P.S. your missing some more names or is it just me?
on my crime assessment i merely acted on self defense so i shouldn't be convicted of homicide. and further more i merely stepped in the building confused wondering why everyone was mostly behind the desk.
I, Kessu from Eighth Avenue Furies (no current address or mailbox), got killed in an intensive chase after the situation.
I was shot down, wounded badly by [WS]Legend himself and finished off by an freelance officer whose name I cannot recall. There were also other officers and [MoD]ferrari32 to witness my death (that sounds stupid to write).
Thank you.
The prosecution asserts that Legend was idle at the time of the incident, so this couldn't have happened.Legend indeed was idle when we attacked the police station. I was one of the few who got away from there alive (read; not counting the insane numbers of dead officers).
Additionally, we request $3,000,000 in total punitive damages, roughly $428,571 per individual, given the collective wealth of those involved.Three Million Argonath Dollar? This is pathetically exaggerated as no damage costs round to this, defiantly considering only one building is involved. You could rebuild several skyscrapers around the Downtown district with such amount of money.
EDIT: Also, Rapture said himself that he was killed by a random DMing "officer." However, I've heard that the court doesn't accept rulebreaking as evidence, so it's possible that Rapture may continue to be listed as a defendant.
I would also point out that you have no knowledge of the current wealth of those involved. Judging by their clothes, I doubt they have much money at all. I investigated further by searching for the addresses of the defendants, and found that the majority are currently living in small flats in Downtown or have no listed address at all. I think the charges should be reconsidered, and made at a more realistic value, taking aboard the state of the individuals wealth.
Prior to your post, the punitive damages were lowered to $2,500,000 from $3,000,000. However, I would like to point out you have no knowledge on my knowledge of their wealth, as I have irrefutable proof that the defendants hold many (often expensive) properties and vehicles. This information has been taken from the city's public property and vehicle registration databases.
The total valuation of their assets is $2,720,025, not including any other money they may have in their accounts, or any financial aid they may receive from their crime families, or the income received from Brian's ammunation.
Nylez is not linked to this, so do not bring him in.
You seriously count my trashcan as valuable property?
Van is stol... borrowed from a friend who has now moved abroad. PCJ has always been mine. PnS is EAF property and I only have the name in the paper due to legal problems that would occur if someone had two businesses in Vice City.
Which means all I own is the top-class hyperbike that I am so freaking good with, making my wealth around one hundred thousand dollars.
I own no clothes what so ever, I can barely stay alive eating what people throw in the trashcan.. You really need to rethink about your request of payment, or divide it according to the wealth of the said people.
As I said, I am on negative in cash.
Also my death certificate, which has conveniently disappeared from Goverment's logs, proofs that I was indeed shot down by an LEO when I was already greatly wounded and would probably be dead anyways.
We do not believe it was prompted, either, and hold suspicions that it may be linked to a greater scheme - connected to a number of individuals and gangs/groups that operate in parts of the city, often associated with illegal activities.Then back it up with evidence.
We do not believe it was prompted, either, and hold suspicions that it may be linked to a greater scheme - connected to a number of individuals and gangs/groups that operate in parts of the city, often associated with illegal activities.
Then back it up with evidence.
Van is stol... borrowed from a friend who has now moved abroad.It's still an asset which you own.
PCJ has always been mine. PnS is EAF property and I only have the name in the paper due to legal problems that would occur if someone had two businesses in Vice City.
EDIT: Also, there have been investigations into the criminal activities of EAF and DC, not available to public view, which would affirm similar incidents. Does anyone remember the El Guerillas riots?
It's still an asset which you own.Some, or most of EAF are not part of El Guerrillas. I was the one to .. negotiate five of them off the streets.
So you assert that the Eighth Avenue Furies, by far the wealthiest crime syndicate in Vice City, which you confirm you're a member of, would offer you no financial aid at all?
EDIT: Also, there have been investigations into the criminal activities of EAF and DC, not available to public view, which would affirm similar incidents. Does anyone remember the El Guerillas riots?
Unless you have proofs to back up the criminal activity, along with "similar situations" accusations, they are irrelevant.
