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Title: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 27, 2012, 03:08:23 pm
i have a question about rs5 , as i hear all are talking for money will be reseted but house and bizz will be reseted to ?
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: .Mario. on June 27, 2012, 03:10:43 pm
Yes, and I wanna know.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Gandalf on June 27, 2012, 03:19:38 pm
If we reset everything, we reset everything. But we will consider some long standing traditions.
So any new mafia aiming the Gvardia HQ migth very well fail.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 27, 2012, 04:35:32 pm
about new familys , we need to start from 0 without hq or operation center ? Becouse i make a hard work to own the main hq (bizz) in LV , and my house (Missionary hills) . So in short way we will be in road .
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 27, 2012, 07:29:33 pm
Maybe could we show evidence that the property was ours before said reset would we be entitled to the property?
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Cyril on June 27, 2012, 07:43:44 pm
I will lose GS10  :cry: :cry: :bye:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Karmps. on June 27, 2012, 11:23:26 pm
I will lose GS10  :cry: :cry: :bye:
Cyril you will keep it.  ;) :evil:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Louis H on June 28, 2012, 12:26:45 am
Cyril you will keep it.  ;) :evil:

This is why everyone is confused, one person says one thing another person says something else :/
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Ted on June 28, 2012, 12:28:14 am
This is why you pay attention to what Gandalf and co say not what others say.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on June 28, 2012, 12:44:51 am
This is why you pay attention to what Gandalf and co say not what others say.

Could I get a link to this, I don't believe I have seen this..
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Karmps. on June 28, 2012, 02:59:23 am
This is why you pay attention to what Gandalf and co say not what others say.
>>> What he said. <<<
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: AnnaR on June 28, 2012, 01:38:20 pm
wow people seems very scared to loose their assests.
remember its a game with viritual geen numbers on a screen, no worries
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 28, 2012, 01:52:58 pm
wow people seems very scared to loose their assests.
remember its a game with viritual geen numbers on a screen, no worries
Thank You
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Murt on June 28, 2012, 08:09:22 pm
I want to keep my Idlewood CRIB!  :evil:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: McGarrett on June 28, 2012, 10:56:49 pm
Guys don't be so worried. Everything will be reseted. That means that you have exactly the same chance getting better assets before others. Think about the paydays and lotto's that will be given in the opening of RS5. It will be flooded. It says itself.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Rusty on June 28, 2012, 11:36:21 pm
Think about the paydays and lotto's that will be given in the opening of RS5. It will be flooded. It says itself.

That'd just be a poor move if they were to flood the opening day(s) or RS5 with Payday's and Lotto's.  If more ways of earning cash is coming then they don't need to hold $50,000+ lotto's or give us $1,000 payday's.  Player's should be working for money not waiting for those who can to issue out money.

How much starting money do we receive once RS5 (since money and such is being reset (?)) begins? 
$10,000 like it is now?  Or more?

Anyway, a reset will breathe a life of freshness into the server folks will be coming up will all sorts of idea's to roleplay. 
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Conroy on June 29, 2012, 12:06:44 am
There is a new economy system planned which should allow us to regulate the flow of money throughout the server
This means lottos and paydays which are generated from managers will no longer take place because that money is simply appearing out of no where
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Astaroth on June 29, 2012, 01:59:52 am
There is a new economy system planned which should allow us to regulate the flow of money throughout the server
This means lottos and paydays which are generated from managers will no longer take place because that money is simply appearing out of no where
Ok so no lottos or paydays, but eh. Events is something that makes Argo fun from times to times and attracts more and more people in it. Too lazy to explain but you know how events go and why people show up on them. Well, most of them.

To you guys who are scared about losing your cash/property:
Always remember that there is someone losing money that they have worked for years to get.
If you lose 1mil or 2 you should be happy you are starting over and you get the chance to
get on a higher level than before, get more money etc etc. Let's say GANDALF was a normal player that had 50,000,000$ARD on his account and he has no official family to keep his HQ or w/e. And you are jelly of his money. Well, the same "GANDALF" starts over with 10k or whatever the starting money will be but eh, just like you! so it's your choice if you will work hard to be the first place on Argonath.
In a simple way:
You get a chance to get on a higher level than someone who had 50mil on their account.


