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Title: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 13, 2012, 07:24:59 am
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Chinese ships in a standoff with
Philippine Navy forces.
   The Philippines deployed a second vessel to tiny islands in the South China Sea on Thursday in a bid to protect its sovereignty in an increasingly tense territorial standoff with China. Authorities said a coast guard boat joined the Philippines' biggest warship at Scarborough Shoal, where two Chinese surveillance vessels were protecting a group of Chinese fishermen from being arrested.

"It has arrived in the area. It is there to support our navy and to show our flag," foreign affairs department spokesman Raul Hernandez told reporters, referring to the 56-metre-long (184-foot) search and rescue coast guard vessel.

"It is mandated to protect our seas."

However Hernandez also emphasised the Philippines was intent on ending the standoff peacefully, and quickly.

"We are confident the two sides will find a diplomatic solution as they are committed to finding one," he said.

"We want this to be resolved immediately. Our people are there, the Chinese fishermen are there. It is hot and they could run out of food so we want this to be resolved as soon as possible."

The dispute began on Sunday when Philippine authorities found eight Chinese fishing boats at the shoal, a group of tiny islands and reefs 124 nautical miles west of the country's main island of Luzon. The Philippines accused the fishermen of being there illegally, asserting the area was Philippine territory because it was within the country's 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, as recognised by international law.

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Chinese territorial claims in the
Southern China Sea.
   However China claims all of the South China Sea as its own, even waters up to the coasts of other countries, and Chinese authorities insisted the fishermen were allowed to be at the shoal. Competing claims to the South China Sea have long been regarded as one of Asia's potential flashpoints for military conflict. Aside from the Philippines and China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei also have competing claims to the waters.

More than 70 Vietnamese sailors were killed in 1988 when China and Vietnam battled for control of the Spratlys, an archipelago south of Scarborough Shoal. The sea holds huge economic and political significance, as it is believed to sit atop vast oil and gas resources, is home to vast fishing grounds and hosts shipping lanes that carry a third of the globe's maritime trade.

In the latest flare-up in tensions, the Philippines deployed its navy flagship vessel to Scarborough Shoal immediately after the Chinese fishermen were discovered there.

But the two Chinese surveillance vessels appeared on the scene on Tuesday and blocked the Philippine warship from arresting the fishermen, who had reportedly hauled in corals, live sharks and some endangered species.

"For us, this is illegal fishing, illegal poaching and that is why our navy is there to protect our sovereignty and assert our rights," Hernandez said.

The Chinese embassy in Manila released a statement on Wednesday insisting the waters belonged to China and ordering the Philippine warship to leave immediately. In Beijing, foreign ministry spokesman Liu Weimin accused the Philippines of "harassing" the Chinese fishermen and said a protest had been lodged.

"We urge the Philippine side... not to make new troubles and create conditions for the friendly relations of the two countries," Liu said.

The Philippines and Vietnam complained last year of increasingly aggressive acts by China in staking its claim to the South China Sea. The Philippines also accused Chinese vessels of firing warning shots at Filipino fishermen, as well as harassing an oil exploration vessel and placing markers on islets within Philippine territory.

However this week's standoff is the highest-profile in recent years.

Source: Yahoo! News (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-deploys-second-ship-china-standoff-030306132.html)


Another day, another load of bullshit from the poltiical sector. This is just fucking ridiculous.

First of all, China already possesses a powerful economy and plenty of territory. Now, they are hungering for even more, going so far as to stake a claim on the ENTIRE South China Sea, meaning they "own the sea up to the coast of other countries". This basically implies they are claiming up to a foot from our shores... how much more greedy can they get?

Secondly, the Chinese ships in question were only around 150 nautical miles from our shores, when the economic and political boundaries of the Philippines end at 200 miles from our shores, as recognized by INTERNATIONAL LAW. Not only is China hungry for more territories, they are even invading other countries for it.

