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Title: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 14, 2011, 01:53:08 pm
As title says, and its pretty much stupid, we talk about federal, high secretive stuff and we dont need nearby players hearing that.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Martin. on November 14, 2011, 02:14:17 pm
Dont use it near people u dont want to talk then. Its still the same radio that everyone else has. Its even good its heard, cause I think its stupid undercover FBI agents can freely speak into the radio while being side to side with "bad guys".
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Batta on November 14, 2011, 02:15:03 pm
Use a CB
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Thomas 'Leroy' Crof on November 14, 2011, 03:44:48 pm
CB should also be heard by those close by. Makes it a lot easier to see if someone is cheating when he's being kidnapped, for instance (true, you've still got PM).

Anyways, I do not support this idea. FBI are equal to COPS so both of their radios should be heard.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 14, 2011, 03:48:59 pm
The idea of adding radio being able to be heard is stupid by itself...common cant you understand that we have more important stuff than watching if somebody is gona hear us........

What are profits of hearing LCPD radio at all? Hearing FBI radio would have profits but since original Idea was for LCPD radio I ask it for LCPD...what u get...nothing? Cop saying messages like "In chase at SU12, Code 3, Dukes"

@Thomas I never supported adding this idea.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Murt on November 14, 2011, 04:37:47 pm
Why don't the FBI use a cb channel like the FBI Division in SA:MP does? It's actually a CBRADIO and you guys can roleplay it's your own radio with your own frequens that no one can break.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Batta on November 14, 2011, 05:54:12 pm
Why don't we do as SA:MP?

Police and FBI radio is the same.
EMS has a radio.
FD has a radio.

FBI and subdivisions of Police should use a CB (private).
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 14, 2011, 05:56:21 pm
Why don't we do as SA:MP?

Police and FBI radio is the same.
EMS has a radio.
FD has a radio.

FBI and subdivisions of Police should use a CB (private).
Or simply have radio that nobody except members is able to hear?
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Rami on November 14, 2011, 08:28:36 pm
Or simply have radio that nobody except members is able to hear?

Is that exist IRL?
IRL you hear police's radio if you pass near a cop/agent .. I see it's realistic & a good addition, no need to remove it.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 14, 2011, 08:38:21 pm
Is that exist IRL?
IRL you hear police's radio if you pass near a cop/agent .. I see it's realistic & a good addition, no need to remove it.

IRL we need license for weapon (or at least clean record in some countrys)
IRL we must pay taxes to country
IRL cars lose fuel even your vehicle doesnt move

So......do we realy stick to real life on server?
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Murt on November 14, 2011, 08:58:16 pm
ArgonathRPG servers are not RL-RP servers.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Martin. on November 14, 2011, 09:17:00 pm
ArgonathRPG servers are not RL-RP servers.

Making things more realistic doesnt mean it suddenly becomes RL-RP server. With that excuse we could even remove the police/fbi etc radios. Why does FBI agents think they are so special ? Do you have some special powers that no man can hear you talking in the radio ? This prevents FBI like Thomas said "cheating" when they are undercover. And like Batta and many others said, u can use cb if you have secret convos. Tbh then i support having cb heard like police radio as well, on same reason that Thomas pointed out. And juts because in title was police radio it was just badly worder, the idea was to apply this to ALL of the radios.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Lionel Valdes on November 14, 2011, 09:17:38 pm
Not supported. That would not be RP. Just look at SA-MP now, nearby people can hear police radio.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Rami on November 14, 2011, 10:09:43 pm
IRL we need license for weapon (or at least clean record in some countrys) - That case has been discussed and the result was negative.
IRL we must pay taxes to country - We pay taxes (Taxdays) (:
IRL cars lose fuel even your vehicle doesnt move - We have that function.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Thomas 'Leroy' Crof on November 14, 2011, 10:34:24 pm
@Thomas I never supported adding this idea.
So you suggest something that you don't support?!  :poke:

And you're saying that LCPD SHOULD be heard by people close by (when talking in the radio), but FBI shouldn't? It's like saying [WS] can drive Sentinels and [TCL] can't.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: StatuZ on November 14, 2011, 10:38:05 pm
/me is using a earpiece so you can't hear the police radio.

