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Title: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: .Tony on June 19, 2012, 12:36:27 am
Well, I've been thinking about this for a few years now, but I haven't actually cared enough to bring it up. I don't really know the answer of it, but.. If ghosts are real, how come they aren't appearing in the exact second you hear anything similiar to it? From where does ghosts come from anyways? I'm guessing it is people's dead souls that stays in the area they passed away from. And keep disturbing anyone that comes there. (Often occurs in houses where they actually have died in - I've noticed it.)

People often say that you shouldn't believe in ghosts at all, because they don't ' exist '. But they really do, because I have been through a situation like that, once in a house that has been abandoned for at least 20+ years. I am not a guy that actually notices anything when I am asleep, but now it feels like I am being '' harmed '' by ghosts that are in my room. Sometimes I hear strange noises just a few metres away from my room, and sometimes downstairs.. I don't really know if this house is haunted or not, because I have been bothered with these kinds of things for at least 3 months now, and I can't sleep well anymore. I wake up more than 3 times a night, just because of this, I don't understand from where they come from. And what they want from you..

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Pandalink on June 19, 2012, 12:38:52 am
Sounds like a psychological issue. Perhaps consult a psychiatrist.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: .Tony on June 19, 2012, 12:41:46 am
Sounds like a psychological issue. Perhaps consult a psychiatrist.
I don't think it is, as I haven't been bothered with it before we moved into our new house.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alsatian on June 19, 2012, 01:14:42 am
No, ghosts are not real.

I hear noises all the time in my house because the floorboard is squeaky as f**k, and when I was a kid I always used to associate these sounds with ghosts or something like that.

Oh, and the fact that you've had this problem for three months now:
Sounds like a psychological issue. Perhaps consult a psychiatrist.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: CaptainCrazy on June 19, 2012, 02:24:03 am
Call the Ghostbusters man.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Caltson on June 19, 2012, 02:58:58 am
No, ghosts are not real.

I hear noises all the time in my house because the floorboard is squeaky as f**k, and when I was a kid I always used to associate these sounds with ghosts or something like that.


This..
A house is full of ... Stuff.. Noises can be produced of course.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Rick. on June 19, 2012, 03:14:23 am
Call the Ghostbusters man.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Exterminator on June 19, 2012, 03:57:58 am
Your mind will constantly over exaggerate(trust me, its shitty as hell, fact: 99 percent of the average human's "memory" is actually false). The thing is actually not the fact that your haunted, but went in a haunted house, then moved to a new house and also "expirienced" paranormal activity. This is how it worked, you had doubts but you were safe in your house, your new house could be unsafe and hence your mind thought that theres tiny paranormal there. Once it thought there was paranormal it started exaggerating on it.This will probably go away soon, unless you are having troubles with it in which case you should probably consult a psychiatrist.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Squeak on June 19, 2012, 04:17:25 am
fact: 99 percent of the average human's "memory" is actually false).
Here is where I stopped reading.


Being the skeptic that I am, I usually dismiss accounts of people seeing ghosts as false or misinterpreted. I cannot seem to find a reason that would disprove the existence of ghosts, however.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Exterminator on June 19, 2012, 04:22:11 am
Here is where I stopped reading.


Being the skeptic that I am, I usually dismiss accounts of people seeing ghosts as false or misinterpreted. I cannot seem to find a reason that would disprove the existence of ghosts, however.

The existance of God cant be disproved either, and no scientist will ever try.
Psychologists already proved that theory of ghosts emerged as part of arguement from ignorance(not offensive, idiots need to change name). They put the patients under equipment and had them see a horror movie involving ghosts, and A.F.I nodes were the ones in main control of it all, so yeah ghosts are nothing but your brain's failures.

Also, the memory is false. You can carry out a cool little experiment to prove it, try to imagine the place you think your the most familiar with(Needless to say, it needs to be 3D like your house or office or w/e). Now look at the finer details of the place, is it EXACTLY the way it is in reality? You visit it everyday yet you cant render a 3D model of it, dont worry we all do it. Let me explain how

You see, memories are not stored in some grand database of the brain(if they were, well your brain's gravity would probably beat the sun's given that your brain can grow to that size to hold all those memories). Memories are reconstructed on the spot, that it why whenever you look at things you get sparked with memories related to them, your brain constantly puts things to your attention related to whats in it currently. For example, have you ever had a problem with a friend like talking about a event, then suddenly one of you claims it was easter and other that it was christmas?Thats vey common actually, and chances are 3/9 that your right, 3/9 that hes right, and 3/9 that neither of you are right.
However people do have a good and a bad memory in a sense, for example if you are to tell some people that a man's last name is Baker, and some people that the man is a Baker, the people who are told he is a Baker would probably remember him for longer.

The more things you associate with memory, the higher the chances of you remembering it. That it why developing memory heusterics is a really good idea, although time consuming.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Doctor on June 19, 2012, 05:54:17 am
There are ghosts everywhere you move around. If you are scared of them, they'll harm you. If you ignore them and don't care of them. Nothing such will happen. I suggest you to don't wake up at night. Even if you cannot sleep just pretend that you're sleeping. There are some evil spirits and some good spirits around you. At 6:00-30pm spirits come out and pass around the house/map around the world, if you feel like someone is calling you at this time and the guy that is calling you is the same voice of your relative or someone who is living with you so just ignore it. If you respond to it and just try to hear it again, you'll be harmed.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Dolfagr on June 19, 2012, 06:05:07 am
Listen to some music when you go to sleep, you'll fall asleep and you won't hear a thing, problem solved.

