Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Gimli on May 07, 2012, 12:59:17 am
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Have any of you tried out the Windows 8 Consumer or Developer previews yet? What are your thoughts? I've just installed it and so far it hasn't been a really good experience.
The native Windows 8 Metro apps are great, however as soon as I installed custom software, namely Google Chrome and Skype, my whole PC started bugging; First I couldn't see what I was typing in all text fields, then, when I tried going to the settings app, my PC froze on a nice Windows 8 logo screen..
A lot of people have been complaining about the new start menu (http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/336427-windows-8-windows-8-start-screen.jpg?thumb=y). Personally, I think it looks and works great and I like it. Once you get used to it, it should take less time to find a program you want to start rather than having to scroll through a huge list.
The app store is absolute rubbish and has been very poorly adapted to PC users. At first I didn't see the invisible scroll bar at the bottom of the screen, so I had to keep pressing the arrow buttons to see more categories.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BZSZRK_CT7o/T094oP0GkCI/AAAAAAAAMPI/KTJCcj7apn4/s1600/51412-img-2-51214.jpg)
Also, I can't understand the idea behind the startup logo at all. It looks like a logo designed for an OS for kindergarten age children. I guess a fish is the closest Microsoft can get to Leopards and Lions. :lol: The official logo (http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/New-Windows-8-Logo.jpg), on the other hand, looks quite nice, but I haven't seen it anywhere yet..
Posting this message before it crashes again.. :lame:
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told you that you should have stayed with Windows 7... :roll:
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Nah, I'm staying with Windows 8! The invisible text problem seems to have disappeared after I installed my graphics card drivers, so hopefully it won't come back..
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Windows 8 by reviews sounds as shite as Samsung's Bada OS.
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Okay, if it doesn't let me install a normal version of MSN I'm definitely going back to W7...
What kind of rubbish is this:
(http://i.imgur.com/6V0FO.png)
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lol
I was gonna triple boot with XP and 7, but on my XP there is n immovable fragment, so I cannot shrink the partition as much as I'd want to, so I'll just stick with XP and Windows 7 for now.
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Can't get MSN for Bada either.. So its just as crap. :redface:
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Turns out that you can still use the normal MSN!
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As a pro user, and due to the circumstances of my job, using Windows 8 just limits me, as well as my workspace. The constant pressing of the Windows key to get back to the menu with apps is annoying as heck and honestly, I prefer Apple's Lion movement and the use of spaces (and I know that it originated from *nix).
(http://sadpanda.us/images/950779-MY0G377.png)
EDIT: Also, the fact that Windows 8 will come in two flavors (Win8 and Win8 Pro), I am going to be forced into buying licenses for the Pro version due to the lack of group policies and domain join.
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EDIT: Also, the fact that Windows 8 will come in two flavors (Win8 and Win8 Pro), I am going to be forced into buying licenses for the Pro version due to the lack of group policies and domain join.
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Microsoft has done this since at least XP...
Anyways; I'd have to agree with Xcasio here, that new msn looks like crap. I guess the layout of everything will take some getting use too; I'll give the dev preview a feel I suppose in a few hours.
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As a pro user, and due to the circumstances of my job, using Windows 8 just limits me, as well as my workspace. The constant pressing of the Windows key to get back to the menu with apps is annoying as heck and honestly, I prefer Apple's Lion movement and the use of spaces (and I know that it originated from *nix).
(http://sadpanda.us/images/950779-MY0G377.png)
EDIT: Also, the fact that Windows 8 will come in two flavors (Win8 and Win8 Pro), I am going to be forced into buying licenses for the Pro version due to the lack of group policies and domain join.
Why would you pay for this shit? It looks like fucking Ubuntu which is free.
To me buying something from Apple is just saying "Look I have money you don't trolololol"
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The consumer version is an improved dev version with many bug fixes, don't install the dev version :conf:
As for OS X, that's purely a matter of preference. I've always had to use Macs at school and still hate them to this day. But please don't start a Mac vs Windows debate here...