No point of being nervous, be happy that the RS5 is happening. You might get the chance to own Melvin's villa. Or a house you always liked!

Regards,
AstarothSforza
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Conroy on June 29, 2012, 02:05:17 am
Ok so no lottos or paydays, but eh.

I didn't say there wouldn't be any lottos or paydays, reread what I said
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Astaroth on June 29, 2012, 02:07:12 am
I didn't say there wouldn't be any lottos or paydays, reread what I said
Fuke this alcohol. Sorry ^^
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Karmps. on June 29, 2012, 02:46:19 am
Fuke this alcohol.
I know right...  :neutral:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 29, 2012, 10:12:38 am
No point of being nervous, be happy that the RS5 is happening. You might get the chance to own Melvin's villa. Or a house you always liked!

Thats my problem , becouse i own the House I have always loved and bizz (hq) But lets see lets hope i take again my things after making money
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Gandalf on June 29, 2012, 10:31:55 am
That'd just be a poor move if they were to flood the opening day(s) or RS5 with Payday's and Lotto's.  If more ways of earning cash is coming then they don't need to hold $50,000+ lotto's or give us $1,000 payday's.  Player's should be working for money not waiting for those who can to issue out money.

How much starting money do we receive once RS5 (since money and such is being reset (?)) begins? 
$10,000 like it is now?  Or more?

Anyway, a reset will breathe a life of freshness into the server folks will be coming up will all sorts of idea's to roleplay. 

A player without a passport will receive less when he joins.
But there will be a new amount issued with your passport.
Multi-account cheaters will have to work a lot harder  :lol:

Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 29, 2012, 10:37:39 am
Multi-account cheaters will have to work a lot harder  :lol:

All have to wrok Harder.

Let's hope when I kidnap some Inocent Hostage , Cops will Pay about his Life.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Louis H on June 29, 2012, 10:49:18 am
All have to wrok Harder.

Let's hope when I kidnap some Inocent Hostage , Cops will Pay about his Life.

If people actually got paid for that then people would be being kidnapped 24/7
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 29, 2012, 10:51:42 am
If people actually got paid for that then people would be being kidnapped 24/7
You are COP and if you save hostage life you can be a hero 24/7
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Caltson on June 29, 2012, 01:17:33 pm
You are COP and if you save hostage life you can be a hero 24/7

And you can become a Multimillionaire?  :lol:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 29, 2012, 01:51:30 pm
And you can become a Multimillionaire?  :lol:
And I can become again a Multimillionaire  :)
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Gandalf on June 29, 2012, 04:46:23 pm
All have to wrok Harder.

Let's hope when I kidnap some Inocent Hostage , Cops will Pay about his Life.
In reality the time Cops pay for any hostage are ear to zero.
Who pays for a hostage is family.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Freedom on June 29, 2012, 05:24:50 pm
Long lasting traditions
Hopefully I get to keep my biz I've had for 3-4 years now :razz:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Johan_S on June 29, 2012, 07:18:50 pm
Who pays for a hostage is family.

If we kidnap a Sir from FBI , we will ask money from is frends. If this person is important maby the City mayor or FBI chief want him alive and they will pay, i think !
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on June 29, 2012, 07:33:31 pm
If we reset everything, we reset everything. But we will consider some long standing traditions.
So any new mafia aiming the Gvardia HQ migth very well fail.

What about Coast Guard HQ in Bayside
and
Red County Farm?


Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Alfreddo. on June 29, 2012, 07:34:29 pm
If we kidnap a Sir from FBI , we will ask money from is frends. If this person is important maby the City mayor or FBI chief want him alive and they will pay, i think !

