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Title: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Dillon on June 17, 2012, 10:37:50 am
In February 2010 The CIA Red Cell did a report about what would happen if the United States was seen as an exporter of terrorism. In August 2010 the document was compromised to the world and foreign officials which it's seal NOFORN was clearly missed. I believe this shows an important link about some topics that surfaced a while ago. It also raises an interesting question about what would happen if the US is seen as an exporter of terrorism?

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Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: JDC on June 17, 2012, 10:43:49 am
Regardless of what the CIA applies, the USA will still be hated by certain people in certain countries. :pop:

If you wanted to change the perception of the USA, you will have to change the above first.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Gandalf on June 17, 2012, 01:44:59 pm
Accidents do not exist. Only propaganda.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Dillon on June 19, 2012, 10:08:44 am
Accidents do not exist. Only propaganda.
That brings up an interesting point out of all the CIA files that were leaked were all Pro USA and they all seemed to be exaggerating a point making the US seem better than it is.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 28, 2012, 10:25:14 pm
People that live in USA are actually good people. Kind and stuff. The leaders ARE BASTARDS. Huh, that is the truth, people should deal with it :/
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 29, 2012, 12:05:14 am
The US leaders are warmongers, power hungry and will not stop until someone puts them back down to their level.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 29, 2012, 12:08:11 am
The US leaders are warmongers, power hungry and will not stop until someone puts them back down to their level.

That is where Russia and China come in . :)

Than, when Russia and China attack US, world will follow, and US will fall. World - powerhungry US politicians = world peace :)
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 29, 2012, 12:23:07 am
This is where your wrong, if China and Russia had a joint operation against America the Americans would scream to the UN and NATO, thats if they didnt intervene due to an unprovoked attack..
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Void on June 29, 2012, 12:26:04 am
That is where Russia and China come in . :)

Than, when Russia and China attack US, world will follow, and US will fall. World - powerhungry US politicians = world peace :)
The world won't actually follow. China supports the world economy and manufacturing so far. Attacking China is a great mistake for the global economy.
Everyone willing for a WWIII or whatever: This war will have far more consequences than any international conflict. War is the ultimate dehumanizer.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: EliteTerm on June 29, 2012, 10:39:12 am
This is where your wrong, if China and Russia had a joint operation against America the Americans would scream to the UN and NATO, thats if they didnt intervene due to an unprovoked attack..

United States is the most heavily armed society in the world...

The last major conflict of this magnitude was World War II, since then the world's population pretty much doubled. Think about it, each major city has roughly 1 million or more citizens and if they really want to destabilize a country like United States, they would have to use nuclear bombs but you know how that works out..


The US leaders are warmongers, power hungry and will not stop until someone puts them back down to their level.
I do not support their actions, and no matter how many times the people voted them out & replaced them with new ones promising changes, only to get fucked in the ass. There's always someone that will not represent the people, but represent corporations or people who gave them money to run the country by their rules.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Dolfagr on June 29, 2012, 01:33:59 pm
I don't see how Obama is a warmonger. Then again he was awarded the Nobel of peace >_<
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Void on June 29, 2012, 05:56:25 pm
I don't see how Obama is a warmonger. Then again he was awarded the Nobel of peace >_<
Politicization of Nobel awards.

There won't be any joint operations, land assaults or similar conventional war tactics. New units will be formed, probably scavenger units. Why? So they can search the perimeter and kill those who didn't die in the nuclear explosion. Bombs go first and with bombs, the whole world falls apart.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Gandalf on June 29, 2012, 06:00:27 pm
WWIII has already started, and in many cases no bombs or armies are needed.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Void on June 29, 2012, 06:03:54 pm
WWIII has already started, and in many cases no bombs or armies are needed.
If I understand your post correctly: This is just a shaking glass. WWIII actually requires the glass spilling.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: JDC on July 08, 2012, 04:37:23 am
Even if you removed the power-hungry US politicians, they will only be replaced by other power-hungry corporations and leaders, who might be more or less powerhungry.