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The consumer version is an improved dev version with many bug fixes, don't install the dev version :conf:
Thanks for the tip :P Downloading the ISO now :D
Why would you pay for this shit? It looks like f**king Ubuntu which is free.
& Ubuntu is linux, so its pro... if you know what your doing ofc :)
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Ubuntu is linux, so its pro... if you know what your doing ofc :)
Linux > Windows > Android > Apple's shit OS' like iOS, Lion etc.
Post Merge: May 07, 2012, 02:35:36 am
If windows follows it's patter
Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS
Windows 8 will be shit
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Why would you pay for this shit? It looks like f**king Ubuntu which is free.
To me buying something from Apple is just saying "Look I have money you don't trolololol"
I posted that picture from a Late 2008 Apple Macbook. The upgrade to Lion was $29.99... I really doubt that says I have money.
Microsoft has done this since at least XP...
Unfortunately. If only it was one size fits all... and disable/enable things you need or dont need.
The consumer version is an improved dev version with many bug fixes, don't install the dev version :conf:
As for OS X, that's purely a matter of preference. I've always had to use Macs at school and still hate them to this day. But please don't start a Mac vs Windows debate here...
/me being a typical mac-user: WINDOWS SUCKS! COME AT ME BRO!1!!1
Jokes aside, I'm better than that. I know for sure Windows exceeds in the enterprises (such as the one I work in). At my work place, we have around 30-40 servers that handle a lot of data and for sure 30 of them run Windows Server. The other 5 run Mac OS X Lion Server, and lastly we have one *nix server. Obviously, we were taught more on Windows-based computers. Our current hardware manager insists we use Windows and hates Mac fully (but uses an iPhone, what a hypocrite). Sadly, I, being only an analyst, cannot argue nor get him to see both sides, and it's not the salary difference ($150k/year hardware manager vs $45k/year analyst).
Aside from that, how is the multiple display support on Win8?
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If windows follows it's patter
Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS
Windows 8 will be shit
Windows Vista was a disgrace, even Microsoft admitted it :D Also, I think they need to hire* some new people to come up with the OS names, the people they have now are just lazy as fk.
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Our current hardware manager insists we use Windows and hates Mac fully (but uses an iPhone, what a hypocrite).
Sounds like me :lol:
Post Merge: May 07, 2012, 06:20:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/rtKTT.png)
What kind of smilies are these?!?!?
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(http://i.imgur.com/rtKTT.png)
What kind of smilies are these?!?!?
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nTNbimGCL-w/0.jpg)
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I've got a triple boot on my Mac (only left it in Holland)
OS X Lion (mostly used, music PC)
Linux (Ubuntu, for writing software :))
and Windows 7 --> going to 8 test.
Though, I prefer Vista and XP.
I've heared some good shit about W8, I hope it will work with my Macbook, if not, I'll never buy it :)
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Though, I prefer Vista
the fuck
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Though, I prefer Vista
the f**k
I'm disappointed.
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I prefer Vista
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lws5g1FB2a1qht847.gif)
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Though, I prefer Vista
WHAT THE FUCK? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91rPIq2mN4#)
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Just for reference
(http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/win7_pro_ultimate_features_rev2.jpg)
From: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/do-you-need-more-than-windows-7-home-premium/1128 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/do-you-need-more-than-windows-7-home-premium/1128)
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I remember when the Windows 7 beta was in it's first beta stage, it was buggy. I actually used it since it came and never stopped using it. Though I have my doubts about Windows 8, but can't open my mouth before I have tried it.
But I will wait for a full release before I will start to use it.
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The fact that windows 8 is faster than windows 7 is enough reason for me to replace it when it comes out. Plus it seems that it will boot way faster than windows 7. From what I've seen, I actually like the new lay-out, I haven't tried it out yet though but it looks like an improvement.
Sounds like me :lol:
Post Merge: May 07, 2012, 06:20:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/rtKTT.png)
What kind of smilies are these?!?!?
