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Title: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: mahome on January 09, 2012, 07:45:02 pm: (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3705/swatlogofinal300x300.png)

Special Weapons And Tactics
Point Of View
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm239/Adomas2006/police-pov.jpg)
Introduction

S.W.A.T. Point Of View is a one week opportunity for all community members to watch how the SWAT Team handles situations. It's the most intense broadcast ever. SWAT POV captures what it's really like to be an operative, with every wild moment caught on SWAT's new AXON camera attatched to the helmet of an operative, from the operative's perspective. All the car chases,shoot outs and struggles with hidden guns, just as the SWAT members see it. You'll never look at law enforcement the same way again. It is an opportunity for everyone who is interested in public relations with the law enforcement organisation to gain more knowledge about it.

Time of broadcast

20:00 CET (/time) Everyday for the whole week.

How to tune in?
Micket733 - live streaming video powered by Livestream (http://www.livestream.com/micket733/)
Simply click on the link above and fasten your seatbelt because it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Other Information
The main broadcast is going to be from a camera which is attatched to the SWAT Commander's Ben Samiir (The Terminator) helmet providing you lots of action.

STATUS
ONLINE
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Mario_Rinna on January 09, 2012, 08:02:23 pm: Broadcasting DM online. I like!
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Orel on January 09, 2012, 08:18:33 pm: You are not funny.
First of all SWAT Is not a DM machine or what ever you call it,simple,you go and kill ARPD Officers with your combat shotgun and NRG-500,Then you try to evade,SWAT Is coming after you,telling you to surrender alot of times,you choose to evade with your NRG,We are ALLOWED to open fire in order to take your tires down,and then instead of surrendering,you choose in shooting at us and you die in 5seconds or so.
Also,how cop can DM suspects?You are suspect,we have reason to kill you if you refuse to surrender after alot of warnings.
And this is not argument topic,keep it clean.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Mario_Rinna on January 09, 2012, 08:25:44 pm: Quote from: Johnny_Escopa on January 09, 2012, 08:18:33 pm
You are not funny.
First of all SWAT Is not a DM machine or what ever you call it,simple,you go and kill ARPD Officers with your combat shotgun and NRG-500,Then you try to evade,SWAT Is coming after you,telling you to surrender alot of times,you choose to evade with your NRG,We are ALLOWED to open fire in order to take your tires down,and then instead of surrendering,you choose in shooting at us and you die in 5seconds or so.
Also,how cop can DM suspects?You are suspect,we have reason to kill you if you refuse to surrender after alot of warnings.
And this is not argument topic,keep it clean.
I don't even commit crimes, what are you talking about? :poke:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: TheRock on January 10, 2012, 01:25:40 am: Am I the only one who laughed hard at the topic name? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :poke: :redface:

Good Luck with this... :sig:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Driggz on January 10, 2012, 01:51:18 am: We have a show named Police POV, which is the same concept. Awesome show
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: SkyHawk on January 10, 2012, 02:30:03 am: This should be interesting. For you information Air, SWAT was created and designed for high profile ground situations, not to be in a pursuit.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Hevar. on January 10, 2012, 02:54:02 am: Quote from: TheRock on January 10, 2012, 01:25:40 am
Am I the only one who laughed hard at the topic name? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :poke: :redface:

Good Luck with this... :sig:

HAHAH!! You are not alone :D
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: SugarD on January 10, 2012, 05:09:37 am: Quote from: Driggz on January 10, 2012, 01:51:18 am
We have a show named Police POV, which is the same concept. Awesome show
Love that show.

I'm still awaiting to know why I witnessed SWAT breaking traffic laws earlier while code 4 via this video feed. :(
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on January 10, 2012, 05:18:52 am: Nice one Mahome and Ben Samiir :)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: ElMartu on January 10, 2012, 05:22:38 am: Quote from: [LA]SugarD on January 10, 2012, 05:09:37 am
I'm still awaiting to know why I witnessed SWAT breaking traffic laws earlier while code 4 via this video feed. :(

o shi
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: samiir on January 10, 2012, 06:15:44 am: Quote from: SkyHawk on January 10, 2012, 02:30:03 am
This should be interesting. For you information Air, SWAT was created and designed for high profile ground situations, not to be in a pursuit.

Really?? I did not know that, thanks for your information it's very appreciated.

The point of this Live Broadcasting is to show what SWAT exactly does in ArgonathRPG. It will give the citizen of Argonath the chance to see SWAT in action and behind the scenes.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Julio. on January 10, 2012, 08:44:11 pm: On it :3
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We can hear your sound too <3
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Orel on January 10, 2012, 10:27:59 pm: Quote from: joedaman633 on January 10, 2012, 08:44:11 pm
On it :3
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We can hear your sound too <3

Oh really,didnt know that :3
Next time I will talk little bit less. :D
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: samiir on January 11, 2012, 12:59:18 am: At the moment we are trying to improve the broadcast quality. We got many positive reactions and some loyal viewers who watch from the start till the end. Like i already said many people have a false image of SWAT or they make statements about something they never saw. In this Live Show people can witness how many rules/Procedures SWAT has to follow, and how they work in an very effective way.