How hard can it be. Damn.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on November 15, 2011, 01:18:42 am
Supported, for obvious reasons.

FBI talks about secret and classified information. We shouldn't need to use a cb radio. We are not SA:MP. We are IV:MP. Do NOT relate us with them. We ARE different. Either people don't hear the FBI radio at all or we don't hear any COP radio.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Driggz on November 15, 2011, 06:02:17 am
Just because its classified, doesnt mean we should make it unheard. Police and FBI are both law groups, and if police radios are heard, FBI should be too. Go to a vantage point where it can not be heard, or use the CB radio. Do FBI declassify over police radio? Not as far as I can tell. FBI only declassify to police when they are together in an operation. By my experience, when FBI talks about classified stuff, they talk in CB, and thats how it should be.

The only thing I would want changed is that if a cop or FBI agent is in a CAR, then the police radio can not be heard by persons outside of the car.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Kerbe on November 15, 2011, 11:59:28 am
All organizations have their own stuff..

Just watch your back...
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Batta on November 15, 2011, 01:53:18 pm
All organizations have their own stuff..

Just watch your back...
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 15, 2011, 02:07:05 pm
So you suggest something that you don't support?!  :poke:

And you're saying that LCPD SHOULD be heard by people close by (when talking in the radio), but FBI shouldn't? It's like saying [WS] can drive Sentinels and [TCL] can't.
I meant on idea you mentioned in your post (Making radios hearable by other peoples nearby)


On topic;

WHY THIS NEEDED TO GET ADDED?

Dont start crap like "it increases RP" yeah right, it just makes cops dont use it near you and like cops gona stand next to you while there is kidnap or such negociation....

Once you find what it realy helped answer here pls
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Thomas 'Leroy' Crof on November 15, 2011, 03:07:52 pm
There seems to be some confusion.

Is this idea:
- To make people hear the whatever a nearby FBI agent says in the radio? or
- To make the SAPD and FBI radio's seperate (so both have diffirent /r); them being together in /e?
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Martin. on November 15, 2011, 06:23:54 pm
/me is using a earpiece so you can't hear the police radio.

How hard can it be. Damn.

Are you speaking with your ear ?  Nobody is saying that u can hear what others talk in radio, you can hear what person near u is talking in the radio. So unless you are speaking with your ear (even that expects you to speak very very quiet) it is still heard to others near u.

I meant on idea you mentioned in your post (Making radios hearable by other peoples nearby)


On topic;

WHY THIS NEEDED TO GET ADDED?

Dont start crap like "it increases RP" yeah right, it just makes cops dont use it near you and like cops gona stand next to you while there is kidnap or such negociation....

Once you find what it realy helped answer here pls

Why shouldnt be this added ? Its there in real life and its such a small addition. Tbh, I dont see why u are so freaked out about it. When u have something private to say, then use PM or /cb. There ya go, problem solved.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 15, 2011, 07:48:24 pm
There seems to be some confusion.

Is this idea:
- To make people hear the whatever a nearby FBI agent says in the radio? or
- To make the SAPD and FBI radio's seperate (so both have diffirent /r); them being together in /e?
None of this. Title says it all.

Tbh, I dont see why u are so freaked out about it. When u have something private to say, then use PM or /cb. There ya go, problem solved.
Wanna know why I freaked so much? Because I dont have time to play "run-from-civlisation" to say a word in FBI radio about confidental stuff or have time to PM same thing to 3+ Peoples at same time or have to worry if somebody is gona run into our CB and listen to us.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Martin. on November 15, 2011, 08:01:47 pm
None of this. Title says it all.
Wanna know why I freaked so much? Because I dont have time to play "run-from-civlisation" to say a word in FBI radio about confidental stuff or have time to PM same thing to 3+ Peoples at same time or have to worry if somebody is gona run into our CB and listen to us.

Arent those the risks u have to be aware while beeing FBI agent ? U cant simply say confidential stuff when people are near u. Its against logic.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: hAWK. on November 15, 2011, 09:39:36 pm
The only thing I would want changed is that if a cop or FBI agent is in a CAR, then the police radio can not be heard by persons outside of the car.