I actually think those emoticons are way better than the new ugly WLM emoticons. But that's just me I guess xD
I hope the messenger will have almost all features of WLM, that would be useful. But it may be that it will be a bare messenger and if you want more you can install WLM or something.
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Get Windows 8, they said.
It will be fun, they said.
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Is right that it's not a gaming OS?
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Windows 7 is very good. As the saying goes - do not fix what isn't broken.
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The fact that windows 8 is faster than windows 7 is enough reason for me to replace it when it comes out. Plus it seems that it will boot way faster than windows 7. From what I've seen, I actually like the new lay-out, I haven't tried it out yet though but it looks like an improvement.
When Windows 8 is released then you can tell if its better then 7 until then 7 is the boss.
Windows 7 is very good. As the saying goes - do not fix what isn't broken.
When your try to fix an OS that ain't broken you get Windows Longhorn (Vista for the ones slow on codenames)
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I've used it and I see that it would be a user friendly operating system... if I had a tablet, which I don't. I'm sticking with Windows 7 and Leopard/ Lion for now. I know that it has the normal desktop environment but it's not the default shell. I wish that the Metro UI could be disabled.
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Yes. Exactly. This is way to tablet orientated. It isn't that bad for desktops, but I'll be sticking with Windows 7.
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Yes. Exactly. This is way to tablet orientated. It isn't that bad for desktops, but I'll be stinking with Windows 7.
Sticking*? :lol:
I've been watching Windows 8 and it's not as bad as they first presented it to be. Keyboards and mice are still a standard second option for navigating on touchscreen systems, and obviously the primary on non-touchscreen ones too. The Metro GUI appears to also be the main GUI in the system, but the "Windows Classic" GUI is still available behind it for running other programs in an updated/modified version of the Windows 7 environment. All in all, not bad compared to their original plans. Merging tablets, netbooks, laptops, touchscreen computers, desktops, and their phone series isn't completely a bad idea. One day phones will be as powerful as desktop computers in basic senses, so they will likely all be using one OS one day, just as Microsoft is pushing right now for the uniformity of them.
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Sticking*? :lol:
I've been watching Windows 8 and it's not as bad as they first presented it to be. Keyboards and mice are still a standard second option for navigating on touchscreen systems, and obviously the primary on non-touchscreen ones too. The Metro GUI appears to also be the main GUI in the system, but the "Windows Classic" GUI is still available behind it for running other programs in an updated/modified version of the Windows 7 environment. All in all, not bad compared to their original plans. Merging tablets, netbooks, laptops, touchscreen computers, desktops, and their phone series isn't completely a bad idea. One day phones will be as powerful as desktop computers in basic senses, so they will likely all be using one OS one day, just as Microsoft is pushing right now for the uniformity of them.
Woops. Yeah.
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http://lifehacker.com/5841702/windows-8-speed-tests-its-faster-at-pretty-much-everything (http://lifehacker.com/5841702/windows-8-speed-tests-its-faster-at-pretty-much-everything)
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That is awesome! :D
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http://lifehacker.com/5841702/windows-8-speed-tests-its-faster-at-pretty-much-everything (http://lifehacker.com/5841702/windows-8-speed-tests-its-faster-at-pretty-much-everything)
No difference -,-
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Sticking*? :lol:
I've been watching Windows 8 and it's not as bad as they first presented it to be. Keyboards and mice are still a standard second option for navigating on touchscreen systems, and obviously the primary on non-touchscreen ones too. The Metro GUI appears to also be the main GUI in the system, but the "Windows Classic" GUI is still available behind it for running other programs in an updated/modified version of the Windows 7 environment. All in all, not bad compared to their original plans. Merging tablets, netbooks, laptops, touchscreen computers, desktops, and their phone series isn't completely a bad idea. One day phones will be as powerful as desktop computers in basic senses, so they will likely all be using one OS one day, just as Microsoft is pushing right now for the uniformity of them.
Desktops will always be faster, because you will always be able to fit more in a bigger area.