SWAT also improved the cooperation with FBI and SAPD. If SWAT spots a situation who isn't part of there objectives they contact SAPD or FBI and guide them so they can perform an effective arrestation. Other way around also FBI/SAPD contacts us about an dangerous situation and they guide us to get the targets.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Caiden on January 11, 2012, 02:16:22 am: This should scare criminals off :lol:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: LoHi on January 11, 2012, 08:10:23 am: Stream on twitch.tv and use xsplit.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: mahome on January 11, 2012, 07:17:33 pm: Link updated, Broadcast live earlier today!
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2012, 07:21:43 pm: Quote from: LoHi on January 11, 2012, 08:10:23 am
Stream on twitch.tv and use xsplit.

You need a premium account to use XSplit
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: LoHi on January 11, 2012, 07:32:46 pm: Quote from: olleN on January 11, 2012, 07:21:43 pm
You need a premium account to use XSplit

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on January 11, 2012, 08:37:55 pm: why shoot fellow officers?
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: SugarD on January 11, 2012, 08:41:06 pm: Quote from: 9r2e5i3k on January 11, 2012, 08:37:55 pm
why shoot fellow officers?
I've witnessed a few questionable things too. SWAT's aim seems to be fine, but other lesser-focused items are making me question their legality in operations now...
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 11, 2012, 08:43:27 pm: Quote
ILoveBensPenisInMyAss: all ive seen you do so far is DM people and you DMed two cops, why does swat still exist if this is what they do?

What's going on?
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Nexxt on January 11, 2012, 08:54:48 pm: Luckily this topic does not say: "Question SWAT about the faults they make". I think SWAT is doing a good job (for all the haters who know I do not like SRU: I support them, even when I do not like it that much, so gtfo) and if you think they are breaking rules, make the screenshots and send them to the APRD forums.

This topic, is a nice view of our way of working.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 11, 2012, 09:00:08 pm: Why is SWAT on duty for patrols?
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: SugarD on January 11, 2012, 09:00:27 pm: Quote from: Nexxt on January 11, 2012, 08:54:48 pm
...make the screenshots and send them to the ARPD forums.
I agree with your statement there, however being that this is a live video feed, much may get missed since there is no way to go back to a specific time to take a screenshot. You have to quickly catch it in action.

Does this website provide archived videos of previous feeds?
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: kNzzZ on January 11, 2012, 09:04:00 pm: Yes, the livestreams are being saved after they end.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: SugarD on January 11, 2012, 09:11:04 pm: Quote from: kNzzZ on January 11, 2012, 09:04:00 pm
Yes, the livestreams are being saved after they end.
If there is a way to download them publicly, then that would be great for those that believe they witnessed something they wish to report so they can screenshot it that way then, using Nexxt's statement about it.

Awesome, another issue resolved. :)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: RuCa on January 11, 2012, 10:09:17 pm: Guys, JUst stop saying bullshit. SWAT is doing a great work in the field. Its their job to kill/arrest suspect in dangerous situations, not to kiss your ass when you are shooting SAPD/ARPD ass's.

Just drop that bullshits and moan.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jack White on January 11, 2012, 10:20:36 pm: Wow, not surprising the usual bullshitters come here and whine. I mean, you are witchunting. I watched this, EVERY night since they started streaming. What you are saying is complete bullshit. Shit happens, accidents happen. At every single thing thing that goes on here, someone goes whining. Not a single regulation was broken, on purpose. Sure, I have seen a lot of bullshit, with both admins, SWAT, FBI, ARPD and SAPD which could most likely get them kicked or at least punished. But I mean, accidents happens as I said, but you guys keep bullshitting on people you dont like. Im sorry for being this "brutal", but yeah, had to get it out.

No, I am not on SWATs side, I am permantly fired for a bullshit reason, so dont try to pull that card. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: BlackEagle on January 11, 2012, 10:25:57 pm: Quote from: 9r2e5i3k on January 11, 2012, 08:37:55 pm
why shoot fellow officers?
I was there, freecop opened fire at SWAT squad for no reason at all. It was self defense.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Que on January 11, 2012, 10:29:16 pm: "This channel has been deleted".
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jack White on January 11, 2012, 10:30:23 pm: Quote from: Que on January 11, 2012, 10:29:16 pm
"This channel has been deleted".
wat
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2012, 10:37:41 pm: Quote from: Que on January 11, 2012, 10:29:16 pm
"This channel has been deleted".

