Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: EliteTerm on April 19, 2012, 09:03:59 am
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17765653 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17765653)
Not sure if good idea or not.
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Where are the United Nations, America and all other countries jumping on North Korea for doing the same thing ?
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Where are the United Nations, America and all other countries jumping on North Korea for doing the same thing ?
This, I'm slightly surprised about.
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It's possibly because it was part of the commonwealth, making it a trusted nation.
In my opinion, ofcourse.
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It's possibly because it was part of the commonwealth, making it a trusted nation.
In my opinion, ofcourse.
I would say that is hypocrisy at best.
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I would say that is hypocrisy at best.
Try looking at India's history, its probably the most peaceful country in the world(on the international level..). most minds are dominated by Gandhi. It even worked its place in ranks of UN for representing peace, and all of its decisions are in the favor of peace.
even if India wanted to do damage, who exactly would it have to hurt?Other than defend itself from Pakistan and China, who constantly intrude into Indian territory and attack.
India is simply trying to fortify itself from China, whose history if you would check then India is at a great risk from, seeing that China has made over 20 moves on Indian territory in the last DECADE.
UN doesnt mind it because of them dont like China, so if China invades India and india attacks back with this missle, its in their favor.
I dont mind India making this(and dont let me being Indian cloud that). Wont you try to make similiar things to demonstrate power against China, if its showing all signs of a future invasion? Its just trying to fortify and scare china away.
Nobody gave a shit when China forcefully took away a part of India claiming that their people liked it religiously, nobody cared when China illegally increased its border 20 times, nobody cares that China is building alot of troop bases and airports on the Indian border, Nobody cares that the chinease enter and exit India with no problem. I doubt they will have a problem at this either.India isnt weak, ever since the british i doubt any society in the world would even think of any defense than the best, especially since China won a previous invasion.
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Where are the United Nations, America and all other countries jumping on North Korea for doing the same thing ?
Probably they do not want a situation where India would tell them, "You broke your promise for ___ aid, we break our promise about the agreement. And you are responsiible for all what is gonna happen" - because the launch was successful :lol:
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Lets make it clear I do not object to India developing this. And neither do I object to North Korea or any other country.
My objection is that when a nation is considered friendly with the USA, they can develop whatever they want. But if considered as unfriendly, a major row is created over anything that might weaken the ability of US to overpower them.
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Lets make it clear I do not object to India developing this. And neither do I object to North Korea or any other country.
My objection is that when a nation is considered friendly with the USA, they can develop whatever they want. But if considered as unfriendly, a major row is created over anything that might weaken the ability of US to overpower them.
True.
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Lets make it clear I do not object to India developing this. And neither do I object to North Korea or any other country.
My objection is that when a nation is considered friendly with the USA, they can develop whatever they want. But if considered as unfriendly, a major row is created over anything that might weaken the ability of US to overpower them.
India and USA are not really friends, considering USA helps a major enemy of India, tho most of us know who that is, I won't mention it here since we're a happy and friendly community. ;) Unlike most countries , arms in India's hands are more of a show off. We have barely ever used them, even when India gained its freedom, We didn't use any missiles or heck even any swords. lol We had Gandhi to lead us and we gained it peacefully. India is the land of Gandhi and Mother Teresa. We adapt peace even when we shouldn't. (referring to the recent terrorist attacks on Mumbai, in which some 500+ people were killed by some 10 terrorists.) :roll:
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Lets make it clear I do not object to India developing this. And neither do I object to North Korea or any other country.
My objection is that when a nation is considered friendly with the USA, they can develop whatever they want. But if considered as unfriendly, a major row is created over anything that might weaken the ability of US to overpower them.
India is not on US's side at all actually.
Matter of fact ever since the cold war India initiated non alignment movement, which got the support of over 50+ nations, and still continues to maintain neutrality against superpowers. If anything India's actions have caused losses to the US for possible supporters.
And you can refer to matt's post, During the 3 wars(4 if you count kargil) India had the chance to blow pakistan to pieces, it could of even nuked it in kargil if it wanted. Yet the most lethal weapon used in the wars were outdated tanks..
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Stop the f**king politics and war stuff. It ain't about wars between India and Pakistan. You are just provoking an argument between Indian and Pakistani players. They are members of Argonath as well, so stop it, really.
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Stop the f**king politics and war stuff. It ain't about wars between India and Pakistan. You both are just provoking an argument between Indian and Pakistani players. They are members of Argonath as well, so stop it, really.
If they cannot take criticism given and take part in a normal discussion and debate then they should stay clear of this board...
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If they cannot take criticism given and take part in a normal discussion and debate then they should stay clear of this board...
This board has not been created to discuss politics. The politics board we had was for this stuff, you sure know about it. This topic is not to discuss that if we could have blown up Pakistan into pieces or not, its about Agni V test. Rules tell that there should not be direct or indirect disrespect.
P.S. Hey Dave. :)
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Well I hope nobody tells the US that India is not on their side... :D
Probably Great-Britain still has a soft spot for them, even if India threw them out. ;)
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P.S. Hey Dave. :)
Sup.
