Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP General => Topic started by: Lazlow on November 11, 2011, 01:11:02 pm
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Would you like your owned cars to be default carlocked?
Then obviously you can /carlock to unlock them anytime.
Guests can vote too.
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yes - also, why would you want to take other player's car, if it dissapears when he unlogs.
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yes - also, why would you want to take other player's car, if it dissapears when he unlogs.
Maybe people steal them coz noone usually knows where good cars spawn... they also take sales cars and FBI cars. But that`s just abuse.
Now it doesn`t matter if i own a car because its going to get stolen no matter how well its hidden...
It would seem that people just hate me :(
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Dont Vote to get the automatic carlock... If you do, the number of cars will be restricted to 3.. And who wants 3 cars? Nobody... Who wants 10cars? Me. So come on! Everybody wants more than 3 cars i would think... It would be crazy to just have 3 cars and have all this cash on you...
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There shouldn't be the need to lock vehicles you can't use in the first place. You can only drive one at a time. Locking them all so others cannot use them is greedy. If however a player must lock their vehicles they should go to them and lock.
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Dont Vote to get the automatic carlock... If you do, the number of cars will be restricted to 3.. And who wants 3 cars? Nobody... Who wants 10cars? Me. So come on! Everybody wants more than 3 cars i would think... It would be crazy to just have 3 cars and have all this cash on you...
A vote doesn't mean they would get it ^^
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There shouldn't be the need to lock vehicles you can't use in the first place. You can only drive one at a time. Locking them all so others cannot use them is greedy. If however a player must lock their vehicles they should go to them and lock.
So I didn't bought car for myself, I bought it for other players?
All the time ppl r talking about some reality, rp etc. well I didn't know u can use Donald Tramp cars if he is not using them?
And about restriction - well its little lame, if I have the money for cars why shouldn't I be able to buy them? :/ Car renting service wouldn't be possible to rp anymore :)
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No you didn't but how on Argonath are going to physically manage to drive more than one vehicle at any given time? You can't it's just not possible and never will be therefore why lock vehicles or even have them when you don't use them.
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This isn't really needed. Like Ted said, why locking all the cars if you only can drive one.
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This isn't really needed. Like Ted said, why locking all the cars if you only can drive one.
I can answer this question for u. The reason is that when I do want to drive a car that I bought, then I should be able to do it. Everyone should have the option to choose whether to let others drive their cars or not. We should not force our understandings and visions on other peoples. I dont support locking on default nor unlocking on default, I support that every single person could make this decision.
I didnt cast a vote because I dont really care if my cars are locked or unlocked by default. I dont mind people using my vehicles but clearly there are people that do and therefore they should have the option of doing so.
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I use all my vehicles because i have them spread over the map and in case i go to somewhere and lose the car i`m driving, it`s nice to have it there, not stolen.
And also IRL if you lock a car it stays locked till u unlock it.....
As yoske said So I didn`t buy the car for myself, I bought it for all players
It`s kind annoying to lock them since u crash every 5 seconds.
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I didnt cast a vote because I dont really care if my cars are locked or unlocked by default. I dont mind people using my vehicles but clearly there are people that do and therefore they should have the option of doing so.
Then these people when logging in, should lock their cars. It's simple as that.
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Then these people when logging in, should lock their cars. It's simple as that.
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/carlock, I dont get why there is such a huge debate over this. Is the laziness going down now people people expecting cars to lock automatically. Just use /carlock, it only takes 1 second. If you have 10 cars, just lock them if you are so worried about people taking them.
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Currently how many vehicles can a person own or is it simply limited to however much money a person has?
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I can answer this question for u. The reason is that when I do want to drive a car that I bought, then I should be able to do it. Everyone should have the option to choose whether to let others drive their cars or not. We should not force our understandings and visions on other peoples. I dont support locking on default nor unlocking on default, I support that every single person could make this decision.
I didnt cast a vote because I dont really care if my cars are locked or unlocked by default. I dont mind people using my vehicles but clearly there are people that do and therefore they should have the option of doing so.
I share exactlly the same opinion stated above. :)
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Currently how many vehicles can a person own or is it simply limited to however much money a person has?
Unlimited.
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I see as rather much to be honest, Yes I'm aware that the vehicles despawn and I'm also aware that IV:MP can hold pretty much an unlimited amount of vehicles but i still believe there should be some limits at least... and not of the unlimited kind...
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I don't really see the need of having automatic carlock. If you don't want the cars getting stolen, have one car instead so you can keep it locked from others.
