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Title: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 01:00:48 pm
Well, I've been training for a while now, and I had to stop due a twisted muscle and a blessure with my knee. Though, I would like to continue once again.

The problem is, the closest fitness center is closed, and the nearest is 40km away from here (I live in the f**king middle of nowhere).

So, what kind of exercises do you guys advice ? I'm totally out of it.. :/. I wish to train the shoulders, arms, stomach and back. Legs are already being trained due the fact that I cycle a lot.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Gandalf on July 22, 2012, 01:12:05 pm
Check your avatar.... :razz:
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 01:39:37 pm
:(

I need more stomach muscles to play like him  :hit:.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Caltson on July 22, 2012, 02:04:25 pm
Well, I don't go to a fitness either, but I train my muscles mainly at home.

Things like pull-ups, push-ups, etc, can be easily practiced at home. The only difficulty you'll find is finding the balance between healthy workout and overworking your body due to the lack of a decent coach.
Many teenagers believe to be Rambo after 2 workouts and realise they were wrong the day after when they wake up.
To avoid that, the best thing to do is follow a program that describes in big lines how you can work out well so that you wont' cross your body's limit.
For example, to train your arms, start out with a low number of pull-ups instead of forcing your body to do 5 after each other, since the first time won't be easy. Increase the amount time over time and don't work out everyday, but each 2 days, to prevent your body from getting overworked.

Now, a good program to work out at home for your muscles could be one of the following:

For the chest and triceps, you should start doing push-ups, as many as you can do (without forcing yourself!) in 3 sets with a 60 seconds break between each of them.

For the Back/biceps, pull-ups are the way to go. If you don't have a pull-up bar, improvise. Many items in your house can be used for pull-ups, for example a closet is high enough to grab yourself onto and pull yourself up. Try to do as many as you can (in the beginning 1, 2 or 3 may be sufficient) in 3 sets with a 60 seconds break between each of them.

Then, for the abs, you can do crunches. You simply place your arms behind your head so that your hands support your head and then attempt to get up as high as you can. Do this also in 3 sets, with each set consisting out of 8-16 repetitions. Keep a 60 seconds break between each of them.


Now, not only working out, but also the food you consume can determine the condition of your body is in drastically. Try to reduce fastfood and soda's to a minimum.

Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 02:09:35 pm
I'm not eating fastfood at all, it is DISQUESTING. Soda.. Well, I drink 5 glasses of cola (Pepsi Max :D) and the rest is water. And I know that it takes atleast 3 weeks to grow, I've done it before. I've only stopped with the blessure.

It's for sure that I'll put this into my program, for now, I have.


10-5 push ups --> 3 sets, 60 seconds rest between them.

A exercise to train the stomach (used --> golf club) 80 to 160 --> 2 sets, 1 minute rest between the sets.

Exercise with the arms (straightning arms, them pulling them back and forwards etc, 40 times) (trains the shoulders and most of the back) --> 4 sets, 1 minute rest between the sets.

And then some variation exercises that I used to do when I did wushu. My golfteacher gave me some to.

Cheers Caltson, any advices on my program ?

Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on July 22, 2012, 03:48:41 pm
Caltson, using a closet for pullups is pretty useless.
It is most likely not at arms length high and it can easily fall.
As for the crunches, it's not about getting up as far as you can, but only to the point where you're barely sitting.
Also don't get all the way down on the ground, keep it in the middle. You will feel your stomach burning.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Gandalf on July 22, 2012, 04:01:59 pm
:(

I need more stomach muscles to play like him  :hit:.
As you mentioned, as good as all your upper body is trained by playing golf.
If you want fitness, golf is as good as anything. Of course if you goal is to show off big muscles you might want to do something else. ;)
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 04:10:19 pm
As you mentioned, as good as all your upper body is trained by playing golf.
If you want fitness, golf is as good as anything. Of course if you goal is to show off big muscles you might want to do something else. ;)

Golf isn't training your muscles totally, this is due the fact that the main muscle that you use, is your stomach. A Golfclub is quite light, mine arent though. But, if you get the point. Train the muscles in your stomach, the quicker your swing goes, the further your shaft bows, the further your ball go. Only risk you get is that you need to replace your clubs in notime due the fact that your shafts are to flexy :D. That is some expensive shit, I can tell you that.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Devin on July 22, 2012, 04:11:09 pm
Cycling, the exercise/sport that destroyed my knees..
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 04:11:49 pm
Cycling, the exercise/sport that destroyed my knees..

Mine are destroyed by a dashboard coming at me, want to change ?
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Devin on July 22, 2012, 04:15:21 pm
You shouldn't have said "Come at me bro" to the dashboard.  :roll:
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Alsatian on July 22, 2012, 04:18:50 pm
If you can go swimming, I'd highly recommend it as it's a great way to tone up plus it gives full body cardio.