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And you can refer to matt's post, During the 3 wars(4 if you count kargil) India had the chance to blow pakistan to pieces, it could of even nuked it in kargil if it wanted. Yet the most lethal weapon used in the wars were outdated tanks..
Nope, During Kargil, Drunk soldiers were the most lethal weapons used against the Pakistani tanks which were hard to be blown up even with the tanks. So it were the brave soldiers who got drunk and tied grenades to their bodies and laid down, and with each tank passing, The tanks blew up with them. Those brave men still have their names engraved on the monument in Delhi called ''India Gate''.
Stop the f**king politics and war stuff. It ain't about wars between India and Pakistan. You are just provoking an argument between Indian and Pakistani players. They are members of Argonath as well, so stop it, really.
Nope, Re Read my post, Didn't even mention Pakistan. And they're not only members of Argonath, They are a part of us as well, It wasn't much long ago when two great countries were one. :) And if you look at it now, noone but its our politics holding grudges against each other. Most of my best friends are from Pak and I'm sure no one takes a good discussion as an offense.
Well I hope nobody tells the US that India is not on their side... :D
Probably Great-Britain still has a soft spot for them, even if India threw them out. ;)
India is on everybody's side, We're like potato which is used in every dish and our people are likes mushrooms which are found everywhere. :D
Not sure about UK, But USA and India are very close economically , may it not be political.
And Indian forces participate in trainings with Russia and USA, Each and every year on theirs or our bases. :cop:
:ps: Just found out this missile was developed in my back yard. :D The D.R.D.O. which developed the Agni missiles has its complex just a street across our colony. :D
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Well I hope nobody tells the US that India is not on their side... :D
Probably Great-Britain still has a soft spot for them, even if India threw them out. ;)
The US is constantly trying to pump into India, so as to have a stronghold against China and into Asia. They even offered to give us a free supply of weapons and even soldiers while at war with pakistan, but we denied it with respect to non-alignment. US tries to invest in India each chance it gets actually, trying to get us on their side...
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Nope, Re Read my post, Didn't even mention Pakistan. And they're not only members of Argonath, They are a part of us as well, It wasn't much long ago when two great countries were one. :) And if you look at it now, noone but its our politics holding grudges against each other. Most of my best friends are from Pak and I'm sure no one takes a good discussion as an offense.
Nope, my post wasn't for you, it was for Exterminator :). But now, it's for you as well. Stop posting about the wars between the two countries, it's not about the wars but about the missile (and anything related to it).
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Nope, my post wasn't for you, it was for Exterminator :). But now, it's for you as well. Stop posting about the wars between the two countries, it's not about the wars but about the missile (and anything related to it).
I put the pakistan thing as a example, if you think thats offensive, i seriously doubt how your brain functions.
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I put the pakistan thing as a example, if you think thats offensive, i seriously doubt how your brain functions.
One of the most childish comment (also the post which I referred first).
Funny how you go like "We could have blown up Pakistan into pieces" (which is typically how a child/kid talks) and say that my brain functions abnormally where as you are talking like an immature kid.
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^/^^ Lets not start personal attacks...
On Topic: I think India is just trying to show North Korea how its really done :devroll:
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Yeah, I think none meant to provoke none.
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^/^^ Lets not start personal attacks...
On Topic: I think India is just trying to show North Korea how its really done :devroll:
^^ :)
Read today's newspaper and found out We also have plans to develop a missile which can go 10,000 kms. which is still on papers tho awaiting a go from higher commands to start the development. However Agni 6 is under development too, which can go 6,000-8,000 Kms.
And not North Korea, more of China after the way Chinese media reacted to it. China has been eyeing us a lot lately. :roll:
With Agni 5, After US, China, France and Russia, India became the fifth nation to have inter continental ballistic missiles. :devroll:
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^^ :)
Read today's newspaper and found out We also have plans to develop a missile which can go 10,000 kms. which is still on papers tho awaiting a go from higher commands to start the development. However Agni 6 is under development too, which can go 6,000-8,000 Kms.
And not North Korea, more of China after the way Chinese media reacted to it. China has been eyeing us a lot lately. :roll:
With Agni 5, After US, China, France and Russia, India became the fifth nation to have inter continental ballistic missiles. :devroll:
My newspaper doesn't publish any such information. >.>
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India is on everybody's side, We're like potato which is used in every dish and our people are likes mushrooms which are found everywhere. :D
:rofl:
I feel that a lot of this speculation of India whacking China is just media speculation. India has a 100% record when it comes to non proliferation & no first attacks. We have improved our arsenal and that just seems to be the gist of it all.
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I feel that a lot of this speculation of India whacking China is just media speculation. India has a 100% record when it comes to non proliferation & no first attacks. We have improved our arsenal and that just seems to be the gist of it all.
Nobody said India is attacking anybody, India is just scaring China away from it. The agni-V's obvious target is mainly bejeing in case of war, but mostly to tell China that we can now nuke their capital.
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Nobody said India is attacking anybody, India is just scaring China away from it. The agni-V's obvious target is mainly bejeing in case of war, but mostly to tell China that we can now nuke their capital.
Why the hell would anyone want to nuke a country's capital. You nuke their capital, they nuke yours. Who is the winner then?