Thirdly, those illegal Chinese fishermen were caught in the act of illegal fishing; this means they were taking OUR fish, OUR corals, and OUR endangered species. What is worse is that China has ordered its surveillance vessels to defend the illegal fishermen.

Fourth, this happened in part because our politicians voted to kick the Americans (who have maintained a military presence in our country since colonial times) out of the Philippines. I know the USA did not exactly treat our people well at times, but the Philippine military is far too incompetent to win a war with the majority of global countries, especially powerful foes like China, and the presence of the Americans here is one thing that would deter potential attackers. Now while our people starve and watch helplessly as other nations intrude into our waters, our fat-ass politicians continue to dine inside their lavish mansions, showering in all the money they earned from corruption. Fucking pigs.

Fifth, all of this for oil, which the Spratlys (a group of islands close to the area in dispute) are rich in. Instead of solving issues like economic crises, overpopulation, and crime, these scumbags and pieces of shit we call "politicians" choose to waste their time feuding with other countries over the oil hidden under the Spratlys.

Again, this is just fucking ridiculous.

If there are any Chinese readers here, I am not against your people, but I am against your government. Do not take my posts the wrong way.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on April 13, 2012, 07:42:06 am
what. the. heck. Why can't people just get along???
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 13, 2012, 02:23:26 pm
Why do they need that part of the sea, what do they possibly plan to do with it?
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Reece on April 13, 2012, 03:10:11 pm
Almost like the Americans with this...

Common sense would say give it to canada... but oh no..

http://g.co/maps/8gh53 (http://g.co/maps/8gh53)

(http://s2.hubimg.com/u/1601465_f520.jpg)
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 13, 2012, 04:23:02 pm
Quote from: Reece. on April 13, 2012, 03:10:11 pm
Almost like the Americans with this...

Common sense would say give it to canada... but oh no..

http://g.co/maps/8gh53 (http://g.co/maps/8gh53)

(http://s2.hubimg.com/u/1601465_f520.jpg)

yeah but, unlike many countries we dont really mind seeing as Canada and the US share the longest unprotected border in the world ^_^


But back on topic. You state that this is a breech of international law, however as we all should really know, when has international law every really been used for its real purpose? most countries just see it as a threat to their own sovereignty and ignore it. Since the UN is a political nightmare that can't get anything done, its no use falling back on "international laws" they create yet can't enforce. I do not condone the actions of the Chinese in this instance, however they are just playing "Big kid on the Block" and understand completely well that they can do what they want.

But lets fact it, China is a world superpower, and they are going to do exactly what the US has been doing to countries in Central and Souther America.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: EliteTerm on April 13, 2012, 05:54:58 pm
It won't be long before a conflict starts that could slowly progress to World War III.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 13, 2012, 06:32:51 pm
Quote from: EliteTerm on April 13, 2012, 05:54:58 pm
It won't be long before a conflict starts that could slowly progress to World War III.
F**k Yeah!
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Exterminator on April 13, 2012, 07:15:16 pm
Atleast your politicians are thinking for your country one way or another, they are trying to make your country rich.

Imagine India where the politicians would even sell off our land to other countries if offered a high price...
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 13, 2012, 07:32:08 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 13, 2012, 06:32:51 pm
F**k Yeah!

yes because war is so cool. Go back to playing COD.

This will not erupt in to world war 3. People need to get this notion of world war 3 out of their heads. its going to be a number of factors, not just one incident, that will trigger it (if it even ever happens)
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Sphex on April 13, 2012, 08:01:53 pm
World War IV is predicted to be fought with sticks and stones for a reason.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: ElMartu on April 13, 2012, 08:05:53 pm
If anything that North Korea thing is more likely for another big war.

As for this, China's like, just dumb.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 12:00:33 am
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 13, 2012, 07:32:08 pm
yes because war is so cool. Go back to playing COD.

