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Title: Airsoft discussions
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 10, 2012, 05:14:32 pm: Simple enough, what do you prefer Airsoft or Paintball and why?

Also if you play Airsoft what loadouts do you use etc.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: nikos on May 11, 2012, 01:13:53 am: (http://www.kucapromet.com/smiledit/uploads/images/opekarije_cigla.jpg)

And you can not miss

I dont know why would someone stick with paintball after Airsoft was created,as someone said before me,its more realistic and that sums it up..
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Post by: Radagast on May 11, 2012, 02:03:46 am: Airsoft, just Airsoft. Come near me and I'll use some nades on ya.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 11, 2012, 04:10:10 am: Janek you havent considered I might not have to, M99 Snow Wolf >:)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: EliteTerm on May 11, 2012, 10:06:14 am: Airsoft. It's much better, realistic (aside from the real thing), and less messy than Paintball.

But the real thing's more fun :war:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on May 11, 2012, 10:16:51 am: As said alot of times allready, Airsoft.

I currently use a mixed up loadout, got Norwegian camo uniform, a random OD green swat vest..

For guns i use JG G36c and AGM MP40 as primary guns for secondary i got a WE P08 GBB Luger with few extra mags.

Planning on making a German ww2 camo kit, but allso considering getting a Russian Flora kit aswell.

Any of you have experience with the CYMA AK74mn cm040c?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Radagast on May 11, 2012, 12:52:51 pm: Quote from: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 11, 2012, 04:10:10 am
Janek you havent considered I might not have to, M99 Snow Wolf >:)

Shut up and go to sleep... with the fishes >:-D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on May 11, 2012, 11:25:00 pm: Haven't played paintball yet but airsoft is bloody great fun, and the equipment is so much more realistic so, AIRSOFT FTW.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 11, 2012, 11:37:27 pm: @Janek: I was expecting you to say sheep instead of fishes C:

@shitix: I've been shot by it but I only use these two currently. I do strongly suggest the one I used to use the AKM

(http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/M99-Snow-Wolf-Barrett-Sniper-Rifle-C-W-Scope-Tan_700_600_3E0JV.jpg)
Snow wolf M99 - Mines in Black

(http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/SRC-G36KSK-Gen-II-Airsoft-Gun_700_600_3TSWZ.jpg)
SRC G36K G2
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on May 11, 2012, 11:48:27 pm: Quote from: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 11, 2012, 11:37:27 pm
@Janek: I was expecting you to say sheep instead of fishes C:
Indeed, male sheep. :rofl: :banana:

Nice kit, I haven't got any guns or equipment just yet, but I'm getting a Glock 19 tomorrow, then I'll save up for an M4 or something, and my ultimate goal is to get an SA80 L85 Carbine and a P226 (jizzed, in my pants). :m4:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 12, 2012, 12:51:59 am: LSW, AFV or Just plain ol'

http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L86-A2-LSW-Steel-Body_AQHR5.aspx?nh=124121 (http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L86-A2-LSW-Steel-Body_AQHR5.aspx?nh=124121)

http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-New-Version-Steel-Body_AREM8.aspx?nh=124121 (http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-New-Version-Steel-Body_AREM8.aspx?nh=124121)

http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-AFV-Steel-Body_AQHQY.aspx?nh=124121 (http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-AFV-Steel-Body_AQHQY.aspx?nh=124121)

Do you have UKARA?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Jack Rosso on May 12, 2012, 01:05:36 am: Airsoft! I love the realism which i dont feel with paintball.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Alsatian on May 12, 2012, 01:32:02 am: Went paintball once, was really good fun. Never been airsoft though, but from what I've heard it's a lot better as others have stated.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on May 12, 2012, 02:08:29 am: Quote from: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 12, 2012, 12:51:59 am
LSW, AFV or Just plain ol'

http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L86-A2-LSW-Steel-Body_AQHR5.aspx?nh=124121 (http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L86-A2-LSW-Steel-Body_AQHR5.aspx?nh=124121)

http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-New-Version-Steel-Body_AREM8.aspx?nh=124121 (http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-New-Version-Steel-Body_AREM8.aspx?nh=124121)

http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-AFV-Steel-Body_AQHQY.aspx?nh=124121 (http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/Ares-L85-A2-AFV-Steel-Body_AQHQY.aspx?nh=124121)

