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Title: Your attention please
Post by: Sauron on July 08, 2012, 01:31:59 pm
It might not have escaped some of you that there are other servers in SA:MP as Argonath RPG.
We would never limit anyone to play on other server, and even encourage some to do so.

But there are some rules you should understand.

1. Never use the Argonath resources to invite people to another server outside our communities.
It does not matter if you use PM/, cb, TS, forum or whatever other Argonath resource. If they are your friend, there surely must be a way to contact them outside.

2. Never attack or disrupt any server using the Argonath name.
Feel some server is a shitty copy of what we achieved ? If they are they will disappear without your help. If they are not, they have the right to survive. We will never attack any server, nor encourage or allow our players to do so.

Both offenses can lead to a straight ban, and even a routeblock from all communities.

That other servers choose to get players by shitting, attacking, recruiting and copying is their choice. We will not lower down to their level, and we expect our players to uphold our level as well.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Salmonella on July 08, 2012, 01:33:37 pm
Point 1 is nothing new. Point 2 was worth to mention, actually, because I've actually seen people use the Argonath name like that.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Reece on July 08, 2012, 01:34:58 pm
There will always be shitty servers that have to copy the work of others, because they lack creativity to make things for themselves.  :lol:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Frank_Hawk on July 08, 2012, 01:36:47 pm
Sounds like CJ is up to no good again:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/tr/b/bf/GTASA_CJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: rJCaiG on July 08, 2012, 02:04:44 pm
2. Never attack or disrupt any server using the Argonath name.
Feel some server is a shitty copy of what we achieved ? If they are they will disappear without your help. If they are not, they have the right to survive. We will never attack any server, nor encourage or allow our players to do so.
Has Wayne returned? :lol: :rofl: #oldplayerjoke
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Radagast on July 08, 2012, 02:30:53 pm
Sounds like CJ is up to no good again:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/tr/b/bf/GTASA_CJ.jpg)

:rofl:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Brian on July 08, 2012, 02:32:11 pm
Thank you for making this clear Sauron
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Devin on July 08, 2012, 02:33:59 pm
Has Wayne returned? :lol: :rofl: #oldplayerjoke

Oh lord...  :redface:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Stefanrsb on July 08, 2012, 02:41:23 pm
thank you for the information
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Steve. on July 08, 2012, 03:32:45 pm
Sounds like CJ is up to no good again:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/tr/b/bf/GTASA_CJ.jpg)
:lol:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Caltson on July 08, 2012, 04:35:20 pm
Maybe also an interesting note for you guys;

When you are joining up another server because you are recruited to it by a fellow Argonath player or unknown player, NEVER use your Argonath password.
They may abuse it to gain acces to your account, even if they are offering you a position as administrator on another community (espescially don't trust such promises..)
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: kun4L on July 08, 2012, 05:39:39 pm
Maybe also an interesting note for you guys;

When you are joining up another server because you are recruited to it by a fellow Argonath player or unknown player, NEVER use your Argonath password.
They may abuse it to gain acces to your account, even if they are offering you a position as administrator on another community (espescially don't trust such promises..)
Good point..
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Sawyer on July 08, 2012, 05:42:56 pm
Loud and clear.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Ben. on July 08, 2012, 10:00:51 pm
Though this does beg the question...how about those Argonath players who got banned a while ago for being part of another community which was "a copy" of Argonath?
Should the bans be removed from our database, in accordance with point 2?

Unless of course they advertised it using Argonath as a medium.  :roll:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Gandalf on July 08, 2012, 10:22:16 pm
Though this does beg the question...how about those Argonath players who got banned a while ago for being part of another community which was "a copy" of Argonath?
Should the bans be removed from our database, in accordance with point 2?

Unless of course they advertised it using Argonath as a medium.  :roll:
We remember and forgive. There is never harm in being part of another community, the only rule is that you can not be administering two communities at the same time, as you have to concentrate on one job.
For the rest we judge people on their actions today, not their actions of the past be it good or bad.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Murt on July 08, 2012, 10:23:39 pm
Everyone are allowed to be apart of other communities and play at other servers, but they should not use Argonath as a recruitment place to recruit others to other servers...
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 08, 2012, 11:24:50 pm
I assume that this only relates to the official argo teamspeak?
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Radagast on July 09, 2012, 12:22:25 am
I assume that this only relates to the official argo teamspeak?