For actually building up your muslces, unless you have access to proper gym equipment, I'd go with the exercises Caltson described. One thing I would mention for the abdominal area, although you've already probably taken it into account, is that it would be best to have your legs raised. Use something solid to act as a platform to keep your legs raised. Also, it's not about how far you can lift yourself; short little lifts are what you should be doing. Trust me, at the gym I used to do it by trying to lift myself as high as I could. It worked, but when I switched to the latter method, I noticed a huge difference immediately.

I would advise that you concentrate on one body area per day though, if you was planning on doing them every day or so - there's nothing worse than waking up the next day with a body that is aching all over.

Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 05:08:53 pm
You shouldn't have said "Come at me bro" to the dashboard.  :roll:

It was more a tree at a property, the car was crashed to, with me behind the wheel (first time I drove with my dad's car). My dad wanted to kill me.  :banana:

If you can go swimming, I'd highly recommend it as it's a great way to tone up plus it gives full body cardio.

For actually building up your muslces, unless you have access to proper gym equipment, I'd go with the exercises Caltson described. One thing I would mention for the abdominal area, although you've already probably taken it into account, is that it would be best to have your legs raised. Use something solid to act as a platform to keep your legs raised. Also, it's not about how far you can lift yourself; short little lifts are what you should be doing. Trust me, at the gym I used to do it by trying to lift myself as high as I could. It worked, but when I switched to the latter method, I noticed a huge difference immediately.

I would advise that you concentrate on one body area per day though, if you was planning on doing them every day or so - there's nothing worse than waking up the next day with a body that is aching all over.



I swim everyday, esspecialy in the morning, to wake up. And I won't train everyday, otherwise I'll have my muscle twisted again and my knee won't allow it. Doctor would probably take out his biggest needle if he sees me again in 1 month.  :bow:
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Gandalf on July 22, 2012, 05:26:08 pm
It was more a tree at a property, the car was crashed to, with me behind the wheel (first time I drove with my dad's car). My dad wanted to kill me.  :banana:

Regardless of how thin and vulnerable a tree looks, it has been proven that in most confrontations with a car they win.
Hope your dad will not be able to go back in time and use a condom.... :D
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 05:29:55 pm
Regardless of how thin and vulnerable a tree looks, it has been proven that in most confrontations with a car they win.
Hope your dad will not be able to go back in time and use a condom.... :D
Neither do I life with my dad anymore (private reasons) since 2 years (I'm 16 now, I was 13 when I crashed the car I believe). Problem was, the car was just 30 days old... It was a new Mercedes.. E serie, He had it from his work (he was the lucky guy, he had the V8 version...). Never saw him that pissed. I hug threes now due the fact they don't stop my golfbal.

Since then I'm not even allowed to touch the wheel :/.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Hidduh on July 22, 2012, 08:31:18 pm
If you can go swimming, I'd highly recommend it as it's a great way to tone up plus it gives full body cardio.

This.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Julio. on July 22, 2012, 08:35:25 pm
I agree, swimming is good.

Use your own bodies muscles against each other, cross your arms and force them up/down on each other, alternate, clasp hands in middle, attempt to pull them apart.

Pretend to be lifting weights, feel yourself making the effort, tense your muscles.

All just as effective as using physical weights.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Thomas_A on July 22, 2012, 10:49:41 pm
The exercises that Caltson mentioned are good, I do them daily and also go jogging in the evenings. I dont recommend you to go jogging in morning when you just have woke up, because that may be bad for your heart. You shouldnt just go out and start jogging but start slowly, in the first day you should just walk and try to speed up the pace a bit. Once you're ready, make sure you warm up because even If you feel in the first day that you are fine without warm up, you'll see how bad it is in few days.
 Cycling is also another chance, before jogging I was cycling every day or twice a day. Again, dont go for long distances as you should start nice and slow. Advise you to pick a nice and compfortable route for ya'.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 22, 2012, 11:19:08 pm
Nearly every morning to the shop to get bread, it's around 4km. It's really nice in the morning, nice and easy.

Swimming is after diner, then I train a bit. In the afternoon golf and those exercises.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Julio. on July 22, 2012, 11:27:04 pm
In the afternoon golf

Like a sir

/me raises his whiskey glass
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 23, 2012, 08:02:07 pm
Like a sir

/me raises his whiskey glass

The Golf Swing Weekly Fix How To Start the Downswing and Regular and Stiff Shafts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7w1tD9dJwg#ws)

This, is annoying. Got the same problem now, hitting the ball 30 meters shorter.. That's damned annoying with my woods (I hate drivers).
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: TheRock on July 25, 2012, 06:47:30 am
Pretend to be lifting weights, feel yourself making the effort, tense your muscles.