Unless then it's your sub-consious which convinces you that there are ghosts in your house and wakes you up, in that case it

Sounds like a psychological issue. Perhaps consult a psychiatrist.

Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Thomas_A on June 19, 2012, 09:52:47 am
If you have a problem, If none else can help and If you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team !!  :war:
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Torero on June 19, 2012, 10:25:15 am
I hear noises all the time in my house because the floorboard is squeaky as f**k, and when I was a kid I always used to associate these sounds with ghosts or something like that.
This! In my house when you sleep you'll hear thousands of sounds, most of them from stairs, as they are wooden.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alsatian on June 19, 2012, 12:57:56 pm
Listen to some music when you go to sleep, you'll fall asleep and you won't hear a thing, problem solved.

This is the solution.

There are ghosts everywhere you move around. If you are scared of them, they'll harm you. If you ignore them and don't care of them. Nothing such will happen. I suggest you to don't wake up at night. Even if you cannot sleep just pretend that you're sleeping. There are some evil spirits and some good spirits around you. At 6:00-30pm spirits come out and pass around the house/map around the world, if you feel like someone is calling you at this time and the guy that is calling you is the same voice of your relative or someone who is living with you so just ignore it. If you respond to it and just try to hear it again, you'll be harmed.


What time do the ghosts' shifts end?
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jimmylicious on June 19, 2012, 01:13:53 pm
There are ghosts everywhere you move around. If you are scared of them, they'll harm you. If you ignore them and don't care of them. Nothing such will happen. I suggest you to don't wake up at night. Even if you cannot sleep just pretend that you're sleeping. There are some evil spirits and some good spirits around you. At 6:00-30pm spirits come out and pass around the house/map around the world, if you feel like someone is calling you at this time and the guy that is calling you is the same voice of your relative or someone who is living with you so just ignore it. If you respond to it and just try to hear it again, you'll be harmed.

Thats the same thing you do to see a ghost on Sims.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: CharlieKasper on June 19, 2012, 02:48:27 pm
Your mind will constantly over exaggerate(trust me, its shitty as hell, fact: 99 percent of the average human's "memory" is actually false). The thing is actually not the fact that your haunted, but went in a haunted house, then moved to a new house and also "expirienced" paranormal activity. This is how it worked, you had doubts but you were safe in your house, your new house could be unsafe and hence your mind thought that theres tiny paranormal there. Once it thought there was paranormal it started exaggerating on it.This will probably go away soon, unless you are having troubles with it in which case you should probably consult a psychiatrist.
The existance of God cant be disproved either, and no scientist will ever try.
Psychologists already proved that theory of ghosts emerged as part of arguement from ignorance(not offensive, idiots need to change name). They put the patients under equipment and had them see a horror movie involving ghosts, and A.F.I nodes were the ones in main control of it all, so yeah ghosts are nothing but your brain's failures.

Also, the memory is false. You can carry out a cool little experiment to prove it, try to imagine the place you think your the most familiar with(Needless to say, it needs to be 3D like your house or office or w/e). Now look at the finer details of the place, is it EXACTLY the way it is in reality? You visit it everyday yet you cant render a 3D model of it, dont worry we all do it. Let me explain how

You see, memories are not stored in some grand database of the brain(if they were, well your brain's gravity would probably beat the sun's given that your brain can grow to that size to hold all those memories). Memories are reconstructed on the spot, that it why whenever you look at things you get sparked with memories related to them, your brain constantly puts things to your attention related to whats in it currently. For example, have you ever had a problem with a friend like talking about a event, then suddenly one of you claims it was easter and other that it was christmas?Thats vey common actually, and chances are 3/9 that your right, 3/9 that hes right, and 3/9 that neither of you are right.
However people do have a good and a bad memory in a sense, for example if you are to tell some people that a man's last name is Baker, and some people that the man is a Baker, the people who are told he is a Baker would probably remember him for longer.

The more things you associate with memory, the higher the chances of you remembering it. That it why developing memory heusterics is a really good idea, although time consuming.
What you said doesn't prove that human memory is false, there's no such thing. What you said proves that human memory is not 100% accurate.

There are ghosts everywhere you move around. If you are scared of them, they'll harm you. If you ignore them and don't care of them. Nothing such will happen. I suggest you to don't wake up at night. Even if you cannot sleep just pretend that you're sleeping. There are some evil spirits and some good spirits around you. At 6:00-30pm spirits come out and pass around the house/map around the world, if you feel like someone is calling you at this time and the guy that is calling you is the same voice of your relative or someone who is living with you so just ignore it. If you respond to it and just try to hear it again, you'll be harmed.
lol

My sharp guess is that you have been watching too much of horror movies or have been thinking about ghosts a lot. That has been in your sub-conscious mind and every unusual sound you hear makes you think that there are ghosts.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: .Tony on June 19, 2012, 02:49:57 pm
It could aswell be my imagination..
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alarba on June 19, 2012, 02:52:25 pm
There's no such thing as ghosts. /end
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Trey_Johnson on June 19, 2012, 07:23:59 pm
Call the ghost hunters to your house. I've seen 2 episodes of that show and man.. I found myself a new comedy show for the summer.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jubin on June 19, 2012, 08:59:43 pm
Listen to some music when you go to sleep, you'll fall asleep and you won't hear a thing, problem solved.