If they are your friend, there surely must be a way to contact them outside.

Your own means are your own.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Sawyer on July 09, 2012, 04:06:03 am
We remember and forgive. There is never harm in being part of another community, the only rule is that you can not be administering two communities at the same time, as you have to concentrate on one job.
For the rest we judge people on their actions today, not their actions of the past be it good or bad.
Well, in that meaning of concentrate there shouldn't be admins on SAMP and IVMP at the same time I suppose.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 09, 2012, 08:36:21 am
Your own means are your own.

yeah well ive been banned for things that have happened outside the server before so, not taking chances.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Huntsman on July 09, 2012, 11:51:57 am
Acknowledged
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Alarba on July 10, 2012, 07:26:06 pm
When you are joining up another server because you are recruited to it by a fellow Argonath player or unknown player, NEVER use your Argonath password.
They may abuse it to gain acces to your account, even if they are offering you a position as administrator on another community (espescially don't trust such promises..)
Worked well for me  :rofl:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: McGarrett on July 11, 2012, 09:39:46 am
The way of creating a successful server is creating something unique, that you can't find in SA:MP. I've seen many successful servers in SA:MP and many more unsuccessful ones. If anyone would like to create a cool server with a high playerbase(which would be a goal for everyone creating a server), you have to think about some awesome ideas, some cool features, et cetra. It should not be a copy of any other communities, and you should not name it after other servers.

Also do not name it "Super/Epic/Awesome/Ownage/Pwnage/Etc Role play", it just makes it look silly though. Thus you should not go to other servers and start flooding the IP address into the public chat, that just shows that you're desperate for players, and that the professionalism is really low in the administrating.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Karmps. on July 11, 2012, 11:38:11 am
The way of creating a successful server is creating something unique, that you can't find in SA:MP. I've seen many successful servers in SA:MP and many more unsuccessful ones. If anyone would like to create a cool server with a high playerbase(which would be a goal for everyone creating a server), you have to think about some awesome ideas, some cool features, et cetra. It should not be a copy of any other communities, and you should not name it after other servers.

Also do not name it "Super/Epic/Awesome/Ownage/Pwnage/Etc Role play", it just makes it look silly though. Thus you should not go to other servers and start flooding the IP address into the public chat, that just shows that you're desperate for players, and that the professionalism is really low in the administrating.
Well said.Totally agreed to this.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Marcel on July 19, 2012, 05:39:50 pm
In response to rule one, i would like to know if the following is allright. I have actually done this twice in the past:

Some friends who were playing in another community knew i also was involved in Argonath. They asked me about it, and i was like, sure, connect to their teamspeak and i'll show you. We've played for a few weeks (SA:MP) and one of the two stayed for a few months.

I sincerely hope that is not what you see as mis-using Argonath resources?
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Aca on July 21, 2012, 10:37:26 pm
thank you for the information
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Freedom on July 23, 2012, 06:55:17 pm
Well, in that meaning of concentrate there shouldn't be admins on SAMP and IVMP at the same time I suppose.
They might be 2 different servers, but they are a part of one community. As far as I know, you can still be an admin on both.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Hess on July 24, 2012, 01:28:44 pm
They might be 2 different servers, but they are a part of one community. As far as I know, you can still be an admin on both.
You can be admin on both, but as far as I know applicants get priority if they are not an admin on other servers.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 01:57:29 pm
It might not have escaped some of you that there are other servers in SA:MP as Argonath RPG.
We would never limit anyone to play on other server, and even encourage some to do so.

But there are some rules you should understand.

1. Never use the Argonath resources to invite people to another server outside our communities.
It does not matter if you use PM/, cb, TS, forum or whatever other Argonath resource. If they are your friend, there surely must be a way to contact them outside.

2. Never attack or disrupt any server using the Argonath name.
Feel some server is a shitty copy of what we achieved ? If they are they will disappear without your help. If they are not, they have the right to survive. We will never attack any server, nor encourage or allow our players to do so.

Both offenses can lead to a straight ban, and even a routeblock from all communities.

That other servers choose to get players by shitting, attacking, recruiting and copying is their choice. We will not lower down to their level, and we expect our players to uphold our level as well.

My two brothers joined another RPG server, one of them left, One is still there.

