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Title: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: AnnaR on June 21, 2012, 03:54:39 pm
Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18530670 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18530670)

Prosecution decision. Whats your opinion?
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Swig on June 22, 2012, 01:31:05 am
I think it's the right decision and a claim.
It's the prosecution's job to put down claim of insanity, as long as there is a doubt, and it is so big as it is now..

But I have good faith that the judges will choose the correct conclusion. As Engh said, it is not the public sense of justice, that should count here, but the evidence of sanity or not.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 28, 2012, 10:23:26 pm
That is stupid. I say execution with the most horreably painful death known to man kind. Because he is mad, HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH, WITHOUT EVEN A PROPER FUNERAL, JUST DROPPED SOMEWHERE IN WATER.

Huh, here is how the world runs:

Norway: Breivik kills 80-90 people.
Sentence: around 8 years.

USA: Megaupload shut down and its owner prosecuted for piracy.
Sentence: 25 years (WHAT THE FUCK?!)

Seriously WTF?!

Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Pandalink on June 28, 2012, 11:29:13 pm
Because he is mad
No, probably not.

Norway: Breivik kills 80-90 people.
Sentence: around 8 years.
20 years + legal loopholes to keep him in prison indefinitely*.

USA: Megaupload shut down and its owner prosecuted for piracy.
Sentence: 25 years (WHAT THE f**k?!)
The owner hasn't even been prosecuted yet, afaik.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 28, 2012, 11:32:36 pm
Duuuuuuuuuude! 80-90 PEOPLE GOT KILLED BY ONE MAN! In countries with NORMAL laws you get 20 yers for ONLY ONE MURRDER.

90 MURRDERS= MOST PAINFUL DEATH KNOWN TO HUMAN according to me!
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 28, 2012, 11:33:49 pm
Duuuuuuuuuude! 80-90 PEOPLE GOT KILLED BY ONE MAN! In countries with NORMAL laws you get 20 yers for ONLY ONE MURRDER.

90 MURRDERS= MOST PAINFUL DEATH KNOWN TO HUMAN according to me!

Normal countries doesn't equal countries with no democratic values, my friend. :)
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 28, 2012, 11:47:08 pm
Normal countries doesn't equal countries with no democratic values, my friend. :)

Yea, all that, but, that low sentence? IT IS JUST INSANE!
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 28, 2012, 11:49:18 pm
Yea, all that, but, that low sentence? IT IS JUST INSANE!

How is it insane? He will be in a mental institution the rest of his life...
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on June 28, 2012, 11:50:50 pm
How is it insane? He will be in a mental institution the rest of his life...

For rest of life? Ok, now that is justice. Tough he might do something stupid there, but, that is the good thing. Hidden away from eyes public eyes forever.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 28, 2012, 11:52:06 pm
For rest of life? Ok, now that is justice. Tough he might do something stupid there, but, that is the good thing. Hidden away from eyes public eyes forever.

Exactly. :)
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Pandalink on June 29, 2012, 01:14:12 am
Yea, all that, but, that low sentence? IT IS JUST INSANE!
What low sentence? Even if not sent to a mental institution, his ~20 year prison sentence will be extended to life using various legal loopholes.
Even if he does make it out some day, one of the ~160 parents will no doubt either murder him themselves or have him killed through other means.

How is it insane? He will be in a mental institution the rest of his life...
The time where he was declared sane was correct in my eyes. He is simply an evil person. Personally, I do not believe that an insane person can be evil, by definition.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Dolfagr on June 29, 2012, 01:40:17 pm
I hope he is not insane. He will be eating some pills every day, wearing some shitty white uniform and be with people who can't even interact with, forever alone..that's the worst punishment.

Then again considering Norweigian prisons have wi-fi and xbox's he might not have a bad time.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 29, 2012, 02:20:35 pm
Then again considering Norweigian prisons have wi-fi and xbox's he might not have a bad time.

You're right, but he is a pasient at a mental hospital now, not in prison.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Void on June 29, 2012, 06:01:59 pm
You're right, but he is a pasient at a mental hospital now, not in prison.
This is still not what the people want. Being a patient in a mental institution/prison is far better than firing squad or hanging.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Gandalf on June 29, 2012, 06:04:15 pm
Once again in civilzed countries a punishment for crimes is not to give revenge to the victims.
That is for barbaric societies.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on June 29, 2012, 06:09:52 pm
I don't think he's insane.
He fought for his ideas and thinks it was worth it.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Void on June 29, 2012, 06:11:59 pm
I don't think he's insane.
He fought for his ideas and thinks it was worth it.
We can't value insanity or normality in an insane world. Remember, he is not trialed for insanity but for killing people. This insanity charade is just media sensationalism.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 30, 2012, 12:23:03 am
I don't think he's insane.
He fought for his ideas and thinks it was worth it.