I think it would depend what, if any of those (if valid) are relevant to this case?The sniping was continuous events of this "break in and locking up VCPD". Loose ends got cut out. Only witness you have is officer STALKER whose mental well being is not that good (maybe). He may be sided with the Goverment due to other court case, making him an invalid witness, sort of.
I must say that I was not involved in the incident itself (being present in the building as an idle), and know of it through evidence and the investigation itself.
Of course, the damage it has had on the department is not void, however.
Reality of the server means that we can die infinite amount of times, but we technically cannot sway the way in which continuity of roles work.
Witnesses that you have provided to this case are dead. All except one.
Officer [WS]Verz got sniped infront of VCPD HQ, proven by over a handfull of officers.
Officer [WS]Legend got sniped infront of VCPD HQ, proven by over a handfull of officers.
Officer Max.Cipone got killed in the locker room of VCPD HQ, proven by your now-dead witnesses.
Member of the SWAT team DaniGold got sniped infront of VCPD HQ, proven by over a handfull of officers.
Also I edit my statement just a little bit. It wasn't Legend who shot me down, I was killed by officer [D.R]Dany infront of VCPD HQ at the time of sniper shots. Also I was unarmed and standing still, ready to surrender. But hey, I guess I couldn't surrender considering I AM DEAD. Proven by many LEOs.
Klaus also saw atleast some of these kills that happened. (Of this, I am not sure of, you should ask him)
I think it would depend what, if any of those (if valid) are relevant to this case?
I must say that I was not involved in the incident itself (being present in the building as an idle), and know of it through evidence and the investigation itself.
Of course, the damage it has had on the department is not void, however.
Reality of the server means that we can die infinite amount of times, but we technically cannot sway the way in which continuity of roles work.
This couldn't have happened because Klaus was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. Legend was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. There were no snipers present, but I will acknowledge Max.Cipone's death as it was shown clearly in the video.
If any of this actually occurred, it wouldn't be continuous with this situation, but with another situation, such as the bankrob you say occurred after this one. Therefore, their witness reports would not be voided. Otherwise, it would be as if I said your comments were void because, say, you drowned a few minutes ago.
This couldn't have happened because Klaus was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. Legend was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. There were no snipers present, but I will acknowledge Max.Cipone's death as it was shown clearly in the video.
First there was this VCPD incident as Legend likes to call it :D
Then admins took action when a little hell broke loose on the server.
This is where the incident referred to here should've ended. Otherwise we're just counting everything that's ever happened on the server was one big incident. The award ceremony was an official server event, and any interference would've been a violation of server rules, hence void in court. Admin interference showed that there was rulebreaking involved, which is (apparently) void in court as well.
They snipers didn't interfere at the event, but before the event. Just wanted to make that clear.
The line should be drawn when admin interference began, because from that point on, everything is muddled.
It began even before we entered the PD.
If Legend and Klaus, the only admins online, had been inactive for the entire duration of that moment, how could they have interfered?
before we started
The line should be drawn when admin interference began, because from that point on, everything is muddled.I guess that is up to the judge to decide. Usually, the death of a player means the end of their role in that specific incident.
I guess that is up to the judge to decide. Usually, the death of a player means the end of his role in that specific incident.
we have no presiding judge.I'm guessing this case will be left for Chief Justice
The prosecution asserts that Legend was idle at the time of the incident, so this couldn't have happened.
(http://i.imgur.com/GMD2U.png)
Also im pretty sure it doesnt matter if you got killed afterwards , you were alive during this situation.
the death of a player means the end of their role in that specific incident.
If the verdict is finished and they're requested to pay the price, they will need to be chased down by police first IG, unless they decide to pay without a problem
The state may decide to remove assets and wealth, as well themselves.....but charging a deadmen is quite hard
The police don't have to chase anyone down without a very good reason.
Seeing as what has been done to our headquarters, however... it's not really acceptable.
