Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP General => Topic started by: Lazlow on February 06, 2012, 04:20:02 pm
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Do YOU use pude.tk? OFCOURSE YOU DO!! You like it, dont you? we all do.. But I see a problem with that...
Before, when you wanted to know whos online, you had to join the game, and be dissapointed that there is only 0 or 1 player online or whatever.. But that adds you to the player list!!
What WE do now? Most of us!, now we simply check it online! If there is no player, or just few, we dont come.. but if WE (4 players?) would go manualy to the game and check it for ourselves? That would add 4 more players to whatever the original was!!! That makes us stay there for a fun time, which brings more!!!
Pude.tk is a Uninviting System!!! It is very useful tool to use, but the outcome is that we get less players!!!
[You can edit your vote, guests can vote too]
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I don't really think it's about that..
Before, when people didn't know about that playerlist and the server wasn't on the list, it was a same thing..
SO i say it's about the problem with serverlist, not the playerlist.
If management will ask me to shut it down, i can do it..
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What does Argonath players or A-Team have to do with this?
If you think it shouldn't be there, simply talk to the one who made it, Pude.
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What does Argonath players or A-Team have to do with this?
If you think it shouldn't be there, simply talk to the one who made it, Pude.
We all use it.. I want to see if majority is selfish bastards (sorry for cruel words), or caring for getting more players to the server.. pude.tk corrupted me, and I have a feeling it corrupted few admins and developers too.. :/ If manager dont see enough players, they dont come for paydays or events.. That is my guess..
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You really know how to provoke people
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Let us clarify, the reason of the low amount of players is mainly the server list problem. We cannot clearly state that pude.tk is or is not affecting that. I am more like 50/50, it might be the reason for changing your mind to come IG or vise versa, it might make you come IG (decent amount of players).
So to conclude my opinion is that it won't really make the things better. Leave it as it is.
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Let us clarify, the reason of the low amount of players is mainly the server list problem. We cannot clearly state that pude.tk is or is not affecting that. I am more like 50/50, it might be the reason for changing your mind to come IG or vise versa, it might make you come IG (decent amount of players).
So to conclude my opinion is that it won't really make the things better. Leave it as it is.
For starters, I believe it made things worse.. less players pop in for a visit.. thats a FACT that you are looking for.
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That might be (and it is more obvious) due to the server list problem, it cannot be proven.
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I will go straight to the point, Pude.tk has nothing to do with the low player-count.
We had over 5 players nearly 24 hours a day until the server-list issue occurred, if managers had thought the pude.tk system was costing us players they would have intervened already.
Therefore there is no need or reason to remove the pude.tk system, sure if you see the player-count is low and you don't join, you would do exactly the same thing if you had to join the server and there were no players online.
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I will go straight to the point, Pude.tk has nothing to do with the low player-count.
We had over 5 players nearly 24 hours a day until the server-list issue occurred, if managers had thought the pude.tk system was costing us players they would have intervened already.
Therefore there is no need or reason to remove the pude.tk system, sure if you see the player-count is low and you don't join, you would do exactly the same thing if you had to join the server and there were no players online.
But without pude.tk, there would be only 1 way to find out.. by puting yourself on that list..
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Even if there was only the one way to check, by going in-game. Many players would still quit as soon as they see it is empty.
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It's not about the list.. it's about the will to stay and wait. I personally didn't even know for what is pude.tk and I didn't even use it. Don't know if anybody of players that are good with me use that site or whatever.
Just get in and wait. Patient is the key [:
And btw.. the site surely clearly has no effect on amount of players on server. If big percent of players really follow that site to decide will he enter or not.. then we would have at least 20 players ( Regular players ) on server right now.
Judge for yourself
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It's not about the list.. it's about the will to stay and wait. I personally didn't even know for what is pude.tk and I didn't even use it. Don't know if anybody of players that are good with me use that site or whatever.
Just get in and wait. Patient is the key [:
And btw.. the site surely clearly has no effect on amount of players on server. If big percent of players really follow that site to decide will he enter or not.. then we would have at least 20 players ( Regular players ) on server right now.
Judge for yourself
I use it daily :P It is very useful site ;)
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It just comes down on one thing: If you do not like it, just don't use it. If you do use it, then why are you coming to this topic?
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I use it daily :P It is very useful site ;)
me too :cool:
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I think theres truth in what Lazlow is saying but nevertheless I want it to be there, it's a useful tool. I wouldnt be so sure that if the player who only drops by to see how many players are in the server, would actually stay in the server, just because he is already connected. If player purpose is to find out how many players are playing and then choose if he wants to stay on server then he will probably do it, the method is irrelevant. And that is DEFINITELY not the reason server is empty. Back then the server had same issue and the pude.tk who's online script didnt exist at that time (according to me atleast) and the server was still empty! So it is the "server doesnt appear in server list" issue and not the "how many players are online" issue why the server is empty. Ofc it's logical that people dont want to join into empty server, but the reason why server is empty is server list issue. Pude.tk is even good in that case, so people who assume the server is empty cause its not on list, can check if it really is, and if it isnt then they will join. Its really with two ends.
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As long this website,Dont affect server in a bad Way, wich it dosen't Do atm. I would keep it running.