This will not erupt in to world war 3. People need to get this notion of world war 3 out of their heads. its going to be a number of factors, not just one incident, that will trigger it (if it even ever happens)
First of all, COD MW3 = L33t, second of all, I said f**k yeah as in, I agree with you, although I guess it wasn't the best choice of words...
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JayL on April 14, 2012, 01:30:48 am
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 13, 2012, 04:23:02 pm
they are going to do exactly what the US has been doing to countries in Central and Souther America.

Whatever Chinese do in the future, no matter how insane or how violent, to Philippines, isn't even near what the USA did, does and will continue doing to Latin America.

Also - no wonder the PRC is doing such a thing, seeing as how USA had military groups in the country until recently. And they're more than right in doing it.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: battle on April 14, 2012, 01:58:43 am
Quote from: EliteTerm on April 13, 2012, 05:54:58 pm
It won't be long before a conflict starts that could slowly progress to World War III.

Regarding that, i gotta agree it's 1 OF THE headstone for WIII but not the main reason for it to errupt on a global scale, the trigger here is syria or iran simply due to russia protecting them. WIII CAN be prevented still but we're soon at point of no return regarding that point. IF isreal strikes iran US will prolly follow suit to hold the straight open then russia will jump into the fray.. Anyway china should gtfo from the philiphine waters as they don't know what they can set in motion by doing what they do atm...
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:18:15 am
Didn't America steal Alaska from Canada?
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 02:29:46 am
Quote from: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:18:15 am
Didn't America steal Alaska from Canada?

the US bought Alaska from the Russians in the 19th Century.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: ElMartu on April 14, 2012, 05:59:01 am
Quote from: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:18:15 am
Didn't America steal Alaska from Canada?

How is that related to anything

and before you ask and try to push shit into USA why wouldn't you try to google the answer
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 14, 2012, 08:13:22 am
Sad truth how the map of the world is nothing but a board game for the superpowers.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Dolfagr on April 14, 2012, 12:32:16 pm
Wow, that is really aggressive. My only guess is they're looking for oil or gas ridges underwater in your territory.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:14:57 pm
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 02:29:46 am
the US bought Alaska from the Russians in the 19th Century.
Why do Americans argue with Canadians so much then?  :trust:

Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 14, 2012, 08:13:22 am
Sad truth how the map of the world is nothing but a board game for the superpowers.
Way to word it!  :D
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mario_Rinna on April 14, 2012, 02:24:42 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:18:15 am
Didn't America steal Alaska from Canada?

ahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:41:16 pm
Quote from: Mario_Rinna on April 14, 2012, 02:24:42 pm
ahahahahahahahaha
I'm British...  :roll:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JayL on April 14, 2012, 03:34:38 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:41:16 pm
I'm British...  :roll:

Yes, and we're all impressed by how well stuff like BBC informs you.

Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 14, 2012, 08:13:22 am
Sad truth how the map of the world is nothing but a board game for the superpowers.

You should be glad that the influence in your country is shifting from USA to China, even if it's not the whole of it.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 14, 2012, 04:28:11 pm
Quote from: JayL on April 14, 2012, 03:34:38 pm
You should be glad that the influence in your country is shifting from USA to China, even if it's not the whole of it.

Chinese have been our trading partners thousands of years before the USA was founded. Both superpowers influence our politics until today, but the difference is that Americans do not prevent us from arresting illegal fishermen who take our rare marine resources (something the Philippines is known for).