We are working on it. Stream is OFFLINE for now. Many lags, etc. We'll try an other site/software.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: HManK on January 11, 2012, 10:39:00 pm: Quote from: Mario_Rinna on January 09, 2012, 08:02:23 pm
Broadcasting DM online. I like!

You're not right, first off all, if you're a criminal its impossible SWAT DM you, DM Means : Killing a person with out reason, SWAT dont kill any one for no reason... Think before you post... :banana:
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Quote from: 9r2e5i3k on January 11, 2012, 08:37:55 pm
why shoot fellow officers?

I've witnessed that too, Free cop shooted SWAT , it was self-defence....
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Don_Cipone on January 11, 2012, 10:52:46 pm: What so many guys write here(bullshit) doesn not surprise me at all.You are just moaning about SWAT but did you at least try to watch their work?NO,you didn't.You say they DM?Well they are engaging suspects and there is a reason to shoot suspects so it cannot be called DM.Also,what do you want SWAT to do?While they are being shot would you like them to roleplay pulling out they combat?

Haters gonna hate.Don't worry SWAT,you're doing a great job.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: kNzzZ on January 11, 2012, 11:21:33 pm: Quote from: Don_Cipone on January 11, 2012, 10:52:46 pm
While they are being shot would you like them to roleplay pulling out they combat?

They also expect to /s Drop your gun, sir !
/s Please don't kill me sir, I'm roleplaying pulling out my combat !
/s Please stop shooting sir !
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on January 12, 2012, 12:13:02 am: @Jack White and others

The reason people bitch at SWAT(and SAPD high ranks) is because SWAT is supposed to be an elite group of officers that can handle every situation perfectly. Obviously, humans make mistakes, but it is no surprise that people will shit on SWAT if they are not acting accordingly. Same with SAPD high ranks, they're supposed to know the laws in and out and everything about SAPD and when they don't, they obviously get called out.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 12:23:51 am: Quote from: AirOrel on January 09, 2012, 08:18:33 pm
You are not funny.
First of all SWAT Is not a DM machine or what ever you call it,simple,you go and kill ARPD Officers with your combat shotgun and NRG-500,Then you try to evade,SWAT Is coming after you,telling you to surrender alot of times,you choose to evade with your NRG,We are ALLOWED to open fire in order to take your tires down,and then instead of surrendering,you choose in shooting at us and you die in 5seconds or so.
Also,how cop can DM suspects?You are suspect,we have reason to kill you if you refuse to surrender after alot of warnings.
And this is not argument topic,keep it clean.
:lol: You just got trolled. :lol:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: duffman on January 12, 2012, 12:24:33 am: Quote from: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on January 12, 2012, 12:13:02 am
@Jack White and others

The reason people bitch at SWAT(and SAPD high ranks) is because SWAT is supposed to be an elite group of officers that can handle every situation perfectly. Obviously, humans make mistakes, but it is no surprise that people will shit on SWAT if they are not acting accordingly. Same with SAPD high ranks, they're supposed to know the laws in and out and everything about SAPD and when they don't, they obviously get called out.
I shit on SWAT but it isn't because they are PERFECTS thats for sure...
Quote from: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on January 12, 2012, 12:13:02 am
elite group of officers that can handle every situation perfectly.
:trust:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jcstodds on January 12, 2012, 12:45:12 am: Only bad thing I have to say about SWAT - They kicked me out without saying even a word to me.

Oh and I was their Public relations guy :lol:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Julio. on January 12, 2012, 12:53:44 am: Quote from: jcstodds on January 12, 2012, 12:45:12 am
Only bad thing I have to say about SWAT - They kicked me out without saying even a word to me.

Oh and I was their Public relations guy :lol:

Same happened to me.

I never had SWAT forum rights, they posted an activity check I could not see, fired me for not responding. I never knew I was fired until they removed my ingame rights. I asked them why they did not notify me, they replied that it was in the SWAT section -.-

I then got my rights back, took the operative test twice, they never bothered saying the result and I was kicked for not bothering to do the test.

SWAT in my opinion? Hopeless.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 01:08:53 am: SWAT on Argonath are just other cops who can equip weapons. They do not act as SWAT should.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on January 12, 2012, 01:17:58 am: This is a topic to show some improvements with the SWAT with the public, not a argument topic.
If you have a complaint about a certain SWAT member, report to leaders in the ARPD forum is the way to go.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Chris_Knight on January 12, 2012, 03:33:45 am: Argonath community and public relation of swat? Let me translate it our language - Reason to wichhunt on every fart SWAT is commiting. Again engaging with AB00Z WEAPON EQUP CMD AMG . THIS IS NOT RP THA FUK and shit like that.