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Why the hell would anyone want to nuke a country's capital. You nuke their capital, they nuke yours. Who is the winner then?
in nuclear wars there is no winner.
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in nuclear wars there is no winner.
Which is why there has never been one and why there hopefully never will be one.
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My newspaper doesn't publish any such information. >.>
Switch to Times of India, ASAP!!
Why the hell would anyone want to nuke a country's capital. You nuke their capital, they nuke yours. Who is the winner then?
No. India's capital Delhi is protected against any types of Air attacks, We have a system that if a war happens and someone launches a missile towards Delhi, our already ready defense system will be activated and destroy the missiles heading towards us at about 5,000 feet in the air, It'll mean nothing more than some pretty expensive fire works to the Delhiites. I live in the capital so I know of it. :D
The US is constantly trying to pump into India, so as to have a stronghold against China and into Asia. They even offered to give us a free supply of weapons and even soldiers while at war with pakistan, but we denied it with respect to non-alignment. US tries to invest in India each chance it gets actually, trying to get us on their side...
And you Sir. Sorry had to rush before so didn't get time, most, actually all of your points are invalid. We need US just as much as US needs us. Free supplies of weapons? :rofl: Zomg where did the $16 billion dollars go then?? If We could get weapons for free. And war with Pakistan? When did that even happen? The last time I checked USA was paying $2 billion dollars to Pakistan each year to fight the terrorism. Tho about the soldiers, that indeed did happen, which we politely refused just so India doesn't turn into another Afganistan or what Pakistan is going through at the moment.
We have a tight economical base with US indeed, due to the weakening relations of theirs with China and India being a major power in Asian continent after China.
If US actually was so eager, they'd start offering VISA on arrival for Indian citizens, instead of making the VISA terms even tougher. I wonder where you get the points from. :conf:
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Switch to Times of India, ASAP!!
No. India's capital Delhi is protected against any types of Air attacks, We have a system that if a war happens and someone launches a missile towards Delhi, our already ready defense system will be activated and destroy the missiles heading towards us at about 5,000 feet in the air, It'll mean nothing more than some pretty expensive fire works to the Delhiites. I live in the capital so I know of it. :D
And you Sir. Sorry had to rush before so didn't get time, most, actually all of your points are invalid. We need US just as much as US needs us. Free supplies of weapons? :rofl: Zomg where did the $16 billion dollars go then?? If We could get weapons for free. And war with Pakistan? When did that even happen? The last time I checked USA was paying $2 billion dollars to Pakistan each year to fight the terrorism. Tho about the soldiers, that indeed did happen, which we politely refused just so India doesn't turn into another Afganistan or what Pakistan is going through at the moment.
We have a tight economical base with US indeed, due to the weakening relations of theirs with China and India being a major power in Asian continent after China.
If US actually was so eager, they'd start offering VISA on arrival for Indian citizens, instead of making the VISA terms even tougher. I wonder where you get the points from. :conf:
You do know this happened BEFORE any of that osama or afghanistan or taliban shit went down right...
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..."the West" were the ones that armed the Taliban in the first place...
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Can you imagine what an unstable country such as North Korea would do if they got a long range missle?
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Can you imagine what an unstable country such as North Korea would do if they got a long range missle?
Accidentally launch it upside down? :roll:
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Can you imagine what an unstable country such as North Korea would do if they got a long range missle?
Actually threaten the USA?
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Can you imagine what an unstable country such as North Korea would do if they got a long range missle?
>unstable country
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
The USA with their on-thin-line economy is probably more unstable than North Korea right now.
Funny thing, people say the North Koreans are harshly repressed by government, that they suffer this and that, but when it is time to pull some argument like that - they're the unstable country, which means the government is not strong enough to control the nation...
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Accidentally launch it upside down? :roll:
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Accidentally launch it upside down? :roll:
LOL
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Accidentally launch it upside down? :roll:
As if they haven't already. It just went upward for a few seconds though. :lol:
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As if they haven't already. It just went upward for a few seconds though. :lol:
Thanks God, It didn't go left or right. :lol:
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Can you imagine what an unstable country such as North Korea would do if they got a long range missle?
Blow themselves up or...
Accidentally launch it upside down? :roll:
Although it looked awesome why are all countries suddenly trying to develop missiles, it's like they are intentionally trying to piss America/UN off. :roll:
Although I think America needs to butt out of other countries business.
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Blow themselves up or...
Although it looked awesome why are all countries suddenly trying to develop missiles, it's like they are intentionally trying to piss America/UN off. :roll:
Although I think America needs to butt out of other countries business.
Naah, Countries are just trying to strengthen up. Seen different types of cops? Which one is most powerful, The one with deagle, pepper spray and baton or the one with m4, deagle, combat, baton and pepper spray? Its just like that.
However back to topic, I find it really funny how Chinese media is reacting on it. We developed the missile, We tested it , We know it goes 5,000 kms. but Chinese media says we liezzzzzz it can go 10,000 Kms!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Agni-V-China-tries-to-provoke-Agni-V-fear-says-it-can-hit-Europe/articleshow/12752380.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Agni-V-China-tries-to-provoke-Agni-V-fear-says-it-can-hit-Europe/articleshow/12752380.cms)
As stated they're just trying to get western countries on our ass, So USA and Russia doesn't sell us the parts to build weapons anymore.
