Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Franswa_Barghouti on August 03, 2012, 10:08:41 pm
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Lets understand each other and be clear about the rule that says "Do not kill without RP reason", now seriusly without joking
I'm playing here since July 2011(one year), one year playing on argonath and I can't understand ANY admin I can't understand this human who made this rule WHAT HE MEAN WITH "RP reason"!
From the punishs that I got I can understand that there is no something called RP reason, I make THE MAXIMUM to do RP reason while killing someone and I make my BEST to do not get punished when I kill someone and I get this punish.
For now I think every one almost I killed him I got punished seems like we have to bring all the admins to this topic and I have to understand from them ALL how they understand the term "RP reason".
I don't know how can I make the admins think that it's good RP reason to kill someone, it's indeed IMPOSIBLE!
Some admins says to me "/me takes out combat shotgun." is enough to kill someone, someone else says "call him and tell him why you want to kill him and warn him before you kill him" someone else " you have to had good RP reason", guys wait a minute! I got confused, I call someone and warn him that he will die for attacking my family and when I come to kill him I RP "/me takes out ... and reloads it" AND I GET PUNISHED!
I called this player and warned him that he's going to die, attacking the mafia that I'm a member of it is a good RP reason, "/me .........." is RP command WHAT ELSE YOU EXPECT FROM ME? TO ASK HIM IF I"M ALLOWED TO KILL HIM? SERIUSLY!
I sometimes check some unban requests, I see some players banned for DM and the admins explains to him that he have to tell the one who he wants to kill THAT HE WILL KILL HIM and THE REASON FOR KILLING HIM.
Here is couple of reports on admins that punished me for DM, and no one care:
I want to report the admin duel for abusing tempban in the following RP -
Sforza family attacked some sopranos and we get order to kill Sforza and capoliano for attacking sopranos(I'm one of sopranos but I did NOT died), some of sopranos went to RP and I was in the heli, they confused to RP and the sopranos leave them.
I called one of capoliano who was with Sforza in the same car and asked them about the reason of attacking sopranos but he hanged up, I called again and warned him and told them get ready to death for attacking sopranos. in this case I told this boy that I want to attack him and I told him the reason, this count as clear RP.
I just followed the car that ID 103 and the mafia was in it without forcing RP till the car blew up I went down on a roof of a build and shout only ID 103 the one that I called him.
After two shoots I get tempban for 60mins for thats not rp dmer.
Here's the chat logs:
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[16:45:09] Phone number of Malik_Capoliano(103) is: 179891
[16:45:12] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:45:16] They picked up the call.
[16:45:22] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Hey malik speaking
[16:45:26] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Hello Capolione
[16:45:40] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want?
[16:45:44] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Can we talk?
[16:46:01] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Are you Malik Capliano?
[16:46:05] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Yep
[16:46:18] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Why do you attacks Sopranos?
[16:46:19] They hung up.
[16:46:26] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:46:30] They picked up the call.
[16:46:31] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Get ready to the death
[16:46:32] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want
[16:46:34] You hung up.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano was tempbanned by Duel(59) for 60 minutes for thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano, you have been temporarily banned from the server by Duel for 60 minutes.
[16:51:15] Date/Time: 03/08/2012 | Ban reason: thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Ban evading will get you permbanned.
[16:51:15] Server closed the connection.
I already explained that it is clear RP and it's obvious.
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Today I got order from my boss to kill Sforza member for attacking sopranos, I said in the CB CARE FOR THE RP.
I called this player, and he called me girl(provoked me), I told him to GET READY FOR DEATH FOR CALLING ME GIRL AND ATTACKING SOPRANOS, he said I WILL BE READY.
here is FULL RP, I told the player that I'm coming to kill him and warned him, told him the reason for killing him(GOOD RP REASON), then what? BOMMMMMM two warnes!
Here is the chat logs:
[22:16:33] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): johan ordered us to kill that boy
[22:16:47] ***[2414] Franswa_Soprano(38): he's with another one I will kill the Sforza
[22:16:53] ***[2414] Franswa_Soprano(38): this time CARE about the RP
[22:16:54] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): wait
[22:17:01] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): im coming
[22:17:02] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): REI
[22:17:03] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): FAST
[22:17:04] ***[2414] Rei_Soprano(95): endri where are u?
