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Title: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Luksro on January 05, 2012, 03:15:50 pm
Hello guys, ive got anOther idea ;). This command is for cops/fbi/noose. If they have some reason to think that sOmebOdy have drugs with him they can easily check him by this command. But he must stay opposite him to check him :D. Maybe thats bad idea but i have now nothink to do so i think about some ideas how to get better game. Sorry for mah english :)


Regard, Luksro.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 05, 2012, 03:40:13 pm
As in SA:MP /frisk command was removed long time ago, I don't support this idea.

People is not forced to RP so they can decide to RP they have drugs or not. This command would force it.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: miha1111 on January 05, 2012, 04:04:27 pm
I support this idea. I hate when peoples say don't have drugs and they actualy do.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Devin on January 05, 2012, 04:18:38 pm
The reason for this command being removed from the SA:MP Server is due to players abusing it, going around and using it on everyone that they knew would have drugs.
Therefore I am against adding this into the IV:MP Scripts.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 05, 2012, 04:29:44 pm
I support adding the command but I would suggest that this command can only be used when you have got a warren from the  judge to search someone for drugs. If there wont be any restrictions to the command and this command can freely be used, even if the user is highly ranked, then I dont support this. But if the use of this command is limited to certain situations only, then I do support it.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Luksro on January 05, 2012, 04:55:59 pm
As in SA:MP /frisk command was removed long time ago, I don't support this idea.

People is not forced to RP so they can decide to RP they have drugs or not. This command would force it.

Maybe upgrade this command like cop will do /cfg ID but other person could do /cfg agree or /cfg disagree.. :)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Rami on January 05, 2012, 04:58:54 pm
Already suggested (As /frisk), and got denied. It could be abused easily by any free-cop just to suspect a drugs-holder.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on January 05, 2012, 05:01:23 pm
That would be great. To search if you have warrant. First, we get a warrant from judge, then we searched some specific guy.. if he has any drugs on him, they will be taken from him. :)

Of course, the limitations should be there. Warrant could be given only for searching some highly suspicious persons, that are drugdealing beyond the limits ( Big fishes xD ).

And also, that cmd, if accepted, should be added only when the thing with houses is set on. So that they can empty theirs drugs there :]
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Luksro on January 05, 2012, 05:03:30 pm
That would be great. To search if you have warrant. First, we get a warrant from judge, then we searched some specific guy.. if he has any drugs on him, they will be taken from him. :)

Of course, the limitations should be there. Warrant could be given only for searching some highly suspicious persons, that are drugdealing beyond the limits ( Big fishes xD ).

And also, that cmd, if accepted, should be added only when the thing with houses is set on. So that they can empty theirs drugs there :]

That sound great! :D
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Lazlow on January 05, 2012, 06:03:58 pm
Hello fellas!

Please wait for house systems to be fully ready. Then you could activate this command as a "Body Search". that would show if you have any drugs on you. We wont carry drugs with us when we have places to store. :)

How about a bit more complicated? If you carry 10g of weed or less, the /search would have 50% chance on giving results? And could be used only once every 5 minutes on 1 player?

thats drugs.. should i mentioned weapon search too? ^^
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Luksro on January 05, 2012, 06:50:50 pm
Hello fellas!

Please wait for house systems to be fully ready. Then you could activate this command as a "Body Search". that would show if you have any drugs on you. We wont carry drugs with us when we have places to store. :)

How about a bit more complicated? If you carry 10g of weed or less, the /search would have 50% chance on giving results? And could be used only once every 5 minutes on 1 player?

thats drugs.. should i mentioned weapon search too? ^^

Yeah thats good too but i think that would be hard to script :D but yours idea is better then my. I am supporting your idea.  :neutral: :D
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: miha1111 on January 05, 2012, 08:27:32 pm
Don't want to get suspected? Dont carry drugs. Problem solved.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: yoske on January 05, 2012, 10:33:35 pm
We will need new in-game rules about this, cause it would be little stupid to go from player to player and write /cfd :)
But generally I like the idea.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on January 06, 2012, 03:17:42 am
I support this idea. I hate when peoples say don't have drugs and they actualy do.
It could be abused easily by any free-cop just to suspect a drugs-holder.
Use it for LCPD higher ranks and FBI higher ranks only...
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Luksro on January 06, 2012, 08:50:53 am
I am glad that you like my idea :)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 06, 2012, 12:20:59 pm
Already suggested (As /frisk), and got denied. It could be abused easily by any free-cop just to suspect a drugs-holder.

Restrict to officers+ - Solved.

Don't want to get suspected? Dont carry drugs. Problem solved.

Exactly. Why would a person run along the city with 5k drugs on him ? Doesnt make any sense. But atm there is nowhere to store drugs so Lazlows idea should be implemented first.