There's no "fought" here. His actions of killing innocent teenagers is insane.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on June 30, 2012, 12:25:39 am
There's no "fought" here. His actions of killing innocent teenagers is insane.
He would do anything it takes to achieve his goal.
The way he achieved it is not literally a versus fight, but he did do what he wanted.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 30, 2012, 12:27:28 am
He would do anything it takes to achieve his goal.
The way he achieved it is not literally a versus fight, but he did do what he wanted.

Sure, but it was unnessecary to kill two of my friends from politics and 80+ others. :)
I admire his thoughts, and that he has spend so much time reading and studying, but this is a type of insanity itself.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on June 30, 2012, 12:34:10 am
Sure, but it was unnessecary to kill two of my friends from politics and 80+ others. :)
I admire his thoughts, and that he has spend so much time reading and studying, but this is a type of insanity itself.
I'm sorry to hear about your friends.
It was not unnecessary in his "mission" to get where he is now.
If he would give speeches nobody would listen to him.
What he has done is terrible for the relatives indeed but he gave his "speech" with it.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Danny_Leo on June 30, 2012, 12:59:52 am
I would gather victims families give them some knives and bats, and let them chase his psychopathic neonazi ass all over the institution he's being held in.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Pandalink on June 30, 2012, 08:55:01 am
psychopathic neonazi ass
neonazi
What?

There's no "fought" here. His actions of killing innocent teenagers is insane.
Once again, I still think that he is a sane, but evil, man.
An insane man cannot be evil by very definition, as he is insane and thus not accountable for his own actions.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Swig on June 30, 2012, 07:20:43 pm
The verdict isn't ruled yet, but if he get sentenced to compulsory mental health care, He will be held on a complete new hospital wing, in the prison area, where he now sits. I read in the newspaper today, that this will cost Norway around 25-30 million NOK (150000000$) yearly.

It is we who pay money to state which of course are left with the bill.. long live norway...
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Danny_Leo on June 30, 2012, 09:28:13 pm
What?
Wikipedia source > "Breivik was characterized by analysts as being a right-wing extremist with anti-Muslim views and a hatred of Islam."
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on June 30, 2012, 11:46:37 pm
I would gather victims families give them some knives and bats, and let them chase his psychopathic neonazi ass all over the institution he's being held in.

Seriously, what is it with you Croatians/Serbs and violence? Beating up children, taking violent revenge... What's next? Blowing up the amusement park because you didn't get salt on your popcorn?
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Void on July 01, 2012, 12:04:19 am
Seriously, what is it with you Croatians/Serbs and violence? Beating up children, taking violent revenge... What's next? Blowing up the amusement park because you didn't get salt on your popcorn?
I already told you, stop generalizing. Use their individual names and stop presenting the two nations as savages.
Last warning.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on July 01, 2012, 12:05:59 am
I already told you, stop generalizing. Use their individual names and stop presenting the two nations as savages.
Last warning.

Well, 5/5 of the Serbian/Croatian people I've spoken to on this forum are positive to violence, so I see no reason why I shouldn't... But alright, I'll make a list
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Danny_Leo on July 01, 2012, 12:46:01 am
Well, 5/5 of the Serbian/Croatian people I've spoken to on this forum are positive to violence, so I see no reason why I shouldn't... But alright, I'll make a list
To be honest I'm not a violent person, nor I go around provoking fights or I attacked someone for no reason, I was in maybe few fights in my life and I haven't hurted seriously a one person. But I do support death penalty, and I believe that some people deserve a bullet to the forehead, but those really did some horrible shit.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on July 01, 2012, 04:44:56 pm
:rofl:
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 19, 2012, 07:32:06 pm
Seriously, what is it with you Croatians/Serbs and violence? Beating up children, taking violent revenge... What's next? Blowing up the amusement park because you didn't get salt on your popcorn?

YOU did NOT see the MASS killing of Serbs/Croats on both sides. Thats why you CANT talk about that, because YOU DONT KNOW SHIT bout it. NOW THIS TOPIC is NOT about Serbs/Croats but about BRAVICK!

Now, discuss about it, not us.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: Aksel on September 19, 2012, 10:17:43 pm
YOU did NOT see the MASS killing of Serbs/Croats on both sides. Thats why you CANT talk about that, because YOU DONT KNOW SHIT bout it. NOW THIS TOPIC is NOT about Serbs/Croats but about BRAVICK!

Now, discuss about it, not us.


It's very relevant, as you solve every problem with violence, instead of tolerance.
Title: Re: Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on September 20, 2012, 08:39:10 pm
It's very relevant, as you solve every problem with violence, instead of tolerance.

Spilling so much blood cant be tolerated. Altought i wish it could, it cant, and it never will be. Not everything can be solved peacefully. Thats just the illusion that you people in EU live in. World is not all rainbows, ponies, paece and tollerance you know. It will never be.

Programing of people's minds is almoast complete, secret societies and govermends are almoast going to be victoriuse, and when you guys figure it out in 10-20 years, its gonna be too late...
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