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Naah, Countries are just trying to strengthen up. Seen different types of cops? Which one is most powerful, The one with deagle, pepper spray and baton or the one with m4, deagle, combat, baton and pepper spray? Its just like that.
However back to topic, I find it really funny how Chinese media is reacting on it. We developed the missile, We tested it , We know it goes 5,000 kms. but Chinese media says we liezzzzzz it can go 10,000 Kms!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Agni-V-China-tries-to-provoke-Agni-V-fear-says-it-can-hit-Europe/articleshow/12752380.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Agni-V-China-tries-to-provoke-Agni-V-fear-says-it-can-hit-Europe/articleshow/12752380.cms)
As stated they're just trying to get western countries on our ass, So USA and Russia doesn't sell us the parts to build weapons anymore.
Wow USA and Russia are providing India with weapons? I think US should keep their weapons to theirselves after previous events (If you know what I'm talking about)..
Anyway countries should be pulling together for those future alien attacks instead of developing weapons to use on eachother in the next world war.
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It's a shame money is wasted on weapons and mass destruction tools, while they can be used to develop the country and fight poverty which is about 40% in India, no offense.
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It's a shame money is wasted on weapons and mass destruction tools, while they can be used to develop the country and fight poverty which is about 40% in India, no offense.
None taken. It's completely true.
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Exactley, waste millions (if not billions in some cases) on developing missiles when you could be housing and feeding those that live in little 1 room shacks on the edge of major city's....
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Exactley, waste millions (if not billions in some cases) on developing missiles when you could be housing and feeding those that live in little 1 room shacks on the edge of major city's....
actually thats not true at all, if you look at India budget billions of dollars are being rolled out, sadly the amount that makes it to the target audience is negligible to the original amount, and that wont change whether we spend millions billion trillions or quadrillions...
while China is constantly intruding into Indian territory, and at this rate chances of war are very high and india's chances are success are very low, if anything more money needs to go to the military.
Everyone is corrupt in india, even the people who the money goes to.
The people who are seen begging on airports, are actually having a higher montly earning than more Indians who work in I.T....
Also Chinease media...i wonder why we would hide that our missle is having a longer range when our objective to China is to tell that that we have long range missles in the first place..
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The people who are seen begging on airports, are actually having a higher montly earning than more Indians who work in I.T....
Shh, the I.T. guys might see that and become beggars at airports.
Jokes aside, is it really necessary for India to prioritize military strength over fighting poverty?
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It's a shame money is wasted on weapons and mass destruction tools, while they can be used to develop the country and fight poverty which is about 40% in India, no offense.
"One imposes his own system as far as his army can reach".
No offense, but pacifism isn't going to take you anywhere but a grave like that of John Lennon. Cut spendings on expansion of military power and tech, invest it all on people. Yes, very nice - you might get yourself a Nobel Prize or the UN might eventually gift you a clown nose. The next day you find yourself out of all the power you had...
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Wow USA and Russia are providing India with weapons? I think US should keep their weapons to theirselves after previous events (If you know what I'm talking about)..
They aren't ''providing'' they are selling, because we pay them in return.
It's a shame money is wasted on weapons and mass destruction tools, while they can be used to develop the country and fight poverty which is about 40% in India, no offense.
Not really, If you look at it, India has budget of billions of dollars, India has more than 5 billionaires in the world's richest list, more than any other country. And India has not hundreds but thousands of millionaires as well! Ranked 3rd in the world after USA and another country.
The real problem with India is not how much we spend on weapons, or constructing bridges or what so ever the plans are. The problem is corruption. The public pays taxes, The government allots funds to make roads etc of the area, The engineer appointed by government eats up about 80% of the money himself and uses the rest to make a road which would break again in next 6 months so he can gain more money. That's the main reason even the littlest plan of ours taken about 100s of million if not less.
If we take example of the Commonwealth games which took place in Delhi, India in 2010, The chairman of Olympic Committee of India was arrested for corruption of millions of dollars , He lived in a Air conditioned jail, Had his assets seized , MAYBE. But was the money ever recovered? Nope. Because its already in swiss banks and the guy is rest assured with millions of dollars after his retirement.
In recent elections which took place just 2 days ago, facts have came out that 51% of the chosen MLAs are Millionaires, 21% are illiterate and 9% have criminal background. That's the Indian politics.
Its a fact Indians have about Rs 65223 trillion of black money deposited in their Swiss bank accounts, more than any other nation. That's ought to be around some 700 trillion dollars if converted in US dollars. And that's just a slight view on how powerful corruption is in India. Poverty is everywhere not only in India, Even US has beggers and people living under bridges and dark streets.
And Dolfa, tho a good debate question is always welcome. The last time we checked it was Greece suffering from economic crisis, No offense. :devroll:
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while China is constantly intruding into Indian territory, and at this rate chances of war are very high and india's chances are success are very low, if anything more money needs to go to the military.