I am forum banned and Fired from the FBI because they play another server, they just play there.

What can I do?

I already attempted to speak with multiple people, but they just ignore me ...
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Caltson on July 24, 2012, 02:01:22 pm
My two brothers joined another RPG server, one of them left, One is still there.

I am forum banned and Fired from the FBI because they play another server, they just play there.

What can I do?

I already attempted to speak with multiple people, but they just ignore me ...

If they all played Argonath before, you must've notified an admin about these three accounts. That can be your way to a solution.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 02:03:34 pm
If they all played Argonath before, you must've notified an admin about these three accounts. That can be your way to a solution.

I already told the admins about the other accounts, even BEFORE they made they're accounts, simply to avoid confusion.

My brother Tony already told Leroy Kolta that it was him who joined the community, and NOT me.

All Leroy says is that I am banned and fired from the FBI forever and that nothing will change it.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Devin on July 24, 2012, 04:19:34 pm
Now that sounds like a load of shite, does he have any reason to have banned you from the FBI Forum and fire you?
Or is it just because of your brother playing on another server? If so, it seems like quite a bias decision in my eyes.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 04:29:31 pm
Now that sounds like a load of shite, does he have any reason to have banned you from the FBI Forum and fire you?
Or is it just because of your brother playing on another server? If so, it seems like quite a bias decision in my eyes.

Yes, they fired and banned and rejected me because a person on my IP was playing in another server.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Devin on July 24, 2012, 04:34:35 pm
That seems like a rather poor excuse for a reason, that's basically implying that you may only play on 1 community else you may not be in FBI.
All I can say is contact Gandalf about the situation, only he will be able to deal with it.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 04:36:37 pm
That seems like a rather poor excuse for a reason, that's basically implying that you may only play on 1 community else you may not be in FBI.
All I can say is contact Gandalf about the situation, only he will be able to deal with it.
Murt also told me to contact Gandalf

Gandalf didn't answer, Jaaskaa told me to go to Teddy Collin, Teddy doesn't aswer.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Devin on July 24, 2012, 04:38:04 pm
I'll try contact them and see what I can do.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 04:40:24 pm
I'll try contact them and see what I can do.

Thanks man, appreciate it.

Post Merge: July 24, 2012, 05:12:05 pm
Here is the evidence:


(http://i50.tinypic.com/2jeyzcz.png)
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 24, 2012, 06:03:31 pm
You really are infuriating mate...

The fact you keep going every where with some sob poor me story yet can't even keep the facts in order. I said I'd look into it, and I did. When your ready to be honest, my PM is open.

To defend the choices we've made:
(http://derek-martinez.us/imgs/?di=76J3)
and:
(http://derek-martinez.us/share/i/31126700021347167662423201221543032)
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Devin on July 24, 2012, 06:06:05 pm
So the truth comes out I see.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 06:21:06 pm
You really are infuriating mate...

The fact you keep going every where with some sob poor me story yet can't even keep the facts in order. I said I'd look into it, and I did. When your ready to be honest, my PM is open.


I have told you my story already, It was not me, But Tony_Capone.

Tony_Capone told [WS]Leroy INGAME that it was him, not me.
And at that same moment I was online to.

I did not join that community, I do not have ANY connections with it, and I am not even close to they're FBI.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 24, 2012, 08:43:03 pm
I have told you my story already, It was not me, But Tony_Capone.

Tony_Capone told [WS]Leroy INGAME that it was him, not me.
And at that same moment I was online to.

I did not join that community, I do not have ANY connections with it, and I am not even close to they're FBI.

There is no point in lying here publicly as well. Screenshots have been provided; so please to me PM with the full true story and keep it off here. This isn't the poor me topic.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2012, 09:24:46 pm
There is no point in lying here publicly as well. Screenshots have been provided; so please to me PM with the full true story and keep it off here. This isn't the poor me topic.

I will take it to PM with you.

Once again, I did not Lie, and I can prove it.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Brian on July 25, 2012, 12:51:09 am
As I like to inform you, it is indeed his little brother tony playing on the certain server not himself.

