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GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: Jaga848 on July 22, 2012, 09:58:10 am
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Okay, so I installed GTA VC on my laptop again, but I have some problems that I've never had before. For example, sometimes, if I turn to north, my game runs fine, but when I turn to south my game starts lagging like crazy and it becomes unplayable (ex. when I'm driving past the 24/7 mart or I'm inside it itself). I've never experienced these problems before as I've played for over 6 months on my laptop. I've got a HP laptop, Intel(R), Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80 GHz with 512 MB of RAM and a MOBILITY M6 ATI Radeon video card. And before you ask, yes the game's an original, not downloaded. Any help appreciated..
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The laptop is rather weak, but the VC should run just fine,
Try re-installing, and I don't recomend installing mods unless you want more lag.
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Try re-installing.
I already tried, didn't help.
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To be honest, I had about the same laptop as you had [a weaker procsser tho'], and I also had some lags, FPS was usually 15-25.
So if thats the case, I don't think theres a Solution.
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You could try shutting down all the unnecessary programs on the background (I mean everything, MSN, xfire, torrent, browsers...) and put VC's graphics to their lowest (reso like 800x600x32) (640x480 looks so bad compared to 800x600) :razz:
Also put "Draw distance" to it's minimum and so on.. Then have a try ^^
Also there exists some programs that help you shutting down all those unnecessary programs, but I do not recall any of them (I haven't have need for them in like 5 years) :/
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Tried it all, didn't help. I even downloaded GameBooster, a well known gaming device that raises fps, didn't help either...
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Tried it all, didn't help. I even downloaded GameBooster, a well known gaming device that raises fps, didn't help either...
Try running CCleaner (cleans your trash + cookies 'n all) and then fixes the problems in your window's register. Might help alot if never done before ^^
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The worst thing is that I ran it several times before and it didn't help. :(
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Re-install Windows with the backup CDs/DVDs and then install GTA VC to see if it still lags. If so, you'd need new PC :(
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I had the same problem in my old laptop Lance, I also tried everything and nothing helped. You just need some patience to it and you'll do fine! :) How did I played GTA VC on my Mini-Laggish-Laptop for over 1 year? It ain't too hard.
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Reinstalling Windows wouldn't solve his issue.
Upgrade your video and other drivers, and make sure your computer is up-to-date. Often, people do not realize that outdated or bad driver releases may have bugs or may be unoptimized, even for just older games.
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Reinstalling Windows wouldn't solve his issue.
Upgrade your video and other drivers, and make sure your computer is up-to-date. Often, people do not realize that outdated or bad driver releases may have bugs or may be unoptimized, even for just older games.
If the problem is within his hardware, then reinstalling windows can certainly pinpoint where the fault is.
Also when reinstalling windows, you HAVE TO install completely new drivers, and no older drivers are on the PC to mess it up (no, neither nvidia or amd drivers actually remove the old ones)
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If the problem is within his hardware, then reinstalling windows can certainly pinpoint where the fault is.
Also when reinstalling windows, you HAVE TO install completely new drivers, and no older drivers are on the PC to mess it up (no, neither nvidia or amd drivers actually remove the old ones)
Reinstalling Windows would not pinpoint a hardware issue. He would only get the same results if he did that. This is an issue relating to processing of data and graphics because it is not consistent.
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Reinstalling Windows would not pinpoint a hardware issue. He would only get the same results if he did that. This is an issue relating to processing of data and graphics because it is not consistent.
Ohhh reaaaallllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
You do realise that Windows is the fault here with highest probability (not saying even that is high, but highest of all of them). Installing drivers again may fuck it up even more, due to older ones staying there. You'd need a whole different program to sweep out the old drivers (window's control panel removal does not remove them, nor does the driver installing program).
If Window's register is fucked up, in a one big mess, no performance boost can fix it. It would ALWAYS lag. Also HDD being too full may slow it down, making the data processing slower. With that low amount of RAM, it would be recommended to reboot your system every now and then to refresh the RAM.
If you, SugarD, can give out better advise, go ahead.
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Yep, when I tried removing my driver, my Windows got all fucked up, so that's out of the question...
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Ohhh reaaaallllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
You do realise that Windows is the fault here with highest probability (not saying even that is high, but highest of all of them). Installing drivers again may f**k it up even more, due to older ones staying there. You'd need a whole different program to sweep out the old drivers (window's control panel removal does not remove them, nor does the driver installing program).
