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Title: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Reece on March 28, 2012, 08:36:32 pm
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/28/article-1332951788690-125E158C000005DC-527722_636x766.jpg)A picture of officers fooling around with a police firearm has distressed the family of Pc Ian Terry, who was shot dead during a bungled training exercise in June 2008.

The photograph features two police officers from Pc Terry's former unit, one pointing a shotgun at the buttocks of another officer, who is jokily posing on the bonnet of an armoured vehicle.

The two officers are from the GMP Tactical Firearms Unit and have since been removed. Although disciplinary action is said to have been taken, the officers have not been sacked.

The photo was said to have been discovered on a computer during an unrelated raid on an officer's home.

The image was taken just a month after an inquest ruled that Pc Terry, 32, was unlawfully killed while on duty with Greater Manchester Police (GMP) in June 2008.

His family have said they are "extremely distressed" about the photograph.

In a statement issued on behalf of the family - including his widow Joanne - James Reilly, of Ralli solicitors, said: "These images are clearly distressing to the family and highlights that GMP, and in particular the tactical fire arms unit, haven't learnt anything from the circumstances surrounding the tragic death of Ian Terry.

"The family understand from GMP that the photograph was taken 18 months to two years after Ian's death, which would be at the same time as the inquest was being heard (March 2010).

"The inquest heard that there were systemic failings in both the planning and operation of the exercises. A jury returned a verdict of unlawful killing and, following investigations conducted after that verdict, the HSE decided to prosecute GMP and two officers involved under the Health and Safety at Work Act.

"The CPS decided not to charge any of the officers only three weeks ago.

"Ian's family are extremely distressed at the sight of the image released today. They feel that, following the death of a fine young officer, other officers feel it somehow appropriate to fool around during training exercises."

Deputy Chief Constable Ian Hopkins said: "Greater Manchester Police expects the highest professional standards from all officers and staff and clearly this falls well short.

"This matter was dealt with quickly as soon as it came to light in June 2011 and the three officers involved were removed from the firearms unit.

"Their conduct let themselves, their colleagues and the rest of the force down."

Earlier this month, the Health and Safety Executive announced it was prosecuting the force and two of its officers over alleged breaches of safety laws in connection with Pc Terry's death but the CPS ruled there was insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges against the officer who shot Pc Terry or GMP.


Shocking behaviour for those who are supposed to be ELITE officers. Although could this of just been some light hearted fun? When is the line passed?

Share your thoughts..
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 09:32:26 pm
In order to pass a basic weapons handling test, you must never point a rifle/weapon at a person unless you intend to shoot them. They had no choice but to remove them from the team...how bad would it look if they had kept them?
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 28, 2012, 10:30:46 pm
As you pass in the academy, you may not aim towards other officer although a lot of people making fun from those things and to much disasters has been caused up according to those "jokes". I'm againts it, and hopefully we won't have to see those "elite" officers working as it.
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: duffman on March 28, 2012, 11:07:27 pm
Remind me some ARPD officers  :lol:
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Hevar. on March 28, 2012, 11:08:38 pm
Remind me some ARPD officers  :lol:

+1 HAHAHAHAH!!
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 28, 2012, 11:14:09 pm
Remind me some ARPD officers  :lol:

That's ain't nice, are you ARPD/SAPD?
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Reece on March 28, 2012, 11:15:56 pm
Can we please have some serious debate and discussion here?

Don't go off on a tangent and begin discussing ARPD/SAPD. Please keep to the topic.
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 28, 2012, 11:20:33 pm
Can we please have some serious debate and discussion here?

Don't go off on a tangent and begin discussing ARPD/SAPD. Please keep to the topic.

The point in it that people think that ARPD Officer = Noob but it's wrong, but anyway, it's disallowed to aim a firearm towards an officer and a man either.
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: duffman on March 28, 2012, 11:33:59 pm
That's ain't nice, are you ARPD/SAPD?
Proud freecop, sometimes.
The point in it that people think that ARPD Officer = Noob but it's wrong, but anyway, it's disallowed to aim a firearm towards an officer and a man either.
The point its you don't know what we think, take a bit of research and then we chat later holmes.
Can we please have some serious debate and discussion here?

Don't go off on a tangent and begin discussing ARPD/SAPD. Please keep to the topic.
Sorry but had to, go on.

 :ps: Over and out.
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Jack Rosso on March 29, 2012, 10:58:06 am
Ofcourse i understand the family of this dead person feels offended, but a joke between some officers, WITH or WITHOUT direct danger with fireams and such, should be possible if you ask me. These people are trained with using these firearms, yes, they are not allowed to do such an thing but lets face the truth.. are they really doing such an big thing which goes against the regulations? Not if you ask me..

Apologies from these officers should be given, but no punishment further then that.
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Reece on March 29, 2012, 11:22:58 am
Ofcourse i understand the family of this dead person feels offended, but a joke between some officers, WITH or WITHOUT direct danger with fireams and such, should be possible if you ask me. These people are trained with using these firearms, yes, they are not allowed to do such an thing but lets face the truth.. are they really doing such an big thing which goes against the regulations? Not if you ask me..

Apologies from these officers should be given, but no punishment further then that.


I disagree.

This behavior is lewd, crass and distasteful. This officers are supposed to be ELITE, well trained, they are supposed to deal with terrorism.

This picture was taken just WEEKS after the inquest to the death on another officer, who was IN THE SAME UNIT as them was killed while on a training exercise.

Yes, maybe it is just a bit of fun.. but it is not an acceptable bit of fun and is crass.

Officers are trained that when they do need to use the force of discharging their weapon they shoot to kill. Not to wound, to injure them. TO KILL THEM. I wouldn't trust officers with weapons if they do this kind of shit.
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 29, 2012, 11:26:01 am
Quote
This picture is taken only WEEKS after another officer, IN THE SAME UNIT as them was killed while on a training exercise.

Says it all, nothing to add...
Title: Re: Three Elite police marksmen SACKED after lewed behavior PHOTOGRAPHED
Post by: JDC on April 01, 2012, 06:45:57 am
They forget that a gun is always loaded, especially when it is not.
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