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Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: TheRock on February 23, 2012, 08:26:18 pm
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Hey guys, I'm selling my rig atm, CPU's left only etc and I look to upgrade to something else.
Should I go for AMD FX 6100 or 8120/8150 or i5 2500k?
I don't mind having minor difference of 5-10 FPS less, but just want to buy something new.
So any suggestions?
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434 (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434)
Where I live, the FX-8150 is 60EUR more expensive than the 2500K.
In my honest opinion, you can't go wrong with the 2500K (plus from my experiences, it is ridiculously easy to overclock from 3.3GHz up to
4.4GHz without altering the voltages, just change the ratio of 33x to 44x in the BIOS of your motherboard, for me AsRock Z68 Pro3 :lol:)
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Here, i5 2500k costs exactly 200 euros, and AMD FX 8150 240 euros, whilst 8120 @ 187 Euros and 6100 at 135 Euros.
A full rig (just mobo/cpu/ram) with 6100 would be at 215 Euros (8gb ram / mobo and the cpu) + total of 202 euros for 4gb rig.
A full rig of i5 would be 263 euros (45 mobo / 18 for 4gb ram..)
Budget is around 200 euros atm but will be around 300 euros next week, although I still consider it.
AMD's not that good for gaming, as even the 2500k beats 8150 which has 4+4(hyper threating)
although AMD's good for applications mostly..
Bah, any more opinions?
Considering that I had q9400, going on AMD just for the budget wouldn't be bad, but on the other side, seeing as the quality of intel makes me consider this a little bit more!
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I would go 6100, cheap and still able to get 60fps 1080p ultra with a good gpu
You can also Overclock it very very easily
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I've got an Gigabyte HD6850 1GB to fill the rig with, and I could even run BF3 at high(1080p) @ 60 FPS (without filters) so.. wont be a problem! :)
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Go AMD if u wanna waste money, or Intel if you want a good computer, the 2500k in my oppinion is the best processor out at the moment.
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I've got an Gigabyte HD6850 1GB to fill the rig with, and I could even run BF3 at high(1080p) @ 60 FPS (without filters) so.. wont be a problem! :)
Go with the 6100 and crossfire the 6850
Go AMD if u wanna waste money, or Intel if you want a good computer, the 2500k in my oppinion is the best processor out at the moment.
How is it a waste when you get same performance in everyday task including gaming for less?
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It's not a waste money, but with the samewhat amount of money you can just get a little better system, anyway AMD is for budget gamers, intel is for quality ones!
no I don't plan to CF it, because it's useless as I don't plan to buy 2nd-3rd same size monitors! and plus the power bills would explode and I'd have to get another PSU...
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no I don't plan to CF it, because it's useless as I don't plan to buy 2nd-3rd same size monitors! and plus the power bills would explode and I'd have to get another PSU...
What? ._.
The 6850 MAX TDP is 130 watts so a TX650 would be more then enough for a 6850 CF setup
You dont have to have 2+ monitors for CF or SLI for that matter
Who the hell is telling you this crap
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No but I mean, since I don't plan to have EYE-FINITY, it would just be a waste!
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No its not?
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have a look at benchmark tests, i challenge u to find one that has an AMD in the same price range that beats the 2500k
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No its not?
Yes it is? Since I have 60hz monitor, more than 60 fps wont matter, I just want to max my games and have 60fps, I don't want anything else ;P
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have a look at benchmark tests, i challenge u to find one that has an AMD in the same price range that beats the 2500k
Do you even know what a benchmark test?
Most programs/games only use 2core/threads and even if they do they use more they aren't optimized to run faster on Intel or AMD so your theory yet again fails
Yes it is? Since I have 60hz monitor, more than 60 fps wont matter, I just want to max my games and have 60fps, I don't want anything else ;P
The extra 6850 will make sure you MAX games @ 60FPS 1080p
You don't know how crossfire works do you ._.
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No, I do, but since I already play the only games I want at 60FPS, it'd be a waste :P..
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Got the i5 2500k, runs all the latest games smoothly on maxed out settings.
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Yea, I'll get that one, advised a few friends and told me that. :)
Can't wait! :P
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Most programs/games only use 2core/threads and even if they do they use more they aren't optimized to run faster on Intel or AMD so your theory yet again fails
So basically, your saying that intel processors work best on current Programs(which is what you want in a processor) and AMD just creates Processors based of Future Theoretical Programs? e.g. 8 cores????
If MOST programs/games are the ones that get benchmarked isnt that what you would want your processor to perform like? not like something that is good in a few programs and shit in MOST?
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So basically, your saying that intel processors work best on current Programs(which is what you want in a processor) and AMD just creates Processors based of Future Theoretical Programs? e.g. 8 cores????
Obvious Intel Fan Is Obvious, no one said anything like that
If MOST programs/games are the ones that get benchmarked isnt that what you would want your processor to perform like? not like something that is good in a few programs and shit in MOST?