Guys you still do not understand Bens vision . Ben is adapting and making SWAT like GTA suppose have not liek you watch those USA L33T SWAT movies where they all pro and srs tactic's . Bens SWAT is efective with the rules Argonath have and as far they doing it good there is no point go moan or bullshit about somthing useless what comes up to your mind just to hate on them.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jcstodds on January 12, 2012, 09:16:22 am: If you make a public relations post... expect the response of the public. Of course you will get heckled. Just stay proffesional, do not feed any provocation.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: boostboy on January 12, 2012, 09:20:01 am: Since when SWAT patrols like normal police?..

SWAT? my ass, its SRU again.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Cyril on January 12, 2012, 12:00:45 pm: Quote from: Doggi on January 12, 2012, 09:20:01 am
Since when SWAT patrols like normal police?..

SWAT? my ass, its SRU again.

It's SWAT with SRU tactics. What's the problem ?
And no, SWAT do not patrol. When a situation is over, SWAT go on stand-by. Next time, inform yourself before talking shit.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Mashgash on January 12, 2012, 12:06:11 pm: If you show how you perform on the field expect response on every way from the public. Everyone can't be ''Hurray for SWAT!'', you'll meet people who don't like the way you carry out the duty as a SWAT unit. As you're the guys with the knowledge about the procedures and regulations (hopefully) you know that you acting accordingly.
Let the public say whatever they want, you defend the state, that's your job. As Jcs said, stay professional and do your work - You can't be liked by everyone.

The times I've seen those guys on the street it has been going down very effective and fast. Though it has changed but I like it a bit more then it was for couple of months ago. It's not SWAT for me, as SWAT are only called when the patrolling Officers can't handle the situation. Though it's effective to have these guys on the streets, especielly as it's going down fast and easy. Once ARPD (all departments, divisions) can gain some knowledge about cooperating it will be equal to this.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Cyril on January 12, 2012, 12:09:42 pm: We are not against response, but make it a bit more developped. Not only "omg DMers" "omg its SRU" "omg its not the job of SWAT"..
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: boostboy on January 12, 2012, 01:03:44 pm: Quote from: olleN on January 12, 2012, 12:00:45 pm
It's SWAT with SRU tactics. What's the problem ?
And no, SWAT do not patrol. When a situation is over, SWAT go on stand-by. Next time, inform yourself before talking shit.

aka, SRU

And SWAT doesn't patrol? mind explaining why i see 'SWAT COMBAT PATROL' in the radio a lot of times when you do your stuff?

Also, wondering why SWAT suddenly came out of nowhere, when i suspected someone for evading, a few weeks back
And just yesterday, i ask backup for a airborn suspects, and you where all busy.

Way to go!
Correction, i asked backup for more then TEN MINUTES - withowd getting ANY reply, after that the simple comment i got was 'take a plane, a partner and shoot him down'
Good job, i must admit.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 01:12:36 pm: Quote from: olleN on January 12, 2012, 12:00:45 pm
It's SWAT with SRU tactics.
Yeah, let's just say SRU.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Orel on January 12, 2012, 01:15:16 pm: Quote from: Doggi on January 12, 2012, 01:03:44 pm
aka, SRU

And SWAT doesn't patrol? mind explaining why i see 'SWAT COMBAT PATROL' in the radio a lot of times when you do your stuff?

Also, wondering why SWAT suddenly came out of nowhere, when i suspected someone for evading, a few weeks back
And just yesterday, i ask backup for a airborn suspects, and you where all busy.

Way to go!
Correction, i asked backup for more then TEN MINUTES - withowd getting ANY reply, after that the simple comment i got was 'take a plane, a partner and shoot him down'
Good job, i must admit.
Really?please stop spreading wrong rammours against SWAT team.
1. SWAT never catch suspects that wanted for minor crime such as evading,reckless driving,ONLY for situations that SAPD can't handle such as heavy code 30's,assisting in 207,211.
2. How do you know that we "didnt" catch that suspect?who told you that?You asked backup in the radio,I asked the plate,you answered and we pursuited him with our buffalos and M4 while he used a shamal.we caught him and his partner WITHOUT a heavy air as you asked,beacuse we have another tactics and not just /call hydra to take a plane down.
3. If you have a complaint about SWAT - Take it to ARPD forums instead of arguing in this topic about something that is not even the truth.
4. Does it matter SRU or SWAT?We are SWAT,not SRU.We are using SRU tactics to catch suspects alive instead of just killing them.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Cyril on January 12, 2012, 01:19:12 pm: Quote from: Doggi on January 12, 2012, 01:03:44 pm
aka, SRU

And SWAT doesn't patrol? mind explaining why i see 'SWAT COMBAT PATROL' in the radio a lot of times when you do your stuff?

Also, wondering why SWAT suddenly came out of nowhere, when i suspected someone for evading, a few weeks back
And just yesterday, i ask backup for a airborn suspects, and you where all busy.

