1 at VCPD HQ and other at Havana.

Do we need 1 at Downtown too?

About the color. If you guys want it to appear as one posted by Ave, You people will have to install the mod for it.
Lemme know the default color (Colour1 and Colour2).
You can go in beta and buy off a PCJ with those colours, to check how it looks.
Sounds fine to me
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: stormeus on October 30, 2011, 05:23:09 pm
About the color. If you guys want it to appear as one posted by Ave, You people will have to install the mod for it.
Lemme know the default color (Colour1 and Colour2).

Probably better off using the blue and white that was already set for the Enforcers and Cruisers.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Ave on October 30, 2011, 07:38:21 pm
The modification consists only of carcols.dat, so there's no need to install anything.
If you want to check it, as aXXo said, visit Sunshine Autos and type /c buycar pcj 2 2. You'll get the one as from the picture
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Klaus on October 30, 2011, 07:49:46 pm
It may get confusing if civilians paint their bikes the same colour as police bikes. Can we prevent this from happening?
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Marcell on October 30, 2011, 07:53:40 pm
gotta love klaus giving me good ideas :3
but yeah it can be by restricting color 2 when painting carruchos/specified vehicle
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ~Legend~ on October 30, 2011, 11:48:28 pm
Sirens were just as a principal - generally, all emergency vehicles are equipped with them, and people are expected to move to one side when they see/hear them.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on October 31, 2011, 03:41:22 pm
It may get confusing if civilians paint their bikes the same colour as police bikes. Can we prevent this from happening?
Police bikes are locked for civilians just like all police vehicles.
That would remove your confusion, I guess :)

EDIT: forum ban for post about sirens.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 31, 2011, 04:03:46 pm
Police bikes are locked for civilians just like all police vehicles.
That would remove your confusion, I guess :)

EDIT: forum ban for post about sirens.
:alert"

I think you misunderstood his point. What Klaus meant, was that if civilians _PAINT_ their PCJ to look exactly the same as PD ones and if that can be restricted (aka no blue PCJs for civilians)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on October 31, 2011, 07:05:28 pm
Ye right.
But color is not the only thing that distinguishes between two bikes.
You can distinguish it from regular bikes by trying to sit in it :)

/c sus kessu trying to steal cop bike
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on October 31, 2011, 07:28:35 pm
Ye right.
But color is not the only thing that distinguishes between two bikes.
You can distinguish it from regular bikes by trying to sit in it :)

/c sus kessu trying to steal cop bike
I no steal cop bike  :cry:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ferrari32 on November 01, 2011, 09:27:43 pm
Police bikes are locked for civilians just like all police vehicles.
That would remove your confusion, I guess :)

EDIT: forum ban for post about sirens.
Kudos to everyone in real life that managed to lock their bike.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Morphine on November 02, 2011, 09:15:11 pm
Did Dad get forum banned? wat
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on November 04, 2011, 09:21:54 pm
Did Dad get forum banned? wat
wat?
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on November 04, 2011, 10:36:42 pm
wat?
I think he means this part of your post:
EDIT: forum ban for post about sirens.
He understood it wrong I guess.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: JDC on December 04, 2011, 07:31:10 am
An interesting idea.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: STALKER41 on January 07, 2012, 04:09:25 pm
Really good idea. Also there are FBI Washingtons...
There should be a Police Infernus   :redface:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: SugarD on January 07, 2012, 05:38:10 pm
Really good idea. Also there are FBI Washingtons...
There should be a Police Infernus   :redface:
FBI Washingtons could be repainted and used as unmarked PD cars too. The possibilities are endless. Just use your imaginations :)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on January 07, 2012, 06:02:16 pm
FBI Washington would be the most unused car in the police parking lot.
So, it has not been added.

Remember, we do have a very small Vehicle model limit.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: SugarD on January 07, 2012, 06:06:42 pm
Remember, we do have a very small Vehicle model limit.
That I wasn't aware of. Apologies.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Verz on January 07, 2012, 07:19:45 pm
Yeah, adding FBI washington would be useless. I guess VCPD Manana would be very cool  :cool:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on January 07, 2012, 07:57:39 pm
Yeah, adding FBI washington would be useless. I guess VCPD Manana would be very cool  :cool:
Manah Manah
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Rapture on January 07, 2012, 08:01:49 pm
Nah, faggio, scooter cops, yay!
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Skrillex on January 07, 2012, 08:20:02 pm
Police scooters, I lol'd, Honestly back home, we have some police scooters. Really.

Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on January 07, 2012, 08:20:23 pm
Nah, faggio, scooter cops, yay!
Atleast it's not that easy to flip.. :D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Skrillex on January 07, 2012, 08:21:55 pm
And by the way, now On Topic: There are Police helicopters for bikes to handle, and cops can take bikes, if they know where are they hidden.
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: STALKER41 on January 08, 2012, 02:38:05 pm
Yeah, adding FBI washington would be useless. I guess VCPD Manana would be very cool  :cool:
MANANA's!?!?!? Now all that left is to call our vehicles banana's :S (you know...manana=banana)
Cops would rage if there were ONLY manana's left :rofl:
Nah, faggio, scooter cops, yay!
Hmmmmm I do agree with the scooters  :D

Post Merge: January 08, 2012, 02:41:23 pm
Hmmmm I know a way to fix that siren problem...Tell that they are undercover vehicles  :D
But changing the color would be good...
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: ~Legend~ on January 08, 2012, 06:31:08 pm
Going back to the Infernus idea...

Almost all of the Infernuses in the server are currently owned by VCPD Command Staff - so better watch out. ;)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Klaus on January 08, 2012, 07:03:39 pm
Den's infernus > all other infernus's
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: JDC on January 10, 2012, 02:23:52 pm
You can't catch an admiral with a faggio, what good wouldit be for the police force? :poke:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Call_me_Dad on January 10, 2012, 09:44:41 pm
You can't catch an admiral with a faggio, what good wouldit be for the police force? :poke:
I remember when I was a newb...
Petey challenged my Cheetah with a Faggio in a drag race...

I still owe him $500 in MTAVC :)



Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Kessu on January 10, 2012, 11:25:43 pm
You can't catch an admiral with a faggio, what good wouldit be for the police force? :poke:
Don't underestimate the power of two-wheeled :D
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Morphine on January 11, 2012, 08:28:32 pm
Faggios are a life-savers in bankrobs. :)
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: Klaus on January 11, 2012, 08:39:44 pm
Faggios are a life-savers in bankrobs. :)
Then I come flying a Hunter :roll:
Title: Re: Police bikes
Post by: STALKER41 on January 12, 2012, 07:29:34 pm
Then I come flying a Hunter :roll:
LOL. That's...really scary D: . I guess Iam stopping my criminal activity D: D: D:
Though I can still run away even if you're with a hunter :D

Post Merge: January 12, 2012, 07:35:15 pm
Then I come flying a Hunter :roll:
Klaus the scary,deadly Top Gun :) .He comin rollin in tha apache!Trollin the criminals like a boss.
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