If Window's register is f**ked up, in a one big mess, no performance boost can fix it. It would ALWAYS lag. Also HDD being too full may slow it down, making the data processing slower. With that low amount of RAM, it would be recommended to reboot your system every now and then to refresh the RAM.
If you, SugarD, can give out better advise, go ahead.
1. I hope you realize that drivers always stay on the system regardless of how outdated they are. They are just disabled when a newer version is installed. That's why the rollback button works.
2. All the things you suggested would create consistent issues. His issue is not consistent aside from the position he is facing in-game. That means the computer is attempting to process something to display (or run) it and it is taking too long to do so. That is a CPU/GPU issue. Not Windows. Windows is simply an Operating System.
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1. I hope you realize that drivers always stay on the system regardless of how outdated they are. They are just disabled when a newer version is installed. That's why the rollback button works.
2. All the things you suggested would create consistent issues. His issue is not consistent aside from the position he is facing in-game. That means the computer is attempting to process something to display (or run) it and it is taking too long to do so. That is a CPU/GPU issue. Not Windows. Windows is simply an Operating System.
I wonder why I don't have any of my older drivers on my Windows :roll:
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I wonder why I don't have any of my older drivers on my Windows :roll:
If you've updated them, click the rollback button. They are there.
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If you've updated them, click the rollback button. They are there.
There are no old drivers, because I use 3rd party software to remove them. Nvidias history with drivers drives me in to doing so, considering the pricetag in my GPU.
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There are no old drivers, because I use 3rd party software to remove them. Nvidias history with drivers drives me in to doing so, considering the pricetag in my GPU.
There is no reason aside from hard drive space to remove the old drivers from your system. Even then, the space saved is minimal at best, and affects the system in no way at all as they are disabled regardless.
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There is no reason aside from hard drive space to remove the old drivers from your system. Even then, the space saved is minimal at best, and affects the system in no way at all as they are disabled regardless.
Speaking from what you're told or from personal experience? I am talking from experience, and I strongly recommend removing old drivers due to the chance pf new and old overlapping and that would fuck you up.
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Speaking from what you're told or from personal experience? I am talking from experience, and I strongly recommend removing old drivers due to the chance pf new and old overlapping and that would f**k you up.
Drivers don't ever overlap. Your page file should never overlap them either as it does not take old drivers into account once the new ones are activated and set to run upon computer start-up.
To answer your other question, yes, I am speaking from experience. Nearly 20 years of it, to be correct.
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Drivers don't ever overlap. Your page file should never overlap them either as it does not take old drivers into account once the new ones are activated and set to run upon computer start-up.
To answer your other question, yes, I am speaking from experience. Nearly 20 years of it, to be correct.
Overlapped drivers ever burnt YOUR GPU? Also, the problem indeed lies within processing data, and as it only occurs when looking in south, I'd go with problem of searching the data from your HDD. Lets take an example of CoD2. Most of the lag in mp_brecourt is due to your HDD not being able to forward the data further, therefore causing huge FPS drops (even my PC lags in that map, due to not having so good HDD for my CoD games.
Also, pointing a huge flaw in the way how you see things. NOTHING is certain with PCs so you CANNOT say drivers won't ever overlap with each others.
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Overlapped drivers ever burnt YOUR GPU? Also, the problem indeed lies within processing data, and as it only occurs when looking in south, I'd go with problem of searching the data from your HDD. Lets take an example of CoD2. Most of the lag in mp_brecourt is due to your HDD not being able to forward the data further, therefore causing huge FPS drops (even my PC lags in that map, due to not having so good HDD for my CoD games.
Also, pointing a huge flaw in the way how you see things. NOTHING is certain with PCs so you CANNOT say drivers won't ever overlap with each others.
Drivers don't overlap because one is disabled before the other is enabled. If you are referring to conflicts, that would be evident by the Device Manager, but regardless it would not be an older and newer version of the driver doing such to one another. It'd have to be two separate devices conflicting.
As for HDD issues, that would be true if it weren't to a consistent angle in the game. He would be getting the issue in multiple places as it attempts to read data. GTA is split into separate areas for it's maps, so if he had been in one area causing the lag, then it would become apparent...but just looking a specific direction, regardless of the location, wouldn't continue to happen like that. Something else relating to the processing of the visual data or game environment is going wrong.