Way to go!
Correction, i asked backup for more then TEN MINUTES - withowd getting ANY reply, after that the simple comment i got was 'take a plane, a partner and shoot him down'
Good job, i must admit.

- Yes SWAT doesn't patrol. We check MDC to see if there is any dangerous known criminal or we wait for a backup call on dangerous suspect in the radio. When nothing happen for us, we stay on stand-by.

- Yes, we don't deploy Hydra or Hunter for a suspect airborn. We won't stop our operation to deploy a hydra/hunter. As I said, team up with a partner and take a Dodo/Beagle and stop being lazy. I think criminals are also agree with this option. We reached to catch a suspect in a Shamal with a Buffalo, so you see that Hydra/Hunter is not required anymore since criminal have to land a day or an other.

If you have more complain about SWAT, please post a topic on ARPD Forum, report to leaders section. I don't think we need to explain to YOU anything about SWAT regulations and procedures. If you are not happy about SWAT, feel free to post a report on ARPD forum.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: boostboy on January 12, 2012, 01:20:58 pm: I am NOT TALKING about someone in a goddamn Shemal, i'm talking about a suspect in a Stunt plane, that i was chasing in another plane, SWAT was doing shit, but still refused to give ANY backup.

SRU is back! Huraay!
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Orel on January 12, 2012, 01:25:31 pm: Really?Provoking,lieing..
I wont even reply to your posts anymore.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: boostboy on January 12, 2012, 01:26:11 pm: Quote from: AirOrel on January 12, 2012, 01:25:31 pm
Really?Provoking,lieing..
I wont even reply to your posts anymore.

Couse you can't handle the truth. :)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Don_Cipone on January 12, 2012, 01:57:29 pm: Doggi no offense but have you at least watched at their work?From your words you didn't so you are just trying to say that they are useless with no evidence.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jack White on January 12, 2012, 01:59:15 pm: Quote from: Doggi on January 12, 2012, 01:26:11 pm
Couse you can't handle the truth. :)
I find it funny how butthurt you are. Even if none wants to patrol with you, there is no need for you to whine like a bitch. Man up, train, be as good as them, be better. Make a team. And if you dont want to do that, I am sorry and you might as well get out of here.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: boostboy on January 12, 2012, 02:13:56 pm: I have patrolled with SRU in the past, plus i had them on my ass when i was a suspect (few months back)

Nothing has changed. Don't like to hear the truth? to bad.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jack White on January 12, 2012, 02:25:36 pm: Quote from: Doggi on January 12, 2012, 02:13:56 pm
I have patrolled with SRU in the past, plus i had them on my ass when i was a suspect (few months back)

Nothing has changed. Don't like to hear the truth? to bad.
Doubt you patrolle for a long, or anything serious. And if you patrolled with them you are obviously shit seeing they havnt asked you to join anymore. And what do you mean with noting has changed?
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Chris_Knight on January 12, 2012, 02:34:55 pm: To say it honestly new SWAT with SRU tactic is indeed just an SRU as there is pure SRU tactics and way of work instead of SWAT one wich was different . You might say SRU is SWAT but all new SWAT have is the name "SWAT" more than that it is SRU however you take it. Yet it doesn't makes end of the world as far group works efectivly,obviously it's not doing it old SWAT way but instead SRU way ,yet it is efective and works pretty good therefore I don't know what this all braging about.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Plam_Knight on January 12, 2012, 03:16:57 pm: Why does every SAPD/SWAT related topic turns in to moan fest ?
Especially this topic gives you golden chance to spot something wrong, so if you see something done wrong by SAPD/SWAT, instead of moaning go to ARPD forums and file up a complain. But as well consider that SWAT and SAPD laws at some point are unknown to you, so make certain that you really do know the laws before you go around report/moaning.
As well for criminals side, just because these people bust some of you everyday, doesn't mean that you most certainly should just go here and start moaning without any proper reason.

S.A.P.D. Captain P.Knight
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 12, 2012, 03:49:14 pm: Quote from: AirOrel on January 12, 2012, 01:15:16 pm
Really?please stop spreading wrong rammours against SWAT team.
1. SWAT never catch suspects that wanted for minor crime such as evading,reckless driving,ONLY for situations that SAPD can't handle such as heavy code 30's,assisting in 207,211.
Bullshit.
I was watching the stream for a pretty long time and they go after every murder, which even freecops can handle.

About some guys in this topic saying that SWAT doesn't patrol, you do. I saw it with my own eyes.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 12, 2012, 03:56:04 pm: Quote from: Plam_Knight on January 12, 2012, 03:16:57 pm
Why does every SAPD/SWAT related topic turns in to moan fest ?
Especially this topic gives you golden chance to spot something wrong, so if you see something done wrong by SAPD/SWAT, instead of moaning go to ARPD forums and file up a complain. But as well consider that SWAT and SAPD laws at some point are unknown to you, so make certain that you really do know the laws before you go around report/moaning.
As well for criminals side, just because these people bust some of you everyday, doesn't mean that you most certainly should just go here and start moaning without any proper reason.