[22:17:08] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): going to l
[22:17:09] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): going to ls\
[22:17:22] Phone number of YairSforza(10) is: 7227
[22:17:25] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[22:17:30] They picked up the call.
[22:17:36] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):Hello boy
[22:17:42] YairSforza(10) says(phone):Hello girl.
[22:17:57] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):Girl? ok be ready to death for this word
[22:18:03] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):and for messing with soprano
[22:18:04] YairSforza(10) says(phone):Sure i will
[22:18:07] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):bye
[22:18:08] YairSforza(10) says(phone):I see.
[22:18:08] You hung up.
[22:20:04] You are wanted because of this kill
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I think admins hates sopranos, and I don't want to have dirty history just because the mafia, I want to know how should I kill someone that attacked my friends without getting punished.
I want to get some tips from one high ranked admin how to RP without getting punished for DM, I will consider on this tips and will implement these tips.
Thanks
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Preferably no 'Dming' at all...
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Lets understand each other and be clear about the rule that says "Do not DM without RP reason", now seriusly without joking
I'm playing here since July 2011(one year), one year playing on argonath and I can't understand ANY admin I can't understand this human who made this rule WHAT HE MEAN WITH "RP reason"!
From the punishs that I got I can understand that there is no something called RP reason, I make THE MAXIMUM to do RP reason while killing someone and I make my BEST to do not get punished when I kill someone and I get this punish.
For now I think every one almost I killed him I got punished seems like we have to bring all the admins to this topic and I have to understand from them ALL how they understand the term "RP reason".
I don't know how can I make the admins think that it's good RP reason to kill someone, it's indeed IMPOSIBLE!
Some admins says to me "/me takes out combat shotgun." is enough to kill someone, someone else says "call him and tell him why you want to kill him and warn him before you kill him" someone else " you have to had good RP reason", guys wait a minute! I got confused, I call someone and warn him that he will die for attacking my family and when I come to kill him I RP "/me takes out ... and reloads it" AND I GET PUNISHED!
I called this player and warned him that he's going to die, attacking the mafia that I'm a member of it is a good RP reason, "/me .........." is RP command WHAT ELSE YOU EXPECT FROM ME? TO ASK HIM IF I"M ALLOWED TO KILL HIM? SERIUSLY!
I sometimes check some unban requests, I see some players banned for DM and the admins explains to him that he have to tell the one who he wants to kill THAT HE WILL KILL HIM and THE REASON FOR KILLING HIM.
Here is couple of reports on admins that punished me for DM, and no one care:
I want to report the admin duel for abusing tempban in the following RP -
Sforza family attacked some sopranos and we get order to kill Sforza and capoliano for attacking sopranos(I'm one of sopranos but I did NOT died), some of sopranos went to RP and I was in the heli, they confused to RP and the sopranos leave them.
I called one of capoliano who was with Sforza in the same car and asked them about the reason of attacking sopranos but he hanged up, I called again and warned him and told them get ready to death for attacking sopranos. in this case I told this boy that I want to attack him and I told him the reason, this count as clear RP.
I just followed the car that ID 103 and the mafia was in it without forcing RP till the car blew up I went down on a roof of a build and shout only ID 103 the one that I called him.
After two shoots I get tempban for 60mins for thats not rp dmer.
Here's the chat logs:
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[16:45:09] Phone number of Malik_Capoliano(103) is: 179891
[16:45:12] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:45:16] They picked up the call.
[16:45:22] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Hey malik speaking
[16:45:26] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Hello Capolione
[16:45:40] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want?
[16:45:44] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Can we talk?
[16:46:01] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Are you Malik Capliano?
[16:46:05] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Yep
[16:46:18] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Why do you attacks Sopranos?
[16:46:19] They hung up.
[16:46:26] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:46:30] They picked up the call.
[16:46:31] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Get ready to the death
[16:46:32] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want
[16:46:34] You hung up.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano was tempbanned by Duel(59) for 60 minutes for thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano, you have been temporarily banned from the server by Duel for 60 minutes.