I wont even hear the music?
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Exterminator on June 19, 2012, 09:13:07 pm
What you said doesn't prove that human memory is false, there's no such thing. What you said proves that human memory is not 100% accurate.

The memory is false, the only times its accurate it when your lucky. Saying that it is true with a zillion mistakes per nanosecond is like saying quantum fluctuations occur per rest mass of a circulatory pendicament.
Plus, i dont think ghosts would just wake up and start haunting him when they dont exist..

Post Merge: June 19, 2012, 09:14:02 pm
I wont even hear the music?

Well technically it WILL go to your subconscience by your ears when when your eyes are closed, so actually your dream is gonna be determined majorly by what the music is. You probably dont wanna go to sleep hearing EPIC RAGE music...
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on June 19, 2012, 09:18:10 pm
Some Dutchies on national television actually decided to check whether ghosts are bs or real.
They went to some cemetary where there are obviously a lot of people burried, and they managed to measure some sort of unique energy. When the energy was at its highest the presentator felt something obviously tapping on his shoulder.
I don't know.
I myself haven't experienced any sounds or such, but I have experienced the feeling of being looked at etc while I'm alone.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jeremy. on June 19, 2012, 09:19:14 pm
lmfao , ghosts :lol:
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Dolfagr on June 19, 2012, 09:19:38 pm
I wont even hear the music?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: KhornateMonkey on June 19, 2012, 09:25:11 pm
The memory is false

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Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Sawyer on June 19, 2012, 09:26:33 pm
False  :lol:
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Gandalf on June 19, 2012, 10:55:32 pm
As you have recently moved to a new house, it is very likely that you have to get used to the sounds.
When we just moved to Holland, we lived in a house where the first night we jumped out of bed because we thought someone was in the house or garden. There was nothing. After a while we understood it was the heating system that made this noise, and after two months we did not even hear it.

If it is an old house, there are chances you have some guests. Not of the ghost type, but more like mice who hold a disco at night. Only if you have ruled out every other possibility you might think of another explanation.

As for ghosts existing, there is no solid evidence and there are some interesting experiences.
In my opinion if they exist they are either memories stuck in time or the spirits of our ancestors watching over us. There is no reason to be afraid of ghosts.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on June 19, 2012, 10:57:38 pm
In my opinion if they exist they are either memories stuck in time
I like this theory.

There is no reason to be afraid of ghosts.
Unless they break your stuff. :D
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: .Tony on June 19, 2012, 11:22:38 pm
I'll try to see if I can notice something or anything similiar. But really there is a place in this house, where I won't even put my foot in if I am alone. It scares the shit out of me..

That is the room where you can get to the reel.. I can't go up there alone, I have to bring anyone to come with me, otherwise I will just stand idle, looking inside there, thinking '' If something comes down, I'm going to die. '' something like that. Especially when it's at night/late evening...
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: duffman on June 19, 2012, 11:24:54 pm
Thats the weed talking, no ghosts
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Antonio. on June 19, 2012, 11:29:31 pm
I believe they're real. I don't think I ever came upon one, but there were many of times when I felt there was a ghost or something present. There was this old abandoned factory where me and some friends went wandering through, and you would turn your head every thirty seconds because you'd feel like you were being followed or that someone was just behind you. But who knows, there are a lot of weird and interesting things in this world.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Stefanrsb on June 20, 2012, 12:42:51 am
I've been thinking that they're real till recently. I was watching lot of shows related on showing them or etc. It all looks just a bit creepy, but it helps.
I actually with help of those shows found out that they don't exist. On shows they are just showed with special effects or something. In real life, they are our imagination.

As for you, and your house. I agree with Gandalf, might be that you're not used to the house yet. Or there might be a chance that you have some insects in the floor or somewhere else, as well as some mice.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: CharlieKasper on June 20, 2012, 08:39:38 am
The memory is false, the only times its accurate it when your lucky. Saying that it is true with a zillion mistakes per nanosecond is like saying quantum fluctuations occur per rest mass of a circulatory pendicament.
lol.
Memory is never false it's simply inaccurate. If you really say that memory is false, I wonder how much of your facts are true, maybe none at all.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Exterminator on June 20, 2012, 04:00:13 pm
lol.
Memory is never false it's simply inaccurate. If you really say that memory is false, I wonder how much of your facts are true, maybe none at all.

Hmm, please do tell me the source of your great knowledge of the universe, or the ticket to the idiot house..
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: CharlieKasper on June 21, 2012, 02:11:39 pm
I don't have any great knowledge on the universe as i'm not interested in that. Saying memory is false is false itself. I did some search and i did not find any source where it says memory is false.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Roske. on June 21, 2012, 04:49:51 pm
What a silly thing!
Ghosts you say? ERROR 404 SERVER NOT FOUND..
Anyways, Noises that you hear can be caused from anything!
Mice, bugs(not game one's -,-), anything!
Soo, noany ghosts sir ;p :)
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 22, 2012, 02:36:23 pm

                                                             
Well, I've been thinking about this for a few years now, but I haven't actually cared enough to bring it up. I don't really know the answer of it, but.. If ghosts are real, how come they aren't appearing in the exact second you hear anything similiar to it? From where does ghosts come from anyways? I'm guessing it is people's dead souls that stays in the area they passed away from. And keep disturbing anyone that comes there. (Often occurs in houses where they actually have died in - I've noticed it.)