S.A.P.D. Captain P.Knight
Moaning is good.
You can't shut up if someone lies in people's faces.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Plam_Knight on January 12, 2012, 04:21:07 pm: Quote from: crook on January 12, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
Moaning is good.
You can't shut up if someone lies in people's faces.

Well don't consider every thing that SWAT member tells you as a "lie".
You don't know the new SWAT regulations fully, every commander is able to differ the rules of SWAT, in the current case that is Commander Ben Samiir and he changes the rules the way he sees fit for SWAT(SRU). And if SAPD Dpt.Chief+ saw something wrong with the rules, they would/will step in.
So if you think that they are doing something wrong, then please do report it to SAPD and we will handle it.
But again before you moan/report/say someone is lying, please do make certain that you know the current SWAT rules.

S.A.P.D. Captain Plam Knight
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Mashgash on January 12, 2012, 04:36:58 pm: Seems as everyone comparing ARGO-SWAT with SWAT in real life. Indeed SWAT shouldn't patrol randomly but if the SAPD and SWAT Command want it that way let them have it that way. Can't understand the issue you guys see here, really. They isn't breaking any server rules and if you are'nt aware of the current regulations and procedures in the current SWAT you shouldn't get involved in it.

Let them do it they way they want, any abuse or/and breach against rules can be reported, the discussion are pointless.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Julio. on January 12, 2012, 05:10:57 pm: Well, yeah, it is more of an SRU, Doggi is right.

Just because you are SWAT does not mean you stop patrolling as a regular officer.

If I was your superior and all you did was SWAT Patrols then you'd be out on your ass before you could say 'Fire'...

If this is how SWAT is going to be, the SWAT members may as well have their SAPD Rank removed and purely be SWAT...
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Plam_Knight on January 12, 2012, 05:20:55 pm: Quote from: joedaman633 on January 12, 2012, 05:10:57 pm
Well, yeah, it is more of an SRU, Doggi is right.

Just because you are SWAT does not mean you stop patrolling as a regular officer.

If I was your superior and all you did was SWAT Patrols then you'd be out on your ass before you could say 'Fire'...

If this is how SWAT is going to be, the SWAT members may as well have their SAPD Rank removed and purely be SWAT...

Indeed that SWAT(SRU) shouldn't be always out and it won't make any sense if they are constantly out, but so far from what SAPD CMD has seen is that SWAT(SRU) are out there only at the evenings, when its the most active time of Argo and when there is a lot of criminals on the streets.

And I can assure everyone that if SWAT(SRU) is seen to be out constantly or they are seen to abuse anything or break any regulations, they will be punished severly.

S.A.P.D. Captain Plam Knight
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Julio. on January 12, 2012, 05:29:11 pm: Alright, thanks for clarifying Plam ;)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jack Rosso on January 12, 2012, 06:20:15 pm: I've seen the broadcasting, and i must say it was a good job you guys did out there.. Still there are people who are talking without facts, but those will always remain on here. I love the idea of showing your work towards the rest of Argonath, something which normally doesnt appear, and i personally think we're in need of SWAT (including the work they are doing right now).

To those who think this is just ''DM'' and ''Heavy weapons cop abuse'', You probably haven't seen the broadcast or didnt watch as long as you should.. Everything they did yesterday, was allowed and NEEDED.

Regards
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: mahome on January 12, 2012, 06:55:23 pm: Quote from: Doggi on January 12, 2012, 02:13:56 pm
I have patrolled with SRU in the past, plus i had them on my ass when i was a suspect (few months back)

Nothing has changed. Don't like to hear the truth? to bad.

I see why now.

Haters gonna hate.

Oh and for your little backup call, we don't take out hydra and take the suspect down in the most boring way. We like to take a challenge and take them down old fashion way. If you do like heavy air support then ask for SAPD or fellow members of FBI. We as a SWAT, won't be calling a backup with heavy air support on suspect wanted for fisting or so...
Have a nice day.
Post Merge: January 12, 2012, 07:37:12 pm
Broadcast online.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Tomer on January 12, 2012, 09:01:33 pm: This Live stream is seems to me very hepfull , As reminded , it also very helpfull for better communication rather then TS with whispering Keys .
S.W.A.T. is very appreciated by their hard work and by thay way of being professional and to their things quietly and nicely .
The Things that I mentioned above , Couldnt be dont without Thier Dear Command Staff : The_Terminator ( Ben_Samiir ) .
Keep it up S.W.A.T. ! :)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Yannick_M on January 12, 2012, 09:06:09 pm: What is this moaning all about, I can hear it from miles away.

SWAT is doing their job, You comit crimes, You choose to kill someone; It is pretty obvious if you kill someone with a gun, SWAT Is gonna respond to you and take you out with force needed.

SWAT Gives you all the time you need to give up, The moment you get suspected, You have chance to giveup. Yet some of you try to run and when your car gets disabled you decide to step out and aim your weapon, Maybe if you directly give up after your vehicles gets disabled you wont get killed, But what you choose for is to step out and fight for a penny. Obviously most of the times you will get teabagged in a matter of a second if its SWAT. Then you are mad and you go to here and moan because you lost the fight.

Take the concequences when not complying to SWAT, One advice, See SWAT Coming for you? Give up, if you cant handle 'em.

No i'm not protecting SWAT or any of the SWAT Members, I'm just stating how things are.

Like I said before, You choose to kill, deal with the concequences, You have 2 options; Give up or Try and fight and most likely get taken down.

I get taken down by SWAT(SRU) aswell several times, But I choose for that way; As I get my fun out of it to try and run/fight SWAT now, especially now i'm out of SAPD.

Think SWAT Broke regulations or they didn't treat you how they should? There is an ARPD Forum Report section. Like plam said File a complaint there, But don't come here and start moaning or throwing accusations.

As for the Livestream idea, Good idea and hopefully it works out as SWAT Command wishes how it will work out.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on January 12, 2012, 10:03:53 pm: I'm also waiting for a "criminal" stream so I can moan on them too.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Tomer on January 12, 2012, 10:27:55 pm: Thank you very much SWAT, i was watching all evening from my bed and i saw the best teamwork i have ever seen.
Nice job The_Teminator ! :)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Vice on January 12, 2012, 10:50:47 pm: As I see, the most remarks were posted.. because the SWAT is active and very effective on the field.
Dont blame something, just because its good. Probably you would be more happy if there wont be SWAT organisation on the server... and the dissapointing reality is, even those can lift up one's voice who are not experienced at all in the Organised SA-MP police work.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: newguy on January 13, 2012, 05:33:55 am: It's funny how only SWAT and SAPD say that they are doing a good work in this topic.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: kNzzZ on January 13, 2012, 09:48:46 am: Because SWAT and SAPD know what's like to be a cop, not a criminal as most of you are.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Plam_Knight on January 13, 2012, 02:55:07 pm: Quote from: newguy on January 13, 2012, 05:33:55 am
It's funny how only SWAT and SAPD say that they are doing a good work in this topic.

Well that is pretty obvious, criminal's side won't come here congratulating the group that are pain in the a** for them.
And on another side SAPD/FBI are congratulating them for their hard work, because only law enforcement groups are able to see, that SWAT(SRU) are saving multiple lives on the streets of Argonath everyday.

S.A.P.D. Captain Plam Knight
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: ChasKa on January 13, 2012, 03:08:38 pm: Quote from: Plam_Knight on January 13, 2012, 02:55:07 pm
Well that is pretty obvious, criminal's side won't come here congratulating the group that are pain in the a** for them.
And on another side SAPD/FBI are congratulating them for their hard work, because only law enforcement groups are able to see, that SWAT(SRU) are saving multiple lives on the streets of Argonath everyday.

S.A.P.D. Captain Plam Knight
:cry: :rofl:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Yannick_M on January 13, 2012, 09:38:34 pm: Quote from: ChasKa on January 13, 2012, 03:08:38 pm
:cry: :rofl:

Yes you've read that right, SWAT saves multiple lives in the US of Argonath everyday.

So explain me, whats the funny part? I can't see the funny thing in his post :s
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Julio. on January 14, 2012, 12:18:47 am: Quote from: Yannick_M on January 13, 2012, 09:38:34 pm
Yes you've read that right, SWAT saves multiple lives in the US of Argonath everyday.

So explain me, whats the funny part? I can't see the funny thing in his post :s
SWAT saves lives by killing criminals. Chaska is a criminal. Thus the crying face. The rofl face would be because it's slightly ironic and amusing.

That was my take on it anyway.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: ChasKa on January 14, 2012, 08:30:50 am: Quote from: joedaman633 on January 14, 2012, 12:18:47 am
SWAT saves lives by killing criminals. Chaska is a criminal. Thus the crying face. The rofl face would be because it's slightly ironic and amusing.

That was my take on it anyway.
What?I'm not even a criminal anymore :cry:I'm sad when people say I'm criminal :(
I'm just a person who works all day long and suddenly one day being kidnapped by bunch of hola-a**hole criminals.
And luckily police comes and I though Thanks god,they are hero and will come and save me. :cop: :cop: :pop: :pop:
Ten seconds later,I heard "This is Law and surrender",bullet splashed in the car and I find myself being suspected for aids :(
ANd I find myself in the heaven after 20seconds:pop: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Later,I get a personal message ""Sorry ,I think it's a wrong suspection xDD""

Now,I'm sitting next to jesus christ and seeing this statement,if you were me,will you find it ironically funny. :money: :money:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: mahome on January 14, 2012, 08:16:44 pm: Broadcast Live
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Vice on January 15, 2012, 07:43:23 pm: Good show boys. :cowb:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Jack Rosso on January 15, 2012, 08:34:55 pm: Going live tonight? Been waiting for 30 min :3
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: mahome on January 15, 2012, 08:50:30 pm: Broadcast Live
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: SushiSaurus on January 17, 2012, 07:11:01 pm: I'll try my hand at some public relations.