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Guys let ne tell you a Little story about argonathrpg's car History for 2 years in Samp For Exemple every person could own 1 car each Person and it was great you locked the car everytime you got in if you didnt want someone to use it, after 2 years 1 idea camed up Ye they Raised the ammount to 3 cars each, Some people disliked it someone got very happy about it well 1 year after that People still giving ideas to rise to 5cars they will not do that ever.
however this is samp but still a part of what argonathrpg stand for
I suggested the limit to 3 cars each person in ivmp and dellstorm and others convinced me to tryout for unlimited for a while to keep players happy and here you guys come and complains about you have to lock your cars? we not gonna pump server full of scripts to babysits you.
What you guys gonna consider today is ( i want a limit on 3cars and lock them manually easy and no problem)
or consider (a carlimit over 10car + and acept i have to lock them myself if i dont want people to use it)
I realy dont see a need of this automatic carlocksystem in any sort of way
Regards
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Anything over three is a bit over the top as I basically said before three would be much more appropriate. I do remember only be able to own one vehicle in the SA:MP server very well too Tandtrollet.
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Over the top ? Every player should have liberty to decide how to use his money. If player feels like he needs 10 cars then why shouldn't he have them ? I mean he has not got those vehicles for free. Regular players were already "punished" for having lot of cars in the means of reducing car prices dramatically without offering any compensation. That took away pretty decent percentage of some players wealth. Now the addition of car limit is in order ? I sincerely hope that IF the car limit is implemented then its done in more decent way than the price cut.
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/carlock, I dont get why there is such a huge debate over this. Is the laziness going down now people people expecting cars to lock automatically. Just use /carlock, it only takes 1 second. If you have 10 cars, just lock them if you are so worried about people taking them.
My friend.. try to carlock 16 cars in 2 different locations every time u crash. ;) some cars in 3rd city, some in 2nd.. u trying to play in 1st.. thats your big deal..
Post Merge: November 12, 2011, 02:47:16 am
Guys let ne tell you a Little story about argonathrpg's car History for 2 years in Samp For Exemple every person could own 1 car each Person and it was great you locked the car everytime you got in if you didnt want someone to use it, after 2 years 1 idea camed up Ye they Raised the ammount to 3 cars each, Some people disliked it someone got very happy about it well 1 year after that People still giving ideas to rise to 5cars they will not do that ever.
however this is samp but still a part of what argonathrpg stand for
I suggested the limit to 3 cars each person in ivmp and dellstorm and others convinced me to tryout for unlimited for a while to keep players happy and here you guys come and complains about you have to lock your cars? we not gonna pump server full of scripts to babysits you.
What you guys gonna consider today is ( i want a limit on 3cars and lock them manually easy and no problem)
or consider (a carlimit over 10car + and acept i have to lock them myself if i dont want people to use it)
I realy dont see a need of this automatic carlocksystem in any sort of way
Regards
I dont understand, why you dont see a problem when a person has to carlock 16 cars every time they crash... especialy when they are in different locations around all 3 citys..
And i get the point with babysiting.. but if we have a different thing than samp, then we need new different things than samp.. such as, carlock as default, or remote: /carlock all.
Post Merge: November 12, 2011, 02:49:08 am
I don't really see the need of having automatic carlock. If you don't want the cars getting stolen, have one car instead so you can keep it locked from others.
And what he said.. thats just simply stupid :)
It all comes to a very simple question... It really does..
When you go to get your car, would you like for it to allways be there? or not?
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Guys let ne tell you a Little story about argonathrpg's car History for 2 years in Samp For Exemple every person could own 1 car each Person and it was great you locked the car everytime you got in if you didnt want someone to use it, after 2 years 1 idea camed up Ye they Raised the ammount to 3 cars each, Some people disliked it someone got very happy about it well 1 year after that People still giving ideas to rise to 5cars they will not do that ever.
however this is samp but still a part of what argonathrpg stand for
I suggested the limit to 3 cars each person in ivmp and dellstorm and others convinced me to tryout for unlimited for a while to keep players happy and here you guys come and complains about you have to lock your cars? we not gonna pump server full of scripts to babysits you.
What you guys gonna consider today is ( i want a limit on 3cars and lock them manually easy and no problem)
or consider (a carlimit over 10car + and acept i have to lock them myself if i dont want people to use it)
I realy dont see a need of this automatic carlocksystem in any sort of way
Regards
My opinion is the bolded.
This all comes down to a point of laziness... Lazy is not acceptable...