And we should all be thanksfoul to pude,that run this for us. And to blame this side as reason that People dont join is a excuse. People that enjoy game, and feel the passsion of iv, join anyway even if Its 0 players and wait for more. Players that refuse to play couse of low players dont enjoy the game ;)
Serverlist issue Will be solved, Its just a more bigger and harder issue than we thougt.
So just be patient, and ye server is still there so play on. ;)
(Sended from my HTC, sorry for bad grammar)
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[FACT] Back in the days.. When the new T2 or something got released, we werent on the list either... When pude.tk did not existed, (talking from experience) players joined, and saw nothing online.. what they did, is pause the game, and minimaize it.. instead of turning it off and checking again later.. Thus him adding to the list.
Someone else checks the server in same way, he already sees 1 there, trys to communicate with him, but fails.. he also does same thing, or just drive around till he comes back from "afk". Thus we now have 2 players.. whoever is 3rd to come for a visit, the server has enogh players to have some fun. :)
Now.. Its obvious that we lack players due to server list.. that is maybe 90% of why.. But we are getting less players online than we used to in the old days.. due to us being spoiled by this VERY LOVELY, USEFUL website.. I hope that you see, im talking to old players and developers, that this is a problem.. New guys who joined argonath ivmp wouldnt know what Im comparing..
There are few players like Mihail.. who is absoluteley bored to death, and he joined the server, and waits for others to come by.. rare to find players like him, but good job! we need more like him!!! Instead of checking the website and not coming..
I propose: Atleast remove pude.tk until we get back on the list.. For them extra fake-afk players, to be the server "starters".
And also, would affect admins and managers too. :)
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and what the problem here? if u dont like it dont use it.
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and what the problem here? if u dont like it dont use it.
Please read before replying. :)
And for the record.. I use the website myself 100 times a day.. So i dont have to go to the server ^^
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When we weren't on the list before, pude.tk didn't exist but there was another website made by AlexW called ivmp.argonathrpg.eu
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When we weren't on the list before, pude.tk didn't exist but there was another website made by AlexW called ivmp.argonathrpg.eu
Really? thats odd.. I believe nobody knew about it :) Atleast I didnt.. nor the other afkers..
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Pude.tk isn't the only way to check the current amount of members online. There are also signatures for it. :) pude.tk is useful to use.
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Firstly i don't see how pude.tk corrupted the players or the admins, true Argonathians know the true spirit of Argonath, from your words before ("Managers won't come so often therefor no paydays") that makes you look like you only care about virtual money after all. That's not how i think.
Secondly, players and myself will play the server if they want to anyway, new players don't even visit the forum regularly. Probably they don't know about the existence of pude.tk what makes your theory not possibe.
Thridly, my vote is negative. I find pude.tk a good way to check the current ammount of players online and if you can't be IG for longer and you need to talk with someone, you'll see it on pude.tk and then go IG just for such reason. There are plenty of ways to use pude.tk...
Don't take this as a provocation but from the way you talked before and the words you used looks like you were provoking/begging for money as Batta as stated.
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Firstly i don't see how pude.tk corrupted the players or the admins, true Argonathians know the true spirit of Argonath, from your words before ("Managers won't come so often therefor no paydays") that makes you look like you only care about virtual money after all. That's not how i think.
Secondly, players and myself will play the server if they want to anyway, new players don't even visit the forum regularly. Probably they don't know about the existence of pude.tk what makes your theory not possibe.
Thridly, my vote is negative. I find pude.tk a good way to check the current ammount of players online and if you can't be IG for longer and you need to talk with someone, you'll see it on pude.tk and then go IG just for such reason. There are plenty of ways to use pude.tk...
Don't take this as a provocation but from the way you talked before and the words you used looks like you were provoking/begging for money as Batta as stated.
Why do you always use colors so dark for your replies?
Makes me depressed :cry:
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Lol pude.tk I have it on bookmarks
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Really? thats odd.. I believe nobody knew about it :) Atleast I didnt.. nor the other afkers..
Everyone active at that time, Knowed about that Page..
However Just about the Subject In Discussion, wasen't it you that suggested the Outgame chat, and now you Blame this side to take away players, and your outgame chat wouldn't?. I would say this side Is good as long it Runs!. :)
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Everyone active at that time, Knowed about that Page..
However Just about the Subject In Discussion, wasen't it you that suggested the Outgame chat, and now you Blame this side to take away players, and your outgame chat wouldn't?. I would say this side Is good as long it Runs!. :)
your completely right Tand. :) I proposed the chat when we had no issues with being on server list... when we often had 32/32.. But at this drastic times we need drastic messures.. we need to do our best to not let ivmp go "sad"... Already I know few great players who just dont come no more.. they switched to samp istead.. And speaking of the devil.. I know who changed their ways to different games... (Including me)
Hopefully they will come back when we server list is solved.. but now.. lets not lose any more great players, right? :/
Post Merge: February 09, 2012, 09:27:12 am
Well.. we back on server list.. Thats great!
I guess this topic can be locked.. I hope you guys see how I see, how this great tool uninvites players to server. :)
Have fun and stay regular! :cool:
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