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Title: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 01:02:06 pm
In past few days when i was watching some clips about GTA IV.
In some comments i saw people saying that niko is a Croat, Polish, Russian, and even Slovakian, but 100% not Serbian!!!

By my opinion he is a Serb beackose troughout the game he is speaking serbian, and in intro his cousin roman says to him, and i quote "Better than my serbian!"
I wann see your opinions on this.

All is left to /discuss!
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 12, 2012, 01:44:44 pm
He is Serbian. Searched for his nationality some days ago and found everything about itt. Now I searched and found only this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_Bellic#Early_life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_Bellic#Early_life)

EDIT: His mother's name is Milica wich is a early Serbian name.
EDIT2: Roman is a Russian name,so I think he is from a Serbian-Russian family.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 01:50:45 pm
Great, ill post link to this topic on youtube.
Gonna burry those bastards!
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 12, 2012, 01:55:20 pm
Lol they will have to register,haha you are bringing new players to Argo,thanks!!  :lol: :D
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 02:05:02 pm
GTA IV - Niko Bellic is NOT Serbian. - ROCKSTAR. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE4Pe447Sr0#)


Nobody can claim Niko's nationality, simply because it is one of the mysteries in the game, as Rockstar puts in all their games. Just like in San Andreas of who killed CJ's mom, there is no right answer! So you can think and claim all you want, nobody is right, only Rockstar. Rockstar did not make Niko to be Serbian, Croatian or which ever nationality, they made him to be a mystery in the game.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 12, 2012, 02:09:03 pm
Watch GTA SA intro on youtube there are 2 parts and you can see who kiled CJ's mom. (Ballas with the green sabre,and the black cop said to the ballas to kill her)
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 02:13:47 pm
GTA IV - Niko Bellic is NOT Serbian. - ROCKSTAR. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE4Pe447Sr0#)


Nobody can claim Niko's nationality, simply because it is one of the mysteries in the game, as Rockstar puts in all their games. Just like in San Andreas of who killed CJ's mom, there is no right answer! So you can think and claim all you want, nobody is right, only Rockstar. Rockstar did not make Niko to be Serbian, Croatian or which ever nationality, they made him to be a mystery in the game.
Man if you bothered to read my first post you would notice that in the intro roman said "better than my serbian" by wich he ment that he knows english better than his first language-serbian.

Also look on the youtube or just play the game. You will see that niko is a serb.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 04:47:22 pm
Watch GTA SA intro on youtube there are 2 parts and you can see who kiled CJ's mom. (Ballas with the green sabre,and the black cop said to the ballas to kill her)
Yes, but now think. Was Tennpenny talking about the "job" as for killing CJ's mom? No, you cannot say that, since there is no evidence that backs that up. And yes, ballas were seen shooting from the Green Sabre. But then later in the game, Ryder and Smoke are seen with CRASH and the same green Sabre. So you still do not know if it was a balla that killed CJ's mom, Ryder or Smoke. So you are also wrong on that.

Man if you bothered to read my first post you would notice that in the intro roman said "better than my serbian" by wich he ment that he knows english better than his first language-serbian.

Also look on the youtube or just play the game. You will see that niko is a serb.
Serbian is not spoken just by Serbs, in case you did not know. And if you bothered reading any information on Niko's nationality, you would know that Rockstar kept it unexposed because it is what they wanted to do. You can't say that he's Serbian when the CREATORS of the game made it a mystery, which nobody can be right about it, and so people can argue on about it. They did not add the mystery so it can be figured, but only so it can be argument able and anonymous.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 05:07:09 pm
Serbs, "Bosnians" and people from "Montenegro" speak serbian.

All of staded are Serbian blood.
Bosnians are Serbs who sold theyre souls to Islam when the turks came.
Montenegrians are a madeup nation. They are Serbs wich speak "ijekavicu". A version of serbian language wich have bigger use of letter "Đ" and "J". (idk how to explain it on english :P)
Montenegrians are Serbs wich have been transfered to Montenegrians beackose of western influence.
Please do not teach me about my nation, my language and my people.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Jubin on January 12, 2012, 05:13:56 pm
Serbs, "Bosnians" and people from "Montenegro" speak serbian.

All of staded are Serbian blood.
Bosnians are Serbs who sold theyre souls to Islam when the turks came.
Montenegrians are a madeup nation. They are Serbs wich speak "ijekavicu". A version of serbian language wich have bigger use of letter "Đ" and "J". (idk how to explain it on english :P)
Montenegrians are Serbs wich have been transfered to Montenegrians beackose of western influence.
Please do not teach me about my nation, my language and my people.

Just because people speak the same language, mean they are the same nation? Well tell that to Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Welsh, Irish Scottish who all speak English.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 05:23:14 pm
Just because people speak the same language, mean they are the same nation? Well tell that to Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Welsh, Irish Scottish who all speak English.
But you just do not get it...
Bosnians are SERBS who transfered to ISLAM.
MONTENEGRIANS are madeup nation along with BOSNIANS.
MONTEHEGRIANS are just SERBS who speak version of serbian language with bigger use of letters "Đ" adn "J".50+% OF PEOPLE IN MONTENEGRO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE SERBS. OTHERS ARE INFLUENCED BY WESTERN PROPAGANDA THAT WISHES COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF SERBIA!
FFS DO RESEARCH!!!
Or just come here and ask anyone :P

RSTAR games seem to know bout it, and there was several moments in wich characters say frases like

"Niko? That Serb?" or when "You piece of Serbian imigrant shit" etc...
I dont have the game, but i did watch most cutscenes on youtube.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Salmonella on January 12, 2012, 05:32:53 pm
Chill out Aleksander.