People often say that you shouldn't believe in ghosts at all, because they don't ' exist '. But they really do, because I have been through a situation like that, once in a house that has been abandoned for at least 20+ years. I am not a guy that actually notices anything when I am asleep, but now it feels like I am being '' harmed '' by ghosts that are in my room. Sometimes I hear strange noises just a few metres away from my room, and sometimes downstairs.. I don't really know if this house is haunted or not, because I have been bothered with these kinds of things for at least 3 months now, and I can't sleep well anymore. I wake up more than 3 times a night, just because of this, I don't understand from where they come from. And what they want from you..

Any ideas?

                                                         
             IF YOU BOTHER TO READ, YOU WILL GET A SCIENTIFIC EXPLENATION ON WY GHOSTS CANT EXIST!!!



Ghosts are "BEINGS" that can think, make decisions, act like real humans, just that they are made of so called "ectoplasm".
WAKE UP! Being that is not made of a SOLID material is NOT even a being. Where from does his decision come from? Ghosts dont have nervouse system, they dont have brain, and, they SERIOUSLY cant walk trough walls. In order to walk trough wals, Electrons, that go around ATOMS MUST NOT go around an atom.

The reason that all elements are solid, or liquid or in gas station are becouse they are consisted of atoms whos electrons move around atoms. Imagine a windmill. Now lets say that the windmill is atom. Core of "atom" is in the middle, the place where the blades are put togeather. If the blades dont spin, you can walk between tham, infact, anything can go between them. If it moves at big speed, you can try to move trough it, but you will be repeled. Now why can we walk trough GASES? It is simple because gasses have small amount of atoms spraed on big surface, so you can walk trough it. Now gas cant go trough walls. Why? Whell, it is still composed of atoms whose ELECTRONS circle the atom at great speeds. If those electrons stopped moving, it would be like the stopped windmill, and we could go trough it. Or in our case, we could litterealy go trough walls, and, if that happened we would INSTANTLY fall into the earths center, where gravity would stop us from falling further. Got it?

So because of stated above, if ghosts were real, they couldnt go around, they would just fall into the center of earth, where they would become vaperised. Got it? Explained scientificly, GHOST DO NOT EXIST, GET OVER IT :D
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Atticus Finch on June 22, 2012, 02:49:24 pm
Ghosts are exist if you think they are exist, they aren't if you don't think they are exist. It all ends on mind because human beings haven't been able to explain extra-terrestrial things. That means if you can't prove otherwise, you can't false something but you can't also say this case is true.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jcstodds on June 22, 2012, 02:53:47 pm
Electrons and sometimes protons can be ghosts when they quantum tunnel through an energy barrier. They scare the shit out of me when that happens.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jimmylicious on June 22, 2012, 03:07:10 pm
I think ghosts are real. I heard ALOT of stories from people that expereanced it. Not from some old superstitious old people, but from sane 22/23 year olds. Lights dont work, walking noises in the corridor, things disappearing, white blur figures walking around. Not in an abandoned house or anything, but in a big city. My friend moved to an apartment with hes 2 room mates. It was cheap and looked nice. After a week they started hearing noises, like someones walking or using utensils in the kitchen. When one of them stands up and turns the lights on, nothing. Everythings ok. They ignored the sounds for few days. But when they were studying and watching TV the lights went down. "Arnoldas asked, what the hell is going on and started looking outside if everyone lost theyr power, it was just us. Our neighbours had theyr window open, we could see the light. Then I turned back and saw a figure standing near our room, I fucking freaked out and when others turn it was gone. First I though my pupil expanded to collect more light and a driving in cars light flashed. But when we ware going to the corridor to turn the lights on we all fucking jumped after seeing a blur lights running to the next room. We quickly turned the lights on. We couldnt sleep whole night. Then we asked the neighbours after the night what the fuck is going on. So they told me that the owners of the apartment  were killed, they even had a newspaper to show it. The burglars killed the child and hes parents. After they got killed theyr relatives sold the place. But the owners keep changing because of ghosts."
I believe they're real. I don't think I ever came upon one, but there were many of times when I felt there was a ghost or something present. There was this old abandoned factory where me and some friends went wandering through, and you would turn your head every thirty seconds because you'd feel like you were being followed or that someone was just behind you. But who knows, there are a lot of weird and interesting things in this world.
And this, we knew an old house and used to break shit in there. But we kept thinking someones waching us.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: saberman on June 22, 2012, 03:12:54 pm
My school was built over a grave. My friends say they actually saw a ghost and the lights were flickering. So I do believe in ghosts.

Post Merge: June 22, 2012, 03:18:07 pm
                                                         
             IF YOU BOTHER TO READ, YOU WILL GET A SCIENTIFIC EXPLENATION ON WY GHOSTS CANT EXIST!!!

<some long post>
Science cannot explain ghosts and their nature in the first place.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alsatian on June 22, 2012, 03:32:34 pm
My school was built over a grave. My friends say they actually saw a ghost and the lights were flickering. So I do believe in ghosts.