Although I do not have much more love for the USA either.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JayL on April 14, 2012, 05:20:39 pm
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 14, 2012, 04:28:11 pm
Americans do not prevent us from arresting illegal fishermen who take our rare marine resources

Instead they spread the culture of shitty food, chemicals everywhere, medicines for every single problem you come across, MCDONALDS, buy everything at 24-month/48-month pay, drown in debts, believe democracy is the savior of the world, buy half of your country's economy, domination of ''plastic surgery-independent women-omg business is more important than children'' family type leading to school shootings, drugs, child pregnancy, mentally and physically weak people, and ''Welcome to Philippines USA's newest bunker against the communists in China!!!wtfbbq!11".
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: ElMartu on April 14, 2012, 05:22:02 pm
Jay China is an evil shithole it's no better than the USA

Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 07:18:51 pm
Quote from: ElMartu on April 14, 2012, 05:22:02 pm
Jay China is an evil shithole it's no better than the USA

Wow bud, I would not go as far as saying the USA or China is an "Evil Shithole". I have travelled frequently to both places and your making assumptions based solely on how the government acts. If I could live anywhere in the world it would be China, its one of the most amazing places on the planet. The USA is an amazing place to filled with amazing people. Lets not start bashing the people a country solely on how their government acts...
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on April 14, 2012, 07:26:55 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 14, 2012, 02:14:57 pm
Why do Americans argue with Canadians so much then?  :trust:
We don't! Although there is some bashing from both side likes normal although there isn't much to say about Canada, I mean what's bad there?


Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 07:18:51 pm
Wow bud, I would not go as far as saying the USA or China is an "Evil Shithole". I have travelled frequently to both places and your making assumptions based solely on how the government acts. If I could live anywhere in the world it would be China, its one of the most amazing places on the planet. The USA is an amazing place to filled with amazing people. Lets not start bashing the people a country solely on how their government acts...
Thank you for your common sense!
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: stormeus on April 14, 2012, 07:56:56 pm
Quote from: JayL on April 14, 2012, 05:20:39 pm
medicines for every single problem you come across

In a sense, this is good. However, not all of us Americans have such a great view on America either. Domestically we're being fucked sideways by Congress.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JayL on April 14, 2012, 09:58:37 pm
Quote from: stormeus on April 14, 2012, 07:56:56 pm
In a sense, this is good.

If you call it good in any sense, then you are not strong enough to face the problems and instead want to avoid them...
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Daco on April 14, 2012, 10:02:10 pm
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 07:18:51 pm
The USA is an amazing place to filled with amazing people.

I hope you're not serious
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: ElMartu on April 14, 2012, 10:16:52 pm
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 07:18:51 pm
Wow bud, I would not go as far as saying the USA or China is an "Evil Shithole". I have travelled frequently to both places and your making assumptions based solely on how the government acts. If I could live anywhere in the world it would be China, its one of the most amazing places on the planet. The USA is an amazing place to filled with amazing people. Lets not start bashing the people a country solely on how their government acts...

I meant politically. My bad, I have nothing against the people of China.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Emre on April 14, 2012, 10:18:49 pm
The only smart people in the US are the tourists and the immigrants and those with foreign heritage.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 11:30:43 pm
Quote from: Daco on April 14, 2012, 10:02:10 pm
I hope you're not serious

Im not going to argue with someone from France because we all know you guys are born hating Americans :D
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Emre on April 15, 2012, 12:16:03 am
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 11:30:43 pm
Im not going to argue with someone from France because we all know you guys are born hating Americans :D
You know you're provoking someone whose country's official language is the same as yours (excluding English, eh).  :hah:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 15, 2012, 01:05:26 am
Quote from: Emre on April 15, 2012, 12:16:03 am
You know you're provoking someone whose country's official language is the same as yours (excluding English, eh).  :hah:

Don't even get me started on French Canadians bud...
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: KhornateMonkey on April 15, 2012, 01:24:06 am
Quote from: Emre on April 14, 2012, 10:18:49 pm
The only smart people in the US are the tourists and the immigrants and those with foreign heritage.

You've just said that all Americans are smart.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: ElMartu on April 15, 2012, 01:55:46 am
Quote from: KhornateMonkey on April 15, 2012, 01:24:06 am
You've just said that all Americans are smart.

