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Title: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on January 12, 2012, 07:04:56 pm
Victoria II

Victoria II is a grand strategy wargame by Paradox Interactive, sequel to 2003's Victoria.
Like its predecessor, Victoria II allows for the player to take control of and manage a 19th century nation-state including its political, diplomatic, economic, military, and technological aspects.

Victoria 2 Teaser Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGDMgNJbaGQ#ws)

So. Here goes nothing. For this game after some 5 minute thinking of which country to pick I made a decision and picked

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Geographical situation of Argentina in 1836

(http://i44.tinypic.com/upy6s.jpg)

So here we stand, chile to the west, Bolivia, Paraguay and Brazil to the North and Uruguay to the east also United Kingdom is present with all its might on the Falkland island.
Now what would be the goal to set? I think conquering the whole South America would be quite good goal to reach to. Make the whole continent speak Spanish and yes that means also all those pesky Brazilians. Also when I still got time and the power it would also be great to try and push on also to Central America and why not even Mexico. All the children of Spain shall be united under one flag- Argentinian flag!.

So lets, get started. First 10 years:


Geographical situation of Argentina in 1845

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So first thing in 1836 what I had in mind was that I have to get control of the whole southern part of South America, and there was only one other country contesting for those territories, and that was Chile.

I was in luck as on the road I got two allies!

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So the war was fully on. With Argentina, Peru and Paraguay vs Chile. It seemed like a walk in the park, it actually proved to be even simpler, as the Chile troops swallowed my baits by crushing my little forces, while other troops were occupying its land:

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but it didn't help it to prevent the end result. Argentina got two of the chile regions.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2uxuydu.png)

Soon after the successful war with Chile Argentina had a incident with Bolivia:

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This had to go not unpunished and Peru agreed with me. So on October 24 1839

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And after 2 years of war they gave in

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Other news on the South America was, that between the wars of Chile and Bolivia Brazil wasn't inactive either as it had 2 wars. One against Paraguay and another one against Bolivia.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Squeak on January 12, 2012, 08:24:51 pm
why not even Mexico.
You're gonna mess with the United States' money, and they will hand you an ass whoopin' defined by the Roosevelt Corollary.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Eagle on January 12, 2012, 08:57:34 pm
Good game is good game, I'm sometimes playing Europa Universalis 3, next one will be either HoI 3 or Victoria 2, not sure yet, but really good game.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on January 12, 2012, 09:21:33 pm
1845 - 1856

When I started at 1845 the country had expanded a lot. The population grew from only 237 000 adult men in 1836 to 375 000 adult men in 1845. Although the country had more men economically it was pretty much disaster. All the classes of the society were highly taxed, military under fed and country itself without any reserves. It was sure that something had to be done.
President did try to encourage more people to become factory workers, but that didnt help and it seemed that it wasnt going to end well at all. only upside was that in times the world had forgotten the war crimes against Chile 10 years ago. But Argentina didn't and it seemed a perfect time to expand the country. And so it was in 1850 another war broke loose.

And even though our great empire lost 2 battles out of 3. The last battle was the one that count and annihilated the whole chile army. After which the poor country did not have any options to surrender and accept annexation.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/21d2at2.png)

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Now what annexing chile did was that I got hold of its gold mines! As well was its economy built up top-notch. So that did wonders for my own economy. First time I could finally lower taxes to more reasonable levels as well feed my soldiers and make profit. Now what is left to do for right now is to start thinking about expanding again.

Geographical situation of Argentina in 1856

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Beside myself there was 2 wars worth mentioning here. First one was 2nd war of Brazil against Bolivia which shows that my greatest threat on the continent is not sitting on his ass either and it even seems that he is trying to block me out so I couldn't expand North. Another one was that Ecuador with its dumb mind tried to take on both Peru and Colombia and end up getting beaten itself and losing territories to Colombia.

You're gonna mess with the United States' money, and they will hand you an ass whoopin' defined by the Roosevelt Corollary.
Well yeah maybe as USA is always fighting with Mexico right now over Texas. So by the time I get there, who knows whats the situation.

Good game is good game, I'm sometimes playing Europa Universalis 3, next one will be either HoI 3 or Victoria 2, not sure yet, but really good game.