I'm sure the world would back India up against power hungry China.
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There is a difference between Greece and India..
We have an awful economy, but a better lifestyle
India may have a great economy, but a worst lifestyle
As once Cofi once said, how is this possible?
The case is probably rapid population growth of India and large corruption as you mentioned.
"One imposes his own system as far as his army can reach".
No offense, but pacifism isn't going to take you anywhere but a grave like that of John Lennon. Cut spendings on expansion of military power and tech, invest it all on people. Yes, very nice - you might get yourself a Nobel Prize or the UN might eventually gift you a clown nose. The next day you find yourself out of all the power you had...
None taken. Developing a country isn't about spending it on civilians, but developing public services, fighting corruption, which is already large, higher level of education, reasearch, new technologies, better health care and wage increases, agriculture and other investments on local industries. Ofcourse and defense budget has to remain reasonable but right now India is not involved in any war and I definitely don't see one coming, so their missile program could have waited a while.
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Dolfa, Since this topic is about India, Please explain to me, how India has the worst lifestyle. :) What is it that other countries have and We don't? If anything.
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Dolfa, Since this topic is about India, Please explain to me, how India has the worst lifestyle. :) What is it that other countries have and We don't? If anything.
Typo on worst, ment to be worse
What I ment is that despite having worse economy than yours, our minimum wage is better than yours (we may have higher prices on products than you, food etc) but the people act differently here, they still manage to go out, have a nice life and spend a lot of money. Of course and I won't compare Greece to India, as you have 120 times our population and you're country is based on agriculture more than industry, correct me if I am wrong though :P
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I'm a greek aswell and I can fully agree to what Dolfa said about Greece. We can't compare Greece with India as they are such different countries in culture and more, though.
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Typo on worst, ment to be worse
What I ment is that despite having worse economy than yours, our minimum wage is better than yours (we may have higher prices on products than you, food etc) but the people act differently here, they still manage to go out, have a nice life and spend a lot of money. Of course and I won't compare Greece to India, as you have 120 times our population and you're country is based on agriculture more than industry, correct me if I am wrong though :P
:lol: True facts, If I have to accept Greeks have more fun than the Indians it indeed is true. Though our culture is very very close, With both Greece and India being famous for their historical gods more than anything. But while for you, A good fun time means going on a week long vacation and observe the beautiful scenes of nature, even a weekend outing is hard and enough for us. :lol:
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lifestyle in India is shit compared to any country in the world, even ones like libya.
just try going on the road for a average drive and not facing with a single condition where you either break traffic rules or get f**ked.
everyone cares for his own shit in here, yeah...
im gonna dump this lifestyle the first chance i get
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even ones like libya.
Post-Gadaffi Libya, yes.
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Dolfa, Since this topic is about India, Please explain to me, how India has the worst lifestyle. :) What is it that other countries have and We don't? If anything.
India has famine.
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lifestyle in India is shit compared to any country in the world, even ones like libya.
just try going on the road for a average drive and not facing with a single condition where you either break traffic rules or get f**ked.
everyone cares for his own shit in here, yeah...
im gonna dump this lifestyle the first chance i get
Its not that bad unless you live in a village with no fans and stuff. lol
Being the 7th largest nation in landmass and 2nd in population it can't be that bad. If you think India's lifestyle is worth shit, you have seen nothing yet.
I have not visited anywhere else but Haryana, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Himachal, Punjab and Rajasthan. I'm not sure how life is in the south or the middle, but living standards are greatest in the world in the North.
To shorten up, Chandigarh(Punjab) and Delhi have been picked several times by different surveys to be the best places to live in the world.
I'm not sure if you classify the lifestyle of a city by how much the people go out , but standards of living are very high in the two cities I mentioned. Whenever I go out there's too much traffic to even break a traffic rule most of the time. :lol: But when I go for morning walk, I notice many sports cars, convertibles and luxury cars like Jaguar and Land Rover more than anywhere else in Asia. Tho if anything, living is the most expensive, The cost of an apartment can be compared to the cost of a well built 5 bedroom house in USA, and even that in cities like New York and even still the American house stands cheaper.
India has famine.
I think you misunderstood India with an african nation. :cool:
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Bro I'm sure many sources will tell you that many people in India suffer from extreme poverty
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I think you misunderstood India with an african nation. :cool:
No.
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Its not that bad unless you live in a village with no fans and stuff. lol
Being the 7th largest nation in landmass and 2nd in population it can't be that bad. If you think India's lifestyle is worth shit, you have seen nothing yet.
I have not visited anywhere else but Haryana, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Himachal, Punjab and Rajasthan. I'm not sure how life is in the south or the middle, but living standards are greatest in the world in the North.
To shorten up, Chandigarh(Punjab) and Delhi have been picked several times by different surveys to be the best places to live in the world.
I'm not sure if you classify the lifestyle of a city by how much the people go out , but standards of living are very high in the two cities I mentioned. Whenever I go out there's too much traffic to even break a traffic rule most of the time. :lol: But when I go for morning walk, I notice many sports cars, convertibles and luxury cars like Jaguar and Land Rover more than anywhere else in Asia. Tho if anything, living is the most expensive, The cost of an apartment can be compared to the cost of a well built 5 bedroom house in USA, and even that in cities like New York and even still the American house stands cheaper.