That's what I was going to say. Bad choice of words, Emre.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Emre on April 15, 2012, 02:03:51 am
What I meant was that true-/full-blooded Americans aren't included. :neutral:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: stormeus on April 15, 2012, 03:53:45 am
Quote from: Emre on April 15, 2012, 02:03:51 am
What I meant was that true-/full-blooded Americans aren't included. :neutral:

The Native Americans? :neutral:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 15, 2012, 05:52:47 am
China is full of Chinese, on the other hand the USA is full of immigrants.

"White" Americans are basically Europeans who immigrated.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Kvinlan_Marr on April 15, 2012, 11:59:47 am
How old are you JDC?

Just curious whether you've been in the military yet or not. Because if you weren't, you can get in a fucked up situation if you will get called out later.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Sphex on April 15, 2012, 06:40:49 pm
Quote from: Kvinlan_Marr on April 15, 2012, 11:59:47 am
How old are you JDC?

Just curious whether you've been in the military yet or not. Because if you weren't, you can get in a f**ked up situation if you will get called out later.
What does that have to do with anything exactly..?
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 16, 2012, 08:33:34 am
Quote from: Kvinlan_Marr on April 15, 2012, 11:59:47 am
How old are you JDC?

Just curious whether you've been in the military yet or not. Because if you weren't, you can get in a f**ked up situation if you will get called out later.

I haven't been in full military service yet, although I have been witness to certain things. Some of which I would rather not discuss here.

Once deployed in the military, anyone can get in a fucked-up situation, especially in a country such as mine with high crime rates and "Islamic" terrorists.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 16, 2012, 01:56:17 pm
I just found out the reason for them claiming this sea, there's masses of oil underneath that's if nobody already knows this...  :D
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Dolfagr on April 17, 2012, 01:04:03 am
Quote from: Mikal on April 16, 2012, 01:56:17 pm
I just found out the reason for them claiming this sea, there's masses of oil underneath that's if nobody already knows this...  :D

Quote from: Dolfagr on April 14, 2012, 12:32:16 pm
Wow, that is really aggressive. My only guess is they're looking for oil or gas ridges underwater in your territory.

Indeed, even though their country is big enough for any reliable resources they go ditching on other neighbouring countries to show who's the bully on the area.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Kvinlan_Marr on April 17, 2012, 01:35:09 pm
Quote from: Sphex on April 15, 2012, 06:40:49 pm
What does that have to do with anything exactly..?
Did you fail to see the word "curious (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/curious)"?
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 24, 2012, 02:51:34 pm
Some new updates.

China's hackers attack PH Govt. websites (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/ph-gov-t-websites-attacked-by-chinese-hackers.html)

Chinese Gunship deployed in PH waters (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/chinese-gunboat-patrolling-panatag-173032155.html)
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 24, 2012, 03:51:26 pm
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 24, 2012, 02:51:34 pm
Some new updates.

China's hackers attack PH Govt. websites (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/ph-gov-t-websites-attacked-by-chinese-hackers.html)

Chinese Gunship deployed in PH waters (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/chinese-gunboat-patrolling-panatag-173032155.html)
In my eyes, the rest of the world should tell China to f**k off and stop being such power hungry bullys, because thats all the Chinese government are at the moment.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 24, 2012, 04:12:58 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 24, 2012, 03:51:26 pm
In my eyes, the rest of the world should tell China to f**k off and stop being such power hungry bullys, because thats all the Chinese government are at the moment.

Implying every other world superpower with the ability to tell china off does not do the same thing.  :roll:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 24, 2012, 05:36:05 pm
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 24, 2012, 04:12:58 pm
Implying every other world superpower with the ability to tell china off does not do the same thing.  :roll:
America - Thinks they own the world
Russia - Nuclear bombs yahhhh!
Iraq - Eh, we not getting involved!
United Kingdom - Hmmm, I think we'll just get rid of our military to save money.
India - Eh, this bomb, it only travel 1 mile, not 20000mile *bluffs*

