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Title: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: eymas on July 06, 2012, 01:11:52 pm
Okay. To the point quickly;

A suspect is sitting in LSPD. waiting for an investigation. If we are about to start. NO ONE may enter the room.

I am furious that some even dared to SHOOT the suspect to DEATH while sitting on an investigation

If you see it happen: /report the killing officer because this is plain DM. Or contact SAPD Command about this.


Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Gandalf on July 06, 2012, 01:45:02 pm
No desk staff. No desk staff. No desk staff.
Got the problem?
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Teddy on July 06, 2012, 01:58:45 pm
You know this thing, Freecup? Freecop! Thats it. Rather than getting angry, the cop was most likely a new guy on the job. Everyone has to learn at some point. I wouldn't even report the guy. I'd get his ID and try to communicate with him and teach him about these kinds of things. You can't expect people to join the server and automatically know the ropes.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on July 06, 2012, 05:52:12 pm
You know this thing, Freecup? Freecop! Thats it. Rather than getting angry, the cop was most likely a new guy on the job. Everyone has to learn at some point. I wouldn't even report the guy. I'd get his ID and try to communicate with him and teach him about these kinds of things. You can't expect people to join the server and automatically know the ropes.
I personally havent been on PD duty before shouldnt there be some kind of tutorial thing? It would prevent most of these problems.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Roske. on July 06, 2012, 06:03:20 pm
I've witnessed this crime.
And I work as "Desk Staff"
I found that fun(somewhat).
Anywhat these guys just stormed and killed the poor soul :|.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: memphisraines on July 06, 2012, 06:15:23 pm
I personally havent been on PD duty before shouldnt there be some kind of tutorial thing? It would prevent most of these problems.

^^ This.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 06, 2012, 06:25:20 pm
No desk staff. No desk staff. No desk staff.
Got the problem?

ive always thought that having staff to jail suspects would be a good idea, Untill I realised that I am the only one who would want to do it because I have worked in that setting in IRL XD, No one else finds that fun to do but me.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Gandalf on July 06, 2012, 07:31:21 pm
I personally havent been on PD duty before shouldnt there be some kind of tutorial thing? It would prevent most of these problems.
How about DESK STAFF to teach new guys ?
Show them the locker room
Show them the jails
Show them the desk
Show them the donut safe
Show them the investigation rooms
DESK STAFF could teach new guys so much more...
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 06, 2012, 07:37:11 pm
How about DESK STAFF to teach new guys ?
Show them the locker room
Show them the jails
Show them the desk
Show them the donut safe
Show them the investigation rooms
DESK STAFF could teach new guys so much more...

I will talk to Paul about it. Im perfectly willing to do it with some nice RP attached to it, the trick is getting others on-board ;)

Ill have to get transfered to a different department though, Im stuck out in Fort arson and I dont think we even have a desk.... Well.. Gibson uses the one we have as a bed when he gets drunk so I certainly can't use that :D
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on July 06, 2012, 07:45:09 pm
Sounds like a good idea, I'd vouch for it.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on July 07, 2012, 04:37:11 am
How about DESK STAFF to teach new guys ?
Show them the locker room
Show them the jails
Show them the desk
Show them the donut safe
Show them the investigation rooms
DESK STAFF could teach new guys so much more...

I don't see any reason why everyone from the SAPD, FBI and the regular's from the ARPD won't show new players around. Unless they are lazy and will get their badge revoked if they do not have the same respect and loyalty towards ARPD inexperienced officers like they do for superiors.  :conf:

However, Jaaskaa and myself have a different structure to teach new players for RS5 produced by you .. unless it has been changed  :lol:
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on July 07, 2012, 04:43:51 am
Again as a civilian not an officer I cant really relate but as a civilian I can say I have more trust and respect towards regulars, yesterday is one of the reasons why..
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on July 07, 2012, 04:47:52 am
Again as a civilian not an officer I cant really relate but as a civilian I can say I have more trust and respect towards regulars, yesterday is one of the reasons why..

Indeed.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Karmps. on July 07, 2012, 06:41:18 am
Could anyone explain me about ''desk staff''?
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Jimmy_Bowling on July 07, 2012, 08:03:48 am
No desk staff. No desk staff. No desk staff.
Got the problem?

24 hours in a day if we can make shifts for each officer to sign up for one hour a day each and pay them 15k each for being there to man the desk I think we could fix this.

Officers Must Complete Following Tasks


- All Investigations that come into building (Means a unbiased officer investigating)
- SAPD Radio Dispatch
- Clean toilets
- Keep Cars under LSPD Parked Properly and refueled
- Help ARPD Officers
- Teach New Officers how to go on duty
- Document all Suspects Processed, Jailed, and Cleared of Crimes
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Gandalf on July 07, 2012, 10:15:45 am
However, Jaaskaa and myself have a different structure to teach new players for RS5 produced by you .. unless it has been changed  :lol:
Sshhhhhh..... ;) That is because I know that desk staff is not going to be a reality, although I might make some additional suggestion.

