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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Sweeper on June 13, 2012, 12:44:43 am
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A Texas father has used his bare hands to
kill a man he caught abusing the father's
four-year-old daughter.
The unidentified father walked into his own home on
Saturday to discover the 47-year-old man, a casual
acquaintance of his family, sexually assaulting the
little girl.
The father repeatedly punched the abuser in the head
and killed him, CNN reports.
Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said the assault
took place while other members of the family were
outside grooming horses, but no charges were laid.
"You have a right to defend your daughter," Sheriff
Harmon said.
"Once the investigation is completed we will submit it
to the district attorney who then submits it to the
grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him."
Sheriff Harmon said the man was "very remorseful"
and did not know the man would die.
Source: CNN
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This guy did what every parent has the right to do, defend their children from sick fucks like this guy. If anything this guy gave this sick bastard a break by killing him instead of letting him suffer like he deserves.
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Watch this film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill_(film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill_(film))
Same as this topic story (sort of)
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Not possible to express it in words. Your own acquaintance abusing your 4-years old daughter. This makes clear how many sick people there are on the world...
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According to the parent's rights, he had every right to defend his daughter, even going as far as killing the man. I'd kill someone too if I saw that.
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According to the parent's rights, he had every right to defend his daughter, even going as far as killing the man. I'd kill someone too if I saw that.
I'm not really aware of U.S. Law but there are limits to self-defense in Europe. But still, the father didn't kill the abuser on purpose.
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I'd do the same exact thing. The man probably didn't intend to kill 'em, but personally, I'd leave him alive. There are a lot of people in prison who would gladly fuck him up.
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Watch this film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill_(film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill_(film))
Same as this topic story (sort of)
I was actually thinking of this film whilst reading this... :eek:
The guy did what I hope every father would do: beat the living shit out of him. The sick bastard died as a result? Well that's just a damn shame.
Like SafetyMoose said, he got off easy with death instead of rotting away in prison.
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According to the parent's rights, he had every right to defend his daughter, even going as far as killing the man.
That sick fk got what he deserved. Sex offenders are let off the hook to easy in our world. They serve their time and are set free back into society so they can continue to find new victims; Hell there has been offenders who found new victims while still in prison. However, given the fact he him self wasn't or his daughter wasn't in "direct life-threatening" danger, would not surprise me if the DA filed charges.
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That sick fk got what he deserved. Sex offenders are let off the hook to easy in our world. They serve their time and are set free back into society so they can continue to find new victims; Hell there has been offenders who found new victims while still in prison. However, given the fact he him self wasn't or his daughter wasn't in "direct life-threatening" danger, would not surprise me if the DA filed charges.
That's right. But maybe he still won't be charged looking at the circumstances of this crime.
I think you'll stop thinking if you walk into your house and face this.
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I'm not really aware of U.S. Law but there are limits to self-defense in Europe.
Self-defense laws tend to vary from state to state here in the U.S., which just makes it really fucking confusing.
Some states have the stand-your-ground law, which allows force in self defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat without the obligation to attempt a retreat beforehand. Some states don't even allow self-defense. You are obligated to retreat, regardless if force is the only feasible option. In other words, if you're backed into a corner with a gun to your head, you have two options: you can either act in self-defense and face assault/murder charges, or you can take a bullet through your brain.
Luckily, here in Virginia, if you are in immediate danger of death or serious injury, you are able to use force to protect yourself.
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Luckily, here in Virginia, if you are in immediate danger of death or serious injury, you are able to use force to protect yourself.
This is pretty much the base of all of them however. Only if someone is in immediate danger of death, is it considered "self defense". In this case, at least not noted was a gun or knife involved or any direct violence to the daughter. Which is why I fear the DA will file the charges against the father.
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He won't go to jail, it's fucking Texas.
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Think about it guys. Your own meat and blood, what you've created and the thing you love most in life and would've been devastated if you lost him/her would be sexual abused by a 47 year old man. I would seriously kill him.
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Think about it guys. Your own meat and blood, what you've created and the thing you love most in life and would've been devastated if you lost him/her would be sexual abused by a 47 year old man. I would seriously kill him.
I wouldn't. I beat him to an inch of death, and then let prison life destroy him. Here in the US, child molesters are prime real estate in prison. Then when he gets out, cause our lovely justice system lets him. I'd find him, and again beat him to and inch of death.