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I can answer this question for u. The reason is that when I do want to drive a car that I bought, then I should be able to do it. Everyone should have the option to choose whether to let others drive their cars or not. We should not force our understandings and visions on other peoples. I dont support locking on default nor unlocking on default, I support that every single person could make this decision.
I didnt cast a vote because I dont really care if my cars are locked or unlocked by default. I dont mind people using my vehicles but clearly there are people that do and therefore they should have the option of doing so.
I also agree with you.
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My opinion is the bolded.
This all comes down to a point of laziness... Lazy is not acceptable...
So sitting in and out of ten cars which are placed around map and locking them would take so much time that as soon as they finish locking them their game crashes again and they have to do it all over again. If not wanting to do that is laziness then I bet most people in the server are lazy. Doing so is pointless and annoying. And as it seems we have 2 extreme opinions here, then the solution I offered would serve the best solution imo. That was to let every people decide if he wants his cars to be locked when he logs in or not. I se nor problem of using the /carlock command on every single car if the cars would remember the locked state they are in after relogging. In other words, car locking state should be savable and the last applied state should be called after logging in.
This is not the issue of wheter the carlock should be applied by default or not. Its the issue of people having freedom to choose what they do with their property that they have worked for to get. And doing repetitive, pointless actions is something that scripts should do and not humans. There are no jobs scripted that are based on doing repetitive actions and then getting money for every next action that is carried out. Applying the /carlock command on every single car is exactly the same thing, only difference is that u dont get money for it.
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My friend.. try to carlock 16 cars in 2 different locations every time u crash. ;) some cars in 3rd city, some in 2nd.. u trying to play in 1st.. thats your big deal..
Post Merge: November 12, 2011, 02:47:16 am
I dont understand, why you dont see a problem when a person has to carlock 16 cars every time they crash... especialy when they are in different locations around all 3 citys..
And i get the point with babysiting.. but if we have a different thing than samp, then we need new different things than samp.. such as, carlock as default, or remote: /carlock all.
Post Merge: November 12, 2011, 02:49:08 am
And what he said.. thats just simply stupid :)
It all comes to a very simple question... It really does..
When you go to get your car, would you like for it to allways be there? or not?
Who would find all of your cars around LC and drive them at the same time? Does it matter if they drove a car of yours? I don't think so, you will crash in few minutes, and you'll get your car back.
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:D disagree ! I would love to see others people drive my car only if i am not driving it. Why would you guys want to see them autlocked whenever you player spawn ?? I am 100 % Agree with ted .
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If you need the car lock it, if you don't need it don't lock it . . . more simple than that . . .
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Having car's not locked by defualt is just complication and waste of time, nothing more.
Also, the vehicles were locked by defualt some time ago and as far I know nobody moaned.
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Having car's not locked by defualt is just complication and waste of time, nothing more.
Also, the vehicles were locked by defualt some time ago and as far I know nobody moaned.
Despite the fact that you got killed three times when trying to enter any car, even State ones which are not locked due to the amount of bugs carlock brought? :roll:
And the fact that when you didn't get ejected and killed, you couldn't enter the car at all unless you were very lucky.
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Thats it guys, 3 Solutions
1. Let players choose something like: /lockbydefault or /unlockbydefault. That would allow for a player to decide if he wants to keep the cars locked as default.
2. Remote locking. /carlock all. I heard rumors that there will be /carlock [id] but not /carlock all.
3. Keep the cars previous condition. If it was locked, keep it as locked until unlocked.
These things would satisfy both player sides. But Im guessing, it would not satisfy the Vision of Argonath, and managers will not do anything about this issue. Just because its against the vision... So i believe let the Managers decide, if they should satisfy the players or not. :cop:
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3. Keep the cars previous condition. If it was locked, keep it as locked until unlocked.
He has a point here. An extra column in database won't affect much, will it? :)
When you /carlock your car, it must be locked when it spawns again, and the same happens if you unlock it.
So simply, save /carlock instead of getting it reset after each spawn.
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3. Keep the cars previous condition. If it was locked, keep it as locked until unlocked.
Best and most fair solution towards all players. Those who want to keep cars unlocked can do it and those who dont, wont have to. This way neither of sides get "restrictions" on them. Lets not fall into extreme versions where there can only be one right solution. This needs compromises and i believe the 3rd solution on Lazlow's lists would do the trick and everyone would satisfy everyone.
