Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: HB_ on February 15, 2012, 07:45:18 pm
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I think it would be good if there was a command, something like /bu, to show your current location to other cops. When you need backup, you currently need to type it out on /r, and in a chase this is time consuming.
If we had a command like /bu, we could have a message being displayed to all cops.. Something like:
HB_ requested assistance at Downtown Broker!
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I think that cmd is not necessary because, while doing a patrol you should do it in pairs so that one drive the car while other one can focus on informing rest of units. Even if you are patrolling alone, there is always time to write 10-12. ^^
RP :3
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People.. Less commands, more text, that what is RP, I expect the next suggestion /hi to say hi to others. :(
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Teamwork teamwork and teamwork :) your partner should handle the radio and even if you are alone, face the danger like a real cop would ^^
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Like Mihail said, there are short police radio codes. You can check them out at ARPD forums (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php) if you are interested in them.
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Get a patrol partner, so while are you u driving he can call for backup/tell your current location :)
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Ge a partner, or be prepared for epic typos when you ask for backup really quickly.
If I'm by myself its usually; /r HAAAALP
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Supported. This was in MTA VC and was useful there.. I don't see why it is not supported. It is a script that is useful, and last I checked chasing someone in a car isn't RP.
An example of /hi would say hi in RP, while /bu (as shown on the Argonath MTA VC server) is something to help other cops see someone needs help without losing someone in a chase to slow down and type "NEED BACKUP SUSPECT [ID] GOING [THIS WAY] AT [AREA]".
Just my opinion, though. :razz:
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Text pwns commands.
Useless IMO, get a partner or learn to type fast :P
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Useless IMO, get a partner or learn to type fast :P
I wouldnt say it's useless. Its a good idea, but cops already have short radio codes, which take about same amount of time to type.
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That's different. Codes are made to be short ^^
Wrong answer, thought I was in another topic xD
Calling for backup is kinda short. And even if you're being shot at, you should still have time.
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Most cops are not familiar with radio codes (including me, but I'm willing to learn them). I do not see however why we can't have /bu, and already have /m1, /m2 and /m3. Exact same thing.
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LCPD teamspeak channel is online 24/7 for a reason.
I can feel that sooner or later cops will be asking us programmers to create a suspect /kill command.
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LCPD teamspeak channel is online 24/7 for a reason.
I can feel that sooner or later cops will be asking us programmers to create a suspect /kill command.
No-one uses it.
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No-one uses it.
He means it's there to be used, and it would solve the problem ^^
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He means it's there to be used, and it would solve the problem ^^
It would not solve the problem, because 9 out of 10 cops are freecops, and they are not as active in a team as some others. They do their things induvidual, and we can't reach them through TeamSpeak. It would be good if we just had a command that quickly displayed the location.
Besides, you can be a good cop, but perhaps you do not know the locations. If the backup command contains the location, you do not have to worry about that.
Teamwork in the LCPD is pretty important if you ask me, and this is just a small and nice addition to the system that could make it better.
Besides that, we already have /m1, /m2 and /m3. These are also there to make chasing easier, so why not have /bu?
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You can use ctrl+t if you want to know your location quickly
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TBH if you even know the location, by the time you write /r 10-12 Downtown, Dukes the suspect would have gotten away....
Seconds count when you are a cop...
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teamwork.
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teamwork.
It would not solve the problem, because 9 out of 10 cops are freecops, and they are not as active in a team as some others. They do their things induvidual, and we can't reach them through TeamSpeak.
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well, scripts wouldn't improve the things, only we can improve them. Explain 'em how to team play. :)
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well, scripts wouldn't improve the things, only we can improve them. Explain 'em how to team play. :)
It would be easier to teach my dog how to poledance than to try and persuade the newbies to co-operate XD
(I`m not actually joking)
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Yeah, I know that you are not joking, but.. either way I wouldn't like to see that cmd. :)
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This has a no from my side, more RP people, and there is L.C.P.D. codes meaning exacly the same already so i don't see why we should have a scripted command if we can RP it easy and fast.
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If you guys are so against it I think you should come up with an alternative suggestion that should make the teamwork better.. Because right now, it lacks.
Teaching the freecops is a suggestion, but who will do that? And what if the 'teachers' are not online?
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teaching is not a one-time period, it has to be and IS.. continuous and everybody who know how you should act.. should participate in educating newcomers ;3
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Newcomers rarely listen to what the average argonathian (like me) who hasn`t got an LCPD or an FBI rank or an admin rank......
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Teaching the freecops is a suggestion, but who will do that? And what if the 'teachers' are not online?
Why dont you and every other Argonath regular do that ? It should be taken for granted actually.
Newcomers rarely listen to what the average argonathian (like me) who hasn`t got an LCPD or an FBI rank or an admin rank......
Try a different approach, instead of showing them what they did wrong, show them how they can do better so they would realize their mistakes, instead of pointing flaws, complimate them for something good, so they feel the urge of being the best and wanting to become better. But thats just my opinion :)
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Well said ^^
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I come there to play. Teaching is not an option, 9 out of 10 people do not listen, and 9 out of 10 people on Argonath do not have the patience to explain others. If I am in a chase, I simply do not have time to tutor other cops. If I DO have time, the player won't listen. It is a waste of time to teach other cops how everything should be done, because they keep making the mistakes even if you have teached them.