Niko is serbian, If you would play GTAIV, which most of us completed in 2009/2008, you would've already known this.. It's an un-important detail of the game.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 06:50:22 pm
Serbs, "Bosnians" and people from "Montenegro" speak serbian.

All of staded are Serbian blood.
Bosnians are Serbs who sold theyre souls to Islam when the turks came.
Montenegrians are a madeup nation. They are Serbs wich speak "ijekavicu". A version of serbian language wich have bigger use of letter "Đ" and "J". (idk how to explain it on english :P)
Montenegrians are Serbs wich have been transfered to Montenegrians beackose of western influence.
Please do not teach me about my nation, my language and my people.
Hi, nobody was asking you what blood they are. When you ask them they are not going to tell you they are Serbian. You mean Bosniaks, not Bosnians. Bosnians are either Serbs, Croats or Bosniaks. Teaching you? You are ignorant about it.

But you just do not get it...
Bosnians are SERBS who transfered to ISLAM.
MONTENEGRIANS are madeup nation along with BOSNIANS.
MONTEHEGRIANS are just SERBS who speak version of serbian language with bigger use of letters "Đ" adn "J".50+% OF PEOPLE IN MONTENEGRO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE SERBS. OTHERS ARE INFLUENCED BY WESTERN PROPAGANDA THAT WISHES COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF SERBIA!
FFS DO RESEARCH!!!
Or just come here and ask anyone :P

RSTAR games seem to know bout it, and there was several moments in wich characters say frases like

"Niko? That Serb?" or when "You piece of Serbian imigrant shit" etc...
I dont have the game, but i did watch most cutscenes on youtube.
Again, not Bosnians, but Bosniaks.
How is Montenegro a "made up" nation? Because it separated from Serbia and it's now a separate nation?
Take your own advice, and do some research.
I've spoken with many people from Montenegro, none of them claimed they were Serbs, only the ones that are Serbs and just living there. I've been there many times, I would know.

Niko is called different names through-out the game, so just like every other thing that gets you closer to saying he is a Serb, there is no complete evidence, which just takes you where you were.

Niko is serbian, If you would play GTAIV, which most of us completed in 2009/2008, you would've already known this.. It's an un-important detail of the game.
Okay, give me a real fact or where RockStar states that he IS Serbian.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 07:05:17 pm
Ok instead of writing insanely large text am just gonna give you this link.

GTA IV - Niko Bellic is Serbian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uHTvgtCEhM#)
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 07:16:34 pm
"He's from that gray part of broken-down Eastern Europe, a war-torn area."

I wonder where that place could be... kind of hard to decide since there was more than one war in that area. That is all you have from Rockstar, everything else is just reviews from others. Why would Sam Houser not say anything to spoil it? A nationality would not be that important, but just another mystery, as I stated fifty times earlier.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 07:34:52 pm
Ok man since i do not want to bore all those people am gonna PM you something that will show you that he is a SERB.                 
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 12, 2012, 08:11:15 pm
The information that you copy pasted in my PM just basically states "Ever Slav is a Serb". Therefore you are only saying that even if he is a Croat, or whatever the hell, that he is anyway a Serb. Which is not completely correct anyways.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Squeak on January 12, 2012, 08:14:22 pm
serbs are serbs
croats are catholic serbs
boasniaks are muslim serbs
montenegrins are sea serbs
 :neutral:
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 08:15:25 pm
Sorry, i copy n paste from wrong   site...
Am too lasy to search for right one so i pmed you that stuff based on what ihave seen with my own 2 eyes.

Post Merge: January 12, 2012, 08:16:59 pm
serbs are serbs
croats are catholic serbs
boasniaks are muslim serbs
montenegrins are sea serbs
 :neutral:
Yes!
Why didnt i think to wright it like that?!
Damit!
Thank you for making it easier!
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 12, 2012, 08:40:07 pm
Just because people speak the same language, mean they are the same nation? Well tell that to Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Welsh, Irish Scottish who all speak English.
American = English + Italian + Chinese people, Canadians = English + French people,
Australians = Ennglish middle age slaves + some other country's. New Zelanders = English + Aborigines, Welsh,Irish,Scottish = English people who didn't like England.
Same as for Serbs.
Bosniaks = Serbian people who transefer to islam due to Ottoman empire influence.
Croatians = They think they are not even Slovens.
Montenegrian = Serbian people who live under western influence.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 08:47:37 pm
oh yeah and americans are over-see serbs and turks are eurasian serbs and chinese are asian serbs and whole africa is actually serbia and basicly the whole planet is serbian to be precise
So sad to see your brain scrumbeled by western crap...
You are serbian blood and ottoman religion...
Serbs were first people on balkains  ;)

NOW FROM THIS LINE READ ALL OR YOU WILL NOT GET THE WHOLE STORY!
In lepenski vir there are SERBIAN villages, graveyards, pottery and sculptures 5.000BC old...
DNA from all those skeletons match Serbian DNA  ;).

If DNA analysis does not proove shit, than IDK what does?