Killing him gives him the easy way out.
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That sick fk got what he deserved. Sex offenders are let off the hook to easy in our world. They serve their time and are set free back into society so they can continue to find new victims; Hell there has been offenders who found new victims while still in prison. However, given the fact he him self wasn't or his daughter wasn't in "direct life-threatening" danger, would not surprise me if the DA filed charges.
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ITT: pubescent males trained in gorilla warfare talk about how they would people within an inch of their life
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Hmm, if I had a 4 year old daughter and found this happening, I'd probably do the same...in fact, if it was someone else's daughter I'd probably beat the crap out of the guy too!
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I would like to see him charged with manslaughter and given a sentence on probation.
That way he will not have to go to prison, while it does show that killing a man will always be thoroughly looked at by the judges. It will ensure the barrier to kill someone is not lowered.
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I would like to see him charged with manslaughter and given a sentence on probation.
That way he will not have to go to prison, while it does show that killing a man will always be thoroughly looked at by the judges. It will ensure the barrier to kill someone is not lowered.
That's means if you've to defend yourself again, the penalty will be enforced, that wouldn't be fair either.
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I chose "Charged"
You know why? It doesnt matter what he was doing, he still killed a man. I'm pretty sure there was a way to use a non-lethal ways to defend his daugher, and the abuser would have a lot harder time in prison, yet , the death was a lot easier than staying in prison.
That's means if you've to defend yourself again, the penalty will be enforced, that wouldn't be fair either.
Self Defence is a totally another case.
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I chose "Charged"
You know why? It doesnt matter what he was doing, he still killed a man. I'm pretty sure there was a way to use a non-lethal ways to defend his daugher, and the abuser would have a lot harder time in prison, yet , the death was a lot easier than staying in prison.
Self Defence is a totally another case.
"Self defence" is much more than just defending your own life.
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"Self defence" is much more than just defending your own life.
Self Defence is EXACTLY defending your own life.
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No.
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Self Defence is EXACTLY defending your own life.
Then I suggest you to read the Criminal Law.
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He did the right thing. I'd kill him too.
Though bit harsh, but at that time you see someone abusing your daughter you blur.
I'd blur. Wouldn't have the ability to think so much in a situation like this.. Who would?
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Self Defence is EXACTLY defending your own life.
Are you trying to imply that a 4 year old can defend themselves from a grown mad? Why are you even slightly trying to defend a sex offender. This father did society a public service and deserves to be recognised for a job well done.
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He actually did the man a favor by killing him. Once word gets out that the new prisoner was jailed for molesting a 4 year-old, I can foresee a lot of fun times in the shower for the other prisoners.
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I can foresee a lot of fun times in the shower for the other prisoners.
Haha, true.
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Self Defence is EXACTLY defending your own life.
No.
Self Defense is protecting your own immediate life, it DOES however cover those around you. You can defend the life of someone else; Again, in the US Self Defense laws are state-oriented laws, meaning each state has its own "law" on it.
He actually did the man a favor by killing him. Once word gets out that the new prisoner was jailed for molesting a 4 year-old, I can foresee a lot of fun times in the shower for the other prisoners.
:lol:
ITT: pubescent males trained in gorilla warfare talk about how they would people within an inch of their life
:lol: You know nothing do you? One, you don't know how old I am, or everyone else here for that matter. Two, you don't need to be "trained" to beat someone's ass to near death pal or for that matter, any age over 12 to do it.
I would like to see him charged with manslaughter and given a sentence on probation.
This is most likely what will happen, although without the probation sentence. Manslaughter is a "murder" charge in a sense not a felony, which holds 15 years minimum (again in most states) in prison. My Cousin was charged with Manslaughter, its a touchy charge and is there is a fine like between it and Murder; in this case it can be argued he was provoked into attacking the man, and even "impartial" self defense, if state law doesn't protect him.
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He won't go to jail, it's f**king Texas.
This.
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Are you trying to imply that a 4 year old can defend themselves from a grown mad? Why are you even slightly trying to defend a sex offender. This father did society a public service and deserves to be recognised for a job well done.
You missed the complete point.
The fact is
"He found a 40 yrs old abusing his daughter"
Im pretty sure he could have just grabbed a knife, stabbed his leg and just knocked him out. he would have got it a lost worse in prison (as he deserved) than just an easy death..
Besides, say what you want, im on Gandalf with this one.
