Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: JDC on June 03, 2012, 07:32:12 am
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In a report received by one of my VCPD Officers, Lance_V claims that the five-vehicle rule (which allows suspects to use only five vehicles before either fighting, surrendering, or running on foot) was removed recently.
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I do not recall any alterations or removal of this rule with the exception of SA:MP some time ago. No one, not even Klaus, has the permission to remove any server rule without direct approval from the Owners, and I want an explanation as to why the five-vehicle rule, which has been around since the beginning of Argonath, is disregarded so blatantly in VC:MP.
This is not the first time either that individuals have been claiming that this rule has been voided, removed, or disregarded.
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Send in an email to [email protected], or send a PM to someone who can answer that question. Trying to blame someone for the situation is not needed and will only blow it out of proportion.
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I was told, by Klaus, that it was removed. See what he says, I guess. I always thought this was a VC:MP-specific rule too.
/me shrugs
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I was told, by Klaus, that it was removed. See what he says, I guess.
/me shrugs
I doubt so.
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Can we have some clarity here? Us VCPD Officers NEED to know verdict otherwise we can be enforcing wrong rules and be warned for it.
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Be patient everyone. Give Klaus and the other community leadership people a chance to respond before we all freak out. :)
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Then can we enforce the 5 vehicle rule for now until an offical answers?
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Then can we enforce the 5 vehicle rule for now until an offical answers?
If there is no public confirmation, I would assume so, but check with the online administration first.
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If there is no public confirmation, I would assume so, but check with the online administration first.
The five-vehicle rule is in effect, as it has always been since the beginning of Argonath, unless an Owner says otherwise.
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Well, i remember when i was chasing Klaus and he took his 6th vehicle, i said "Hey! You can take only 5 cars!"
He said
"Does anyone even care about that rule anymore?" <--- smthng like that.
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I would say,
When I was chasing someone and they went over the 5 car limit,
I had to shout to get the attention of Kessu to eject the suspect.
Kessu said at the end: We could always remove it.
Me:........
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Indeed I have thought since like 2010 that the rule has been removed.
Let Klaus post his opinion on the matter.
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People stopped caring about the rule as they'd rather just continue the chase (you know, play & and have fun?) instead of complaining that the suspect has used so many cars. All the rule does is give an unnecessary advantage to police so it was "removed".
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That rule has been in place even before you were picked as a Moderator, and no one has been complaining. I do not recall the Owners saying that it was permissible to drop and "remove" the server rules, let alone one of the original rules.
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When there is no member of the administration online, the rule is to be followed. When there is a member of the administration online, the criminal/criminals being chased and the police force should contact the admin to establish if both parties agree with 5 car limitation. If both parties share the same view, then for the sake of action/RP the 5 car limit can be either followed or not . In case the parties have different views, the 5 car limit takes place and should it be disrespected, the administration member should then apply punishments.
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That seems like a better solution... the only thing lacking to see is if the players will follow it or not. It should not be too hard with a little encouragement from the administration.
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If this is an issue, maybe a discussion with the players, administration team, and Server Owners needs to take place. If the scripts have changed in such a way that the 5 car rule is no longer necessary, then it would make sense to have it removed. If it is still necessary, then removing it shouldn't take place.
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The 5-car rule originates from MTA:VC for the simple reason that as there is no way to remove wanted level some people would use this to constantly bug cops and do nothing except run around wanted all day.
Apart from that I personally do not see the fun in that (and yes I have tried) the idea is for situations to end so that a new roleplay can be made.
This was done because while a normal vehicle can be repaired in Pay'nSpray, police vehicles can not.
The reason it was remove from SA:MP is that with the ability to repair all types of cars, mening a level playing field between police vehicles and other ones.
The suggested solution is the best one. If players care about the rule, enforce it. If they prefer endless chases, let them have it.
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The 5-car rule originates from MTA:VC for the simple reason that as there is no way to remove wanted level some people would use this to constantly bug cops and do nothing except run around wanted all day.
Apart from that I personally do not see the fun in that (and yes I have tried) the idea is for situations to end so that a new roleplay can be made.
This was done because while a normal vehicle can be repaired in Pay'nSpray, police vehicles can not.
The reason it was remove from SA:MP is that with the ability to repair all types of cars, mening a level playing field between police vehicles and other ones.
The suggested solution is the best one. If players care about the rule, enforce it. If they prefer endless chases, let them have it.
we already have heat wanted level system thus there's no endless chases unless the cops are constantly at close radius with the suspect as then his heat only raises... and trust me the synch is good enough that it's possible to take down people who enter new cars easily (you do have to actually try though)
and our pay'n'spray allows all vehicles to be repaired since vcmp doesn't use default gta:vc p'n's but a custom script instead
that being said i feel like this rule is completely pointless as the situation is now
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I didn't know about this.
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So must it always be a win-win for police ? I've heard officers Talk about earning 300k in 2 days just from killing wanted suspects .. I make 300 k a month from my business now ..
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So must it always be a win-win for police ? I've heard officers Talk about earning 300k in 2 days just from killing wanted suspects .. I make 300 k a month from my business now ..
Hm, I think with this rule it just has to be administrated in a fair way that'll work in the best interests of both sides - some things are ideal for certain roleplay circumstances, while depending on the environment, other things may need adjusting.
As for earning 300k from 2 days, or even a handful of days from the general police job I think is exaggeration. I can think of some ways of achieving such a figure, at least over the space of more than just a few days, but that'd take a lot of activity and potentially good work.
I'd say it is easy enough to spot those that are just in it for the money, those that often neglect roleplay. Such usually don't stand much of a chance in making the best of what Argonath has to offer.
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Hm, I think with this rule it just has to be administrated in a fair way that'll work in the best interests of both sides - some things are ideal for certain roleplay circumstances, while depending on the environment, other things may need adjusting.
As for earning 300k from 2 days, or even a handful of days from the general police job I think is exaggeration. I can think of some ways of achieving such a figure, at least over the space of more than just a few days, but that'd take a lot of activity and potentially good work.
I'd say it is easy enough to spot those that are just in it for the money, those that often neglect roleplay. Such usually don't stand much of a chance in making the best of what Argonath has to offer.
It's very possible, and Officers that role play ? I can only count on one hand
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It's very possible, and Officers that role play ? I can only count on one hand
There are more than 5 VCPD members and I'm confident they all roleplay.
None of them earn 300k in 2 days, and it's unlikely that others do.
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There are more than 5 VCPD members and I'm confident they all roleplay.
None of them earn 300k in 2 days, and it's unlikely that others do.
It's possible, but not likely. Only if someone manages to kill every single Furie that is online during a FBI HQ take-over :lol:
Anyways, about this rule, I would be more than glad to see it being removed because you already can evade crimes and it's VERY hard to evade higher heat levels, especially when this rule is applied.