P.S. read Stefan Vrdniks post please.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: BlackEagle on January 12, 2012, 09:06:35 pm
Hey Aleksandar. I completely agree with you bro. Everyone knows the Serbs were the first people on Balkans... They are just so shy to admit that ;) ;) ;). I've done some research and found out that Albert Einstein was actually a Serb. Because, he was so intelligent. Serbs are so intelligent too, so that proves Einstein was a Serb. Another thing that USA has always been hiding...; They found Serbian type of shit in the DNA of AREA 51 Alien!! YEAH THEY DID! MIGHTY SERBIAN KNIGHTS MUST'VE HIT SOME ALIEN BI**HES DURING THEIR CONQUEST OF THE SPACE. SERBS DID THE FIRST SPACE EXPLORATION OF HUMAN HISTORY ABOUT 3000 YEARS AGO. SERBS EVERYWHERE BRO. VIVA SERBIA. YOU ROCK, REST OF THE WORLD ARE JUST SERBS' SLAVES MAN.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 09:15:15 pm
Hey Aleksandar. I completely agree with you bro. Everyone knows the Serbs were the first people on Balkans... They are just so shy to admit that ;) ;) ;). I've done some research and found out that Albert Einstein was actually a Serb. Because, he was so intelligent. Serbs are so intelligent too, so that proves Einstein was a Serb. Another thing that USA has always been hiding...; They found Serbian type of shit in the DNA of AREA 51 Alien!! YEAH THEY DID! MIGHTY SERBIAN KNIGHTS MUST'VE HIT SOME ALIEN BI**HES DURING THEIR CONQUEST OF THE SPACE. SERBS DID THE FIRST SPACE EXPLORATION OF HUMAN HISTORY ABOUT 3000 YEARS AGO. SERBS EVERYWHERE BRO. VIVA SERBIA. YOU ROCK, REST OF THE WORLD ARE JUST SERBS' SLAVES MAN.
Do not bealive me?
Come to Serbia one summer and check it out with your own eyes.
Or google it ;)
Both ways you will see that i am telling the truth. Man you now took a shit on the floor.
You CANNOT denie truth. I can bet my dick that what i said is truth, MY DICK!
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 12, 2012, 09:25:43 pm
It was pretty obvious from your first post here that u don't have a dick to bet on sir, your argument is invalid.
Come to Lepenski Vir and SEEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES!!!

BOSNIANS=SERBS WHO SOLD THEYRE SOULS TO ISLAM
CROATS= SERBS WHO TRANSFERED TO CATOLIC CHRISTIANITY BEACKOSE THEY EXPECTED PROTECTION FROM POPE!!!

COME TO SERBIA AND CHECK IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES!!!
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Orel on January 12, 2012, 09:30:06 pm
Calm down aleksandar..
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 13, 2012, 12:01:14 am
croats are catholic serbs
Not all.
Serbs were first people on balkains  ;)
The hell they were not! Are you forgetting the Illyrians, Dardanians and Thracian? Slavs came to the Balkans in the 6th century from Russia and Belorussia. They were settled in "White Serbia", which is today Poland. And then from there, you guys are split up in all these sub groups which makes everyone's head hurt.
In lepenski vir there are SERBIAN villages, graveyards, pottery and sculptures 5.000BC old...
DNA from all those skeletons match Serbian DNA  ;).

You came in the sixth century, the only way this would make sense is if you were descendants from Illyrians or Thracians. The "Lepenski Vir" just states your first traces of settlement in general, not in the Balkans!

In conclusion:
Hey Aleksandar. I completely agree with you bro. Everyone knows the Serbs were the first people on Balkans... They are just so shy to admit that ;) ;) ;). I've done some research and found out that Albert Einstein was actually a Serb. Because, he was so intelligent. Serbs are so intelligent too, so that proves Einstein was a Serb. Another thing that USA has always been hiding...; They found Serbian type of shit in the DNA of AREA 51 Alien!! YEAH THEY DID! MIGHTY SERBIAN KNIGHTS MUST'VE HIT SOME ALIEN BI**HES DURING THEIR CONQUEST OF THE SPACE. SERBS DID THE FIRST SPACE EXPLORATION OF HUMAN HISTORY ABOUT 3000 YEARS AGO. SERBS EVERYWHERE BRO. VIVA SERBIA. YOU ROCK, REST OF THE WORLD ARE JUST SERBS' SLAVES MAN.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on January 13, 2012, 12:58:49 am
Wow nice arguments man, love your use of facts and proves too, really depth-full. Especially the !!!s made me believe you straight away. I liked the soul part too  :lol:. Get a girlfriend or something man srsly this forum is killing ya ;)
Yea i already have one, but i am in southern Serbia, on a vacation... BAAAAAD IDEA!!!
There are places with 1m of snow ffs... All i am left is to stay at home and chill infront TV or PC all day :P
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Squeak on January 13, 2012, 05:28:38 am
are you going to tell me that alexander was macedonian? xd
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Jubin on January 13, 2012, 10:58:00 am
are you going to tell me that alexander was macedonian? xd
Nope actually Alexander the Great was an Indian dude who founded and spread 7/11 all across Persia, Egypt and Macedonia and Greece.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: BlackEagle on January 13, 2012, 11:28:17 am
Alexander was Serb.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 13, 2012, 12:45:12 pm
Hey Aleksandar. I completely agree with you bro. Everyone knows the Serbs were the first people on Balkans... They are just so shy to admit that ;) ;) ;). I've done some research and found out that Albert Einstein was actually a Serb. Because, he was so intelligent. Serbs are so intelligent too, so that proves Einstein was a Serb. Another thing that USA has always been hiding...; They found Serbian type of shit in the DNA of AREA 51 Alien!! YEAH THEY DID! MIGHTY SERBIAN KNIGHTS MUST'VE HIT SOME ALIEN BI**HES DURING THEIR CONQUEST OF THE SPACE. SERBS DID THE FIRST SPACE EXPLORATION OF HUMAN HISTORY ABOUT 3000 YEARS AGO. SERBS EVERYWHERE BRO. VIVA SERBIA. YOU ROCK, REST OF THE WORLD ARE JUST SERBS' SLAVES MAN.
Albert Einstein had a secret. He was a German jew,and his wife,Mileva Maric was a Serb orthodox. Because women didn't hhave the rights to speak in pubic,have a job,or any other thing. She was actually the brain of Einstein. Albert just provided her ideas into the rest of the world. And please don't shit on my country,cause I am not shitting on yours. Alexander speaks 80% of truth. I wish yoou could understand,but for unknown reason almost the whole word  will hate Serbia. Because of it's religion,teritory,or just because we are with Russia,but they can't say anything about Russia,cause Russia has atomic bombs an shits....And yea,like you said:
VIVA LA SERBIA.
Zivela Srbija.