I think you misunderstood India with an african nation. :cool:
I travelled to Mumbai a few years ago and the living conditions there are VERY VERY low compared to western society. People live in poverty and a large portion of the population lives in slums... idk where your getting your information from but India has a very LOW quality of life compared to the rest of the world....
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Bro I'm sure many sources will tell you that many people in India suffer from extreme poverty
That's very very true, Some 9% of India suffers from extreme poverty and food for them is what they can earn each day or nothing at all.
I travelled to Mumbai a few years ago and the living conditions there are VERY VERY low compared to western society. People live in poverty and a large portion of the population lives in slums... idk where your getting your information from but India has a very LOW quality of life compared to the rest of the world....
As I said, I've never been to the Southern part, The info I stated is from what I see around, Maybe its just the capital and northern part which has high standards of living? Look up Delhi really, Maybe watch the half marathon this year on TV or Youtube an old one, You'll get to notice some.
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im gonna dump this lifestyle the first chance i get
This is what I felt, when I left for Oman...Then something happens and the only thing you wanna do is get back home.
I love my country. It is the best place in the whole god damn world. India is not perfect, I will be the first to admit it. But it is my homeland, MY country. Just as any other patriotic citizen would feel about his country..
Additionally, I wonder why people go to Mumbai and base India on what they see there. Mumbai is a big city, featured as a 'mega city' on Nat Geo or so, but it is not at all representative of India. If anything, India has a huge level of diversity between states, even within states. Travel south to Bangalore or Chennai or Cochin, head north to Delhi, Chandigarh or Agra or the Himalayas and east to Calcutta & North eastern states...then you can say that you have seen India
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You can't just base a location that if you see poverty & bad conditions, then you assume it's the same for the rest.
It's like trying to compare Compton with Beverly Hills in Los Angeles
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This is what I felt, when I left for Oman...Then something happens and the only thing you wanna do is get back home.
I love my country. It is the best place in the whole god damn world. India is not perfect, I will be the first to admit it. But it is my homeland, MY country. Just as any other patriotic citizen would feel about his country..
Additionally, I wonder why people go to Mumbai and base India on what they see there. Mumbai is a big city, featured as a 'mega city' on Nat Geo or so, but it is not at all representative of India. If anything, India has a huge level of diversity between states, even within states. Travel south to Bangalore or Chennai or Cochin, head north to Delhi, Chandigarh or Agra or the Himalayas and east to Calcutta & North eastern states...then you can say that you have seen India
Going to be honest Cutt3r, I hate India too. Ever since 10th Grade I started to hate it even more, to the point where I'd go out of here asap. And also to the point of seeing this place as Arkham, India had no hope left just like Arkham in Batman, due to the corruption and selfishness of people. But its the people I hate, not the soil I was born in, India is a great country, and one should be proud of it. But its the people who make a nation what it is and decide its future, currently, that just doesn't look so good for us.
However, I try not to give a fuck about the nation , why, explained above. I love my city to bits. I love Delhi, There can't be a better place than this. It has all the greenery and fresh air as well as up to date with technology and everything. I'll post a few pics of my school as soon as I find them to show what I'm generally talking of.
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I travelled to Mumbai a few years ago and the living conditions there are VERY VERY low compared to western society. People live in poverty and a large portion of the population lives in slums... idk where your getting your information from but India has a very LOW quality of life compared to the rest of the world....
So yeah Mr. Canada, you take your wonderful trip to Mumbai and make your whole opinion of India based on it?
I'd call India's lifestyle different than that of the West, and if anything the Indians should be proud of having their own lifestyle.
Because after all India has only 35 million inhabitants and overall making it a very very easy to manage country yes?
India, just like China, have problems like any country on similar conditions... But the fact that they have much bigger populations makes people think that the scale of the problems is disproportional. Untrue.
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Why are you not having the same migrations like China?
Not that I like that,I mean they infected every possible part of the world,in almost every town that counts more then say 50,000 you are bound to have a couple of percent of China-men.
I mean you're numbers are going up rapidly and jet you still keep you're population,more or less, inside you're boundaries.I'm confused how you still manage,since you're one of the largest population stuck in one peace of land.
Its not that bad unless you live in a village with no fans and stuff. lol
I think living in the village would just do the trick,because of the whole rush hours in the city you people have.
You might not have satellite TV or some mad internet,but that doesn't mean that you can have a descent and happy life.
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Why are you not having the same migrations like China?
Not that I like that,I mean they infected every possible part of the world,in almost every town that counts more then say 50,000 you are bound to have a couple of percent of China-men.
I mean you're numbers are going up rapidly and jet you still keep you're population,more or less, inside you're boundaries.I'm confused how you still manage,since you're one of the largest population stuck in one peace of land.I think living in the village would just do the trick,because of the whole rush hours in the city you people have.
You might not have satellite TV or some mad internet,but that doesn't mean that you can have a descent and happy life.