You gave me a good laugh, Thank you! :lol: :lol: :rofl:
Just pretending doesn't do anything at all, it's the same with flexing the muscles = no results ;)

I'd advise you start off from hands, then you can start lifting weights which will do good for your chest and stomach since you can pull on couple of great excercises if you have muscle/power and strength!

Since you're 16, Start with warm-up of 2kg dumb-bells, do a couple.. for example, when I warm up, I usually do 100 reps of 2kg, then I move to higher weight, like sets of 8 x 10 with 5kg, and finally 10-15KG which are rare, after the muscles have 'warmed up' too much.

After that, you could lay down and grab either the 2KG for begin or 5KG (Whatever you feel it makes difference to your muscle, but not enough to tire it on 10 reps), and start picking up the dumb-bells from the ground, all way up with getting them nearly to touch each other, and always your hands straight. This way you can work out on your chest without getting too tired! What you must do daily is Push-ups. Doesn't need to be many, but at least eventually must start handling reps of at least 50 non-stop! Whenever you wake up, get on your legs and start by achieving 10 push-ups non stop. Each day for at least a week do 10 per time at a rep, and never succeed 30 at the begin, since I doubt you wanna feel like a granny after couple hours of the next day. Eventually start adding more push-ups to the target rep.

What also helps, is as guys already mentioned: Swimming. It's the best excercise because whilst on water you do not hold full weight of your body, which allows you to excercise almost every single muscle on your body! Try several swimming ways though, butterfly, up-side towards back, usual fast and rest.

tl;dr- Before you start working on anything on your body, train your arms/hands.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Julio. on July 25, 2012, 09:31:36 am
You gave me a good laugh, Thank you! :lol: :lol: :rofl:
Just pretending doesn't do anything at all, it's the same with flexing the muscles = no results ;)

I'd advise you start off from hands, then you can start lifting weights which will do good for your chest and stomach since you can pull on couple of great excercises if you have muscle/power and strength!

Since you're 16, Start with warm-up of 2kg dumb-bells, do a couple.. for example, when I warm up, I usually do 100 reps of 2kg, then I move to higher weight, like sets of 8 x 10 with 5kg, and finally 10-15KG which are rare, after the muscles have 'warmed up' too much.

After that, you could lay down and grab either the 2KG for begin or 5KG (Whatever you feel it makes difference to your muscle, but not enough to tire it on 10 reps), and start picking up the dumb-bells from the ground, all way up with getting them nearly to touch each other, and always your hands straight. This way you can work out on your chest without getting too tired! What you must do daily is Push-ups. Doesn't need to be many, but at least eventually must start handling reps of at least 50 non-stop! Whenever you wake up, get on your legs and start by achieving 10 push-ups non stop. Each day for at least a week do 10 per time at a rep, and never succeed 30 at the begin, since I doubt you wanna feel like a granny after couple hours of the next day. Eventually start adding more push-ups to the target rep.

What also helps, is as guys already mentioned: Swimming. It's the best excercise because whilst on water you do not hold full weight of your body, which allows you to excercise almost every single muscle on your body! Try several swimming ways though, butterfly, up-side towards back, usual fast and rest.

tl;dr- Before you start working on anything on your body, train your arms/hands.

Meh, believe what you think, but it worked for my Uncle and he was a PT instructor in the Army.
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Alsatian on July 25, 2012, 11:53:30 am
Pretend to be lifting weights, feel yourself making the effort, tense your muscles.

This will achieve absolutely nothing. Are you seriously trying to imply that through pretending to lift weights, you'll actually gain muscle?

All just as effective as using physical weights.

Oh you are serious...
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Jingle on July 25, 2012, 12:19:09 pm
Use your own bodies muscles against each other, cross your arms and force them up/down on each other, alternate, clasp hands in middle, attempt to pull them apart.

Pretend to be lifting weights, feel yourself making the effort, tense your muscles.

All just as effective as using physical weights.
Does shitting when constipated count?
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: dtlove on July 25, 2012, 02:13:23 pm
I've recently started running / jogging, I do about 2/3 miles every 2 days (depending on how busy I am).

I've also started doing 40/50 situps per night and around 25/30 pushups (the numbers are odd, but I'm only doing what I can handle).

I've started cycling more too, but like people have said, this is pretty tough on your legs.

I'm considering starting swimming too, or just doing more SCUBA diving, is there anywhere near you where you can swim? Pool, lake, river?
Title: Re: Fitness
Post by: Darxez on July 25, 2012, 07:07:55 pm
I've got a pool in the yard.
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