This topic ain't about robbing sir :P

I'll just sell my house and cars and use the money :D
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: alex4888 on July 03, 2012, 09:14:02 am
my hotel!my house!my everything!!
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Thomas_A on July 03, 2012, 06:00:45 pm
I will lose GS10  :cry: :cry: :bye:
If you have a problem, If none else can help and If you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team  :war:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: memolito on July 06, 2012, 10:41:22 am
Hey, I'm Sorry. I Might Not Have A Say In This Because I've Been In The Server For 3 Days.. But Today EliteTerm Taught Me About This RS5 Thing And He Gave Me An Idea Of What It's Like, So I Know A Bit About It, And I've Read This Entire Topic. Anyways, This Is The First Time I See Something Like This In A Community, So Here I Go With My Opinion(: I Just Wanted To Say, That If Everyone's Account Is Reset, And Everyone Else Will Lose Their Houses And Stores, Why Should A Guy Who Has Been Here For 4 Years, Get To Keep His Mansion, or 1 Million Dollar House? Well I Think It's No Fair For The Rest. I Think, Why Should A Mafia Keep Their HQ And A Normal Resident Lose Theirs? Are They More Important Than The Rest Of The Community? Is A Normal, Hard-Working, HONEST Working Man Less Valuable Than A Mafioso? Feel Free To Reply To Me, Please, And Thank You  :cop:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Gandalf on July 06, 2012, 12:00:47 pm
Hey, I'm Sorry. I Might Not Have A Say In This Because I've Been In The Server For 3 Days.. But Today EliteTerm Taught Me About This RS5 Thing And He Gave Me An Idea Of What It's Like, So I Know A Bit About It, And I've Read This Entire Topic. Anyways, This Is The First Time I See Something Like This In A Community, So Here I Go With My Opinion(: I Just Wanted To Say, That If Everyone's Account Is Reset, And Everyone Else Will Lose Their Houses And Stores, Why Should A Guy Who Has Been Here For 4 Years, Get To Keep His Mansion, or 1 Million Dollar House? Well I Think It's No Fair For The Rest. I Think, Why Should A Mafia Keep Their HQ And A Normal Resident Lose Theirs? Are They More Important Than The Rest Of The Community? Is A Normal, Hard-Working, HONEST Working Man Less Valuable Than A Mafioso? Feel Free To Reply To Me, Please, And Thank You  :cop:
Lets say it this way. If you have lived in a house all your life, and due to the government taking away everyones money and possessions, would you find it fair that someone else got your house without you having a chance to get it back ?
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Jack White on July 06, 2012, 12:33:05 pm
Lets say it this way. If you have lived in a house all your life, and due to the government taking away everyones money and possessions, would you find it fair that someone else got your house without you having a chance to get it back ?
Thats what happens to everyone that doesn't own a mafia HQ.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: memolito on July 06, 2012, 01:37:40 pm
Lets say it this way. If you have lived in a house all your life, and due to the government taking away everyones money and possessions, would you find it fair that someone else got your house without you having a chance to get it back ?
And So I Quote The Following:
Thats what happens to everyone that doesn't own a mafia HQ.

Post Merge: July 06, 2012, 01:43:33 pm
Oh And Gandalf, You're Talking As If This Was Real Life, You're Referring To In Game, As If It Were Real Life. While All Along I've Heard This.
remember its a game with viritual geen numbers on a screen, no worries
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Gandalf on July 06, 2012, 01:57:44 pm
And So I Quote The Following:
Post Merge: July 06, 2012, 01:43:33 pm
Oh And Gandalf, You're Talking As If This Was Real Life, You're Referring To In Game, As If It Were Real Life. While All Along I've Heard This.
If you quote what other players say, you are ignoring the information from owners.
First of all there has not been any official message, or even an official decision, on a reset.
So everything a player says is pure speculation.

What have the owners said so far ?
IF (and that means IF, not WHEN) there is a reset:
- players will lose all their possessions and inventory
- they will have to register again
- all money, houses, business, weapons, drugs and whatever else will be removed
- the /whenmade (date of registration) will be reset

So every player will be a new player.

Does that sound like people get to keep their house ? Nope.

Now to what confuses people:
- People might be given a possibility to reclaim their old property.
Does that mean they will get it for free? No way. They will have to work for it, just as any other new player. The only thing is that if a mafia has had their HQ at the same place for 5 years, they should get the opportunity to have it their in the new scripts as well. But if they do not work to get it and are not in game, they will lose the opportunity.

- Official groups will be given support
That means that group who have the official status for supporting Argonath over a long time will get some extra benefits. It does not mean they will not have to work.

Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: BlackEagle on July 06, 2012, 02:08:15 pm
Well I Think It's No Fair For The Rest.
Fairness doesn't mean equality, fairness means giving people what they deserve.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: memolito on July 06, 2012, 03:14:09 pm
Now to what confuses people:
- People might be given a possibility to reclaim their old property.
Does that mean they will get it for free? No way. They will have to work for it, just as any other new player. The only thing is that if a mafia has had their HQ at the same place for 5 years, they should get the opportunity to have it their in the new scripts as well. But if they do not work to get it and are not in game, they will lose the opportunity.
But You Just Said They Wouldn't Have A Chance To Get It Back?  :trust: Here :
Lets say it this way. If you have lived in a house all your life, and due to the government taking away everyones money and possessions, would you find it fair that someone else got your house without you having a chance to get it back ?
Oh Boy, Contradictions, Contradictions.
Of Course Everyone Will Get A Chance To Get Their Properties Back, Won't They? Everyone Will Be Raging About The Money.. JUST To Get Their Properties Back IF.. Only IF There Is A Reset. But I'm Starting To See The Idea Here, 5 Years Is A LOT OF TIME Spent On Argonath, Raising All That Money, Raising A Reputation For Yourself, And To Lose It Like That, In A Blink Of An Eye.. I'd Feel Doomed. If I Owned A Gas Station, And Someone Else Bought It Before I Could Reach The Budget, I Would Be Sad.. Depressed And I Would Feel Regret. But You Are The Owner, And I'm 100% Positive That You Will Find A Way To Make It Fair For All Of The Players. No Doubt In My Mind. :girl:

Fairness doesn't mean equality, fairness means giving people what they deserve.

So You Are Saying That Just Because People Deserve Something It Should Be Fair To Only Those Who Deserve It? You My Friend, (With No Offense Intended) Are Incorrect, Fairness IS And Always Will Be Equality. Think Outside The Box.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: BlackEagle on July 06, 2012, 03:47:05 pm
and Owners are Russian doesn't mean Argonath is ruled with communism :rules:

People with similar mentality to yours often just sit down and pray to god for wealth and health, instead of going out and doing something themselves. If you want something, you work for it and take it. From what I've witnessed in 4 years I can say that the same rule is effective in Argonath too.

Fairness IS And Always Will Be Equality.
2012 and some people still have this hippie ideas..
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: memolito on July 06, 2012, 04:05:00 pm
and Owners are Russian doesn't mean Argonath is ruled with communism :rules:
Yet They Order You To Speak English, And Only English In The Server.. Hmm.


People With Similar Mentality To Mines Just
sit down and pray to god for wealth and health, instead of going out and doing something themselves.
Right? What A Contradiction, Since You're The One Who Has Sat On A Computer All Day For The Past 4 Years Of You Life Doing Nothing, Just Playing Good Ole' Argonath, Huh?  :lol:
Do Not Aim At Me, As I Have A Stronger, Much More Developed Mentality Than Yours. My Apologies If You Took My Last Post, Or Even This One As An Offense, As I Said Before, No Offense Intended Towards You Nor Anyone Else Inside Of This Community.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: BlackEagle on July 06, 2012, 04:08:12 pm
Yet They Order You To Speak English, And Only English In The Server.. Hmm.


People With Similar Mentality To Mines Just Right? What A Contradiction, Since You're The One Who Has Sat On A Computer All Day For The Past 4 Years Of You Life Doing Nothing, Just Playing Good Ole' Argonath, Huh?  :lol:
Do Not Aim At Me, As I Have A Stronger, Much More Developed Mentality Than Yours. My Apologies If You Took My Last Post, Or Even This One As An Offense, As I Said Before, No Offense Intended Towards You Nor Anyone Else Inside Of This Community.
Shit, we got a badass! Alright bro you got me I'm out of this thread.
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Kaze on July 06, 2012, 04:12:20 pm
>some random guy talks like hes a developer
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Gandalf on July 06, 2012, 04:24:45 pm
Yet They Order You To Speak English, And Only English In The Server.. Hmm.

We are an international server, and English is one of the most international languages.
Chinese would be another one, but not many people here speak that.  :lol:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: memolito on July 06, 2012, 04:39:55 pm
Pff! English Should Be Universal!    :D
"This Is a Universal Server, Only English In The Server"  :rofl:
Title: Re: house and bizz - rs5
Post by: Julio. on July 06, 2012, 04:55:15 pm
In reality the time Cops pay for any hostage are ear to zero.
Who pays for a hostage is family.

Yesyesyes

I am always saying this, but nobody listens :(
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