And Search for "Dusan the Mighty" on google... ;)

Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 12:47:56 pm
Nope actually Alexander the Great was an Indian dude who founded and spread 7/11 all across Persia, Egypt and Macedonia and Greece.
Jubin wrong again,WTF is wrong with you bro.
Alexanders father was Greek,and his mother was Macedonian (Macedonians are something like Serbs,they were studyed Bulgarian. And Bulgars studyed Russian).
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: BlackEagle on January 13, 2012, 12:55:21 pm
Ahh man.
I don't know why, but for some reason almost all you guys claim to be the best race in the world, that every successful man in the history are of Serbian descent, that Serbs are the master of Balkans and Albanians Croats etc are fake Slavs. Another point, almost every Serb I know has some paranoid view like "EVERYONE HATES US". The reason is most likely that you are full of hate against rest of the World. I like you guys, we have a lot in common. We share a lot of cultural stuff. but you guys gotta calm the f**k down man, seriously, chill.

says a turk, lmao
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 13, 2012, 01:12:57 pm
Serbs are the master of Balkans and Albanians Croats etc are fake Slavs.
Croats themselfs think that they are not slavs,Albanians are NOT Slavs,they came on Balkans like 100 years before Slavs,they comed from the Kavkas mountain,The place where now is Armenia.
almost every Serb I know has some paranoid view like "EVERYONE HATES US".
Ofc,we hatet them when they hate us. I hate only ex Yugoslavian countryes (Exept Slovenia - they are funny Zmajciki,and Macedonia they are funny too) ,Albania (Reason is really known,they "took" Kosovo),Turkey (because they tortured Serbs 500 years) and America (because of bombing). This is not a small number of country's and you will hear this from every single Serb. And in every movie you can see SERBS and RUSSIANS who act BAD people. And every thing we make it's against the rules (Like this: USA protest,few years ago XXX pople jailed about 20 killed and XX injured,well nothing it's good. Serbia two years ago: Pride parade,100 people injured 70 jailed,3-6 died. OMG U CRAZY BASTARD HOW COULD YOU LET THAT HAPPEN?!? Last year pride parade canceled cause same would happen: OMG U CRAZY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS!! - No matter that many cops were injured..). Explan this balance to me,and tell me why shouldn't we hate them?
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Kojak on January 13, 2012, 02:59:52 pm
This thread has been reported for turning into a political discussion which as you know we don't allow, however amazingly after three pages it hasn't turned into a flame war so I will allow this to stay open even though it has basically gone off topic. Stay respectful to each other and express your views considerately.

If it turns into a shit storm I will have to lock it.

Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 13, 2012, 03:51:39 pm
Croats themselfs think that they are not slavs,Albanians are NOT Slavs,they came on Balkans like 100 years before Slavs,they comed from the Kavkas mountain,The place where now is Armenia.
You all are Slavs, but that doesn't mean that every Slav is a Serbian. When you came into the Balkans, different groups settled in different places, therefore having similar, but not yet the same languages, and other things. The Albanians from Caucasus Albania did not come until much later... but we were also already settled in Dardania long before Slavs came into the Balkans (Which was the 6th cenury.)

Quote
(Reason is really known,they "took" Kosovo)
What exactly did you mean by this?




Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 03:58:04 pm
Ofc,we hatet them when they hate us.
Not really. Was the complete reason of "hatred" the fact that you tried to get rid of Bosniaks, as well as the Kosovo Albanians?
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: BKP on January 13, 2012, 04:43:51 pm
Niko is italian
The italian man who went to Malta - 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmH6Q9id8bs#)
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 13, 2012, 06:44:38 pm
This thread has been reported for turning into a political discussion which as you know we don't allow, however amazingly after three pages it hasn't turned into a flame war so I will allow this to stay open even though it has basically gone off topic. Stay respectful to each other and express your views considerately.

If it turns into a shit storm I will have to lock it.
It's coo'nigg'  :cool: .