We will need new in-game rules about this, cause it would be little stupid to go from player to player and write /cfd :)
But generally I like the idea.

Yeah, some rules about when can you use this command. And if to restrict this command to officers+ then they as regular players of the server should understand and respect those rules.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on January 06, 2012, 12:32:48 pm
We could rp the warrent, but it can also be a cmd xD

Example: /warrant ID text

After that, on players screen would appear a message like the one when you show your identification ( Likes /sb ID ). Then the player can use cmd for search..

That one.. /checkdrugs, /cfd, /search.. or whatever xD

Also, this cmd should maybe be allowed only to FBI Agents and LCPD UC ( If something like that would be organized in future ). I think there is no need that "regular" officers do some searching for drugs, that's job for feds :P
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 06, 2012, 01:24:08 pm
It just forces RP imo.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 06, 2012, 01:50:57 pm
Can you bring an example of how this forces player to RP, without the command actually being abused at the same time.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on January 06, 2012, 02:02:17 pm
It just forces RP imo.

That's why only FBI would have that cmd. You wouldn't ( At least I hope you wouldn't ) just go around and show people a warrant then search 'em.. and do that like 5 times a day, until you hit the jackpot. It should be a little bit more rp style and targets should be carefully choose due to theirs activity on server. But, of course, you, the FBI, would deal with details for that.. how, when and who you will search. ^^

Also, the searching shouldn't be in short periods, like.. every day once, or every 3 days. It should be like maybe 3 time in one month max( per person of course ). :]


So.. "forcing" rp 3 times per month.. it ain't much. :)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 06, 2012, 02:33:12 pm
Can you bring an example of how this forces player to RP, without the command actually being abused at the same time.

If someone wants to RP that he has/doesn't have drugs he's forced to choose by the result of this /cfd.

Like when you are stopped by a criminal group you're not forced to /give the money but you can simply /me gives money . .
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 06, 2012, 02:39:26 pm
If someone wants to RP that he has/doesn't have drugs he's forced to choose by the result of this /cfd.

Well thats the thing, he has them ... If i dont want to go to jail then can I RP that I didnt do it ? Even though I m wanted. I think its the same thing. I agree with Miha, if u dont want to get caught then dont wear drugs with you. ANd why should someone randomly search you ? There can be rules attached to to the command to prevent randomly searching ppl. But if you are involved with organized crime then thats the risk you gonna have to take.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 06, 2012, 03:12:07 pm
What's their solution atm? Can they deposit the drugs somewhere? No.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 06, 2012, 03:14:43 pm
They can eventually.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 06, 2012, 03:19:13 pm
They can eventually.

Eventually . . .

Without that function it would be a bit unfair.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 06, 2012, 03:22:20 pm
I m not suggesting adding this command without ability to store drugs somewhere. I stated that in my previous posts already.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Ted on January 06, 2012, 03:37:28 pm
Restrict to officers+ - Solved.

That's pretty much what was thought for the SA-MP server did it solve anything? No.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: miha1111 on January 06, 2012, 03:40:06 pm
If someone wants to RP that he has/doesn't have drugs he's forced to choose by the result of this /cfd.

Like when you are stopped by a criminal group you're not forced to /give the money but you can simply /me gives money . .
NO!

You are not forcing anybody to RP with /checkfordrugs command in this case.....IF They dont want to RP having drugs - They should not have it.....problem solved...
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 06, 2012, 03:43:12 pm
That's pretty much what was thought for the SA-MP server did it solve anything? No.

What about adding special rules for the use of this command ? Breaking them will lead to punishments or demoting that officer for abusing this command. IV is small enough to keep an eye on everything, I dont think it will cause problems. In the other hand, I dont know the background of SAMP incidents.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Ted on January 06, 2012, 03:51:55 pm
Currently IV:MP is small enough but at some point in the future it may grow larger. You can go about setting rules, regulations and guidelines to everything possible but it just get that much more complicated.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Talya_taya on January 06, 2012, 11:15:16 pm
Good idea BUT...

Hello fellas!

Please wait for house systems to be fully ready. Then you could activate this command as a "Body Search". that would show if you have any drugs on you. We wont carry drugs with us when we have places to store. :)

How about a bit more complicated? If you carry 10g of weed or less, the /search would have 50% chance on giving results? And could be used only once every 5 minutes on 1 player?

thats drugs.. should i mentioned weapon search too? ^^

... I think we should wait for house systems (or at least somewhere that we can store drugs).

About the warrant, It's something unnecessary I think cos of just searching a player's body, why you have to get a warrant? :S

Don't want to get suspected? Dont carry drugs. Problem solved.

Killing a rp job is a solution? Can someone show me what is not a solution then?  :redface:

Only way to solve this problem is to give to high ranks of the mentioned factions... BUT it will completely destroy the drug busting operations that done by FBI Agents, which is one of the few RPs that gives fun..