This was a short representation of how I see some of the worlds countrys flaunting round.  ;)
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Sphex on April 24, 2012, 06:45:29 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 24, 2012, 05:36:05 pm
America - Thinks they own the world
Russia - Nuclear bombs yahhhh!
Iraq - Eh, we not getting involved!
United Kingdom - Hmmm, I think we'll just get rid of our military to save money.
India - Eh, this bomb, it only travel 1 mile, not 20000mile *bluffs*

This was a short representation of how I see some of the worlds countrys flaunting round.  ;)

Yes. Because Iraq is currently a world super-power and there are only 5 super-powers in the world.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 24, 2012, 09:41:27 pm
Quote from: Sphex on April 24, 2012, 06:45:29 pm
Yes. Because Iraq is currently a world super-power and there are only 5 super-powers in the world.
Iraq have pretty l33t technology.  :razz:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 24, 2012, 10:13:28 pm
Quote from: Mikal on April 24, 2012, 09:41:27 pm
Iraq have pretty l33t technology.  :razz:

Are you sure your not thinking about Israel?
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 24, 2012, 11:41:38 pm
Regardless of the country, just having nukes is already a form of influence, whether that influence be positive or negative.

Personally, even if I am against the actions of the Chinese government, I would rather sit back and watch as the tension boils up until our people rise up in another revolution and remove these scumbag politicians from power so they can appoint a new set that actually has the bloody courage to defend our asses; it's about time.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Exterminator on April 25, 2012, 08:33:09 am
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 24, 2012, 11:41:38 pm
Regardless of the country, just having nukes is already a form of influence, whether that influence be positive or negative.

Personally, even if I am against the actions of the Chinese government, I would rather sit back and watch as the tension boils up until our people rise up in another revolution and remove these scumbag politicians from power so they can appoint a new set that actually has the bloody courage to defend our asses; it's about time.

If that happens theres a damn good chance the country will be damned in the process..

Plus what else can your politicians do? They cant exactly launch missles at those chinease ships, and they cant go to war because obvious enough china is much stronger.
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 25, 2012, 08:48:32 am
Quote from: exterminator on April 25, 2012, 08:33:09 am
If that happens theres a damn good chance the country will be damned in the process..

Plus what else can your politicians do? They cant exactly launch missles at those chinease ships, and they cant go to war because obvious enough china is much stronger.

I figure they would probably be begging the americans to set up shop here again. :drunk:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 25, 2012, 04:19:21 pm
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 24, 2012, 10:13:28 pm
Are you sure your not thinking about Israel?
I was, how did I write that wrong? TWICE!  :wow:

Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JDC on April 27, 2012, 02:55:22 pm
Yet again.

China vows to defend rights in maritime row: Xinhua (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/china-vows-defend-rights-maritime-row-xinhua-174913465.html)

Beijing warns Manila on sea dispute (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/beijing-warns-manila-sea-dispute-130739539.html;_ylt=ArB0MgMd.Ew4WV4WosY9MHjrV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFmaHJtNzE2BG1pdANJQiBtb2R1bGUEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhSW5maW5pdGVCcm93c2VMaXN0;_ylg=X3oDMTMzbDlibXFoBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDMmI1NGZhMmMtZmY2YS0zM2JhLWExZDktMzBmYjQwMzI2ZDNiBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)

Russia and China hold joint naval exercises (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/china-russia-start-first-navy-drills-032739575.html;_ylt=AnWm03bn_U9OXrh.7AviTkDrV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFmMjZ2Zms0BG1pdANJQiBtb2R1bGUEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhSW5maW5pdGVCcm93c2VMaXN0;_ylg=X3oDMTMzbDlibXFoBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDMmI1NGZhMmMtZmY2YS0zM2JhLWExZDktMzBmYjQwMzI2ZDNiBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)
Philippines hail start of US War Games (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-hails-start-us-war-games-062218839.html;_ylt=ApL3lP_7hfq1vb8AH02keO_rV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFmZmdnMDVtBG1pdANJQiBtb2R1bGUEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhSW5maW5pdGVCcm93c2VMaXN0;_ylg=X3oDMTMzbDlibXFoBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDMmI1NGZhMmMtZmY2YS0zM2JhLWExZDktMzBmYjQwMzI2ZDNiBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JayL on April 27, 2012, 06:19:16 pm
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 27, 2012, 02:55:22 pm
Yet again.