It is one thing if you have a horrible system and a powerful game, but even on most crappy systems, GTA:VC was well-ported, so it runs fine. In fact, it tends to be faster than GTA III on most systems out there. We're not talking about GTA IV on a PoS computer here. :lol:
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What if the data in the south is on a broken sector (very unlikely that this kind of thing would happen, but it's possible) of the HDD?
Also, arguing with you seems like I'm talking to a brickwall, so let's just focus on the problem here.
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What if the data in the south is on a broken sector (very unlikely that this kind of thing would happen, but it's possible) of the HDD?
Also, arguing with you seems like I'm talking to a brickwall, so let's just focus on the problem here.
Then being in an area of the map that is contained on a broken sector would cause that...not facing in that specific direction.
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I tried all, defragging both partitions, downloading various fps increasing programs, but nothing worked. I'm probably going to fix my pc when I come back from vacation, but in case not, I'll just have to live with the lag. Thanks for your help anyways guys, see you soon..
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I tried all, defragging both partitions, downloading various fps increasing programs, but nothing worked. I'm probably going to fix my pc when I come back from vacation, but in case not, I'll just have to live with the lag. Thanks for your help anyways guys, see you soon..
Best of luck man!
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Sorry for topic bump, but I have a question. It may also be a little off-topic, sorry. :/ I have a budget of 500 euros, can I get a good pc for that? Now I'm not talking about running Diablo III, but at least GTA 4 and stuff like that..
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Sorry for topic bump, but I have a question. It may also be a little off-topic, sorry. :/ I have a budget of 500 euros, can I get a good pc for that? Now I'm not talking about running Diablo III, but at least GTA 4 and stuff like that..
GTA 4 is "heavier" game than Diablo III... :razz:
Anyways, yeah you can, as long as you choose PC components yourself and don't buy any shit that store has to offer. I can help you with that, just hit me up in MSN at weekend.
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You see, the thing is, I don't really wanna disassemble my PC, and the prices at Serbia are really really cheap (people come from other countries to buy electronics here), and I digged up some information (+my uncle's friend owns a computer company :D), at stores, they ask you what kind of pc u want, u say, and they show you a few PCs that may fit the role, they also let you TRY IT with the game you want or just see if it works. You have a 3 year warranty for all PCs and may return them in case something goes wrong (it doesn't work/the game doesn't work and stuff like that). I don't need to talk further, do I? The thing you may help me with now, Kessu, is telling me which configurations are good and which are not. (I tell you the specs, you tell how it is, since I know you know that stuff :razz:) For example, how's this one:
Model HP A2J87ES
Processor AMD A6 3600, 2.6GHz
Chipset N/A
Graphics Card AMD Radeon 6570 2GB
Memory 4GB DDR3, 1333MHz
Hard disk 1 500GB SATA2, 7200rpm
Hard disk 2 Noany
Optical Device DVD-RW Dual-Layer
Sound Card Yes
Housing (or w/e it's pronounced in english) HP MiniTower
OS Noany
Other LightScribe, LAN
Cost: 354 euros
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I'd go for this kinda, should run even newer games on low-mid end settings.
DVD: ASUS Internal 24X SATA Optical Drive DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G (Black) -- $25
Motherboard: ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS -- $58
Case & PSU: Coolermaster Elite 311 w/ 420W PSU -- $51
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 7200RPM 500GB -- $75.16
RAM: Transcend JetRam 4 GB -2GB x 2- DDR3 Desktop DIMM 1333 MHz -- $28
GPU: ASUS Radeon HD 6670 1GB -- $88
CPU: AMD FX 4100 3.6 GHz (QUAD-CORE) -- $120
Overall price: $444.66
When turned to euros, price drops to closer of 400 euros.
This PC does NOT include monitor, keyboard, OS nor a mouse. Not even speakers. Only the PC itself.
prices are from amazon.com
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What resolution are you going to play? And what's ur budget?
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*cough*
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc (http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc)
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What resolution are you going to play? And what's ur budget?
Hey bro, the resolution doesn't even matter, I don't mind playing on lowest possible (I'm used to it anyway :razz) and I pretty much talked to Kessu on msn today, so from now on, no help is needed. Thanks anyways guys!