Also someone is impersonating me on argo with the name [RT]BrianC ( I have that name on that certain server )
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Nexxt on July 25, 2012, 01:41:57 am
Oh, I might have to be FBI-forum banned too, as I play on another server sometimes. To have some variety! [;
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 25, 2012, 05:01:03 am
Oh, I might have to be FBI-forum banned too, as I play on another server sometimes. To have some variety! [;

As stated, we can't stop you, nor does the FBI prevent anyone from playing on other servers. Agents can play on other servers as well, there is just limitations regarding the elements of involvement. To protect our assets. I myself do play other servers as well, both DM, TDM and even other RP SA-MP servers.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Matt Murdock on July 25, 2012, 05:56:55 am
As stated, we can't stop you, nor does the FBI prevent anyone from playing on other servers. Agents can play on other servers as well, there is just limitations regarding the elements of involvement. To protect our assets. I myself do play other servers as well, both DM, TDM and even other RP SA-MP servers.
Why're you not banned yet?  :devroll:

Whats bullshit is what you're doing actually, not what others did. Acting like you own certain Argonath related forums and preventing players to interact with other members of the community.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 25, 2012, 02:38:09 pm
Why're you not banned yet?  :devroll:

Whats bullshit is what you're doing actually, not what others did. Acting like you own certain Argonath related forums and preventing players to interact with other members of the community.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You act like I made this all up entirely on my own. I'll have you know Chase Greggor and Jaaskaa, and all other forum admins including [R*]Fernando and JDC are in full agreeance with this. We are NOT preventing people from playing other communities.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Matt Murdock on July 25, 2012, 05:45:42 pm
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You act like I made this all up entirely on my own. I'll have you know Chase Greggor and Jaaskaa, and all other forum admins including [R*]Fernando and JDC are in full agreeance with this. We are NOT preventing people from playing other communities.
Sorry for the provocative tone in the last post. But really? I'd like to know the standards you guys took to know about the players playing on another community.

In my case, I might be the one least caring, probably since I barely login on the FBI forums, or creating another account is easy for me, and as far as I remember my last login was 3 months ago, I've never been FBI on any other servers, or even in any other game, let alone a multi player SA, on which standards was my account banned?  :trust:
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 25, 2012, 08:25:28 pm
Sorry for the provocative tone in the last post. But really? I'd like to know the standards you guys took to know about the players playing on another community.

In my case, I might be the one least caring, probably since I barely login on the FBI forums, or creating another account is easy for me, and as far as I remember my last login was 3 months ago, I've never been FBI on any other servers, or even in any other game, let alone a multi player SA, on which standards was my account banned?  :trust:

You still aren't understanding. The point isn't playing other servers. This is only for our agents or higher... This is to protect our content. We have had issues in the recent weeks where this has been infringed, thus we must take drastic actions to ensure it is prevented. We will never say you can't play on another server.

We never have any intention of doing so, but we only execute bans with caution and certainty of evidence.

Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: SugarD on July 25, 2012, 08:32:28 pm
This is not a place to argue. For those curious about the situation, many were banned for much more than just "playing" in other communities.

If you want to continue this discussion, take it up with the Server Owners via PM. Arguing in this topic is not the right way to resolve your problems.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Matt Murdock on July 26, 2012, 03:40:56 pm
You still aren't understanding. The point isn't playing other servers. This is only for our agents or higher... This is to protect our content. We have had issues in the recent weeks where this has been infringed, thus we must take drastic actions to ensure it is prevented. We will never say you can't play on another server.

We never have any intention of doing so, but we only execute bans with caution and certainty of evidence.
I have never even been an agent, or affiliated with FBI, The only use I had for FBI forums was to interact with other community members. And I really have no idea what you got by banning the account based on the e-mail I use for most places, I can easily create another one in less than 5 seconds, and might even apply and get accepted as an agent, and you'll have no way to find out its me, ever.

Who can I take this up with?
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2012, 04:03:12 pm
I have never even been an agent, or affiliated with FBI, The only use I had for FBI forums was to interact with other community members. And I really have no idea what you got by banning the account based on the e-mail I use for most places, I can easily create another one in less than 5 seconds, and might even apply and get accepted as an agent, and you'll have no way to find out its me, ever.

Who can I take this up with?

Why do you insist on being so argumentative over a game?
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 26, 2012, 04:13:13 pm
I have never even been an agent, or affiliated with FBI, The only use I had for FBI forums was to interact with other community members. And I really have no idea what you got by banning the account based on the e-mail I use for most places, I can easily create another one in less than 5 seconds, and might even apply and get accepted as an agent, and you'll have no way to find out its me, ever.