*Brian stands upLogs are not valid evidence in court :P
Sorry for being late but i object any involvement of me in this case. I was there on this event but mainly dint do anything
As shown in the security tapes i did not attack or took part of this "invasion" i had a complainment about one of VCPDs applicants (STALKER) also shown in the security tapes. As i feel that people are going to ask why i was armed and how and if those weps were legal. i own the Ocean Beach Ammunation cause the previous owner dint got the job done the business itself isnt running well but im putting my hard work and effort in it to earn it and the Suer Stormeus loaned me the money to buy that business as seen in this officially contract http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=78697.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=78697.0). I sell my guns legal and i always arm myself to protect myself and if needed the others. also later the event i got heavely wounded and "Killed" by ARPD Cadet Max.Cipone by a misunderstanding that accourd at that event. and after my death i went to heaven (Quited the game). Before i end my Statement i have 1 demand i want the VCPD/ARPD to check the Wanted list/logs that accoured on that event before continuing.
*Brian ends his Statement and sits down
/me stands up with a scar.
I can't believe iam the only alive witness...
Anyways...this is my side of the story.
After a chase, I returned to the PD.I saw the PD full of cougars,civilians almost all of them armed.
I saw the [RO] going into a raging blood-lust.They tried killing the civilians and cougars though they failed as they got killed.
There was a sniper outside who tried to assasinate me. He had already killed my cop mates (Verz,Max).
The sniper was Brian.Me and the zombie Max went to investigate there.We saw Brian suiciding off the bridge.Then we returned to PD back again
Once I took cover from the sniper,the people inside the PD were turning into a frenzy against cops.
And then the ceremony part which isn't related to this story...
/me stands down and puts a bandage on the scar.
Objection; incompetent, hearsay.As said before, STALKER is not a valid witness. I can also back up these words if need be.
Secondly, walking into a federal building while holding a loaded firearm could be seen as a threat, and not only that, but as with Giant, you complied with the criminals as if they were allies, instead of "defending" yourself as you claim to have been doing. What you were doing was a criminal act.
As for the "expensive" punitive damages, these damages are not supposed to be within an affordable range. The fact of the matter is that their weapons were obtained, directly or indirectly, using money housed within the state's boundaries, or through businesses that they own within state boundaries and were purchased using the state's currency. Allowing them to keep the troves of money and assets that they still have would likely allow for subsequent invasions and other criminal acts by buying more weapons, funding operations, and harbouring other illegal activities.
** Senior Officer [WSt]Shadow stands up.
Excuse me, But I recall pretty good that few members of Downtown Cougars criminal clan, have attacked VC:PD.
You were not online during this whole incident, only after when the Snipers arrived.
You were not online during this whole incident, only after when the Snipers arrived.
The defense has moved to null a witness' testimony for not being present until after the snipers arrived. This proves that the incident ended when the snipers arrived. Therefore, many of the criminals being prosecuted, as well as key witnesses, are still alive in this context, and we plan to continue this case accordingly.Meant as in he was not online when we stormed in, but when our snipers started taking out the witnesses...
Meant as in he was not online when we stormed in, but when our snipers started taking out the witnesses...
Now I'm pretty sorry that I had to go off-duty, and couldn't help out. But I saw the criminal gangs breaking into VC:PD armed to teeth, which is proven as an official threat and may be sued by LEOs.He was not online at the time of our attack, but after it. Yet he claims he saw us entering. I find that interesting.
He was not online at the time of our attack, but after it. Yet he claims he saw us entering. I find that interesting.
our snipers started taking out the witnesses
He said he saw you attacking, which was probably reasonable given that there were snipers and other armed criminals present at the time.
But he didn't saw us storm in the VC:PD, as he claims.
He said he saw you attacking, which was probably reasonable given that there were snipers and other armed criminals present at the time. Also, your post would affirm that your activities were inarguably criminal.I died anyways, so it doesn't really matter what I say. You cannot make deadman pay :D
I died anyways, so it doesn't really matter what I say. You cannot make deadman pay :D
So basically, what's being said here, I can be a freakin Osam Bin Laden terrorist in the game, and then jump off the bridge, and I don't get punished by any way. Nice.you die = your previous RP background you have used before dying dies as well
i said earlier in my statement. i got killed by ARPD Cadet Max.Cipone, he headshotted me with a M4 while being undercover as a PIG Officer when the snipers arrived. i was 1 of them carrying a sniper and on that roof (This can be confirmed by the Max himself, Rap and the others who were behind me/on that roof). i left the game after getting killed and there for i CAN NOT be sued as i am a deadman.
Sir Brian Karlonto
guns are legal in Vice City. asfar as i walk with guns doenst mean im going to attack people/cops.