Wait, wait, wait! So your friend apparently saw some supernatural entity, and based upon his word alone, you now believe in it too? Sound familiar to anyone else?  :lol:

Science cannot explain ghosts and their nature in the first place.

Science will be able to when someone is actually capable of proving their existence. Hearsay and little flashing orbs in photographs do not count.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: saberman on June 22, 2012, 03:57:28 pm
Wait, wait, wait! So your friend apparently saw some supernatural entity, and based upon his word alone, you now believe in it too? Sound familiar to anyone else?  :lol:
Obviously not.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Chris_Knight on June 22, 2012, 04:00:38 pm
My school building was an warzone in world of war 2 and was used as hospital were many people died,and near by was a grave were dead bodys were placed.  During all years I've been in the school,I never ever heard or seen anything suspicious regarding ghosts.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: saberman on June 22, 2012, 04:31:22 pm
My school building was an warzone in world of war 2 and was used as hospital were many people died,and near by was a grave were dead bodys were placed.  During all years I've been in the school,I never ever heard or seen anything suspicious regarding ghosts.
That is not enough proof to disprove other witnesses and beliefs of ghost.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alsatian on June 22, 2012, 06:44:40 pm
Obviously not.

Oh I think so.

That is not enough proof to disprove other witnesses and beliefs of ghost.

True, just like claims from people who have apparently seen ghosts bear no evidence what so ever.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jimmylicious on June 22, 2012, 08:57:40 pm
My school building was an warzone in world of war 2 and was used as hospital were many people died,and near by was a grave were dead bodys were placed.  During all years I've been in the school,I never ever heard or seen anything suspicious regarding ghosts.
Your presence scared them away  :roll:
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Chris_Knight on June 22, 2012, 09:14:43 pm
Your presence scared them away  :roll:
Yeah I work on ghostbusters and kill ghosts with green slime gun .
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 23, 2012, 11:59:54 am
My school was built over a grave. My friends say they actually saw a ghost and the lights were flickering. So I do believe in ghosts.

Post Merge: June 22, 2012, 03:18:07 pm
Science cannot explain ghosts and their nature in the first place.

Whell i have just explained you why they ghosts can exist. I used 100% pure science. Science does not support the existance of ghosts. Everyone can talk all the day, but science does not approve it. I think that you did not even BOTHER to read my post. I can bet my right hand. Please read it, and you will understand why ghosts cant exist.

I think ghosts are real. I heard ALOT of stories from people that expereanced it. Not from some old superstitious old people, but from sane 22/23 year olds. Lights dont work, walking noises in the corridor, things disappearing, white blur figures walking around. Not in an abandoned house or anything, but in a big city. My friend moved to an apartment with hes 2 room mates. It was cheap and looked nice. After a week they started hearing noises, like someones walking or using utensils in the kitchen. When one of them stands up and turns the lights on, nothing. Everythings ok. They ignored the sounds for few days. But when they were studying and watching TV the lights went down. "Arnoldas asked, what the hell is going on and started looking outside if everyone lost theyr power, it was just us. Our neighbours had theyr window open, we could see the light. Then I turned back and saw a figure standing near our room, I f**king freaked out and when others turn it was gone. First I though my pupil expanded to collect more light and a driving in cars light flashed. But when we ware going to the corridor to turn the lights on we all f**king jumped after seeing a blur lights running to the next room. We quickly turned the lights on. We couldnt sleep whole night. Then we asked the neighbours after the night what the f**k is going on. So they told me that the owners of the apartment  were killed, they even had a newspaper to show it. The burglars killed the child and hes parents. After they got killed theyr relatives sold the place. But the owners keep changing because of ghosts." And this, we knew an old house and used to break shit in there. But we kept thinking someones waching us.

Eh, what can i say. The first case:
It must have been some psychological problem that occured at one guy. Than, with his actions, others started to bealive in what he saw.

What you and your friends felt:

Heck, when i go down the street at night i feel like something is watching me too. And in my street nothing has happened EVER. No graveyards (lol, my street was built in 1974), no nothing. Yet i got that feeling. Why? Answer is that your heads were filled with CRAP when you were preaty young! You soaked it like a sponge! So, it stayed in your memory. Now because it stayed in your memory, you will always be aware of that even if you know that it is not real. Just deal with it! Ghosts are only in your imagination! PERIOD!
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: saberman on June 23, 2012, 01:29:12 pm
Oh I think so.
I have other reasons to believe in ghosts that I believe I should not disclose in public for personal reasons. That example I purely do not believe in.

Whell i have just explained you why they ghosts can exist. I used 100% pure science. Science does not support the existance of ghosts. Everyone can talk all the day, but science does not approve it. I think that you did not even BOTHER to read my post. I can bet my right hand. Please read it, and you will understand why ghosts cant exist.
I did, and if you read my post, I said Science cannot explain ghosts' nature and how they are, that is why no scientific explanation will work on ghosts. Therefore your explanation is invalid.