What exactly did you mean by this?
That we (Serbs) hate you (Albanians,or how you call yourself and we call you Squiptares - Or how's it written on English).
Not really. Was the complete reason of "hatred" the fact that you tried to get rid of Bosniaks, as well as the Kosovo Albanians?
The war in Bosnia was started by Croats who wanted to take the whole Bosnian territory by themselfs,and Serbs ofc were protecting it. (Anyway Bosnia was a Serb country that a Austr-hunagian king made to a own country Bosnia before the World War 1) Bosniaks messed in the job and got killed as by Serbs,by Croatians too. And now couuple of them want to take another part of Serbian territory and make it to "Republic of Sandzak". As for the "Kosovars": They camed on Serbian territory Kosovo and lived there first peacefully. Than an Albanian terrorist group KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army),started to kill Serbs and other albanians on Kosovo joined them. The war at Kosovo has begon,and Serbian soliders brought KLA soliders to the border. After NATO bombing '99 (Where conflict at Kosovo should be stoped by bombing the whole territory of Serbia (Which makes me confused)) Serbia retreated,and had no perrmission to come back and defend it's territory. After that Albanian Kosovars started to destroy Serbian marks (Wich can never be destroyed because Serbia was founded there),and turn Serbian Orthodox churches into mosques wich they proudly pointed out. You better don't know how Serbian people live there now,in addition to NATO soldiers and the UNMIK mission.....

Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 07:16:38 pm
ON TOPIC:  :lol:
Take a closer to the 2nd picture:
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Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 13, 2012, 08:22:08 pm
It's coo'nigg'  :cool: .

That we (Serbs) hate you (Albanians,or how you call yourself and we call you Squiptares - Or how's it written on English).
Yes, but why? Because we "took" Kosovo? It's spelled "Shqiptars".

The war in Bosnia was started by Croats who wanted to take the whole Bosnian territory by themselfs,and Serbs ofc were protecting it. (Anyway Bosnia was a Serb country that a Austr-hunagian king made to a own country Bosnia before the World War 1) Bosniaks messed in the job and got killed as by Serbs,by Croatians too. And now couuple of them want to take another part of Serbian territory and make it to "Republic of Sandzak".
So killing innocent civilians and trying to get rid of all Bosniaks is protecting your land? Teenagers and kids were even killed. How is that PROTECTING? That is terrorizing. You Serbs managed to commit the worst crime since WW2. And after all of the innocent and sick killings, you still consider Mladic a "hero". Why do you think people hate you?

As for the "Kosovars": They camed on Serbian territory Kosovo and lived there first peacefully. Than an Albanian terrorist group KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army),started to kill Serbs and other albanians on Kosovo joined them. The war at Kosovo has begon,and Serbian soliders brought KLA soliders to the border. After NATO bombing '99 (Where conflict at Kosovo should be stoped by bombing the whole territory of Serbia (Which makes me confused)) Serbia retreated,and had no perrmission to come back and defend it's territory. After that Albanian Kosovars started to destroy Serbian marks (Wich can never be destroyed because Serbia was founded there),and turn Serbian Orthodox churches into mosques wich they proudly pointed out. You better don't know how Serbian people live there now,in addition to NATO soldiers and the UNMIK mission.....
We came in Serbian territory? LOL. When you first came to the Balkans in the 6th century you did not even settle in Kosovo (at that time it was not Kosovo, it was Dardania.) Serbians settled outside the borders of today's Kosovo. When you came there, Albanians had ALREADY been there. "Dardania" is even an Albanian word, coming from "dardh" and "Dardania" meaning a place with a lot of pears. That is also why there is male Albanians that have the name "Dardan" and "Ilir", since Dardania was a province in Illyria at that time. The Serbs did not take control of the place of Dardania only until 1219, and then lost it on 1389. Then of course you were handed Kosovo in 1912, and "serbification" was forced on population, names etc. Oh yeah, once again the Serbian is complaining about terrorism, but in 1995 you started ethnic cleansing on the Bosniaks only because they are Muslim. There was no other reason, your terrorist leaders' reasons were "It is time to get rid of those 'Turks'"(Because during the Ottoman Empire they decided to go with Islam.) Videos are even show of Mladic saying so, and phone calls were even recorded and are CLEAR evidence that were used in the Hague. Then the same thing happens in Kosovo, you Serbs start ethnic cleansing on Kosovars. When villages of Albanians were destroyed and ethnic cleansed, the reasons from the Serb's side was "We were getting rid of Terrorists". But it ended up even babies and little kids being slaughtered. These atrocities kept going, and that's when NATO had to intervene, they did not want another Srebrenica incident. Milosevic was given chances to move out of Kosovo, but he refused, and that resulted in Serbia getting bombed. Serbia did not start in Kosovo, you claim it is your's because of what? A battle that happened against the Ottomans. That battle wasn't even defended by Serbia, but ALL Christian nations, which even included Albanians back them because were Christians until Ottoman Influence.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: BlackEagle on January 13, 2012, 09:17:30 pm
This thread has been reported for turning into a political discussion which as you know we don't allow, however amazingly after three pages it hasn't turned into a flame war so I will allow this to stay open even though it has basically gone off topic. Stay respectful to each other and express your views considerately.

If it turns into a shit storm I will have to lock it.