Such is human nature ever since the discovery of agriculture.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 17, 2012, 07:28:44 pm
You know, in Serbia we have a saying:

Where is Murat, there is Obilic.

It means that there is someone stronger even from the strongest guy in the world.

That saying came after the epic battle of Kosovo where Serbian warrior Milos Obilic got into Turkish camp and slayed turkish Emperor.

Anyway, the point is:

No matter how strong you are, someone else will beat you.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Gomes on September 19, 2012, 12:06:24 am
"As a recent victim of high-profile terrorism originating from abroad, the US Government has had significant leverage to press foreign regimes to acquiesce to requests for extraditing terrorist suspects from their soil. However, if the US were seen as an 'exporter of terrorism', foreign governments could request a reciprocal arrangement that would impact US sovereignty."

So much hypocrisy...
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: FastSh00T on September 19, 2012, 12:54:31 am
WWIII has already started, and in many cases no bombs or armies are needed.

Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 02:44:25 am
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Where did you hear that?

Argonath.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: JDC on September 19, 2012, 07:53:11 am
Argonath.

Actually, it's already going on all around us. The media just does not call it "war".
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Teddy on September 19, 2012, 08:01:25 am
Actually, it's already going on all around us. The media just does not call it "war".

Because the media is blinded by profit.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:16:44 pm
Media would say that, but it is both well payed not to, and whell threathened by goverment.

WW3 already started, and when America crosses the total line, bloodbath is going to begin...
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Mikal on September 19, 2012, 04:21:56 pm
That is where Russia and China come in . :)

Than, when Russia and China attack US, world will follow, and US will fall. World - powerhungry US politicians = world peace :)
If Russia and China were to attack America, Europe would attack Russia and China..
So anyway, Europe + America fighting Russia + China = WW4 and probibly wouldn't be pretty..

Not everyone hates the US y'know, personally I just hate Mitt Romney.  :lol:
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:23:46 pm
Yea, whell half of world hates America, and half dont. Anyway, bloodbath on a world scale WILL happen sooner or later. We are humans, that IS in our nature.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 04:25:22 pm
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We are humans, that IS in our nature

No.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:29:50 pm
Dude, humans are NOTHING more than intelligent animals. Violence is in our DNA. If it wasnt, the world would be a peacefull place, filled with love, and support. Hmmmmm, and look at the world? DID YOU KNOW that since BRONSE AGE 70% of time from BRONSE age untill now was spent in WAR. Eh, not so civilised aint it?
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 04:34:31 pm
The question is, which part of the world are YOU living in? Clearly you have not visited Medina.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:46:48 pm
No, i did not, but I AM talking about the ENTIRE WORLD. There were WARS at any parts of the world known at that time up to now. And 70% of that time (from bronze age untill now) was used for warfare. Am saying that.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 05:28:32 pm
Those who desire peace must prepare for war.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 07:25:45 pm
Those who desire peace must prepare for war.

Yes, but, wars ONLY cause MORE wars. That is the cyclus that will NEVER END.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 10:00:16 pm
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Yes, but, wars ONLY cause MORE wars. That is the cyclus that will NEVER END.

One has to fight to create peace. No matter how long it would take.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: [WS]Jacob on September 19, 2012, 10:05:59 pm
But you cannot use perceptual war to gain perceptual peace.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Teddy on September 20, 2012, 11:48:31 am
One has to fight to create peace. No matter how long it would take.
But you cannot use perceptual war to gain perceptual peace.

What is peace? I don't think this world has ever had purity of peace, this peace is nothing more than what the media again tells you is peace.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 20, 2012, 08:34:39 pm
What is peace? I don't think this world has ever had purity of peace, this peace is nothing more than what the media again tells you is peace.

Yes. Peace was never pure!

One war lead to another, than that war lead to another war in vengeance, than again, vengenace, and that is the circle that NEVER, NEVER, ABSOLUTLEY NEVER ends.