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Im pretty sure he could have just grabbed a knife, stabbed his leg and just knocked him out.
You were talking about overreacting. Taking a knife and stabbing him, that's way too far.
He defended his daughter by kicking the shit out of the man and accidently killed him.
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You missed the complete point.
The fact is
"He found a 40 yrs old abusing his daughter"
Im pretty sure he could have just grabbed a knife, stabbed his leg and just knocked him out. he would have got it a lost worse in prison (as he deserved) than just an easy death..
Besides, say what you want, im on Gandalf with this one.
If he used a knife then he would be charged for murder as going for a weapon shows intent and thus could not be argued as self defence.
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He should get a reward for doing this great service. He took a child abuser away forever and made sure it would never happen again. He did the right thing.
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He should get a reward for doing this great service. He took a child abuser away forever and made sure it would never happen again. He did the right thing.
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A 47 year old sexually assaulting a 4 year old? Thats just sick, he deserved to die... The girls father should be proud of himself.
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He was not charged by the way.
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He was not charged by the way.
It was just right for him not to be charged. Any sick fuck who goes around fucking 4 year-old girls does not deserve human rights anyway.
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It was just right for him not to be charged. Any sick f**k who goes around f**king 4 year-old girls does not deserve human rights anyway.
As much as I agree with you, I must still object to the idea of denying anyone of their fundamental rights. If we can deny a person of their rights then they would simply become privileges and defeat the purpose of "Rights" and opens the door to new forms of rights abuse.
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As much as I agree with you, I must still object to the idea of denying anyone of their fundamental rights. If we can deny a person of their rights then they would simply become privileges and defeat the purpose of "Rights" and opens the door to new forms of rights abuse.
By performing acts that have compromised their humanity, they have, in essence, given up their own rights.
Your rights end where they infringe the rights of others. Having rights should not be a license to destroy the rights of others, and at some point, you can say the rights of those violators deserve to be forfeited.
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By performing acts that have compromised their humanity, they have, in essence, given up their own rights.
Your rights end where they infringe the rights of others. Having rights should not be a license to destroy the rights of others, and at some point, you can say the rights of those violators deserve to be forfeited.
I fully agree.
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By performing acts that have compromised their humanity, they have, in essence, given up their own rights.
Your rights end where they infringe the rights of others. Having rights should not be a license to destroy the rights of others, and at some point, you can say the rights of those violators deserve to be forfeited.
rights cannot be taken away, only infringed. Your logic would dictate that we should remove all rights and replace them with priviilages for specific services. Doing so would completely undermine the system of Justice and equality.
I agree with you though, people like this don't deserve the rights they have but if we don't give everyone equal rights in the eyes of the law, it just allows for the world to develope in to a play where rights are infringed over the smallest things.
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rights cannot be taken away, only infringed. Your logic would dictate that we should remove all rights and replace them with priviilages for specific services. Doing so would completely undermine the system of Justice and equality.
I agree with you though, people like this don't deserve the rights they have but if we don't give everyone equal rights in the eyes of the law, it just allows for the world to develope in to a play where rights are infringed over the smallest things.
Allowing people to retain rights if they commit certain acts (such as going on a rape spree of 4 year-olds) is essentially nullifying the rights of the victims involved. So technically, rights do not hold any weight if we will not take into account the concept of accountability/responsibility as well, where someone has agreed to accepting the consequences of their action by performing that certain action.
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Allowing people to retain rights if they commit certain acts (such as going on a rape spree of 4 year-olds) is essentially nullifying the rights of the victims involved. So technically, rights do not hold any weight if we will not take into account the concept of accountability/responsibility as well, where someone has agreed to accepting the consequences of their action by performing that certain action.
They do not nullify the rights of another person, they infringe them, there is a difference. A right cannot be taken away, only infringe,d a Privilege can be taken away. Accountability only come sin to play if we refer to certain services as privileges, since a persons right cannot be taken away under any circumstance. A person cannot cannot take awya another persons rights, only infringe them and the governments job is to protect those rights, not infringe them themselves.
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Perhaps the father was doing the raping and the friend found out, seems unlikely though.
I would most likely attempt to murder the person raping my daughter as well, but then again Swedish sentences for murder aren't that high so the pros kinda outweighs the cons.
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He could've just gotten in on the action.
Karma lost.
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Guy should get a medal.