I guess now you have to lock it..
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 13, 2012, 09:53:07 pm
I guess now you have to lock it..
Nah.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Jubin on January 13, 2012, 10:40:41 pm
Why is it even important that you want everybody convinced that Niko is Serbian? He is a damn criminal.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 13, 2012, 11:04:18 pm
Yes, but why? Because we "took" Kosovo? It's spelled "Shqiptars".
So killing innocent civilians and trying to get rid of all Bosniaks is protecting your land? Teenagers and kids were even killed. How is that PROTECTING? That is terrorizing. You Serbs managed to commit the worst crime since WW2. And after all of the innocent and sick killings, you still consider Mladic a "hero". Why do you think people hate you?
We came in Serbian territory? LOL. When you first came to the Balkans in the 6th century you did not even settle in Kosovo (at that time it was not Kosovo, it was Dardania.) Serbians settled outside the borders of today's Kosovo. When you came there, Albanians had ALREADY been there. "Dardania" is even an Albanian word, coming from "dardh" and "Dardania" meaning a place with a lot of pears. That is also why there is male Albanians that have the name "Dardan" and "Ilir", since Dardania was a province in Illyria at that time. The Serbs did not take control of the place of Dardania only until 1219, and then lost it on 1389. Then of course you were handed Kosovo in 1912, and "serbification" was forced on population, names etc. Oh yeah, once again the Serbian is complaining about terrorism, but in 1995 you started ethnic cleansing on the Bosniaks only because they are Muslim. There was no other reason, your terrorist leaders' reasons were "It is time to get rid of those 'Turks'"(Because during the Ottoman Empire they decided to go with Islam.) Videos are even show of Mladic saying so, and phone calls were even recorded and are CLEAR evidence that were used in the Hague. Then the same thing happens in Kosovo, you Serbs start ethnic cleansing on Kosovars. When villages of Albanians were destroyed and ethnic cleansed, the reasons from the Serb's side was "We were getting rid of Terrorists". But it ended up even babies and little kids being slaughtered. These atrocities kept going, and that's when NATO had to intervene, they did not want another Srebrenica incident. Milosevic was given chances to move out of Kosovo, but he refused, and that resulted in Serbia getting bombed. Serbia did not start in Kosovo, you claim it is your's because of what? A battle that happened against the Ottomans. That battle wasn't even defended by Serbia, but ALL Christian nations, which even included Albanians back them because were Christians until Ottoman Influence.
Dardania is a part mor near the Shar-Mountain (Or how's in English),The first Serb dinasy was the family of Nemanjici,and that was the first Serb "kingdom". The capital was Raska,NE of Kosovo. It was started around 1116 I think,lazy to search now,but I know that the 3rd king came in the date you meantioned,1219. On the territory of Kosovo in that time lived Slavics,and LITTLE of Albanians. And laters Serbs obeyd the whole region. War itself has it's rules as you may know,in the War on "Kosovo Polje" 28th June 1389 Serbs fought against the Ottomans. Milos Obilic killed the Turk sultan and than some random Turk killed "Knez Lazar Hrebeljanovic". So the fight was over when the Ottoman sultan was killed.
As for the War in Bosnia: Like I said in my previous post. Croats attacked Serbian people in Bosnia who lived very close to the Serbian border,so like any other country would do,they attacked back. And so begon the war,unfortunetly Bosnians were killed in the war aswell,ofcourse than Bosnia joined the war too. People would be killed and than SFOR (Like KFOR exists on Kosovo) joined and had theyr own rules. They keept muslims in safe where Serbia or Croatia couldn't attack. So muslims abused that and started to kill both Serbs and Croats and run back to safety so they couldn't do anything. Than when Mladic got enough of it,he got in and killed all of them (Don't say nobody would do such a thing). As for Kosovo now: So as I can see you agree that KLA was a terrorist organisation. Well one of them was Hasim Tachi who is now the "prime minister of Kosovo". I think that ways all about that "country" . Did you ever heard of the "Yellow house" in Albania where Albanians brought kidnaped Serbs,children,women (There's even a book about it..)... Also I may try to find a video of Albanian GOOD people destroying SERBIAN MONASTERYES,and BURNING them,if you want...
I guess now you have to lock it..
I think also,because he begon to speek like I did all that,he is insulting me :O

Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 11:04:39 pm
Why is it even important that you want everybody convinced that Niko is Serbian? He is a damn criminal.
He's the main character...
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: cDa on January 13, 2012, 11:11:52 pm
Cant you all agree he is an ex-Yugoslavian ?
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Salmonella on January 13, 2012, 11:18:53 pm
Why is it even important that you want everybody convinced that Niko is Serbian? He is a damn criminal.
That's the first thing I thought when I read the first post, actually.

Basically you want to ( try and ) proof to everyone in here, that a fictional. -criminal- character is from the same country that you are. Now that doesn't really make sense. After that, you start a ''discussion'' on how other ex-Yugoslavian countries are supposed to be ''serbs'' in reality. Do you know how offensive that is to people from these countries? Why are you even suggesting such bullshit? You're either trolling or just plain stupid, to say it kindly.


He's the main character...
That's the point. He's a fictional character. Even if you want to ''claim'' Niko, you're only claiming a broke immigrant, LEAVING your oh-so-nice county for the United States to parttake in heavy criminal activities. If Niko Bellic was to be real, which he very much seems to be in your minds, he would be a disgrace to whichever country he is from.
 
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 13, 2012, 11:26:08 pm
Cant you all agree he is an ex-Yugoslavian ?
No,we don't like Yugoslavia like you do. You're a Yugoslav..
That's the first thing I thought when I read the first post, actually.

Basically you want to ( try and ) proof to everyone in here, that a fictional. -criminal- character is from the same country that you are. Now that doesn't really make sense. After that, you start a ''discussion'' on how other ex-Yugoslavian countries are supposed to be ''serbs'' in reality. Do you know how offensive that is to people from these countries? Why are you even suggesting such bullshit? You're either trolling or just plain stupid, to say it kindly.