Who can I take this up with?
This is not a place to argue. For those curious about the situation, many were banned for much more than just "playing" in other communities.

If you want to continue this discussion, take it up with the Server Owners via PM. Arguing in this topic is not the right way to resolve your problems.

Why do you insist on being so argumentative over a game?
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Matt Murdock on July 26, 2012, 07:27:11 pm
Why do you insist on being so argumentative over a game?
Can't help it, I'm just like that.  :D

More than myself, its about others, I'm not the only one who was forum banned, as I said, heck it doesn't even affect me, but I'm pretty sure many others got abused in this way too.

 :ps: Sugar, President/Owners have higher chances of reading this topic than the pms.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Teddy on July 26, 2012, 07:30:55 pm
:ps: Sugar, President/Owners have higher chances of reading this topic than the pms.

They are fully aware of the circumstances.

More than myself, its about others, I'm not the only one who was forum banned, as I said, heck it doesn't even affect me, but I'm pretty sure many others got abused in this way too.

It isn't abuse, please don't make such haste accusations. You have not right, nor are in a place to accuse me of anything. If you are banned and are not guilty of the accused the request an unban. I might add, I didn't ban you either so I'm not not entirely sure of the conditions of your ban.

I'd also like to state, Mike has been unbanned given the conditions provided. As stated, these are risk and honesty based.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: SugarD on July 26, 2012, 08:09:33 pm
If you want to continue this discussion, take it up with the Server Owners via PM. Arguing in this topic is not the right way to resolve your problems.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: UrAExtremeDongus on July 27, 2012, 09:56:09 am
(http://nextlol.com/images/171-everybody-out.jpg)

You guise r just mad cuz u n00bz have nothing better to do
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: SugarD on July 27, 2012, 10:13:32 am
(http://nextlol.com/images/171-everybody-out.jpg)

You guise r just mad cuz u n00bz have nothing better to do
Let me redirect you to the community rules:
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Rules)

Enjoy your stay! ;)
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Nexxt on July 27, 2012, 01:07:24 pm
/deskface

Someone had to feed the troll again, I am not suprised.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: TiMoN on July 27, 2012, 01:10:02 pm
(http://nextlol.com/images/171-everybody-out.jpg)

You guise r just mad cuz u n00bz have nothing better to do

Ummm, aahh, oommmm, This is a topic not a thread :D

Edit: your first post and calling us noobs? Interesting....
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Nexxt on July 27, 2012, 08:47:06 pm
/me mumbles something about feeding trolls, but thinks ignoring is better.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Zaila on July 27, 2012, 09:24:14 pm
I got a question regarding this.

When i'm scripting, i'm using a server which i'm hosting directly on my computer. I have opened the ports so people can join that server.

Am i allowed to invite Argonath players to join my scripting server (it's myself hosting it, and there is no community around it, it's simply just a server i'm using to put up my code on instead of buying a server from a host) to help me test something etc?
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Murt on July 27, 2012, 09:46:54 pm
I got a question regarding this.

When i'm scripting, i'm using a server which i'm hosting directly on my computer. I have opened the ports so people can join that server.

Am i allowed to invite Argonath players to join my scripting server (it's myself hosting it, and there is no community around it, it's simply just a server i'm using to put up my code on instead of buying a server from a host) to help me test something etc?

I see no problem in it really.
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: Radagast on July 28, 2012, 04:01:39 am
I got a question regarding this.

When i'm scripting, i'm using a server which i'm hosting directly on my computer. I have opened the ports so people can join that server.

Am i allowed to invite Argonath players to join my scripting server (it's myself hosting it, and there is no community around it, it's simply just a server i'm using to put up my code on instead of buying a server from a host) to help me test something etc?

And much boredom was relieved in the past...
Title: Re: Your attention please
Post by: TiMoN on July 28, 2012, 01:07:15 pm
I got a question regarding this.

When i'm scripting, i'm using a server which i'm hosting directly on my computer. I have opened the ports so people can join that server.

Am i allowed to invite Argonath players to join my scripting server (it's myself hosting it, and there is no community around it, it's simply just a server i'm using to put up my code on instead of buying a server from a host) to help me test something etc?
/me admin wanna be there :D
Invite me ;)
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