Only thing that gets benchedmarked is LATEST games and how fast a CPU can do something
You don't see web browsers, VoIP(Skype, TS3, Vent), MSN etc. being benched marked now do you? Most programs like I said aren't optimized to run on any platform faster, they are just designed to run as fast as they can
Since you like to pick your CPU by benchmarks shouldn't you get this one?
http://ark.intel.com/products/53580/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8870-%2830M-Cache-2_40-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI%29 (http://ark.intel.com/products/53580/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8870-%2830M-Cache-2_40-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI%29)
It beats the i5 2500k and the 2600k and the 2011 Socket i7s
Got the i5 2500k, runs all the latest games smoothly on maxed out settings.
GPU does a lot of the work
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Anyways, got a deal today, will get the things on Friday.
Will be getting me:
Mobo: ASRock P55M Pro (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=p55m%20pro)
CPU: Intel Core i7-870 (http://ark.intel.com/products/41315/Intel-Core-i7-870-Processor-(8M-Cache-2_93-GHz)) Processor
(8M Cache, 2.93 GHz) (4 cores + 4 HT, plus turbo on 3,6)
RAM: 8GB - 2 pairs of 4gb not sure on model.
Which I will fill with Thermaltake TR-500 (500W) and Gigabyte HD6850 1gb, as well as around 350gb hdd (Need to buy some new ones, because they are old and slow..)
All of them, barely used from a friend for just 200 USD (150 euros in fact.) Whilst for i5 2500k rig brand new, it would be 270 euros/360 USD.
I'll have some spare money and I could do some of the below:
- Buy 2 more monitors (Eye-finity setup)
- Buy new hdd/more ram (500gb and 8gb more, or just 1tb)
- Sell the HD6850 1GB and get a better one. (like hd6870 2gb version or better!)
Not certain sure what I should use the spare money for, haha! Any advises?
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Anyways, got a deal today, will get the things on Friday.
Will be getting me:
Mobo: ASRock P55M Pro (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=p55m%20pro)
CPU: Intel Core i7-870 (http://ark.intel.com/products/41315/Intel-Core-i7-870-Processor-(8M-Cache-2_93-GHz)) Processor
(8M Cache, 2.93 GHz) (4 cores + 4 HT, plus turbo on 3,6)
RAM: 8GB - 2 pairs of 4gb not sure on model.
Which I will fill with Thermaltake TR-500 (500W) and Gigabyte HD6850 1gb, as well as around 350gb hdd (Need to buy some new ones, because they are old and slow..)
All of them, barely used from a friend for just 200 USD (150 euros in fact.) Whilst for i5 2500k rig brand new, it would be 270 euros/360 USD.
I'll have some spare money and I could do some of the below:
- Buy 2 more monitors (Eye-finity setup)
- Buy new hdd/more ram (500gb and 8gb more, or just 1tb)
- Sell the HD6850 1GB and get a better one. (like hd6870 2gb version or better!)
Not certain sure what I should use the spare money for, haha! Any advises?
Should have got i5 2500k and ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 MOBO
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Not that much budget available, and the difference between i5-2500k and i7-870 are not huge either!
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=107 (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=107)
2500k: 20k (multithread) / singlethread 5860
870: 17k (multithread) / singlethread: 4676
and I don't mind that little difference, CPU's fair good! GPU is the thing that counts more, Q9400 did use to bottleneck the GPU, I doubt it will happen now!
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Pair the 2500k with a Hyper 212 Evo, overclock it to 4.5GHz get a 30% performance boost
Which will demolish that 870 and will be better in the long run but w/e
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Just got my hands on it, it's amazing...!! Haven't tried any game yet, had some issues with drivers and just solved them..
Thing is, I can either open pc with my 80hd(serial)+250gb(sata) which has the boot manager (although broken = forced to format), or either the 20gb which has windows xp (as I'm using).
I somehow need to find a way to connect the other 80gb, back-up the files and format it... or, format one of the 2 and loose the files... (Both win7 installs BSOD due to new hardware..) so either that, or I will just connect the 2 hdds together (the ones that have win 7 both), and launch some Windows Live Boot cd, take my files to an external HDD, then format from begin..
will test SA-MP in a bit, and will return for results!
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You could try the Windows 8 Beta :3
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No thanks, I don't want to install Vista2 on my pc ... :P Lack of drivers and lack of support for a lot of games..
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To backup your files on a corrupt drive, download Recuva, cant garuntee the stability of the files tho.
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It's not corrupt drive, just that BootManager was broken, anyway fixed it by formating Windows 7 64bit on a new partition on the 250gb hdd.. :)
Working good enough, 5gb ram also (1x2GB OCZ Gold, 3x1GB Corsair)..
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Must've been cheap, when you can get 2x4GB 1600MHz CL9 for under 50EUR. :3
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When using RAM it is considered that equal amounts of RAM in each slot is better, and I prefer to use the same brand.
If they are of different speeds, use the slowest as your reference :)
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Well, the ram that I currently use are not actually mine, but some friends.. Will get 2x4 this week for my pc, and it'll be only like 40 Euros Icy.
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Remember to check the motherboard manual to install them into the correct slots. :razz:
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I'm not new to computers, I know how to install ram properly D: ..