I have seen the evident video footage of the manhunt in the VCMP but this is certainly not on a level of terrorism or anything beyond.
first by suiciding of a bridge
second on that roof and that roof was connected to the RP
Objection, violation of server rules, suicide as a wanted criminal, returning after death. Statement not valid in court.you can't sue him then...if someone would try to deathmatch you and he'd fail and you would survive, you can't sue him for causing physical damage to your person..you'd report him instead.
Can a Judge step in and end this already?We have a judge too? :eek:
we're suing you for acts of domestic terrorism. The fact that you were punished for jumping off the bridge is great, but it's because you jumped off the bridge that you can't say you were really dead. If everyone did that, the legal system is useless.again i got KILLED by ARPD Cadet Max.Cipone.
Can a Judge step in and end this already?
We're not suing you for jumping off the bridge, we're suing you for acts of domestic terrorism. The fact that you were punished for jumping off the bridge is great, but it's because you jumped off the bridge that you can't say you were really dead. If everyone did that, the legal system is useless.looks like it's useless then, since you can't sue him if he died...
AFAIK, the only ones who evaded were Giant and Dodo. Everyone else died.That is from witness PoV :razz:
Well, then what is this mess about Brian still being involved?He committed suicide (which is against server rules and therefore can't be used as evidence), then confirms he returned after death, another violation of server rules, then claims he got killed by Max.Cipone. His testimony is contradictory and unreliable.
And why won't Giant, Dodo and the rest of the police stand up and speak up? It's a court case, not a dispute by choice to join.Giant and Dodo are aware of the case, but are not speaking as much as the other defendants involved.
Could atleast two people of each side (police / criminals) write up who was killed by whom (in their point of view) ?
He committed suicide (which is against server rules and therefore can't be used as evidence), then confirms he returned after death, another violation of server rules, then claims he got killed by Max.Cipone. His testimony is contradictory and unreliable.if Brian commited suicide+got punished + get killed upon re-entering, then you can't sue him.
Giant and Dodo are aware of the case, but are not speaking as much as the other defendants involved.Police allowed to return after death; not sure what court procedure is
- [EAF]Kessu (shot outside PD)
- [DC]Rapture (shot outside PD)
- [VU]Brian (committed suicide while wanted and therefore we don't consider him as actually dead)
ARPD Officer STALKER survived the entire ordeal, but the defense moved to invalidate his testimony due to "incompetence." Also, considering Brian was a sniper killing remaining officers (confirmed by himself), despite returning after death, he is still able to be pursued due to the murders he committed then.
- Max.Cipone (shot inside locker room)
- [RO]THE_DARK (shot near end of security footage)
- [RO]ALEX (shot near end of security footage)
For the record, the defense has absolutely no physical evidence of their own.
if Brian commited suicide+got punished + get killed upon re-entering, then you can't sue him.that and
i already recieved a punishment by suiciding from the bridge and i did not return after dead i had a assignment i was payd 25.000 ARD if i could assasinate a person in that invasion (i will not reveal his name) but again i got killed in this event and therefor CAN NOT be sued as i am a deadmantechnically it isnt returning as i was there for a other thing not for the invasion
technically it isnt returning as i was there for a other thing not for the invasion
and if i still will be brought into this case then i will get a lawyer
Rulebreaking aside -I couldnt assasinate the person on that invasion. the day after the invasion, i tried to complete my job but i got arrested and questioned about this case and my connection with it. After that i got jailed and the person who gave me the assignment got trailed later. Again this can be confirmed by ARPD Officer Verz and the other Officers who were there on this scene. (i believe STALKER was on this scene to)
If you weren't back in the situation, then technically it can be considered as an altogether different matter, but it still leaves you in connection to the case.
The police has a number of pieces of evidence (already presented in court), and this has affected the VCPD as a whole.
After that i got jailed and the person who gave me the assignment got trailed later.
You claim to have died in the first situation, then committed suicide, then returned, then got killed in the "second" situation, then got jailed in the situation. Every statement you make contradicts the last, making you an unreliable character witness.mhm no.
Regardless, if you were jailed, you are still subject to the punitive damages, but not the arrest warrant.
If you died in a situation, you can't be tried, or act as a witness, or otherwise be involved in a court case for that situation.