That is the pure truth. Only way for peace is that the entire world soil gets split eavenly to all countries. All resources get spread equally, and there would be no war for any teritory or resources. That would be peace, but we all know that that will NEVER happen.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Kizzu on September 23, 2012, 01:37:06 pm
What we call "Peace" is a utopian concept. It's virtually impossible to have complete peace, interests collide, we're all different one way or another.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Dean. on September 23, 2012, 01:40:51 pm
WWIII won't last long I gues. just a few rockets and bombs ... and its all over. No guns, no tanks... just simply killing entire nations.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Kizzu on September 23, 2012, 01:44:19 pm
WWIII won't last long I gues. just a few rockets and bombs ... and its all over. No guns, no tanks... just simply killing entire nations.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein

WWIII will be a push-the-button war.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on September 23, 2012, 03:45:49 pm
Which all brings us to devolution (backwards evolution).

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein
This is not incorrect.

If after a few decennia the world is still in one piece, we will have run out of oil and other world resources.
No more high tech world, we will go back in time like our grandparents used to live.
The world leaders only care about their current wealth.
They will or will not see what they have done to the world later.

The best option is a world wide revolution.
But the citizen himself does not even care anymore.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Def Perry on September 24, 2012, 12:08:57 pm
Am I the only one who thinks there won't be a WWIII in the upcoming years? :cool:
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 24, 2012, 03:49:46 pm
Am I the only one who thinks there won't be a WWIII in the upcoming years? :cool:

Yea, you are...

I only give a damn about Balkans, and as long as Balkans are NOT cought in crossfire, i am all OK.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Emre on September 24, 2012, 07:36:59 pm
What if the current US-American president was actually not from Kenya and would have an opponent who is not republican and phobic against almost everything ? Firstly mentioned will show his bad side if WWIII would be declared while he is in charge and secondly mentioned would only provoke one.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Kizzu on September 24, 2012, 11:52:34 pm
Am I the only one who thinks there won't be a WWIII in the upcoming years? :cool:

That is an innocent and ingenuous thought. Tensions are high, oil is depleting, revolutions are brewing, the economy is on it's lowest since a really long time. War generates money. After WW2 Europe rose as fast as ever.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Exterminator on September 25, 2012, 06:24:54 pm
That is an innocent and ingenuous thought. Tensions are high, oil is depleting, revolutions are brewing, the economy is on it's lowest since a really long time. War generates money. After WW2 Europe rose as fast as ever.

Conditions back then were different, if anything they would want to avoid WWIII for the sake of their economies.
If the superpowers fight their funds flow down like a river, whereas small countries that popped up afterwards, and economies like India would flourish. Many of the small countries would even merge to form bigger countries and in the end, Europe and US would probably take bigass losses...(Given that nuclear war doesnt pew pew us, that is)

As for the peace conduct, there is no way to ensure peace.
Even Gandhi started wars, he protested for the Britishers to give a portion of the aid to India over to Pakistan, but it ended up in pakistan using up all that cash to buy weapons and invade India for more land, destroying its own economy and messing up the Indian economy aswell. In the end Pakistan invaded India four times, Every action really does have a equal and opposite reaction.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Jellyfish on September 25, 2012, 10:36:08 pm
That is an innocent and ingenuous thought. Tensions are high, oil is depleting, revolutions are brewing, the economy is on it's lowest since a really long time. War generates money. After WW2 Europe rose as fast as ever.

Will there be anything left to rise after a full-scale war is ignited?
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Emre on September 26, 2012, 11:41:20 am
The third world war will most likely have nothing left but a central spot that dominates everything else. Everything else goes under or merges with the domination.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 26, 2012, 12:13:43 pm
Would be nice to see scrubs fighting with light sabers over the control of a game store in WW3.
Title: Re: If the US was seen as a exporter of Terrorism.
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 26, 2012, 02:15:25 pm
That is an innocent and ingenuous thought. Tensions are high, oil is depleting, revolutions are brewing, the economy is on it's lowest since a really long time. War generates money. After WW2 Europe rose as fast as ever.

AGAIN... MONEY HUNGRY BASTARDS gonna kill us all, just for a profit...
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