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Best and most fair solution towards all players. Those who want to keep cars unlocked can do it and those who dont, wont have to. This way neither of sides get "restrictions" on them. Lets not fall into extreme versions where there can only be one right solution. This needs compromises and i believe the 3rd solution on Lazlow's lists would do the trick and everyone would satisfy everyone.
Lol thats what i said, if you lock a car it stays locked.....
Anyway thats what i`ve been wanting all this time....
But its nice that that might come thru.
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3. Keep the cars previous condition. If it was locked, keep it as locked until unlocked.
Yes Option 3 sounds great! Compromise is the key. ;)
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Doesn't matter what you vote for. it's up for the devs of the servers and not you. You should be happy that they script anything for you.
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Stop being so lazy. If you were stranded, and could only find someone else's car, would you get in, or think "that's someone else's car, I'm walking back to Noob Street"?
Thought so.
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Stop being so lazy. If you were stranded, and could only find someone else's car, would you get in, or think "that's someone else's car, I'm walking back to Noob Street"?
Thought so.
Couldn't have said it any better. If there are 5 people online that have 10 cars each, not even 10 cars, maybe 5 cars each, and the "auto-lock" thing is enabled, thats 25 cars that are unusable to people. For crying out loud, people crash every 10 minutes and your cars reset, so I dont see any reason to complain that we need auto-lock.
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There's no own-able car limit in IV:MP? ._.
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There's no own-able car limit in IV:MP? ._.
Nope :cool:
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Nope :cool:
DAYUM!
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Stop being so lazy. If you were stranded, and could only find someone else's car, would you get in, or think "that's someone else's car, I'm walking back to Noob Street"?
Thought so.
Maybe you should stop being lazy and unlock ur cars every time u log in. I bet you wouldn't like that. Everyone are not like you so why are your views and points the best ?
Doesn't matter what you vote for. it's up for the devs of the servers and not you. You should be happy that they script anything for you.
Just because they are devs doesnt mean we cant express our opinions and make suggestions. There is even special board for suggestions, in case you havent noticed :)
You should be happy that they script anything for you.
I find it to be very ignorant remark.
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Find it ignorant or anything else. I couldn't care about it cause the only thing I see are people who moans and whines cause their 10 cars can't be locked.
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I see are people who moans and whines cause their 10 cars can't be locked.
They should just thank Sauron for having 10 cars.
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Actually what I do when I`m stranded with no car, I look for a state car, if there is a car that I`m not sure about of being a state car, I get in and check, If it is owned by someone I just get out and look further, coz I don`t want to create inconvenience for others. :eek:
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If it is owned by someone I just get out and look further, coz I don`t want to create inconvenience for others
Me too . . well, I do it because with these crashes you'll lose that car in a few minutes ;)
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I think there should not be the automaic carlock... What is better than seeing "Gunz online, letz get his choppa fast" or "Oh god Icy is online, letz steal his turzimo fastzz0r" Also seeing someone stole your car and trying to catch him, or calling police for your stolen car, it always makes the game funnier. I dont know why the hell would you like to make the mod more boring. :poke:
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I think there should not be the automaic carlock... What is better than seeing "Gunz online, letz get his choppa fast" or "Oh god Icy is online, letz steal his turzimo fastzz0r" Also seeing someone stole your car and trying to catch him, or calling police for your stolen car, it always makes the game funnier. I dont know why the hell would you like to make the mod more boring. :poke:
taking someone's car if it was unlocked is not counted as a car theft, unless the guy roleplayed it, or unless he agrees to roleplay with cops that he did jack the car. If people drive your car, you can't do nothing about it unless he took it just to annoy you. Trying taking it back 'disrupts their gameplay', thus it's not allowed...at least it's that way on SAMP, dunno if you guys wanna make another regulations for it.
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taking someone's car if it was unlocked is not counted as a car theft, unless the guy roleplayed it, or unless he agrees to roleplay with cops that he did jack the car. If people drive your car, you can't do nothing about it unless he took it just to annoy you. Trying taking it back 'disrupts their gameplay', thus it's not allowed...at least it's that way on SAMP, dunno if you guys wanna make another regulations for it.
LOL.
Its all i can say.
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LOL.
Its all i can say.
those aren't mine words, but community leader's. just saying, incase you think I'm retarded.
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Carlocks will be added in the way thats best for server and that was not automatic Carlock so you just gonna live with to lock your 20cars if you own that much cars. however its your own problem couse of the fact you can own 3 - 4 cars and be happy couse you dont use more so stop complain and start Use the cars like the are supposed to be used dont just collect them as trophies
Peace