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Eh, what can i say. The first case:
It must have been some psychological problem that occured at one guy. Than, with his actions, others started to bealive in what he saw.
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Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Gandalf on June 23, 2012, 04:41:10 pm
Whell i have just explained you why they ghosts can exist. I used 100% pure science. Science does not support the existance of ghosts. Everyone can talk all the day, but science does not approve it. I think that you did not even BOTHER to read my post. I can bet my right hand. Please read it, and you will understand why ghosts cant exist.
Science does not support the existence of God, and does support homosexuality. You seem to pick what you want and ignore the rest.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Gandalf on June 23, 2012, 04:42:39 pm
I have other reasons to believe in ghosts that I believe I should not disclose in public for personal reasons. That example I purely do not believe in.

Unless it is a state secret or they are reading your messages, no reason not to.  :roll:
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Hellrocker on June 26, 2012, 08:22:57 pm
When I have problems with Ghosts or the Unnatural I resort to calling the Ghostbusters.  :lol:

Within the concept of religion God is refered to the "Holy Ghost" or "Holy Spirit." We also have souls which are in our vessels. In a way we are all like ghosts.

But there is a huge difference between paranormal and the unknown. Just don't try to claim that science has the answer to everything. Overall it is a personal opinion. To come to the truth is not just believing but experiencing. Conclusions can be made through what people experience.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Twister on June 26, 2012, 09:10:17 pm
Not ghosts, spirits; you can see them with the corner of your eye for an interval between 1-2 seconds, like a white curtain.For example, after my grand father's death, (2 years ago) his shadow remained printed in my room on the wall.I dunno if it has something in common with God or Satan, or maybe you're too scarred and the brain is playing with you.Or another example:when you're too scarred, you pray to God and while you're praying, you have the feeling that someone is behind you, you're body is getting cold and when you open your eyes, you just see for 1 second some drawings.It is your imagination, the mind controls your heart beatings and also your feelings.
A tip:search for Jan Van Helsing, psychology books and smoke weed (no jokes).
Or, if you got balls, one night turn off your lights the TV and put something about ''samadhi meditation'' and good luck :).

 
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alarba on June 27, 2012, 01:13:32 pm
ITT: Pot smokers
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 27, 2012, 10:26:26 pm
Go to a house that is fairly old and you might believe in ghosts. I do believe in ghosts, but I don't believe in those stupid ghost shows you see on TV.  :lol:
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Link9rly on June 28, 2012, 02:11:59 pm
You're experiencing Infrasound. It happened to me twice. Once, I went to the bathroom and a keyboard got bugged and left a very low note playing. It was way below my hearing range, but when I returned I felt like I was not alone in my room. Turned out to be just that because as soon as I found out my keyboard was stuck on a note and fixed it, "it" went away. Second time was in my new house. I have no idea what it was, but after some construction men came to my house to repair some small imperfections, it went away. I guess it was wind getting into a hole or something. Wikipedia says it better. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound)
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 28, 2012, 05:06:10 pm
In my job I've seen a few things you could call "supernatural" such as someone with no pulse suddenly start breathing but I have never had an experience with ghosts, a few RN's from my local hospital claim stuff like ghosts I'll see if I can pick up some stories for you.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Gandalf on June 28, 2012, 07:36:31 pm
In my job I've seen a few things you could call "supernatural" such as someone with no pulse suddenly start breathing but I have never had an experience with ghosts, a few RN's from my local hospital claim stuff like ghosts I'll see if I can pick up some stories for you.
If you experience someone who is breathing without having ap ulse that is indeed pretty strange  ;)
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Antonio. on June 28, 2012, 08:01:50 pm
In my job I've seen a few things you could call "supernatural" such as someone with no pulse suddenly start breathing but I have never had an experience with ghosts, a few RN's from my local hospital claim stuff like ghosts I'll see if I can pick up some stories for you.
>breathing with no pulse
???????


Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Torero on June 28, 2012, 10:59:55 pm
>breathing with no pulse
???????
He means his life stopped briefly, then came back to life within some seconds, I think that's what he's trying to say. ._.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 28, 2012, 11:31:15 pm
Yes but this bloke had had no pulse for a full minute and a half...
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Gandalf on June 30, 2012, 11:28:00 am
Yes but this bloke had had no pulse for a full minute and a half...
With such cases I am always interested in a follow-up. Did he suffer any type of memory loss ?
Did his family report him being 'changed' in character ?
Reason is a theory on souls that could cause such effect.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 30, 2012, 01:35:40 pm
From what I remember he was mostly unconscious for the rest of the trip to A&E, I'll dig up the full report for you sometime.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Gandalf on June 30, 2012, 02:53:40 pm
From what I remember he was mostly unconscious for the rest of the trip to A&E, I'll dig up the full report for you sometime.
Ok as you may encounter something in your job, here is the theory:
Souls are all around us and when a new life starts they enter the body to create the personality. That is not limited to people, but goes for animals (and possibly other living things) as well.
On death, the soul leaves the body and tries to find a new host. In general, the memories reside inside the body, though the soul may bind them as well.
When someone dies and is revived, the soul may have left and another soul taken the place. This can cause memory loss and changes in character and behaviour, as if the personality has suddenly changed.
Memories from before the incident may be present, but seem vague.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Huntsman on July 06, 2012, 04:20:35 pm
On the original topic.

It may seem naive, but i do believe in existance of ghosts , but not those spooky scary white shit. I mean, human spirits after death and stuff liek it.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 17, 2012, 07:18:18 pm
To end this thing fastly:

EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE is build outta matter (there is also antimater, but, i dont wanna get in to too complicated stuff).