Errm, Might not have satellite TV?
http://www.videocond2h.com/WSC/products.aspx (http://www.videocond2h.com/WSC/products.aspx)
Satellite HD - DVR along with Platinum HD pack (450+ channels) is what I personally use.
Tho I agree on the part about internet. Its sad that India is progressing so fast yet our Internet is slower than a turtle. This is my personal speed, just barely 4MBPS, and yet its faster than 90% of India.
:ps: Took this on my phone, using 3G.
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So yeah Mr. Canada, you take your wonderful trip to Mumbai and make your whole opinion of India based on it?
I'd call India's lifestyle different than that of the West, and if anything the Indians should be proud of having their own lifestyle.
Because after all India has only 35 million inhabitants and overall making it a very very easy to manage country yes?
India, just like China, have problems like any country on similar conditions... But the fact that they have much bigger populations makes people think that the scale of the problems is disproportional. Untrue.
According to Wikipedia (I know), over half of India's population lives on less than 2 USD per day. That's fucked up, and it's not just because of the huge population.
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According to Wikipedia (I know), over half of India's population lives on less than 2 USD per day. That's f**ked up, and it's not just because of the huge population.
2 usd?The indian poverty line is 5 dollars a Month, and more than half dont meet that, wikipedia is way off.
India fun fact 101: Before the british invasions, the countries of India together had more money than the rest of the world COMBINED.
Every place was loaded, you even built a tiny temple the size of a apartment, the next day there would be enough gold to buy a mansion donated in it.(If it is built by the 'brahmin' caste that is.
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India fun fact 101: Before the british invasions, the countries of India together had more money than the rest of the world COMBINED.
Any sources?
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Any sources?
Sure, dig up any history website you want.
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Any sources?
I've heard about India being the richest before invasion but haven't really heard of anything like having more wealth than all the of the other nations combined.
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So yeah Mr. Canada, you take your wonderful trip to Mumbai and make your whole opinion of India based on it?
I'd call India's lifestyle different than that of the West, and if anything the Indians should be proud of having their own lifestyle.
Because after all India has only 35 million inhabitants and overall making it a very very easy to manage country yes?
India, just like China, have problems like any country on similar conditions... But the fact that they have much bigger populations makes people think that the scale of the problems is disproportional. Untrue.
Pretty sure I can judge it how I want. If I see a shit ton of poor people im going to judge it, especially since that would never be allowed to happen over here. unless of course your trying to tell me that all the poor people are shoved in to one place in india, which in itself is pretty screwed up as well. Stop being jealous and trying to start crap with me just because im happy to live a higher lifestyle then a lot of other people. I worked for it.
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@jayl
Its not 35m
its well over 1300m :)
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Pretty sure I can judge it how I want. If I see a shit ton of poor people im going to judge it, especially since that would never be allowed to happen over here. unless of course your trying to tell me that all the poor people are shoved in to one place in india, which in itself is pretty screwed up as well. Stop being jealous and trying to start crap with me just because im happy to live a higher lifestyle then a lot of other people. I worked for it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A higher lifestyle? Judging by your knowledge (and, worst of it, in, as they say, highly educated Canada) of other countries. I remember you saying Serbia was just a shitty communist third world country - with such an education, the only higher thing of your lifestyle must be stupidity. :lol:
@jayl
Its not 35m
its well over 1300m :)
It's called irony.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A higher lifestyle? Judging by your knowledge (and, worst of it, in, as they say, highly educated Canada) of other countries. I remember you saying Serbia was just a shitty communist third world country - with such an education, the only higher thing of your lifestyle must be stupidity. :lol:
It's called irony.
Well if stupidity allows me to own a $45,000 car, have a stable job and get a University Education at the age of 18, it must not be that bad eh? :roll:
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Well if stupidity allows me to own a $45,000 car, have a stable job and get a University Education at the age of 18, it must not be that bad eh? :roll:
1. Our parents don't allow us to have a car before 18, not even after 18, not even until early 20's. But of course we already have a job by then and most likely have bought our own car. They may buy vehicle's worth 45,000$ but simply give us their old cars saying we need more experience.
2. Most of us get university education by 18 as well.
3. Job? We already have enough money, won't go on job. (If we need money, we simply don't have enough time to have a job since the study/book load is already too much for us but we usually ask our parents for stuff we want, and they give us. :)
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Well if stupidity allows me to own a $45,000 car, have a stable job and get a University Education at the age of 18, it must not be that bad eh? :roll:
/brag
Money isn't everything you know, and I would call it ignorance over stupidity.
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/brag
Money isn't everything you know, and I would call it ignorance over stupidity.
Hey, I don't mean to be all braggy, but if he wants to go ahead and call my lifestyle stupid he should know the facts about how high a quality it is. I should not be ridiculed because I have the capacity to work for whatever I want.
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stable job and get a University Education at the age of 18, it must not be that bad eh? :roll:
That's nothing special. Loads of young Indians & Brazilians for example are getting that.
And as for your $45.000 car - congratulations, now you can indeed consolidate your higher fat lifestyle of Western world by driving and never walking again!
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That's nothing special. Loads of young Indians & Brazilians for example are getting that.