In my opinion (I always stress this - unless a factual statement) SWAT. Special Weapons and Tactics, designed to handle dangerous situations that go beyond the call of regular officers.

Real life, we mostly see them handling stationary situations (or at least I have) like bank robberies, hostage situations and breaching buildings for a plethora of reasons. In Argonath, the differences between real life and game become very obvious. Sadly, mostly during the situations that occur between the police community and the criminal community. The SAPD adapt to it, hence SWAT have as well. When a high priority target that would decimate most police cruisers pops up, SWAT goes to handle it, that is what we see a lot and that (IMO) is what SWAT is for in Argonath. I cannot stress what I mean by 'in Argonath'.

We are in a game, albeit that we play as though we are in the real world to a certain degree. SWAT has adapted, as best it can to handle the threats that most endanger citizens of San Andreas. Whereas former SRU tactics have become several current SWAT tactics, they are effective, there is no doubt. Whether they are real life SWAT tactics, not the ones we know. My point in this, is that SWAT has become what it needs to become to combat the dangerous primary threats in Argonath San Andreas.

I as a member of SWAT, have not been around a lot recently and I admit fault there. But when I am around, I try to train what a lot of people see as SWAT. Tactical movements, building clearance, interaction and what not (as well as vehicular tactics). But there also comes the time where I need to hunker down and do my job as a member of SWAT, handle the threat whether the people of Argonath like me or not.

And that's just it. Just like in real life, people will not like an organisation based on their beliefs of how things should be. Again, although we are in a game, it's just the way it works. People, will not like you, sometimes. Especially when what you do directly conflicts with what they like to do or think.

To be brutally honest. SWAT is a damned effective unit, handling what needs to be handled, when it needs to be handled. We hold the title of SWAT because of what we do, not how we are portrayed in comparison to the real life counterpart.

I won't argue that SWAT has been perfect. Real life isn't perfect, our game is far from that, more so than real life.

All in all. IMO. I don't know people think about me, overall I honestly don't care as long as I'm having some fun with some friends.

Regards,
SAPD Member Kelvin 'Sushi' Gould

But most importantly, a member of Argonath
(Isn't that why we are here?)
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Webster on January 17, 2012, 08:44:50 pm: Very interesting to watch this, great teamwork and response, you're doing a good job keeping the Argonath safe guys, keep it up!
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Josh_White on January 17, 2012, 10:41:47 pm: For some reason i dont get this life stream thing...
For me SWAT is something Special. Not Public, they response, doing their job and go to HQ. Everything should be in secret.
But for you its something like show, Oh Yeah we SWAT ... i belive its looks good on the video. But yeah keep it like this. Swat is already destroyed, only buffalos etc. soo i dont care. But dont wonder when after some week Criminals gona use ur tactics on you, cause then i gona lol.

Quote from: crook on January 12, 2012, 03:49:14 pm
About some guys in this topic saying that SWAT doesn't patrol, you do. I saw it with my own eyes.

Saw it aswell

Soo Yeah keep the Show running.

Regards.
Rob Williams
Post Merge: January 17, 2012, 10:56:38 pm
and yeah forgot to add, dont take my reply as moan or smth like that. Its just my opinion, my view point on it, not smth what should make u angry or smth. Soo dont quote me with smth like "Haters gona hate, gtfo" or shit like that. I know that swat is professionalism and teamwork. By self i still remmember the tactics and such :P
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Vice on January 18, 2012, 06:58:38 pm: Sushi said everything... If you still have doubts, just read it again.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Oliver_Daniels on January 19, 2012, 11:49:21 am: Broadcasting a SWAT operation was something that the germans did in 1972. It wasn't a good idea back then, it isn't a good idea now.
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Chris_Knight on January 19, 2012, 12:56:47 pm: Quote from: Oliver_Daniels on January 19, 2012, 11:49:21 am
Broadcasting a SWAT operation was something that the germans did in 1972. It wasn't a good idea back then, it isn't a good idea now.
Awsome post :lol:
Title: Re: S.W.A.T. | Operation Point Of View | Public Relations
Post by: Perza on January 19, 2012, 01:32:19 pm: Quote from: Mario_Rinna on January 09, 2012, 08:02:23 pm
Broadcasting DM online. I like!