Theres already EU 3 topic in Argonath somewhere, with my AAR.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Orel on January 12, 2012, 09:27:49 pm
Didn't like the game.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: ElMartu on January 12, 2012, 09:41:05 pm
JUBIN YOU'RE MY HERO

I'm so addicted to this game. I'm playing Argentina too, although I think I have way more than a reason than you to play the country. :D

I'm playing with the Pop Demand Mod that adds a couple historical decisions and what not for nations. This was my first serious game after grasping the concepts of Victoria, and I think I did nicely.

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/649876689652921486/48C3FFC01F6A57053E77A5C85ABA849740951237/)
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on January 13, 2012, 12:56:18 pm
1856 - 1885

This era of the history of the Argentinian people will be remembered as the waiting period. So what was going on during this 30 year period.

The first incident was in 1861, when Brazil arrested another our citizen and even though the might of our people had grew tremendously over the past years, we still would not be able to take Brazil on our own and on the down side the enemy was also allied with the French so it would have been a suicide:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/25f11c2.png)

Nevertheless one war was still to come. As we left the 1856 it was clear that Brazil was trying to block us to expand further into North, but I was just not going to let that happen. That meant that what was left of Bolivia had to be united under Argentinian flag.

And so it was that in 1867 war started. this time it was quick and almost painless for both of the countries, except for the men who died in battle of course. The war was over in 1868.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/65516o.png)

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Nine years passed, but then it was time for another conflict. This time the victim was former ally Peru, who betrayed Argentina in a war against the Chile annexation. So in 1877 it began. With Argentinian troops tactically again sacrificing themselves for the greater good - for the Empire!!!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/35navl4.png)

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And the war ended with another glorious out maneuvering and the end result of acquiring some land from Peru ( which used to be Bolivian).

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Geographical situation of Argentina in 1885

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JUBIN YOU'RE MY HERO

I'm so addicted to this game. I'm playing Argentina too, although I think I have way more than a reason than you to play the country. :D

Kinda hard to play Vicki as Estonia. When it comes to EU, Vicki or HOI I usually love to play everything else but superpowers.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 13, 2012, 01:16:23 pm
I played a game that looks like this,but you couldn't select your country,you could just change great wars. with Alexandr The Great,Napoleon,World war 2,cold war,etc..
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Wolfe on January 13, 2012, 11:30:01 pm
Alright, now I have the play this fucking game and Take everything as Brazil.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Squeak on January 14, 2012, 12:35:22 am
I played a game that looks like this,but you couldn't select your country,you could just change great wars. with Alexandr The Great,Napoleon,World war 2,cold war,etc..
Check out Europa Universalis, it's really great. Currently playing as the Byzantine Empire.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: JayL on January 14, 2012, 01:00:58 am
Make the whole continent speak Spanish and yes that means also all those pesky Brazilians.
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Sounds like an interesting game, I might get it.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 14, 2012, 01:05:06 am
Good game but many better games of the same genre on steam for much cheaper. If this game was a lower price I think it would do much better.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Get Murked on January 14, 2012, 01:29:57 am
Need to try this.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Stefanrsb on January 14, 2012, 01:52:47 pm
Check out Europa Universalis, it's really great. Currently playing as the Byzantine Empire.
Thanks for recommendation.. Now I will play 10 games ffs.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: ElMartu on January 14, 2012, 02:15:17 pm
Squeak & Jubin and whoever the fuck plays EU3, you really need to add me to Steam and hit up some games.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Squeak on January 14, 2012, 05:34:00 pm
Squeak & Jubin and whoever the f**k plays EU3, you really need to add me to Steam and hit up some games.
I've had to restart my game more than ten times. :(
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Eagle on January 18, 2012, 08:08:44 pm
Prefer Empire total war instead.

2 very different games.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Oliver_Daniels on January 18, 2012, 11:01:14 pm
Why do I have so much money as Germany? I get like 10k a day and have nothing to do with my 60 millions. Halp.

Oh and I also have 500 regiments and 20 million people. They don't want my money either.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on January 19, 2012, 01:30:11 pm
Why do I have so much money as Germany? I get like 10k a day and have nothing to do with my 60 millions. Halp.

Oh and I also have 500 regiments and 20 million people. They don't want my money either.
Ah the sarcasm. Also what year, pictures... theres plenty to do.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: JayL on January 19, 2012, 01:58:02 pm
Been playing this game with a certain Argentine mushroom and I have to say it is a good game. Been competing with Chile on who's the South American leader.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on January 19, 2012, 04:51:14 pm
Been playing this game with a certain Argentine mushroom and I have to say it is a good game. Been competing with Chile on who's the South American leader.
Better get Chile pretty quick or they grow too strong, especially if you don't have a great big brother to help you.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: ElMartu on January 19, 2012, 05:22:44 pm
Except USA is the third nation in the world and is pretty much Brazil's big brother.