MATTER IS SOLID, wich means you CANNOT go trough it, and IT CANNOT go trough you, OR ANYTHING.

GHOSTS on the other hand ARE SAID that they can go TROUGH solid matter. Therefore THEY ARE NOT BUILD OUT OF MATTER (or antimater).

EVERYTHING IS MADE OUTTA MATTER, and, since matter is solid, AND ghost is NOT, GHOSTS ARE NOT MADE OUT OF MATTER (or anti matter).

Since the matter (and anti matter) are the BUILDING BLOCKS OF EVERYTHING, and ghosts arent made of it, GHOSTS DO NOT exist.


PERIOD.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: My_Name_Is_Lan on September 17, 2012, 07:22:05 pm
ghosts exist! Ghost. is an ex-swat and he DO EXISTS! :3
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 17, 2012, 07:23:59 pm
Those "GHOSTS" exist. (FOR ALL THOSE who do not know what i am talking abou, i am talking about a video game based on a team called ghost team. Game is called ghost recon)
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: JDC on September 18, 2012, 02:59:42 am
To end this thing fastly:

EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE is build outta matter (there is also antimater, but, i dont wanna get in to too complicated stuff).

MATTER IS SOLID, wich means you CANNOT go trough it, and IT CANNOT go trough you, OR ANYTHING.

GHOSTS on the other hand ARE SAID that they can go TROUGH solid matter. Therefore THEY ARE NOT BUILD OUT OF MATTER (or antimater).

EVERYTHING IS MADE OUTTA MATTER, and, since matter is solid, AND ghost is NOT, GHOSTS ARE NOT MADE OUT OF MATTER (or anti matter).

Since the matter (and anti matter) are the BUILDING BLOCKS OF EVERYTHING, and ghosts arent made of it, GHOSTS DO NOT exist.


PERIOD.

There are particles such as neutrinos and others that could pass through hadron-based matter. In fact, billions of the countless neutrinos which bombard the earth have passed through you in the time it takes to read this sentence.

As for ghosts, I do not absolutely believe in the existence or non-existence of ghosts and other similar phenomena. However, even if I have been to several "haunted" and "active" places, I have yet to see a ghost encounter in action.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:19:38 pm
There are particles such as neutrinos and others that could pass through hadron-based matter. In fact, billions of the countless neutrinos which bombard the earth have passed through you in the time it takes to read this sentence.

As for ghosts, I do not absolutely believe in the existence or non-existence of ghosts and other similar phenomena. However, even if I have been to several "haunted" and "active" places, I have yet to see a ghost encounter in action.

I am aware about neutrinos, but neutrinos are SO SMALL that they basicly go trough empty space between atoms. BUT, NOTHING can be built ENTIRELY of neutrinos. That is just impossible. If IT was possible, THAN ghosts would exist. But it simply aint... Oh whell, that breaks the ghost bealivers.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 04:24:01 pm
Tell me when you have a dream about something charging towards your sleeping body, and then you wake up sweating.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:26:26 pm
Already had it. Eh, that is called a DREAM. A scenario that your brain makes for you while you are a sleep. And, also, that kinda of dreams that you talk about are called NIGHTMARES. T
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 19, 2012, 04:36:39 pm
Good, "he" must have had a lot of laughs by then.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Casper on September 19, 2012, 04:43:38 pm
Only Casper the ghost exists!  ;)
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: TiMoN on September 19, 2012, 04:47:54 pm
Been through something like this before, I am not sure about this but, Wood sometimes makes noises in the night, many people used to say that wood "shrink" in the night, that's why you hear this sounds, but I am not sure about this.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 04:51:11 pm
Been through something like this before, I am not sure about this but, Wood sometimes makes noises in the night, many people used to say that wood "shrink" in the night, that's why you hear this sounds, but I am not sure about this.

Trees shrinking? WIND...
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: TheRealStof on September 19, 2012, 05:01:29 pm
Do I have a story for you guys :) Well, one night when i was about 15, me and a few friends went to a local abandoned haunted mental asylum. It was a 30 degree celcius night and as soon as we got inside it turned to like 4 degrees. We were walking around, all the windows had been smashed. Medical stuff stolen, tables knocked over pretty much everything destroyed. As we were walking we kept hearing footsteps and screams, one of them sounded like it was saying "take me" but couldn't be sure. Then about half an hour into the walk we heard a loud bang and ringing noise, sounded like one of those metal bed pan thingys dropping on the ground and then the next one was the worst, we heard a window smash when every single window had been broken and we were the only people inside the asylum. So after a while everyone was really freaked out and this girl who was with us was nagging to go home so we were like, one last thing and we'll go home. We all sat down on milk crates and set up a table and my friend pulled out one of them weejee boards from his backpack in a box, almost looked like a board game hahah. So we sat down and started asking questions with all of our index fingers on the shotglass. Nothing responded, probably because we were trying to summon the ghost of 2pac hahaha but eventually we go a response from saying "is anyone there" and it moved to the yes. My friend asked what is your name and it read out James, at the time we were like OMGWTFSITMFS (omg wtfs is this motherfucking shit) But we were all keen to keep going, so we asked a question stupidy asking are you dead and it pointed to yes. And at the moment a massive gust of wind blew over us making the board fly and the shotglass smash and we all ran out of there pretty damn fast. And no, there couldn't have been any wind from outside in there because we were in a morgue room with no windows. And as we were running out to the car, 3 security guards caught us all and called the cops for trespassing.