From your same news report:

Quote
military exercises now taking place in Asia between the United States and the Philippines could lead to armed confrontation over the disputed South China Sea.

You think China will watch its neighbor become a vassal of USA and do nothing? :lol:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: Mikal on April 27, 2012, 06:20:49 pm
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 27, 2012, 02:55:22 pm
Yet again.

China vows to defend rights in maritime row: Xinhua (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/china-vows-defend-rights-maritime-row-xinhua-174913465.html)

Beijing warns Manila on sea dispute (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/beijing-warns-manila-sea-dispute-130739539.html;_ylt=ArB0MgMd.Ew4WV4WosY9MHjrV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFmaHJtNzE2BG1pdANJQiBtb2R1bGUEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhSW5maW5pdGVCcm93c2VMaXN0;_ylg=X3oDMTMzbDlibXFoBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDMmI1NGZhMmMtZmY2YS0zM2JhLWExZDktMzBmYjQwMzI2ZDNiBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)

Russia and China hold joint naval exercises (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/china-russia-start-first-navy-drills-032739575.html;_ylt=AnWm03bn_U9OXrh.7AviTkDrV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFmMjZ2Zms0BG1pdANJQiBtb2R1bGUEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhSW5maW5pdGVCcm93c2VMaXN0;_ylg=X3oDMTMzbDlibXFoBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDMmI1NGZhMmMtZmY2YS0zM2JhLWExZDktMzBmYjQwMzI2ZDNiBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)
Philippines hail start of US War Games (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-hails-start-us-war-games-062218839.html;_ylt=ApL3lP_7hfq1vb8AH02keO_rV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFmZmdnMDVtBG1pdANJQiBtb2R1bGUEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhSW5maW5pdGVCcm93c2VMaXN0;_ylg=X3oDMTMzbDlibXFoBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDMmI1NGZhMmMtZmY2YS0zM2JhLWExZDktMzBmYjQwMzI2ZDNiBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)
F**king hell, Chinas going to start a shit storm, why arnt the major countrys of the world doing anytning yet?
Title: Re:
Post by: JDC on April 27, 2012, 08:20:52 pm
War games and navy drills, my ass. These are political shows of power.

Sad to say my country had been a de facto vassal of the Americans for the last hundred years. Their military power aiding us is one of the few good things about it. I would rather have the Americans in my country as well, not because I love them but because our politicians are too weak and stupid to defend our country from anything 200 miles off the shore.
Title: Re:
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 27, 2012, 08:25:36 pm
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 27, 2012, 08:20:52 pm
War games and navy drills my ass

you should reword this  :lol:
Title: Re:
Post by: JDC on April 27, 2012, 08:29:24 pm
Oh shit. Done. :lol:
Title: Re: China asserts claim over SC Sea, intrudes into Philippine territory.
Post by: JayL on April 27, 2012, 09:23:44 pm
Quote from: JDCdesigns on April 27, 2012, 08:20:52 pm
Sad to say my country had been a de facto vassal of the Americans for the last hundred years. Their military power aiding us is one of the few good things about it. I would rather have the Americans in my country as well, not because I love them but because our politicians are too weak and stupid to defend our country from anything 200 miles off the shore.

That is exactly why your country is going through what you say it is.
Title: Re:
Post by: Mikal on April 27, 2012, 10:31:58 pm
Quote from: SafetyMoose on April 27, 2012, 08:25:36 pm
you should reword this  :lol:
:lol: Trust you to notice that.
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