The main problem as you see from the post of Jimmy is that players play for money, not for roleplay and meeting/teaching others.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: eymas on July 07, 2012, 10:25:19 am
Sshhhhhh..... ;) That is because I know that desk staff is not going to be a reality, although I might make some additional suggestion.

The main problem as you see from the post of Jimmy is that players play for money, not for roleplay and meeting/teaching others.
I agree with all this.
And if RS5 would reset the stats... I don't want to think of what would happen.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 07, 2012, 10:50:48 am
Sshhhhhh..... ;) That is because I know that desk staff is not going to be a reality, although I might make some additional suggestion.

The main problem as you see from the post of Jimmy is that players play for money, not for roleplay and meeting/teaching others.

Well actually Gandalf, Skyhawk and I saw your post and pitched the idea to Paul about having a support division that handles desk work, dispatch, prisoner affairs... But if your saying there will be a script in place we can just forget about it. We had ways of attracting players to the idea :P
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Gandalf on July 07, 2012, 12:18:06 pm
Well actually Gandalf, Skyhawk and I saw your post and pitched the idea to Paul about having a support division that handles desk work, dispatch, prisoner affairs... But if your saying there will be a script in place we can just forget about it. We had ways of attracting players to the idea :P
Forget about the script. I have launched an idea in upper command to see if we can make it attractive in RS5 without having to resort to manual intervention as we would currently need.
While there is some major change in RS5 expected, that does not mean that desk staff would become unneeded or unwanted.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Roske. on July 07, 2012, 01:44:12 pm
Sshhhhhh..... ;) That is because I know that desk staff is not going to be a reality, although I might make some additional suggestion.

The main problem as you see from the post of Jimmy is that players play for money, not for roleplay and meeting/teaching others.
I'm not onduty so I can get $$$ Out of it, I'm on-duty Because I love it, not because of the Money...
Anyhow Desk Staff, cool story :p.
But, it would be AWSOME if we had Desk Staff.
*Wonders away thinking of the endless Role-Play...*
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: eymas on July 07, 2012, 02:17:12 pm
I'm not onduty so I can get $$$ Out of it, I'm on-duty Because I love it, not because of the Money...
Anyhow Desk Staff, cool story :p.
But, it would be AWSOME if we had Desk Staff.
*Wonders away thinking of the endless Role-Play...*
Same here. Copduty holds me busy. and I'd like if there was a rank "Desk staff". Specialization is a good thing. =)
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Dutchy on July 07, 2012, 02:23:04 pm
Tho sitting around in one single interior, in a game which is made for exploring and traveling... Hmm..
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Conroy on July 07, 2012, 06:21:43 pm
Tho sitting around in one single interior, in a game which is made for exploring and traveling... Hmm..

Take shifts, problem solved
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Gandalf on July 07, 2012, 06:24:14 pm
I wonder why we have only bureaucrats playing here.
Go to LSPD and stand behind the desk, greet anyone who comes in and do the job....
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: EminemRulez on July 07, 2012, 08:15:08 pm
I wonder why we have only bureaucrats playing here.
Go to LSPD and stand behind the desk, greet anyone who comes in and do the job....
You know noone would do it because it's not paid  :rofl:
It's all about the money, all about the money!
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: memphisraines on July 07, 2012, 09:29:25 pm
Patrol officers could bring in an arrested suspect, then turn them over to the desk staff for processing, freeing up the patrol officer to go back out and continue his patrol. Suspects who want to give themselves up, instead of PMing a cop or asking in /p for a cop to come get them, they can just walk in and surrender to the desk staff.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: vlocity on July 09, 2012, 09:48:38 am
I would happily be desk staff full time. It'd be quite an enjoyable job, with pay or without pay, I'd do it for the Roleplay and Interactions.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on July 09, 2012, 09:57:35 am
Official guidelines and training requirements are being set up right now in preparation of RS5 with the use of scripted commands.
That is all i can say right now.. but the main point is that it'll work out properly with the other suggestions proposals towards the introductions to the inexperienced officers.

You'll find out about everything each time we officially release the final structures.
So remain patient for now until myself and Jaaskaa prepare everything in a well shaped manner with the structures provided by Ronnel.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: vlocity on July 09, 2012, 10:47:46 am
Official guidelines and training requirements are being set up right now in preparation of RS5 with the use of scripted commands.
That is all i can say right now.. but the main point is that it'll work out properly with the other suggestions proposals towards the introductions to the inexperienced officers.

You'll find out about everything each time we officially release the final structures.
So remain patient for now until myself and Jaaskaa prepare everything in a well shaped manner with the structures provided by Ronnel.