That's the point. He's a fictional character. Even if you want to ''claim'' Niko, you're only claiming a broke immigrant, LEAVING your oh-so-nice county for the United States to parttake in heavy criminal activities. If Niko Bellic was to be real, which he very much seems to be in your minds, he would be a disgrace to whichever country he is from.
 
Lol,no.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Salmonella on January 13, 2012, 11:30:49 pm
Lol,no.
You just lost again.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 13, 2012, 11:56:30 pm
Dardania is a part mor near the Shar-Mountain (Or how's in English),The first Serb dinasy was the family of Nemanjici,and that was the first Serb "kingdom". The capital was Raska,NE of Kosovo. It was started around 1116 I think,lazy to search now,but I know that the 3rd king came in the date you meantioned,1219. On the territory of Kosovo in that time lived Slavics,and LITTLE of Albanians. And laters Serbs obeyd the whole region. War itself has it's rules as you may know,in the War on "Kosovo Polje" 28th June 1389 Serbs fought against the Ottomans. Milos Obilic killed the Turk sultan and than some random Turk killed "Knez Lazar Hrebeljanovic". So the fight was over when the Ottoman sultan was killed.
I don't care about those dates nor Raska. Of course during those dates may have lived little less Albanians, because it was 6 centuries after the Slavs arrived in the Balkan, and this would be during the time they took control of Kosovo (1219.) I am talking about YEARS and YEARS B.C., not just some centuries later that you Slavs conquered, because the province of Dardania had unsuccessful wars with Maurice and the Slavs. There again you go with bull shit. SERBS WERE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT FOUGHT THE TURKS IN THE BATTLE. All Christian nations were in it, because Serbs were not the only ones defending Christianity and trying to push away the Ottomans. But even back then you wanted to get credit for trying to push away the Ottomans, because when the Hungarians attacked and Skanderbeg sent his troops to join in the battle, a gang of Serbians ambushed them and they were not able to even reach the battle field. Even when we were trying to fight away the Ottomans, you back stabbed. The only reason people claim that Serbians were the only ones that fought is just so another "fact" can be used to say "Kosovo is Serbia".

As for the War in Bosnia: Like I said in my previous post. Croats attacked Serbian people in Bosnia who lived very close to the Serbian border,so like any other country would do,they attacked back. And so begon the war,unfortunetly Bosnians were killed in the war aswell,ofcourse than Bosnia joined the war too. People would be killed and than SFOR (Like KFOR exists on Kosovo) joined and had theyr own rules. They keept muslims in safe where Serbia or Croatia couldn't attack. So muslims abused that and started to kill both Serbs and Croats and run back to safety so they couldn't do anything. Than when Mladic got enough of it,he got in and killed all of them (Don't say nobody would do such a thing). As for Kosovo now: So as I can see you agree that KLA was a terrorist organisation. Well one of them was Hasim Tachi who is now the "prime minister of Kosovo". I think that ways all about that "country" . Did you ever heard of the "Yellow house" in Albania where Albanians brought kidnaped Serbs,children,women (There's even a book about it..)... Also I may try to find a video of Albanian GOOD people destroying SERBIAN MONASTERYES,and BURNING them,if you want...
What!? You are saying thousands and thousands of Bosniaks were killed because Serbs and Croats had their own conflict? SFOR didn't even exist until 1996. Maldic's terror was done in 1995. I am not agreeing to KLA being a terrorist group at all, they were our freedom fighters, but it is obvious that you are saying Mladic's terror was okay, yeah he was a Bosnian Serb, but it aided straight from Beograd. Yeah, and your dictator Milosevic was a terrorist, that's why he was in the Hague and was obviously was going to be found guilty, I even have weird feelings that he did not even die, but why, do not even question me on it. When these Albanian "terrorist" are proven guilty in the Hague, then you can argue with me on it. The information on the house is still unsubstantiated. Even if this is proven, the information claims that this was done after NATO came into Kosovo in 1999. By this time massacres and other atrocities were already done by the Serbs. I already know about what video you are talking about, as I have saw it. I may not agree with what was done during that time in 2004, but you must know that both sides have these hooligans that have so much hatred gathered up that they would do things like that. Albanian Mosques were also destroyed in our Historical lands by Serbians years and years ago. Our lands were targeted by invading intentions for a long time. Albanians extended up to NIS. There were many Mosques, but there is only ONE now left there, and it's not even in good condition. It is known as the "Gjakova Mosque". Your people started all these conflicts way before the Albanians, then retaliated in the same nasty way.

Cant you all agree he is an ex-Yugoslavian ?
I can, but there is just no CLEAR evidence that he is exactly Serbian.

I think also,because he begon to speek like I did all that,he is insulting me :O
You had it coming because you simply provoked it when you said "Albanians took Kosovo".