Do you have UKARA?
Well the first one is the L86 so no, the second one is the rifle, which is one I might get but the third one... Aww looks f*cking awesome so yeah maybe the AFV.
And no nearly a skirmisher but need to be over 18 to acquire a UKARA license.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Aldo on May 12, 2012, 07:03:51 am: (http://i39.tinypic.com/30m2zro.jpg)

The ones with the orange tip are airsoft (leaves marks)
The one without it is CO2 (makes muthafucks bleed)

As elite said, real is always better :)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Jordan_Collin on May 12, 2012, 07:08:54 am: (http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5377/18711284.png)

Oh yes, my ak47, i stick this up ppls ass and shoot it! i dm all irl
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on May 12, 2012, 01:53:28 pm: With real steel you cant shoot other friends and still laugh about it :roll:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on May 12, 2012, 05:58:51 pm: Depends who you shoot.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: zater112 on May 12, 2012, 06:02:28 pm: Airsoft.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: inanfener on May 16, 2012, 10:22:49 am: Airsoft!
I have EKOL ES66, Using CO2
4.5 Cal. 400+ FPS, steel ball throwing!
(Made in Turkey, Not China or..)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg143/scaled.php?server=143&filename=dsc02999j.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Jack Rosso on May 16, 2012, 11:59:58 pm: Nice, nice!

Too bad The Netherlands is the only country in Europe not allowing airsoft...

(ikr..)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Mikal on May 17, 2012, 02:06:09 pm: Quote from: inanfener on May 16, 2012, 10:22:49 am
Airsoft!
I have EKOL ES66, Using CO2
4.5 Cal. 400+ FPS, steel ball throwing!
(Made in Turkey, Not China or..)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg143/scaled.php?server=143&filename=dsc02999j.jpg&res=landing)
Wow, that looks very realistic.

I think paintball is better, more pain, however I've never been shot by an airsoft gun, I did get shot by 60 paintballs in a row by a friend who thought it would be funny whilst we were at a paintballing trip from school back in the day. :razz:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 17, 2012, 02:35:39 pm: Is $300+ really the lowest price for an airsoft gun?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Mikal on May 17, 2012, 04:53:24 pm: Puppi did a poopi.
And no it depends on what gun your buying + the realisticness of it or what it's made of.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 17, 2012, 04:56:03 pm: Quote from: Mikal on May 17, 2012, 04:53:24 pm
Puppi did a poopi.
And no it depends on what gun your buying + the realisticness of it or what it's made of.
Any website with some decent priced guns?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Aldo on May 17, 2012, 05:24:37 pm: Quote from: crook on May 17, 2012, 02:35:39 pm
Is $300+ really the lowest price for an airsoft gun?

Higher the price the higher the quality but not always.
If your new to airsoft get a cheap spring gun for around $20 to get use to it, then go for a CO2 gun either non blowback like mine ore blowback like inanfener's

Quote from: Mikal on May 17, 2012, 02:06:09 pm
Wow, that looks very realistic.

I think paintball is better, more pain, however I've never been shot by an airsoft gun, I did get shot by 60 paintballs in a row by a friend who thought it would be funny whilst we were at a paintballing trip from school back in the day. :razz:
That realism(The blowblack action) comes at a performance cost(lower FPS)

Paintball is not more pain. Shoot your friends with my CO2 gun or inanfener's CO2 gun and watch the BB penetrate and make them bleed.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 17, 2012, 07:29:36 pm: I've seen a blokes goggles cracked by an Airsoft gun, Ive never seen any injury in paintball. I will get a picture of my G36 on the pool table later, its in pieces due to the reconstruction its going through.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 17, 2012, 07:38:14 pm: Quote from: Aldo on May 17, 2012, 05:24:37 pm
Higher the price the higher the quality but not always.
If your new to airsoft get a cheap spring gun for around $20 to get use to it, then go for a CO2 gun either non blowback like mine ore blowback like inanfener's
Cool, will check it out.

Quote from: Jack-willfield on May 16, 2012, 11:59:58 pm
Nice, nice!

Too bad The Netherlands is the only country in Europe not allowing airsoft...

(ikr..)
What's your point?
Are you saying Dutch police checks people for that? Just use it without being seen ;).
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Reece on May 17, 2012, 09:23:55 pm: Paintball is a really fun day out imo.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 17, 2012, 09:32:36 pm: Quote from: Reece. on May 17, 2012, 09:23:55 pm
Paintball is a really fun day out imo.
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Dont get me wrong paintballs fun but you cant employ tactics or form a strategy and everyones looks the same its only shock and awe hence why I prefer Airsoft. Tactics, variation.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Julio. on May 17, 2012, 09:34:41 pm: Paintball

Airsoft is 'playing at soldiers,' wanna shoot a realistic gun? Join the Army.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 17, 2012, 10:03:16 pm: Lets get a few things clear here

#1 If I want to shoot a real gun I'll go to my local gunclub

#2 The Army is not like COD, I know people who have gone through whole tours without shooting their Rifle
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Wolfe on May 19, 2012, 02:27:49 am: Quote from: joedaman633 on May 17, 2012, 09:34:41 pm
Paintball

Airsoft is 'playing at soldiers,' wanna shoot a realistic gun? Join the Army.

Some people want to enjoy some combat environment without the dying part you know ^^
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Jack Rosso on May 19, 2012, 04:03:41 am: Quote from: crook on May 17, 2012, 07:38:14 pm
Cool, will check it out.
What's your point?
Are you saying Dutch police checks people for that? Just use it without being seen ;).

Infact, yes, police do check people for it.
Im able to give you countless of news items, there even yearly gather days which people are able to give their weapons such as knifes & airsoft to the police without getting an punishment for it.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on May 22, 2012, 11:42:33 pm: Quote from: joedaman633 on May 17, 2012, 09:34:41 pm
Paintball

Airsoft is 'playing at soldiers,' wanna shoot a realistic gun? Join the Army.
Paintball as in pro paintball is basicly matches that lasts for like 2 minutes, rush indeed. And most paintball guns aint magazine fed unless you get a RAM.. Wich kinda sucks sometimes.

Airsoft is more Military Simulation, guns are realistic (specialy some of them GBB rifles) and people use either some mixed up uniforms shaped after your wallet, and you have them kitwhores who's got a full combat uniform..

Anyway, you dont choose airsoft because you want to shoot a realistic gun or kill people, its because it is a social sport (like paintball) where you can shoot other players and laugh about it, yet having it being "realistic" military combat game.

I just got my MP40 fixed, quickly noticed that 300 rounds in a match is waay to little rather then when i borrowed an AKm with shitloads of ammo O:

How about share some pictures of kits or skirmish games? :D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on May 23, 2012, 02:32:29 am: Aye, got a game sunday.. I'll try get some pics
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on May 28, 2012, 02:38:47 pm: Me to, hopefully, going CQB airsofting in bristol next sunday, or the rock in portland, dunno yet :neutral:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on May 31, 2012, 02:30:48 pm: Wasent able to go to skirmish last sunday, but i am most likley going this one so i will try throw up wome pictures ;D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: boostboy on May 31, 2012, 02:35:03 pm: I'm an airsoft player, its more realistic then paintball..

As for layout, i use a 1911 Handgun CO based; mp5 single/burst/auto, with build in gas suply, 2 'grenades'.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Jack Rosso on June 09, 2012, 09:07:42 pm: Quote from: Doggi on May 31, 2012, 02:35:03 pm
I'm an airsoft player, its more realistic then paintball..

As for layout, i use a 1911 Handgun CO based; mp5 single/burst/auto, with build in gas suply, 2 'grenades'.

What do you wear?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on July 12, 2012, 07:41:40 pm: Thought i'd show my loadout of guns

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/330826_421680094539847_252271038_o.jpg)

Going to order an AK74mn and a russian uniform :)
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Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on July 13, 2012, 12:03:37 am: Very Impressive, well kept too. Is the Luger GBB if so I'd like a review

Lastly if you're looking into an AK47 I would suggest the G&G RK47
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Julio. on July 13, 2012, 12:08:45 am: Why not just go in old clothes? ._.

Like to play dress-up? :devroll:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on July 13, 2012, 12:42:53 am: majority of people who play airsoft play for the realism over paintball, hence why most are kit whores... such as myself.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on July 13, 2012, 12:14:47 pm: In the club i play with there is a must to have camo clothing, because sometimes wild tourists appears on the field, dont want to confuse them with us..

It's a WE GBB Luger, full metal, the only exeption is the grip plate wich is plastic, but it feels quite good. Since it's metal it gets quickly cold, so its best for use at days with hig temprature, or else you may experience missfeeding. It's allso very easy to disassemble and adjust hopup on. The most known problem with the gun is the magazines, since its quite old it has been a while on the warehouse, wich causes the o-rings to start leaking after a while. 2/3 magazines works fine for me. And if its not too warm outside when you play with it, i'd recomend to hold the magazine in your hand heating it 1-2 min before the match. Not much more i can say tho.

I got recomended a Cyma ak74mn by the club (yes all of them got one) It's the best AK on the market for that price class, and they have alot of experience with diffrent guns
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on July 13, 2012, 04:00:43 pm: I have no experience with Cyma AK's so I cant suggest it, I went for the RK47 because of its electrical Blowback, dont have to worry about Gas and such.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 06, 2012, 12:54:58 am: Me at todays skirmish, the new AK works great, got 7 kills with it ;D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268653_429643607076829_702434930_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 06, 2012, 09:17:43 pm: Seems I have another target Blue scum! Whats the Tacvest you're using?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 07, 2012, 05:16:04 pm: Doom on you red targets! The chestrig isnt mine so i'm not completley sure, but it looks like the Pantac LBT AK rigg, it has 4 double ak magpuches so you can carry 8 mags with you, it's deffinatley something to recomend, chest rigs just feels alot better then vests somehow :D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 07, 2012, 05:19:28 pm: I'm using a Blackhawk tacvest [Pic uploading] currently but I'm looking into getting a Russian made rig due to my plans for a future kit
Post Merge: August 07, 2012, 05:46:17 pm
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u516/N_Pskov/IMG_0742-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 07, 2012, 09:52:16 pm: What kind of kit are you going for? I'm going to get started on a russian kit, partizan camo gorka. Looks like this:

(http://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/partizan_6.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 08, 2012, 01:36:05 am: If you look in that photo its a Variant of my Tacvest, but I'm going for a Russian PMC kit, I need to find a rig which can hold SVD mags, this is proving to be a difficulty in the UK. Something like this

(http://blog.beezcombatsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SVD-chest-rig-10-mag-load-out-300x250.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 08, 2012, 08:43:03 pm: A guy in the airsoft club uses a russian sniper kit, i can hear about his rig if you're intressed (yes i do mean the SVD ;D)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 08, 2012, 08:54:22 pm: Would be nice :D, I came across another problem... Finding a bag to put said SVD in.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on August 10, 2012, 05:36:08 am: Me getting shot on the base of my middle finger, whilst signalling that I am 'hit' after getting shot in the face! you can see the red mark below my glasses

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/553900_247039152065116_1630154965_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 10, 2012, 06:10:24 pm: You look like you're doing some kind of hand gesture :D. Everyone seems to have the same style tacvest also, but anyway where was that taken?
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on August 12, 2012, 01:53:01 am: I was, it was "aww you fucker, I'm HIT!!!"

Wasen't mine, was borrowing the vest from a mate, but I'll buy it off him for Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 :D

That was at spartan airsoft at Bristol, right at the end of the runway, the jets proved to be great cover to shoot.

Lots of welsh ppl there too Nathan.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 12, 2012, 02:25:54 am: I'll see about going there some time.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Bradley_Hood on August 12, 2012, 12:29:15 pm: I'll let you know when I'm going first.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 12, 2012, 03:00:15 pm: I'll be going to a game next sunday, try get some pics
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Mashgash on August 12, 2012, 03:05:38 pm: Airsoft with ghille suit!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Hires_2010-10-20-081038c.jpg/300px-Hires_2010-10-20-081038c.jpg)

I don't have one but I have planned to make one for a looong time! :D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 12, 2012, 06:34:13 pm: You're not the only one, I'm trying to find a ghille poncho to go over my kit.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 12, 2012, 07:23:13 pm: To be honnest i dont like them pull over ghillies, they stick to everything (yeah i tried) But it works as long you got the correct version, those ghillies you fasten to your jacket like a cape is much better, when your hiding you lie down at the stomach, so you wont need ghillie there anyway ;D

Was at a game today and i forgot to take some photos, but i gotta say, reddot on the AK74m is not bad at all, would recomend everyone who can to get one ;P
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 12, 2012, 07:32:08 pm: I'd love a few matches of airsoft once in a while, sadly it's illegal in the Netherlands and therefore there's no occasions to do so nearby. Wehrmacht M41 uniform with Stahlhelm and an MP40, like Johnny. :cool:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 12, 2012, 08:04:15 pm: I'm using a basic kit currently, Black BDU with a Tan Tacvest (Picture in the topic somewhere), I'll be changing the blacks to a Multicam UBACS shirt and Combats.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 12, 2012, 08:17:10 pm: Thing most people do wrong nowdays in woodland skirmishes is to use black vests or overalls, its like wearing an orange shirt and shouting "I'm over here!" :P 3-4 guys had that at the skirmish today, took 'em out quite fast as they were easily spottet :P Natural colors is allmost a must, doesent have to be much, a plain OD BDU works just fine :P

Currently i'm using the AK74mn, it has 410fps compared to the MP40 that has just under 300fps :P
Going for a soviet partizan camo gorka (pretty much a copy of the old Waffen SS camoflage type.)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 12, 2012, 08:39:20 pm: Quote from: shitix on August 12, 2012, 08:17:10 pm
Going for a soviet partizan camo gorka (pretty much a copy of the old Waffen SS camoflage type.)

Except the Waffen SS camouflage is original and looks slightly better. Don't disappoint me, son. :gand:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 12, 2012, 09:48:03 pm: Quote from: Salmonella on August 12, 2012, 08:39:20 pm
Except the Waffen SS camouflage is original and looks slightly better. Don't disappoint me, son. :gand:
Indeed, but then comes the price and the quality, the ss camo is expensive and only replica (meaning quality isnt as good as the original ones) The Partizan camo is orginal and has an acceptable price. Good quality, looks pretty much like same with a little more modernised design ;) However if i have Soviet Gorka i only need to get m40 tunic to have two complete kits ;D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Josh_White on August 12, 2012, 10:00:04 pm: Well , this whole airsoft seems interesting for me, and i was looking around for weapons + gear.. but before i gona buy something i would like to get an opinion about one weapon wich is :

Colt M4 Navy Commando - Schmeisser AR-15 Tactical

(http://www.power24server.de/bp-files/v2_Schmeisser_AR-15_Tactical_g.jpg)

with energy of 0,5 joule it cost 65 Euro , Do you think its enough to start with Airsoft?

Cause i dont really want to spend shitload of money for something that i havent done yet :P
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: shitix on August 12, 2012, 11:03:04 pm: That my friend is just a waste of cash, sorry but its the truth :P You should get something that costs a little bit more then so. And you should allso look for guns with arround 1 joule or more (100m/s). AGM, A&K, JG and G&G has some decent nice starter AEGs.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 13, 2012, 12:43:37 am: You'd be better off finding a site that rents equipment out firstly.
Also Shitix I hate you, over here the AEG Limit is 380, Snipers are upto 500.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 02:02:15 am: Quote from: shitix on August 12, 2012, 09:48:03 pm
Indeed, but then comes the price and the quality, the ss camo is expensive and only replica (meaning quality isnt as good as the original ones) The Partizan camo is orginal and has an acceptable price. Good quality, looks pretty much like same with a little more modernised design ;) However if i have Soviet Gorka i only need to get m40 tunic to have two complete kits ;D

That's true. Original Waffen SS and Wehrmacht tunics of just regular soldiers in good condition costs at least 700 euros. Not to mention that higher ranks sometimes hit 25000 euros on eBay. But then again, it'd be a shame to wear those in airsoft battles, where they have a chance of getting dirty and messed up. They were worn by true heroes in most cases and over 70 years old, true war relics of the ( to me ) most intriguing war known to mankind. Something we'll never witness again in first person, wheter we'd want to or not. Anyways, to get back to the subject; original uniforms shouldn't be exposed to risks that you'll find in, for example, airsoft battles. Reenactment would be fine, to an extent. I personally own an authentic M41 tunic. Some say it's a replica, others say it's real. If it'd be a replica, it'd be a really old one, and if it'd be a real one, it would've been custom-made at a taylor. I would never expose it to the risks of damaging it, though.

I'd also like to point out that there are A LOT of replica companies that produce German WWII equipment and clothing availible. From Italia to the ''original factories'' in Germany (which apperently hasn't stopped making them). The quality varies. My drillich tunic doesn't have the lining inside of the jacket that you'd find in the wool jackets. I don't know if any drillich tunics had these linings at all, but if mine's a replica, it's a damn good one, despite the fact that it doesn't have these nice linings. The quality on mine is just superb and I believe it was made in Germany. I'm sure if you were actually looking for quality replicas, you'd find them. There's plenty availible, from cheap to superb quality.

But then again, I don't know how tolerant the Norwegian citizen is to fans of the Third Reich's military sector in general. In the Netherlands, there's enough tolerance for there to be at least three very professional and crowded reenactment groups, however, I know that it differs a lot in countries. I haven't seen a reenactment group in France, just to give an example. If there's enough tolerance in your airsoft group, then why not go for it? They were designed by Hugo Boss and they look far superior to any other country's uniforms I've ever seen. By the way, if you're not Johnny, keep in mind that we're both fans of the German WWII Wehrmacht. militarily speaking. If the Russian stuff would go with an M40 tunic aswell, then you could indeed combine the two and have two different sets using stuff from, primarily, one of them. After all, it doesn't have to be extremely accurate in airsoft. It's not like you're actually reenacting a Wehrmacht or Waffen SS soldier in airsoft. :D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 13, 2012, 02:28:56 am: I own a few original Soviet parade uniforms personally, considering getting a commissar uniform for winter games, currently my savings are going to one of these...
(http://www.soviet-uniforms.com/items/_110/110_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 02:32:15 am: What do these go for nowadays? I have a few Soviet/DDR officer caps, which I bought for 10 euros each. Soviet stuff tends to be the cheapest in terms of price nowadays. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 13, 2012, 04:53:08 am: Quote from: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 02:32:15 am
What do these go for nowadays? I have a few Soviet/DDR officer caps, which I bought for 10 euros each. Soviet stuff tends to be the cheapest in terms of price nowadays. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Show me the caps, I'll value them for you, they go for anywhere between 10 to as much a 900 euros.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 02:23:15 pm: Two of these:

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7384/dsc04118l.jpg)

But really? 900 euros for regular soviet/ddr visor caps? I can imagine an original general cap costing that much, but I've never heard of prices like these for regular caps. After all, it's not German. :D
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 13, 2012, 03:03:28 pm: That is not Soviet, its an east German army peaked cap unfortunately they're only worth about 15 to 30 dollars each. Thats if they are both in good condition.

P.S. Theres a bloke at the Airsoft site I play at who uses a WW2 German loadout, thought you might like the pic.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405434_489100781100083_1882279214_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 03:11:14 pm: Well, I consider the DDR to be Soviet controlled, so yeah.

That's a nice picture. Waffen SS tunic, can be recognized by the shoulder pats and the emblem on his arm. M43 cap; I have one of these, but just Wehrmacht, not Waffen SS. And yeah, that's a replica (my cap).
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 13, 2012, 03:16:57 pm: Surely you could add the patches by hand? I've done that with me great coat and it pays off.
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 03:21:24 pm: Of course. I'm just saying that his tunic was made so that it looks like a Waffen SS tunic. There is a difference between the SS and Wehrmacht tunics, originally, but these are so minor that in reenactment they don't look at them.

Also, is he lefthanded? :razz:
Title: Re: Airsoft or Paintball?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 13, 2012, 03:28:47 pm: Indeed like myself, bolt actions can be a bad girl a times but eh,

P.S. Changed topic name due to this is purely Airsoft stuff now.

Also who was after Russian camo?
www.soviet-propaganda.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_24 (http://www.soviet-propaganda.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_24)
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on August 13, 2012, 04:40:53 pm: Gorka E Summer, thats the one i'm going to order as soon i get my paycheck from work ;D

In Norway there is about 20-30 WW2 airsoft reenactors (at the offical airsoft forums atleast) The catch with having a ww2 german kit is that no symbols is allowed. Some of the leader in the club doesent see anything bad in it as we're just playing airsoft, others think otherwise, i cant do nothing else then respect their views etc.. So the plan was mainly to get the Soviet Partizan camo, use the trousers as "SS" and buy a Norwegian M52 uniform tunic (sligthly upgraded German M40 tunic) That way i'll have a "look-a-like" German kit, and a Soviet kit ;)

In Norway the FPS limit for AEG's with no saftey distance is 400fps, mine is 410.. So i got 10m saftey distance. Bolt action sniper rifles is 700fps .. now that rifle is terrifying..
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: Salmonella on August 13, 2012, 05:41:23 pm: Johnny, check this out:

http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?id=9069 (http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?id=9069)

It's an M43 SS wool tunic, for 70 pounds. Not too expensive, if you ask me. Soldiers of Fortune has always offered good quality tunics, and I'm sure that if you're going to make a Waffen SS kit, this would be the perfect base. The Norwegian tunic has no chance against that tunic. :D

Goodluck with the kits, and check out that website for other stuff too. Reasonable prices and good quality.
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on August 18, 2012, 09:00:40 pm: Exept from pockets, the norwegian one is pretty much same without the ss shoulderboards (SS is black, this one is fieldgrey aka Heer) And it comes for half the price of the M43, allso gotta add 25% to the M43 because of taxes in norway.. Not going for authentic, just the looks, most people dont see diffrence on any of the german army's uniforms, so its not that bad ;D
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on August 18, 2012, 09:09:46 pm: Does anyone know a website where I can order airsoft guns?
Now I'm not talking about the advanced replicas, but more the affordable ones.
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on August 18, 2012, 09:23:43 pm: Redwolfairsoft.com and Wgcshop.com are the ones i mostly use, there are tonns of diffrent sites out there :P
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on August 18, 2012, 11:35:53 pm: check your countries shipping and customs laws before you order, I was held in custody at an airport because of that once.
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on September 23, 2012, 08:38:38 pm: Been a while now, thought i'd show some from today's skirmish :) I didnt die once even once! My team won all the matches exept the last match where i was too tired to join the match.. pro maybe? :)

I'vr got the AK74mn

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/561865_10151096162839160_1296106966_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264045_10151096162339160_2119345143_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560313_10151096173279160_2134724970_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427806_10151096174854160_994918139_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/282012_10151096177554160_1447693863_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: ~Legend~ on September 24, 2012, 11:06:30 pm: For me, it's down to how it is organised and played. I've done both, but there are some pretty good paintballing centres near me, so been many times with friends and tried different game styles.

I find it's a really good group activity.
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on November 04, 2012, 11:12:15 pm: It's a great sport with groups of friends :) We had a day on school where we played paintball, it was fun untill we played against the "trouble makers" class, they never took hits, eventho they were coloured red and blue by all the hits ..

you guys are pretty dead nowdays arround here so i'll throw up my new uniform here
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560427_454762021231654_1173103361_n.jpg)

ANA Partizan summer uniform, really light weight uniform but its pretty cool. AK's a beast, best buy ever. The vest isnt a "correct" vest, so i ordered a SPOSN Smersh AK vest, gonna be awsome with full russian kit :D
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: PulseEffect on November 06, 2012, 05:36:04 am: Not a fan but I vouch for Airsoft.
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on November 18, 2012, 11:23:34 am: bumping it up again :D

Recieved my new Smersh rig and still experimenting for my own best setup :)
My russian kit is allmost complete now, just need a shovel and a messkit ;)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408044_465928563448333_1510105123_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: Xavier12 on November 18, 2012, 11:26:50 am: Quote from: shitix on November 18, 2012, 11:23:34 am
bumping it up again :D

Recieved my new Smersh rig and still experimenting for my own best setup :)
My russian kit is allmost complete now, just need a shovel and a messkit ;)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408044_465928563448333_1510105123_n.jpg)
Where do you buy these guns??Dude get me 1 too.
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: shitix on November 18, 2012, 11:32:10 am: I got mine from wgcshop.com , if you order you gotta check with your country customs etc to avoid troubles with them :)
Title: Re: Airsoft discussions
Post by: Xavier12 on November 22, 2012, 04:08:04 pm: May be i got better than you....+I got real ak47 with 260+ incendiary rounds!!

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2dkacuo.jpg)

Sorry,the quality got worst!