However, this is not a discussion that belongs in this thread. The idea behind my suggestion is that teamwork will improve. Just teaching others how to work in a team is not working out, because there is a lack of teamwork right now like I said before.. We need to look for alternative methods to make players able to work in and as a team.
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Make a difference :)
And as you all know, some percent of players will rarely be a teamwork player because they are only after the money, fast cars and "prestige". ^^
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I come there to play. Teaching is not an option, 9 out of 10 people do not listen, and 9 out of 10 people on Argonath do not have the patience to explain others...
Who else should make a difference if not the players themselves ? Admins, Moderators, Managers, commands ? I m just little confused, why you think that a command for calling backup improves teamwork ? Maybe I have misunderstood you, i dont know.
...If I DO have time, the player won't listen. It is a waste of time to teach other cops how everything should be done, because they keep making the mistakes even if you have teached them....
9 out of 10 people do not listen
If you reach every 10th player then you are already making a difference. If someone else is also doing it then 2 people have been led to "right" way. I understand that not everyone want to spend time on making things better and teaching others. Let me tell you guys, some time ago (not that long actually) cops in the server even worse. They abused their commands, broke laws/rules, no RP. But now there are many cops who can RP, who dont abuse and are genuinely good cops. Things are improving, it just takes time (and effort). This command would not improve teamwork, cause even if its there then what should the players do with that location that is given to them in radio ? They would still most probably have to press ESC and check the map, cause I doubt they have learned the street names by their heart.
And as you all know, some percent of players will rarely be a teamwork player because they are only after the money, fast cars and "prestige". ^^
You are probably right, but this just means these players do not want to play as team so it's best to leave them alone. They will reach a point where money doesnt matter to them anymore and thats the breaking point where you can see players are starting to give something back. I think we just have to wait till everyone purse is full of money and then we can see some changes :)
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Who else should make a difference if not the players themselves ? Admins, Moderators, Managers, commands ? I m just little confused, why you think that a command for calling backup improves teamwork ? Maybe I have misunderstood you, i dont know.
Commands, tutorials, and proper information. This is the way people learn things. That is the main goal of tutorials and guides, and there's so many of them. You did get my point right, /bu is suggested to make teamwork better. It saves alot of time typing out your backup request (no matter if your request contains 10 codes, locations or anything else.. any message that has to be typed in /r takes time), and other players know that you need help within a second. Other cops are notified about the backup, and that it is legitimate.. And there's a higher chance they will be responding to the backup call. If you'd type it out in /r, it is not always trustable. Sometimes a player screams for help in the radio while it was not supposed for the radio. Just an example. I could name others at another time I guess.
If you reach every 10th player then you are already making a difference. If someone else is also doing it then 2 people have been led to "right" way. I understand that not everyone want to spend time on making things better and teaching others. Let me tell you guys, some time ago (not that long actually) cops in the server even worse. They abused their commands, broke laws/rules, no RP. But now there are many cops who can RP, who dont abuse and are genuinely good cops. Things are improving, it just takes time (and effort). This command would not improve teamwork, cause even if its there then what should the players do with that location that is given to them in radio ? They would still most probably have to press ESC and check the map, cause I doubt they have learned the street names by their heart.
IF we reach the 10th player, indeed. Like I said, 9 out of 10 professional cops on the server do not even reach 5, because they either crash, leave or go off duty. Tutoring step by step is a very hard process, takes too much time and has a small effect. However, explaining things and having information commands available will certainly help the case. As I said above, this command DOES improve teamwork.
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This is a game on which we spend time. Actually, it's a game mode that supports innovative behaviour with lots of imagination.. as that, it should remain as simple as it can be without help from scripts. :)
I didn't get that in the beginning, but now.. it's more clearly to me :3
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Make a difference :)
And as you all know, some percent of players will rarely be a teamwork player because they are only after the money, fast cars and "prestige". ^^
This is true as it is hard to work in a team bacause, as we all know, the cop job is (one of) the best paid jobs and most people become a cop for money.
And actually since I`m a bit of a hipster and I don`t like the fast expensive cars, because they are more common than any normal car ( Like my stratum or chavos) which makes it worthless in my eyes...
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That's why I would like someone to suggest that "exotic" cars are at least twice expensive than now. :3
Something like 300k for Infernus, like 300 for Lamborgihini.. but, I know that wouldn't ever be accepted so I just mumble when I see a guy with 5+ cars ^^
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This is a game on which we spend time. Actually, it's a game mode that supports innovative behaviour with lots of imagination.. as that, it should remain as simple as it can be without help from scripts. :)
I didn't get that in the beginning, but now.. it's more clearly to me :3
Time that we almost never have when in a chase. Having the /bu command available will surely make more time available for more useful things.
If /bu is not going to be added, I think the thought of /m1, /m2 and /m3 has to be rethought aswell. Perhaps we should remove those. I mean, what's the point of having /m1-/m3 when we can type it all out like the backup calls? It is the exact same thing and I have heard no-one talking about this point.
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/m1-/m3 are much longer than 'Backup at Downtown!'. I don't know, I wouldn't be happy to see this command in game, I can't say why..maybe because cop duty is already filled with commands that make this job easier.