This is the only thing that can be done for improving the current system. If you are in vehicles nearby people won't be able to hear the conversation, only those who are inside. Also I will suggest disabling of double message - removing the local messages to be heard by the LCPD/FBI/NOOSE (Cop(1) says on radio:...) and leaving only the radio ones. It easly floods the screen. Otherwise I think /cb and /pm are enough suitable for such purposes as others said above.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on November 16, 2011, 04:18:26 am
Otherwise I think /cb and /pm are enough suitable for such purposes as others said above.
/pm can be really hard to do when you have a team of 5+ fbi on (which happens quite often) and having to pm to eachother the same info multiple times, it just gets old really fast. FBI radio should not be heard anywhere(period). I dont care if it increases rp or some other stuff. Just get rid of it...
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Driggz on November 16, 2011, 04:40:47 am
Would an FBI official be smart for speaking in a radio about theyre classified things? Thats just not fair. Just because your in "FBI", they need to remove local radio? What should we add next, invisible cars?
Come on, lets just be fair. If you need to speak about classified things, use CB radio. Like I said before, I doubt that FBI ever announces theyre classified things to law enforment police officers.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Void on November 16, 2011, 10:34:44 am
As said above, I would suggest using a CB radio to deal with delicate matters.
I assume the /r has been fixed by now? (Joint radio for all law enforcements)
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: miha1111 on November 16, 2011, 12:50:37 pm
Sorry No, I dont need CB Channel in which anybody can enter-
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on November 16, 2011, 01:15:44 pm
Sorry No, I dont need CB Channel in which anybody can enter-
if we must use a CB.. I sugest having it locked with a secure pw..
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Norrage on November 16, 2011, 05:36:06 pm
FBI doesnt only talk about high security things and stuff, LCPD does too.
Also, CB radio can be used aswell. And if you dont want to use it, just drive some meters away so the person nearby you doesnt hear it. Its not that hard.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Martin. on November 16, 2011, 08:54:49 pm
Would an FBI official be smart for speaking in a radio about theyre classified things? Thats just not fair. Just because your in "FBI", they need to remove local radio? What should we add next, invisible cars?
Come on, lets just be fair. If you need to speak about classified things, use CB radio. Like I said before, I doubt that FBI ever announces theyre classified things to law enforment police officers.

I cant agree with you more. FBI is not some untouchable force that is above all laws of nature.

Sorry No, I dont need CB Channel in which anybody can enter-

Stop being so stubborn and use the possiblities given. FBI is equal to all other factions if it comes to everyday ways. For  so secret stuff that u guys cant use /PM, /cb or /r then probably the safest thing would be to arrange a meeting ?

FBI radio should not be heard anywhere(period).

FBI has some special modern radio that u dont need to speak in ? Maybe its possible to send text massages with it ? Sorry for being sarcastic but I m trying to draw attention on how ridiculous it sounds.

if we must use a CB.. I sugest having it locked with a secure pw..

Like said already FBI is faction like any other and I dont see why it should get special treatment. If u guys dont like cb where everyone can enter or the /PM cause u have to send it to five people then I have few alternatives:

1. Get together for meeting. This way you can speak with as many ppl as u would like and no threat of someone crashing in the conversation.

2. Get a radio man that sits on isolated place and this person is beeing PMd with information which he will in return post in /r.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on November 17, 2011, 03:51:06 am
/r for every division should not be heard...Only /e should be heard. There...Thats more fair.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Martin. on November 17, 2011, 05:02:57 pm
/r for every division should not be heard...Only /e should be heard. There...Thats more fair.

How come its more fair ? Radios work with same principles everywhere despite the fact that FBI is using it.
Title: Re: Make FBI Radio unable to be heard by nearby person's...
Post by: Jaaskaa on November 20, 2011, 05:49:56 am
Martin drop it with this attitude. I ain't going to intervene in this topic twice. If you want to shit on FBI, I will kindly remind you that you are ADMIN AND THEREFORE EXPECTED TO ACT WITH RESPECT TOWARD GROUPS AMONG THE COMMUNITY. I hope you got the message.

Also I do not agree with this idea of not having people to hear you talk. I made a statement about it Miha so instead of adressing situation outside of FBI first, do it within first. You will see what I mean over there.

End of the f.... debate.
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