And yes, we were all 100% sober, that's my story and ever since that night I've been a strong believer in the paranormal and the spiritual world.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 07:19:08 pm
Do I have a story for you guys :) Well, one night when i was about 15, me and a few friends went to a local abandoned haunted mental asylum. It was a 30 degree celcius night and as soon as we got inside it turned to like 4 degrees. We were walking around, all the windows had been smashed. Medical stuff stolen, tables knocked over pretty much everything destroyed. As we were walking we kept hearing footsteps and screams, one of them sounded like it was saying "take me" but couldn't be sure. Then about half an hour into the walk we heard a loud bang and ringing noise, sounded like one of those metal bed pan thingys dropping on the ground and then the next one was the worst, we heard a window smash when every single window had been broken and we were the only people inside the asylum. So after a while everyone was really freaked out and this girl who was with us was nagging to go home so we were like, one last thing and we'll go home. We all sat down on milk crates and set up a table and my friend pulled out one of them weejee boards from his backpack in a box, almost looked like a board game hahah. So we sat down and started asking questions with all of our index fingers on the shotglass. Nothing responded, probably because we were trying to summon the ghost of 2pac hahaha but eventually we go a response from saying "is anyone there" and it moved to the yes. My friend asked what is your name and it read out James, at the time we were like OMGWTFSITMFS (omg wtfs is this motherf**king shit) But we were all keen to keep going, so we asked a question stupidy asking are you dead and it pointed to yes. And at the moment a massive gust of wind blew over us making the board fly and the shotglass smash and we all ran out of there pretty damn fast. And no, there couldn't have been any wind from outside in there because we were in a morgue room with no windows. And as we were running out to the car, 3 security guards caught us all and called the cops for trespassing.

And yes, we were all 100% sober, that's my story and ever since that night I've been a strong believer in the paranormal and the spiritual world.

Interesting story, but i got a PREATY normal solution wich is that security workers saw you and wanted to mess with you a bit.

Than, about the sudden degree drop:

Whell, you were INSIDE, OFCOURSE that the temperature would fall down! Heh, when i walk into my OWN house on summer it is 5-10 degrees colder than outside, wich is a preaty normal thing.

Than the ghost borad:
You never tought that one of your friends maby moved the board?

Wind blowing out the board:

Wind, just playin wind. Also, you said that there was shatered window and gust blew in. Yea, preatty normal to me.

IDK seriously, what is so paranormal about that? I mean, you were in a morgue, and it was night, i understand that you were scared, but nothing paranormal tough.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: TheRealStof on September 20, 2012, 05:56:49 am
We were in the morgue parts with no windows, so no chance of a gust. I know for sure none of my friends moved the board because we asked a million other questions before it moved, why would it move right at the last few questions. It was a very fun night that I'll remember for the rest of my life and I know the security weren't inside for a fact. Because to get inside the only way is to cut the wire fence and go through a smashed window. And also they were sitting out there with the car in the middle of the dirt road, I doubt they would've left their car there if they were messing with us because not very smart to leave your car in the middle of a road and to go away from the road.

If you want to read other peoples stories from this place, google La Rundel Abandoned Mental Asylum
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 20, 2012, 08:21:37 pm
We were in the morgue parts with no windows, so no chance of a gust. I know for sure none of my friends moved the board because we asked a million other questions before it moved, why would it move right at the last few questions. It was a very fun night that I'll remember for the rest of my life and I know the security weren't inside for a fact. Because to get inside the only way is to cut the wire fence and go through a smashed window. And also they were sitting out there with the car in the middle of the dirt road, I doubt they would've left their car there if they were messing with us because not very smart to leave your car in the middle of a road and to go away from the road.

If you want to read other peoples stories from this place, google La Rundel Abandoned Mental Asylum

Yea, STILL, ghosts cannot exist.

Sciense does not support it. I am not a scientists, and i dont know about physics enough to disprove what you saw, but i GUARANTEE that there is a 100 precent logicall answer to what happened that night.

Yea, i am still not convinced. In order to bealive in ghosts, id want to see them with my own eyes.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: TheRealStof on September 21, 2012, 05:01:35 am
That's fair enough, that's your opinion and i respect that. I'm just sharing my story and saying how i became a believer in the paranormal, not trying to convince anyone of anything :) The only reason I think that all that stuff was real is cause we were sober. If we were under the influence i would've been like nah no way we were just trippin out :P
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Jellyfish on September 21, 2012, 06:09:15 am
Your own fear, combined with the echoes an abandoned building with little or no working vents may have been the reason for the delusion.
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 21, 2012, 01:24:48 pm
That's fair enough, that's your opinion and i respect that. I'm just sharing my story and saying how i became a believer in the paranormal, not trying to convince anyone of anything :) The only reason I think that all that stuff was real is cause we were sober. If we were under the influence i would've been like nah no way we were just trippin out :P

Hey, yeah, tsubasa is right! I never tought of vent! But, yea, id be preaty freaked out at that time, and probeably bealive in it. Eh, looks like that will never explaind, what you lived dude!
Title: Re: Are ghosts real or false?
Post by: Alb3rt on September 22, 2012, 03:03:52 am
GHOSTS dont exit OFC
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