The only time mobile devices will be faster will be when they stop developing desktops for about 10 years, but that'll never happen, because people will always want powerful PCs, they may grow smaller, but then it will not be fair to compare 10 year old technology to modern kit.
An old P2 for example is probably slower than a Quad core Tesla, but the P2 is outdated, old, so comparing the two is unfair.
I totally agree with markab99, I reckon what they've done is simply reduced native support of drivers, so to get the correct drivers you'll need to download them. Probably a few other things as well, which theyclaim 'OMG, this is good, its on the cloud,' when actually, it's a downside.
Also, on the 3D Mark score the CPU score actually went down. This suggests to me that the graphics interface is simply lighter, and the program is less optimised in terms of processing.
Then again, it's still only a consumer preview, lets wait and see :D
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Well, to list some "features" that are going to be added (Directly copied from wikipedia but I have been following the news so I know it's correct):
Features:
Interesting features (IMHO):
-Metro Design ( I see this as a replacement for the start menu )
-Ability to sign in using a Microsoft account. This will allow for the user's profile and settings to be synchronized over the internet and accessible from other computers running Windows 8, as well as integration with SkyDrive. ( Useful to sync windows-related stuff. + Dropbox-like funcitonality. )
-Windows Explorer will include a ribbon toolbar, and have its file operation progress dialog updated to provide more detailed statistics, the ability to pause file transfers, and improvements in the ability to manage conflicts when copying files. ( I find the ribbon interface easier to use IMHO and the more detailed statistics is really useful, those file transfer windows bug me in windows 7. )
-Hybrid Boot will use "advanced hibernation functionality" on shutdown to allow faster startup times. ( A BIG plus. )
-Windows To Go will allow Windows 8 to boot and run from a bootable USB device (such as a flash drive).
-Two new recovery functions are included, Refresh and Reset. Refresh restores all Windows files to their original state while keeping settings, files, and Metro-style apps, while reset takes the computer back to factory default condition. ( Useful to reset stuff. )
-Native USB 3.0 support.
-New Windows Task Manager design. ( More statistics, really cool. )
-Storage Spaces will allow users to combine different sized hard disks into virtual drives and specify mirroring, parity, or no redundancy on a folder-by-folder basis.
-Family Safety will allow parents to protect their children on internet, as well as monitor and control their PC and internet activities and usage.
Less interesting features:
-A new lock screen.
-Xbox Live integration (including Xbox Live Arcade and Xbox Companion)
-Two new authentication methods: picture password, which allows users to log in by drawing three gestures in different places on a picture, and PIN log in, which allows users to authenticate using a four digit pin.
Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8)
I think the more detailed windows, the ribbon interface, the metro interface, the faster start up times and the feature to be easily able to restore windows 8 are good features to be using it instead.
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In my opinion skydrive is a pile of the brown stuff.
Why on earth would you want your data stored somewhere where you can physically reach it? It's a stupid idea imho, a memory stick is far quicker, safer and more reliable.
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Figured that I'd note that the boot screen in Windows 8 is one of a betta fish -- betta, beta, get it?
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http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-8-to-drop-aero-ui-for-desktop-1081981 (http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-8-to-drop-aero-ui-for-desktop-1081981)
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(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/244/851/78f.jpg)
Yeah... I'm not switching to Windows 8 anytime soon. I love the Aero UI, especially when I tweak it.
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http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-8-to-drop-aero-ui-for-desktop-1081981 (http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-8-to-drop-aero-ui-for-desktop-1081981)
They shall assume windows 3.0 Style again.
(http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/firstrun/win31-1-1.png)
That's hot sh*t, you can't deny it.
In all Seriousness, I agree with Link. I do not approve of the removal of this UI.
Figured that I'd note that the boot screen in Windows 8 is one of a betta fish -- betta, beta, get it?
(http://www.wallpaperfreehd.com/thumbnails/large_windows_7_fish_4795.jpeg)
Was also done in Windows 7, was the default wallpaper