/unsupported (until there is a house system)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Naic on January 07, 2012, 06:46:09 am
/unsupported (until there is a house system)

Yeah lets wait those houses to come :)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: yoske on January 07, 2012, 09:38:55 am
Yeah lets wait those houses to come :)

Houses are on the way, you are not supporting idea from wrong reasons. ;)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Mido on January 11, 2012, 10:35:52 am
I support adding the command but I would suggest that this command can only be used when you have got a warren from the  judge to search someone for drugs. If there wont be any restrictions to the command and this command can freely be used, even if the user is highly ranked, then I dont support this. But if the use of this command is limited to certain situations only, then I do support it.

Just Like THat  ^^ Supported
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: thejorens on January 11, 2012, 03:22:12 pm
I would love this command, coz i sometimes carry small amounts of drugs, hoping that a cop will ask if i have any, which they don`t coz everyone would lie to them, and as a result no cops actually enforce drugs :(
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 11, 2012, 06:36:06 pm
I would love this command, coz i sometimes carry small amounts of drugs, hoping that a cop will ask if i have any, which they don`t coz everyone would lie to them, and as a result no cops actually enforce drugs :(

Exactly. Who can actually check if player has drugs on him ? Even if police raids someone, they have no possible way to find drugs.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Driggz on January 12, 2012, 07:41:34 am
I definitely do not support this idea. SAMP had this command, i dont know if they still do, they simply use this command, and theyre goes all of their drugs.. Cops shouldnt force players to give up weed unless its roleplay and it heads that way, like a drug bust, where they confiscate the amount of drugs that was on the deal. If when cops ask if the person has any drugs on them, the player has the right to say yes or no.

NO!

You are not forcing anybody to RP with /checkfordrugs command in this case.....IF They dont want to RP having drugs - They should not have it.....problem solved...

My point. but I dont really see the need for the big letters. You can make your point pretty clear if you just simply put no.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 12, 2012, 01:54:40 pm
. . . Cops shouldnt force players to give up weed unless its roleplay and it heads that way, like a drug bust, where they confiscate the amount of drugs that was on the deal. If when cops ask if the person has any drugs on them, the player has the right to say yes or no.

Exactly. This ain't a real-life server.

Anyway adding this command would also turn the server into a cops'n'robbers because cops will find many drugs dealers.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on January 13, 2012, 03:17:00 pm
Only for FBI, and only for it's high ranked members :)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Driggz on January 14, 2012, 06:33:51 am
Only for FBI, and only for it's high ranked members :)

I wouldnt even say that FBI or any high ranked should have it either.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on January 14, 2012, 06:53:58 am
It would be abused alot if for random command, To be used only for /gu'd suspects and to be roleplayed. Besides that. Not to be used.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 14, 2012, 12:42:14 pm
Cops shouldnt force players to give up weed unless its roleplay and it heads that way, like a drug bust, where they confiscate the amount of drugs that was on the deal. If when cops ask if the person has any drugs on them, the player has the right to say yes or no.

Drugs are illegal, who is stupid enough to say that they carry drugs on them to a cop ? Because drugs are illegal, then the law (LCPD, FBI) should be able to confiscate them. Other option is simply to legalize drugs, then there is no need for a way to make sure whether the person is possessing drugs or not.

It would be abused alot if for random command, To be used only for /gu'd suspects and to be roleplayed. Besides that. Not to be used.

Would you abuse the command ? Do you think other FBI members with your rank would abuse this command ? If you answer "yes" to one of those questions then I agree that no such command should be available for FBI not LCPD. If not, then I dont see the reason not to allow the command for people who understand the procedures and and are so trusted so much by their faction that they have been given a very high rank.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on January 15, 2012, 05:32:26 pm
Nope. I wouldn't abuse it and I know my fellow colleagues wouldn't either. I was sayying as for a LCPD Freecop or Officer, i think it shouldn't be available to them because of such matters.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Batta on January 15, 2012, 06:04:42 pm
Why making differences? I would give the command to LCPD medium-high ranked too.
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Martin. on January 15, 2012, 09:51:23 pm
I think both factions deserve the command, and Leroy, I wasnt event thinking of giving the command to freecops :lol:. I think faction leaders should decide which rank is competent enough to use this command without abusing it. (If this command gets accepted in the first place)
Title: Re: /checkfordrugs (/cfd)
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on January 17, 2012, 06:30:10 pm
I think both factions deserve the command, and Leroy, I wasnt event thinking of giving the command to freecops :lol:. I think faction leaders should decide which rank is competent enough to use this command without abusing it. (If this command gets accepted in the first place)
Just using freecops as an example ;)
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