You're a Yugoslav.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Serbs?
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Squeak on January 14, 2012, 12:34:22 am
>mfw
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Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Rick. on January 14, 2012, 01:39:09 am
Ikr..
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Michael_LV on January 14, 2012, 07:19:17 am
This is almost turned into a fight topic, I believe it should be locked.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 14, 2012, 01:18:59 pm
I don't care about those dates nor Raska. Of course during those dates may have lived little less Albanians, because it was 6 centuries after the Slavs arrived in the Balkan, and this would be during the time they took control of Kosovo (1219.) I am talking about YEARS and YEARS B.C., not just some centuries later that you Slavs conquered, because the province of Dardania had unsuccessful wars with Maurice and the Slavs. There again you go with bull shit. SERBS WERE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT FOUGHT THE TURKS IN THE BATTLE. All Christian nations were in it, because Serbs were not the only ones defending Christianity and trying to push away the Ottomans. But even back then you wanted to get credit for trying to push away the Ottomans, because when the Hungarians attacked and Skanderbeg sent his troops to join in the battle, a gang of Serbians ambushed them and they were not able to even reach the battle field. Even when we were trying to fight away the Ottomans, you back stabbed. The only reason people claim that Serbians were the only ones that fought is just so another "fact" can be used to say "Kosovo is Serbia".
What!? You are saying thousands and thousands of Bosniaks were killed because Serbs and Croats had their own conflict? SFOR didn't even exist until 1996. Maldic's terror was done in 1995. I am not agreeing to KLA being a terrorist group at all, they were our freedom fighters, but it is obvious that you are saying Mladic's terror was okay, yeah he was a Bosnian Serb, but it aided straight from Beograd. Yeah, and your dictator Milosevic was a terrorist, that's why he was in the Hague and was obviously was going to be found guilty, I even have weird feelings that he did not even die, but why, do not even question me on it. When these Albanian "terrorist" are proven guilty in the Hague, then you can argue with me on it. The information on the house is still unsubstantiated. Even if this is proven, the information claims that this was done after NATO came into Kosovo in 1999. By this time massacres and other atrocities were already done by the Serbs. I already know about what video you are talking about, as I have saw it. I may not agree with what was done during that time in 2004, but you must know that both sides have these hooligans that have so much hatred gathered up that they would do things like that. Albanian Mosques were also destroyed in our Historical lands by Serbians years and years ago. Our lands were targeted by invading intentions for a long time. Albanians extended up to NIS. There were many Mosques, but there is only ONE now left there, and it's not even in good condition. It is known as the "Gjakova Mosque". Your people started all these conflicts way before the Albanians, then retaliated in the same nasty way.
I can, but there is just no CLEAR evidence that he is exactly Serbian.
You had it coming because you simply provoked it when you said "Albanians took Kosovo".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Serbs?
I see they are teaching you in school to believe in western shit standards. Milosevic was killed in middle of Hague. Not even Mladics case is finished yet,so you have no rights to say he is a terrorist too. YES KLA IS TERRORIST ORGANISATION AND IT IS KNOWN,YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE IT BUT THE CRIMES ARE INPOSIBLE TO HIDE. And why didn't you reposnd to the "Yellow house"? Cause you don't have nothing to say about it. Again,Serbians even built the now 2nd biggest city in Albania,Skadar,there is a epic song about it. You lived always in the mountains,thats why you called Shquptars,cause it means ''Mountain man". There is neither a video or something else of Serbs burning mosques. Italian journalist made a movie about Kosovo you should really watch it. Serbs always lived on that part of Serbia. And Albanians didn't join the fight at 1389. cause they already were in Ottoman empire. Serbs and Serbs from Bosnia (Which were sent by the commander of that serbian terrotory for help) were fighting. "Aren't you all Serbs?" No there are still people who believe in Tito's "bullshit" as I call it. And stop finding stupid reasons to blame me for starting to provoke.
"Kosovo is Serbia".
Yes,ikr.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Kojak on January 14, 2012, 01:31:24 pm
This is almost turned into a fight topic, I believe it should be locked.

Almost is acceptable, I do not mind heated debate as long as it stays respectful. If that line is walked over I will close it then.



There is one point I want to make, that is to say there is one particular individual who is pushing the boundaries of acceptability more than others and this message is to you. You should remember that I will not hesitate to ban you if you give me cause, and as each day passes since issuing that warning, you are stepping closer and closer to that line.

You will either restrain yourself and treat the users of this forum with proper respect or you will lose your rights to use it and I may reverse the generous approach I took with your in-game account too.

Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: cDa on January 14, 2012, 01:44:22 pm
thats why i liked old Yugoslavia.. "Bratstvo i jedinstvo" Brotherhood and Unity was motto of one and all..
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: jinjifliaktor on January 14, 2012, 01:52:40 pm
niko is a serb, i'm bulgarian and kosovo is serbia


WIN
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 14, 2012, 02:10:03 pm
niko is a serb, i'm bulgarian and kosovo is serbia


WIN
Lol'd and supported.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Get Murked on January 14, 2012, 02:50:09 pm
niko is a serb, i'm bulgarian and kosovo is serbia


WIN
No facts given, argument invalid.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 14, 2012, 03:17:25 pm
No facts given, argument invalid.
There are no facts needed if he speaks the truth.  ;)
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Rick. on January 14, 2012, 03:55:36 pm
There are no facts needed if he speaks the truth.  ;)

There is no facts when useless ignorant kids like you and him speak.

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Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 14, 2012, 10:16:23 pm
these "proud nationalistic serbs" make me laugh so hard while every1 knows in real life they're just kids who don't even have ballhair  :lol:

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Well age doesn't matter if you havee knowladge sir. And you are not even funny.
Title: Re: Gta IV-Niko is serb
Post by: Kojak on January 14, 2012, 10:53:52 pm
The discussion now appears over and has turned into squabbling, and that's the end of that.
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