And as for your $45.000 car - congratulations, now you can indeed consolidate your higher fat lifestyle of Western world by driving and never walking again!
Whatever you say bud XD
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Whatever you say bud XD
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I wonder if that guy in the pic is Canadian too. :trust:
I agree with Charlie, however the first point is invalid, most of my friends started to drive since the age of 16. I have a car too, of my own. Tho I'm still trying to get a license since I turned 18 just 2 months ago.
About the 2USD a day thing, that's worker class. They are the workers who work on daily basis. In India law says if you hire a employee(monthly) the minimum pay you must pay is around $70 and that has been effective since more than last 5 year.
Now lets do some comparisons, while some of us Indians might be sitting at home watching Live Cricket matches on their LED TV while eating a $20 dominos pizza.
A poor man, who earns 2USD a day's food costs only 20 cents. only 20 cents, a man, one meal. His vehicle, a standard bicycle costs just around 20-30 $ , which most of us spend during a day or even less.
A higher middle class man's Jeans costs around $70 and shoes around $120 (referring to myself I don't know about others)
But a poor man's pants costs only $5 and shoes even less.
But just because he's poor and buys cheap stuff doesn't mean he gets bad stuff, rough unusable stuff. Main sources of income in India is agriculture and manufacturing. Most of the stuff you see, Addidas, Nike, Puma, They all are made and assembled in India. Just about 70Kms. from my home in a village type area.
So Wouldn't say its really that bad.
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If there's one thing I hate, it's someone who brag at the miss-fortune of others.
Moose, what if some major random disaster happens like America 'accidentaly' launches a nuke at Canada and literly blows you all to shreds, but theres a few million survivors who are now homeless with nowhere to go, maybe India can then brag infront of you whilst your homeless, and don't say America would never nuke Canada, we all know how careless they are with weapons, do I need to state one time America fucked up hard? ;)
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If there's one thing I hate, it's someone who brag at the miss-fortune of others.
Moose, what if some major random disaster happens like America 'accidentaly' launches a nuke at Canada and literly blows you all to shreds, but theres a few million survivors who are now homeless with nowhere to go, maybe India can then brag infront of you whilst your homeless, and don't say America would never nuke Canada, we all know how careless they are with weapons, do I need to state one time America f**ked up hard? ;)
yes because america would totally accidentally nuke it's ally to fuck up it's relations with the rest of the allies. makes perfect sense.
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If there's one thing I hate, it's someone who brag at the miss-fortune of others.
Moose, what if some major random disaster happens like America 'accidentaly' launches a nuke at Canada and literly blows you all to shreds, but theres a few million survivors who are now homeless with nowhere to go, maybe India can then brag infront of you whilst your homeless, and don't say America would never nuke Canada, we all know how careless they are with weapons, do I need to state one time America f**ked up hard? ;)
While I don't exactly agree with Moose, that's just stupid, man.
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I wonder if that guy in the pic is Canadian too. :trust:
>implying Jacksonville is in Canada
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Hey, I don't mean to be all braggy, but if he wants to go ahead and call my lifestyle stupid he should know the facts about how high a quality it is. I should not be ridiculed because I have the capacity to work for whatever I want.
Only if you have the money it doesn't mean that you're life isn't stupid,as you say.
And since you are comparing Canada,Greece,America and India all I could say that Canada is one of the most boring, monotonous country in the world.
India got Taj Mahal,unique culture
Greece got the rich history
I dont even want to start on America :lol:
They are not all famous for there good works but you got the point.
All I could remember from Canada is couple of city's and Terence and Philip ,Ness and Flaken :D
Dont think I dislike Canada I mean I got a cup with Canadian flag on it,I have it for 12-13 years now and its the only one that made it trough the years :)
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,Ness and Flaken
Not even canadian
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They are something else,something new.
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A poor man, who earns 2USD a day's food costs only 20 cents. only 20 cents, a man, one meal. His vehicle, a standard bicycle costs just around 20-30 $ , which most of us spend during a day or even less.
A higher middle class man's Jeans costs around $70 and shoes around $120 (referring to myself I don't know about others)
But a poor man's pants costs only $5 and shoes even less.
But just because he's poor and buys cheap stuff doesn't mean he gets bad stuff, rough unusable stuff. Main sources of income in India is agriculture and manufacturing. Most of the stuff you see, Addidas, Nike, Puma, They all are made and assembled in India. Just about 70Kms. from my home in a village type area.
Said it all.
Judge a country's population by how they are having their needs satisfied, not by how generic they are and how close they are to typical USA copy. Oh wait...
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>implying Jacksonville is in Canada
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Jacksonville&country=CA (http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Jacksonville&country=CA)
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Now you're just being a smartass. That Jacksonville is some tiny village, while Moose obviously means about the Jacksonville in United States.
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http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Jacksonville&country=CA (http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Jacksonville&country=CA)
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yes because america would totally accidentally nuke it's ally to f**k up it's relations with the rest of the allies. makes perfect sense.
Yes, just like America 'accidentaly' supplied Saddam with weapons so they he could go on a slaughtering spree.
While I don't exactly agree with Moose, that's just stupid, man.
It was meant to be a stupid example. :razz: