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Title: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 24, 2012, 08:58:28 pm
Debate. What do you think of the semi finals, the nations that have been elected to the finals and those who will compete in today's second semi-finals. Which countries are those with potential and which countries are totally miserable this year?
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Clive on May 24, 2012, 09:36:12 pm
Croatia and Macedonia, they are good.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Dolfagr on May 24, 2012, 10:44:32 pm
I only liked Romania so far, they're good and ofcourse Greece / Cyprus for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Cofiliano on May 25, 2012, 05:45:54 am
(http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/greece/images/greece-flag.jpg)

End of story, lock.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Dolfagr on May 25, 2012, 09:49:03 am
Cofi is in love with our girl and I shall not blame him  :razz:
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 25, 2012, 02:05:36 pm
Estonia and Turkey, period.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gandalf on May 25, 2012, 02:16:57 pm
Nobody can beat Russian grannies. Literally, they could beat security...
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 25, 2012, 02:26:43 pm
Sweden is likely going to win.
The current Eurovision crowd loves simple techno more than anything.
Serbia is also a great candidate this year, along with Russia.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Michele_Noord on May 25, 2012, 02:53:45 pm
Yup I think Sweden is going to win. She've got an amazing voice. Althought I think Russia is going to come far aswell.
But Tuesday the firts semi-finals, most of them songs were bad. Second semi-final they were like all good.
Greece got also an awesome song and Serbia aswell. However I'll vote for Azerbaijan. <3
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 25, 2012, 03:01:40 pm
I'll be honest, I thought this whole Russia thing was sarcasm first ... oh I was so wrong.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gimli on May 25, 2012, 03:23:26 pm
Didn't watch it this year. It's become a politics show (or always has been) rather a song contest. Or, in the case of Romania, a hotness contest...

The only songs I liked were Denmark's Soluna Samay - Should've Known Better and Hungary's Compact Disco - Sound of our Hearts.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Dolfagr on May 25, 2012, 03:26:58 pm
Didn't watch it this year. It's become a politics show (or always has been) rather a song contest. Or, in the case of Romania, a hotness contest...

It was always like that, neighbour countries voting for each other (Scandinavia, Baltics, Iberia, Balkans etc.)

However I'll vote for Azerbaijan. <3

I never vote, most of the times the vote never goes where it's supposed to be, besides it costs  :(
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Mashgash on May 25, 2012, 03:30:16 pm
Loreen - Euphoria HQ (Sweden Eurovision Song Contest 2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4PMQB5zmAU#ws)

Sweden will win :roll: Probaly one of the best singers we have sent in ages, finally some quality.. Although it could have been better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFYpDf_6rKA#ws).

I laughed at Slovakia (no offence) but his voice was scratch :lol:
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 25, 2012, 03:32:10 pm
Something that still bugs me -no offense towards anyone who comes from the Balkan- no matter whether Eurovision groups or football groups is that balkan countries take too many spots while most of the time they don't even get through, or if they do, then because the neighboured countries vote for eachother and for nobody else who really had the potential to be in the finals.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 25, 2012, 03:58:12 pm
Something that still bugs me -no offense towards anyone who comes from the Balkan- no matter whether Eurovision groups or football groups is that balkan countries take too many spots while most of the time they don't even get through, or if they do, then because the neighboured countries vote for eachother and for nobody else who really had the potential to be in the finals.
Name a Balkan country that didn't deserve to go trough.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 25, 2012, 04:15:11 pm
Macedonia, Croatia and Serbia.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Michele_Noord on May 25, 2012, 04:17:32 pm
What I think Serbia was good and it was already in the favourites before he performed, so I think you are not right about that one. Althought it's still your opinion. I think Serbia got also a good chance to win or get in the top list.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 25, 2012, 04:36:00 pm
Macedonia, Croatia and Serbia.
Funny, no offense to anyone from Turkey either, but I think that Macedonia Croatia and Serbia all had better performances than Turkey.
You say that the Balkan countries are scratching each others backs but what about Turkey?
They are asskissing Azerbaijan to go through.
Again, no offense, just pointing out the facts.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Thomas_A on May 25, 2012, 05:46:07 pm
HD Eurovision 2012 Estonia: Ott Lepland - Kuula (Semi-Final 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX6kBIVCQ-4#ws)

One of few songs that doesnt speak about love or w/e, like most of songs does.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Cofiliano on May 25, 2012, 06:03:22 pm
Something that still bugs me -no offense towards anyone who comes from the Balkan- no matter whether Eurovision groups or football groups is that balkan countries take too many spots while most of the time they don't even get through, or if they do, then because the neighboured countries vote for eachother and for nobody else who really had the potential to be in the finals.
How exactly does Balkan countries 'vote' for each other in football groups? You made no sence..

As for Eurovision, if it wasn't for you Ottomans, Balkan would have 3-4 big countries, now we got 20, so blame yourself. :razz:

Also, its not the countries that vote for each other, since less then 15 years ago we were killing each other and people are still hating, its the minorities in those countries who vote for their homeland. I mean Serbs in example, live in Montenegro, Bosnia, Macedonia, Croatia, in some of them they're even majorities.
And also believe me, I would accept being constantly last in Eurosong for the next 300 years, if it was for my people to live in a United Serbia again.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Dolfagr on May 25, 2012, 08:05:31 pm
Anyone else remembers this guy?  :lol:

Eurovision 2008 Final - Spain - Rodolfo Chikilicuatre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHOMbHbOEg#)

Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 25, 2012, 08:06:24 pm
Anyone else remembers this guy?  :lol:

Eurovision 2008 Final - Spain - Rodolfo Chikilicuatre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHOMbHbOEg#)
I do, boss. :cool:
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Michele_Noord on May 25, 2012, 08:31:14 pm
Anyone else remembers this guy?  :lol:

Eurovision 2008 Final - Spain - Rodolfo Chikilicuatre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHOMbHbOEg#)
:rofl:I do
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 25, 2012, 09:17:35 pm
To Stefano : I respect your opinion, but no, we are not and that is why -I'm sure- we'll not even be in the top 10 of the finals.

Cof : You're just so stupid that you have to equivocate and mix shit into other shit. You don't get my point. You keep turning simple thoughts into hatre and a reason to turn this into a dispute. Why won't you just ... you know ... become less madje ?

Dolf, how about this one? I'm sure this is the highlight of the past decades (refering to 1:22 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-VMHOlCyW8#t=83s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-VMHOlCyW8#t=83s)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Dolfagr on May 26, 2012, 12:27:32 am
Dolf, how about this one? I'm sure this is the highlight of the past decades (refering to 1:22 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-VMHOlCyW8#t=83s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-VMHOlCyW8#t=83s)

Haha, suprisingly I hadn't noticed this guy was on Eurovision, but ofcourse I have seen him before in DeeJay's avatar, damn funny  :D
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Witchking on May 26, 2012, 09:52:18 am
Sweden wins this time
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Michele_Noord on May 26, 2012, 01:36:55 pm
Sweden wins this time

I agree with you on that one. Her voice is amazing!
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Witchking on May 26, 2012, 07:56:11 pm
I agree with you on that one. Her voice is amazing!

take a look at this song, she is awesome  ;)

Loreen - Sober (Inofficial 2012 Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_cv4SVXrYg#ws)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Michele_Noord on May 26, 2012, 07:58:53 pm
Omg she is indeed awesome! Love that song


1 hour left till the finals :D
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 26, 2012, 08:08:33 pm
Eurovision 2004 Serbia & Montenegro (Final) - Željko Joksimović & Ad Hoc Orchestra - Lane moje (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BhIaLuqX0k#)

Zeljko in 2004.
Gonna vouch for this dude.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Reece on May 26, 2012, 10:57:14 pm
Serbia's entry sounds very similar to Paradise by Coldplay... At least, parts of the melody.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gandalf on May 26, 2012, 11:06:26 pm
The Russian grannies had a lot of support from the crowd. Sure they are not the best voices but they are showing real spirit. Only Norway and Romania came close for me, other wer just generic pop songs.
We will see what the votes say...
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Reece on May 26, 2012, 11:09:30 pm
The Russian grannies had a lot of support from the crowd. Sure they are not the best voices but they are showing real spirit. Only Norway and Romania came close for me, other wer just generic pop songs.
We will see what the votes say...

Our entry (UK) was good too!

Voted for the Russian grannies.  :D
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Cofiliano on May 26, 2012, 11:17:03 pm
Cof : You're just so stupid that you have to equivocate and mix shit into other shit. You don't get my point. You keep turning simple thoughts into hatre and a reason to turn this into a dispute. Why won't you just ... you know ... become less madje ?
You should learn to address people without flaming. You aint gonna be tough over internet if you do it. I pointed out your hypocrit attitude cause of your comment toward Balkan countries, while you and a big majority of Turks in Germany will vote for Turkey representative. And there's no reason to cry about it.

Greece, Cyprus, Romania, and Grannies. There's alot of good songs this years, like Sweden, its a hard desicion.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Toto on May 26, 2012, 11:25:20 pm
Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Russia I liked all of them.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Alsatian on May 26, 2012, 11:26:55 pm
I only caught a glimpse of it, and the only one that was remotely good in my eyes was Germany's. That being said, even that was still pretty shit.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 26, 2012, 11:28:38 pm
You should learn to address people without flaming. You aint gonna be tough over internet if you do it. I pointed out your hypocrit attitude cause of your comment toward Balkan countries, while you and a big majority of Turks in Germany will vote for Turkey representative. And there's no reason to cry about it.

Greece, Cyprus, Romania, and Grannies. There's alot of good songs this years, like Sweden, its a hard desicion.
I don't flame, I just have a close-to-tourette-like way to express myself, just too bad that I voted for Estonia and you implying that I'm a stereotypical immigrant in Germany has not worked out, has it ?
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Reece on May 27, 2012, 12:04:20 am
Sweden have clearly won.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Cofiliano on May 27, 2012, 12:18:26 am
Sweden won more then deserved, congratulations. :)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gimli on May 27, 2012, 12:26:44 am
I'm sad that people can't vote on things like this without bias (not talking about the winners)... I'm talking about countries giving out points to their neighbours just because they're neighbours (e.g. the balkans), emigrants giving points to their home countries or direct political bias (Georgia giving 12 pts to Lithuania)..