Will there be Desk Staff? Or will they be replaced by scripts?
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Dutchy on July 09, 2012, 01:23:35 pm
Will there be Desk Staff? Or will they be replaced by scripts?

That is all i can say right now..
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Matt Murdock on July 09, 2012, 01:38:47 pm
huh? Belongs to ARPD forum no? And its your fault if you were unable to protect a suspect in your custody.  :razz:
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Roske. on July 09, 2012, 01:39:47 pm
Yet again, spent another 1 hour in LSPD, investigating and being a nerd ;p .

I wonder why we have only bureaucrats playing here.
Go to LSPD and stand behind the desk, greet anyone who comes in and do the job....

It's good RP!  :devroll:
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Caltson on July 23, 2012, 03:14:27 am
No desk staff. No desk staff. No desk staff.
Got the problem?

Maybe late to reply to this, but I've found a post of myself that may be helpfull to many officers out there.

Los Santos Police Department Desk Staff


Dear officers, Cadets and all the others that read my post,

Since a few weeks i opened up the LSPD desk for information, investigations, police dispatch and control headquarter.
It's a very interesting and busy thing to do, yet not much people have the attention of going to work at the desk, since it causes less action then being out there, on the field, yet the desk is an interesting and apart experience which only gives good credit to all officers and the working of SAPD.



Tasks of the desk staff:

  • Operating the information desk
  • Controlling the dispatch radio
  • Investigation of criminals
  • maintaining the stock of donuts inside the department.
  • maintaining order in the LSPD compound garage.

Operating the information desk:
- Many citizens visit the police department everyday. Most likely they will have a specific question, which needs a specific answer. As you are operating the information desk, it is your task to assure these citizens get their answer, document or anything else they ask you.
The information desk is also the spot where abused criminals can report theirselves in for an investigation.


Controlling the dispatch radio:
- The dispatch control room is located next of the main desk, it is a small room that also has a window that views on the main lobby of the police dept. As dispatch controller, you can help the police officers to locate the suspect, updating locations, updating of the situation of a crime, or simply dispatch units to a location coming in trough 911..
When you are controlling the dispatch, you can mark yourself as dispatch in the police radio (/r) as [DISPATCH].

Example:

Police Radio: [DISPATCH] All LSPD units, please be advised of a 10-66 in the area of Idlewood., over

When another department dispatch loggs on, it is advised to use regional tags to seperate all dispatchers from each other.

Example:

Police Radio: [LSDISPATCH] All LSPD units, please be advised of a 10-66 in the area of Red County. If the suspect continues his way to San Fierro, please report to SFDISPATCH, over.


Investigation of criminals
- Once a suspect turns himself in at the LSPD information desk, you can investigate the suspect in a investigation room. This greatly adds more perspective of the crime itself, since desk staff has no interferance with the crime itself and can thereby judge from a neutral opinion.
If the investigation goes in a bad way, or the suspect doesn't agree with his punishment, a court case can be made in name of the LSPD desk staff to investigate via the court of law.


Maintaining the stock of donuts
- All officers need their donuts. The desk staff must ride everyday to Rusty Brown's to assure the donut stock doesn't run out.


maintaining order in the LSPD compound garage.
- The compound can be a little messy sometimes, as desk staff you can organise the compound, make sure all PD vehicles are ready to depart, filled up and free of damage. Also keep an eye on the police gate, that it doesn't get left open neither.



If you'd like to join the desk staff, don't hesistate to give it a try. You do not have to apply or anything, the only thing i'd like to point out with this topic is that being behind the desk doesn't neccesarily means 'boring'. There is alot of fun to be discovered inside the department itself.
Dispatches are mostly appreciated and are never done with their work. There is always a tread which can be updated from the department itself.

I hope to see more desk staff in the nearest future,

Ryan Caltson
- SAPD cadet


Soo.. Concretely..
Will there be Desk Staff? Or will they be replaced by scripts?
No scripts are needed for this, at all. All possibilities are there already, no need for a robot handling you, a person will do better.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Zlatan on July 23, 2012, 11:01:42 am
I think a good idea is making such script such as /rules where ARPD officers will read the rules and some regulations on duty.
Title: Re: Investigations in the LSPD
Post by: Caltson on July 23, 2012, 02:02:36 pm
I think a good idea is making such script such as /rules where ARPD officers will read the rules and some regulations on duty.

As whatever we will try to send upon a new player, a real player teaching him our system will give the best results, since new players want to play and not read rules, even though they do form an important part of the community.

However... This could be easily worked out if people made the new member aware about what he just did isn't really good to do or entirely disallowed, instead of going 'OMFG NOOB NEW PLAYER STOLE MY BIKE".

If he doesn't learn, you can still report that person to the administration.
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