But USA is getting boring, way too easy...
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Oliver_Daniels on January 19, 2012, 06:32:03 pm
I'm playing the Age of Colonialism mod, formed Germany in the 1850s, it's 1875 now. I took Mesopotamia from the turks in 1862 and made them release Bulgaria, then spent the next 12 years dismantling the Austrian empire. Lots of new countries in Europe now, with Romania and Czechoslovakia being new secondary powers and quickly climbing up to great power status.

I get 25k a day and can mobilise 550 regiments with my strongest rival France being able to mobilise only 300. Life's good, but I still have WW1 to look forward to (at least I hope so, seeing as its instigator has been dismantled) so it's not going to get boring for a while.
My industrial score is 220 (The AoC mod cranks the industrial score down by quite a bit so no more Great Britain having 10k industrial score) and climbling extremely quickly with me having made the mesopotamian area into states with a combined populace of 3 million.

Current great powers, listed by ranking:

The United Kingdom
Germany
The United States of America
France
The Russian Empire
Mexico (they're the third most industrialised nation in the world with an industrial score of 150)
Japan (became a great power in the 1850s, fourth most industrialised nation but has literally no prestige, so they might lose their great power status)
Sardinia-Piedmont  (they just became a great power, I expect to see Italy in the 1880s)

Secondary powers, listed randomly from memory:

Belgium
Netherlands
Czehoslovakia
Romania
Tuscany
Sweden
Norway
Finland

Most of them (i.e. the scandinavian nations) only have that status due to a high prestige score.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on January 21, 2012, 10:19:13 pm
Man I was ruined by Victoria: revolution. From that I had the impression that Laissez-faire was pretty much a foundation of a good thriving economy till I did a game with United States of Central America, where I tested controlling he whole economy myself and there, without any expansion whatsoever by early 1900s I became a Great Power solely thanks to my industry. So yeah comes out capitalists are idiots.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: ElMartu on January 21, 2012, 10:53:37 pm
Yeah, liberals are pretty much scum... Useless Explosive/Ammunition factories everywhere. The game sort of forces you to play with the mindset most European goverments had at that point.

Although as a strong nation, staying conservative usually won't do much harm. As UPCA though, yeah, being reactionary or socialist is pretty much a must.
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: JayL on February 19, 2012, 03:59:38 pm
Ahaha, what a fun game.

I chose Brazil and played it. Everything went well, had a nice progress in technology and education as well as income. Army was pretty big though I had no navy. Problem was that Craftsmen were taking long to grow. I had atleast 6 factories in each state and the craftsment count was only 60k.

Then a communist revolt started. My army could beat it but I decided to do nothing and see what'd turn out. And the outcome was beautiful. I got a boom of craftsmen and now my industries are making very nice income. Though it was funny because Ecuador and Colombia declared war on me as soon as the revolt was finished, but with help of Venezuela I kicked them out.

It's 1920 now and nor World War I neither Russian Revolution took place; Brazil was the first communist state in the world. :D
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on February 20, 2012, 03:03:54 pm
Then a communist revolt started. My army could beat it but I decided to do nothing and see what'd turn out. And the outcome was beautiful. I got a boom of craftsmen and now my industries are making very nice income. Though it was funny because Ecuador and Colombia declared war on me as soon as the revolt was finished, but with help of Venezuela I kicked them out.

Oh how predictable of you :D
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: JayL on February 29, 2012, 02:40:20 am
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/V2_33.bmp)
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Mario_Rinna on February 29, 2012, 03:22:20 am
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48339001/ObamaStalin.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: ElMartu on March 02, 2012, 01:45:57 am
man i wanna play multiplayer real bad
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: JayL on April 05, 2012, 06:01:22 am
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/v2_102.png)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/v2_117.png)
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: Jubin on April 05, 2012, 07:18:27 pm
images
Map of your territories?
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: ElMartu on April 08, 2012, 09:46:37 pm
Pretty sure he didn't conquer anything

and fuck man i only got to 10k score as Germany by 1922
Title: Re: Victoria II
Post by: JayL on April 08, 2012, 10:01:13 pm
Pretty much yes. What I had was Russian Empire's land + colonised Siberia + Alaska and Austrian West Galicia
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