Congrats to Sweden though!
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 27, 2012, 12:53:53 am
Any count that comes from Scandinavia, the Baltic states, the Balkan or the mid east has sure had neighbour-advantages (Especially Turkey, FYR Macedonia, Albania and ... yeah that is it). This thing turns into political matters, but Sweden's victory was somewhat obvious.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Jubin on May 27, 2012, 01:02:11 am
I'm sad that people can't vote on things like this without bias (not talking about the winners)... I'm talking about countries giving out points to their neighbours just because they're neighbours (e.g. the balkans), emigrants giving points to their home countries or direct political bias (Georgia giving 12 pts to Lithuania)..

Congrats to Sweden though!
Gimli, please could you PM how is Georgia politically biased toward Lithuania? I do though agree with you to some degree, but as you know some of it is already decreased by the fact that half of the points by all the countries are given by the jury. That counts for Estonia for example not giving 12 points toward Russia anymore. Also it is not that bad in Western and Northern Europe for some reason. Also if you think that politics is so much part of it, then I ask why doesn't the winners repeat so often? You know last time Sweden won was in 1999.

Anyway congratulations to Sweden. Also I loved the lack of euphoria when  Loreen went to the stage for the final performance. Like a true Northerner.

Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Thomas_A on May 27, 2012, 01:04:29 am
Of course eurovision is about politics, no wonder Malta or Cyprus havent won yet.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gimli on May 27, 2012, 01:13:46 am
Gimli, please could you PM how is Georgia politically biased toward Lithuania?
Because of Lithuania's immense support (along with other Baltic countries) for Georgia during the 2008 Russia - Georgia conflict / South Ossetia war - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_regarding_2008_South_Ossetia_war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_regarding_2008_South_Ossetia_war)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Jubin on May 27, 2012, 01:17:54 am
Because of Lithuania's immense support (along with other Baltic countries) for Georgia during the 2008 Russia - Georgia conflict / South Ossetia war - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_regarding_2008_South_Ossetia_war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_regarding_2008_South_Ossetia_war)
Then why no points to Estonia at all?
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gimli on May 27, 2012, 01:40:06 am
Then why no points to Estonia at all?
The reaction of the general public in Estonia wasn't as great as in LT I guess
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Mashgash on May 27, 2012, 01:41:09 am
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/p480x480/392411_10150846411922562_627297561_9744230_1192885948_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Dolfagr on May 27, 2012, 01:47:13 am
Yea..no wonder Sweden won.. (EU)Phoria..just kidding well done! :D
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Zaila on May 27, 2012, 01:59:17 am
I was pretty suprised that Sweden got 12 points 5 times in a row (or was it 6?).
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Cofiliano on May 27, 2012, 02:26:03 am
Eleftheria my babe, it didn't work out. Justice for Greece! :(
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Witchking on May 27, 2012, 07:52:24 am
Sweden wins this time

hehe told ya  :)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Jubin on May 27, 2012, 10:17:52 am
The reaction of the general public in Estonia wasn't as great as in LT I guess
beside that we got points from Russia, the other side of that political event. You can try and make it a political matter as much as you can, but in the end still the country with the best song out of those will win.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Gimli on May 27, 2012, 02:35:59 pm
beside that we got points from Russia, the other side of that political event. You can try and make it a political matter as much as you can, but in the end still the country with the best song out of those will win.
As said before, I'm not talking about the winners. ;)
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Hevar. on May 27, 2012, 02:55:43 pm
SWEDEN !!!! lalalalalalalla
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Jubin on May 27, 2012, 03:48:12 pm
As said before, I'm not talking about the winners. ;)
Yet that is the only one that actually matters.

 :ps: Also now I know what song to expect when boarding Lustigkurre's plane.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Emre on May 27, 2012, 05:05:14 pm
SWEDEN !!!! lalalalalalalla
This is one of those clueless people where I wonder about their population again. Can't say that they've won fluky but it was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Michele_Noord on May 27, 2012, 05:31:53 pm
I voted for Sweden, Azerbaijan and Russia. Congratz to Sweden:D!
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: KhornateMonkey on May 27, 2012, 09:03:27 pm
Second to last, baahahahahaha
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Jubin on May 27, 2012, 09:10:02 pm
Second to last, baahahahahaha
Actually you don't know as UK gets to the final no matter what. So in the end you were better than 16 countries that weren't in the final as well.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 27, 2012, 09:16:03 pm
Actually you don't know as UK gets to the final no matter what. So in the end you were better than 16 countries that weren't in the final as well.
They weren't better, they paid extra money to automatically go through to the finals.
Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2012 - Baku
Post by: Pancher on May 27, 2012, 11:03:06 pm
Voted on Sweden from UK!!  :D
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