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Title: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on December 23, 2011, 03:10:51 am
Sorry for posting this here, but due to a separate, known bug regarding the Helpdesk visibility to people with editing rights on their own servers' Helpdesks, I'm unable to report this via the normal method.

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Guest   06:01:05 pm   Nothing, or nothing you can see...
Fairly certain this should never pop up for a logged in user when there are no hidden users online. This usually only happens when a hidden user is online, but no hidden users were reported at the time I saw this. That leads me to believe that a specific forum board or feature is being hidden from logged in users which Guests/logged out users are able to see.

As for the topic itself, someone with rights and the ability to view the Website/Forum Helpdesk, please move this topic there so it can be correctly dealt with. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Ted on December 23, 2011, 06:41:30 pm
It could potentially be this and i6t was stated elsewhere a while back http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=staff (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=staff)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Julio. on December 23, 2011, 06:46:54 pm
Hm, that is a little strange Ted :o
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Reece on December 23, 2011, 11:50:20 pm
I'm not sure, could be another bug.

How is this possible?

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3696/howisthis.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/howisthis.png/)

Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Ben. on December 24, 2011, 12:17:21 am
I'm not sure, could be another bug.

How is this possible?

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3696/howisthis.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/howisthis.png/)
I think that's kinda funny...our forum has a sense of humour!   :D
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on December 24, 2011, 03:10:07 am
LOL WOW...that shouldn't EVER happen hahaha
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on May 31, 2012, 01:49:41 am
Bumping this as this wasn't completely fixed.

Only Guests still have access to this page, although now we can see the page's name in the Who Is Online listing:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=staff (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=staff)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: JDC on June 01, 2012, 08:27:34 am
I'm not sure, could be another bug.

How is this possible?

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3696/howisthis.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/howisthis.png/)

Perhaps he was viewing an IV:MP board you do not have access to.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on June 01, 2012, 02:25:35 pm
It's a known SMF bug. I guess you guys might want to suggest the idea in fixing the bug to SMF developers so perhaps they can possibly fix it. However to make you all aware, the guests are not viewing any confidential boards. It can be a cause where a guest is viewing a action - however usually that will show "Unknown Action".

For the Staff page, only guests may see it as it seems because of a accidental or could be purposely changed in the permissions.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Reece on June 01, 2012, 05:53:26 pm
Perhaps he was viewing an IV:MP board you do not have access to.

He!? That's me. I was viewing my own profile and it told me I was viewing nothing or nothing I could see.
Title: Re:
Post by: JDC on June 01, 2012, 06:09:56 pm
My brain is not functioning well today. o.o

How many times did you get that message?
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Gandalf on June 01, 2012, 06:13:52 pm
He!? That's me. I was viewing my own profile and it told me I was viewing nothing or nothing I could see.
First of all I usually wonder why people would even bother to check what others are doing.
Next, the text is a replacement of the earlier text ' Unknown action' which caused panic among forum administration on many SMF boards, and caused people like SugarD to ban loads of people viewing their profile....
There is no text that says ' hacking the forum'  so no need to get nervous.
Regarding staff page, permissions will be checked.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Ben. on June 01, 2012, 06:59:49 pm
I can see the staff list.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on June 01, 2012, 07:04:03 pm
...and caused people like SugarD to ban loads of people viewing their profile...
The bans I did on ARFD Forums were bots trying to use corrupted URL's to gain access to user accounts. They were trying to guess session ID's so they could log in as someone else. I haven't banned anyone for Unknown Actions. :P

Regarding staff page, permissions will be checked.
Thank you. That was the only issue I saw when I bumped the topic. I remembered you mentioning not long ago that no one had bothered to tell you about it, but it seemed to have been forgotten later on, so I figured I should remind everyone. :)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Gandalf on June 01, 2012, 07:14:55 pm
The bans I did on ARFD Forums were bots trying to use corrupted URL's to gain access to user accounts. They were trying to guess session ID's so they could log in as someone else. I haven't banned anyone for Unknown Actions. :P

Just kidding, but often people are panicking way too early about something.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on June 01, 2012, 07:17:54 pm
Just kidding, but often people are panicking way too early about something.
True...but I personally tend to take every threat seriously just in case. After all, Kolumbus used to be seen as a meaningless threat, and we know what happened there. :lol:

In all seriousness though, I do understand what you mean about the panic. That is why I've been trying to keep it to the higher-level boards lately as I don't want everyone thinking all hell has broken loose. I know I do tend to panic a bit much myself, though. :)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Gandalf on June 01, 2012, 07:41:52 pm
True...but I personally tend to take every threat seriously just in case. After all, Kolumbus used to be seen as a meaningless threat, and we know what happened there. :lol:

In all seriousness though, I do understand what you mean about the panic. That is why I've been trying to keep it to the higher-level boards lately as I don't want everyone thinking all hell has broken loose. I know I do tend to panic a bit much myself, though. :)
Actually Kolumbus was seen as serious, but after a recent change of server the defense was not yet up to standard.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on June 02, 2012, 12:58:55 am
Actually Kolumbus was seen as serious, but after a recent change of server the defense was not yet up to standard.
Well I know you and I took him seriously, but I do remember some who blew it off like other smaller threats, which is why I use him as an example these days. I'm not up for a repeat of that :razz:

By the way, the Staff List page seems to be fixed. Thank you Gandy! :)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Ted on June 02, 2012, 12:48:10 pm
Well I know you and I took him seriously, but I do remember some who blew it off like other smaller threats, which is why I use him as an example these days. I'm not up for a repeat of that :razz:

By the way, the Staff List page seems to be fixed. Thank you Gandy! :)

Oh no we treated it serious too :)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on June 02, 2012, 04:55:40 pm
Oh no we treated it serious too :)
Some did, some didn't, but that's beside my point, though. What I'm trying to get at is that sometimes we see things as an idle threat that can turn into something huge before we know it, so we should be careful to take every threat seriously. :)
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: Gandalf on June 12, 2012, 02:29:59 pm
Some did, some didn't, but that's beside my point, though. What I'm trying to get at is that sometimes we see things as an idle threat that can turn into something huge before we know it, so we should be careful to take every threat seriously. :)
The main issue is security, which is why we are not happy about using custom developed sites or software that are outside our control. Using large standard sites ensures many eyes who look after updates, and many hands working on fixing any vulnerability discovered.
Title: Re: Board/Feature Visibility Bug
Post by: SugarD on June 12, 2012, 08:12:29 pm
The main issue is security, which is why we are not happy about using custom developed sites or software that are outside our control. Using large standard sites ensures many eyes who look after updates, and many hands working on fixing any vulnerability discovered.
I couldn't agree more on that method. That's one of the reasons why I've tried to keep ARFD's software matching that of ARPD and Argo Forums', despite many others wanting me to use different things. I take security updates pretty seriously myself, so I don't even like going a single day with things being outdated. :lol:
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