[16:51:15] Date/Time: 03/08/2012 | Ban reason: thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Ban evading will get you permbanned.
[16:51:15] Server closed the connection.
I already explained that it is clear RP and it's obvious.
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Today I got order from my boss to kill Sforza member for attacking sopranos, I said in the CB CARE FOR THE RP.
I called this player, and he called me girl(provoked me), I told him to GET READY FOR DEATH FOR CALLING ME GIRL AND ATTACKING SOPRANOS, he said I WILL BE READY.
here is FULL RP, I told the player that I'm coming to kill him and warned him, told him the reason for killing him(GOOD RP REASON), then what? BOMMMMMM two warnes!
Here is the chat logs:
[22:16:33] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): johan ordered us to kill that boy
[22:16:47] ***[2414] Franswa_Soprano(38): he's with another one I will kill the Sforza
[22:16:53] ***[2414] Franswa_Soprano(38): this time CARE about the RP
[22:16:54] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): wait
[22:17:01] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): im coming
[22:17:02] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): REI
[22:17:03] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): FAST
[22:17:04] ***[2414] Rei_Soprano(95): endri where are u?
[22:17:08] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): going to l
[22:17:09] ***[2414] Endri_Soprano(24): going to ls\
[22:17:22] Phone number of YairSforza(10) is: 7227
[22:17:25] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[22:17:30] They picked up the call.
[22:17:36] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):Hello boy
[22:17:42] YairSforza(10) says(phone):Hello girl.
[22:17:57] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):Girl? ok be ready to death for this word
[22:18:03] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):and for messing with soprano
[22:18:04] YairSforza(10) says(phone):Sure i will
[22:18:07] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):bye
[22:18:08] YairSforza(10) says(phone):I see.
[22:18:08] You hung up.
[22:20:04] You are wanted because of this kill
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I think admins hates sopranos, and I don't want to have dirty history just because the mafia, I want to know how should I kill someone that attacked my friends without getting punished.
I want to get some tips from one high ranked admin how to RP without getting punished for DM, I will consider on this tips and will implement these tips.
Thanks
+1 Franswa I'm 100% with you and I have the same problem as yours, THIS PROBLEM HAVE TO BE SOLVED AND VERY SOON
I think the admins hate sopranos too
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Perhaps if one were to stick to the rules administrators would not 'hate' anyone.
Begin by looking at your group for any issues but of course we are human so we tend to be ignorant to our own. However it is good to look at things from a third person view to see if there really are any issues which need to be resolved.
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No kill* without RP reason.
DM = Killing with no rp reason
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Did you even read my PM? No..
I tempbanned you because, you followed a group of players around, after I announced you 4 times in big red text on your screen to leave each other alone, yet you did not listen, proceeded to follow them, their car blew. You landed your heli, got out with a combat, and just shot with no roleplay, warning what so ever.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=86606.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=86606.0) - Similar to your case.
[16:45:09] Phone number of Malik_Capoliano(103) is: 179891
[16:45:12] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:45:16] They picked up the call.
[16:45:22] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Hey malik speaking
[16:45:26] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Hello Capolione
[16:45:40] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want?
[16:45:44] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Can we talk?
[16:46:01] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Are you Malik Capliano?
[16:46:05] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Yep
[16:46:18] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Why do you attacks Sopranos?
[16:46:19] They hung up.
[16:46:26] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:46:30] They picked up the call.
[16:46:31] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Get ready to the death
[16:46:32] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want
Is that your reason? :lol:
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Did you even read my PM? No..
I tempbanned you because, you followed a group of players around, after I announced you 4 times in big red text on your screen to leave each other alone, yet you did not listen, proceeded to follow them, their car blew. You landed your heli, got out with a combat, and just shot with no roleplay, warning what so ever.
[url=http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=86606.0]http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=86606.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=86606.0)[/url] - Similar to your case.
Is that your reason? :lol:
let me fix you, you are wrong!
You said don't force RP on them, so my group leaved them and did not force RP on them.
I leaved too but then tried to call a player and RP, and he ACCEPTED to RP by hanging up the phone and listen to my warning toward him.
There's differents
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I understand the fact that alot of mafias/families are around nowadays. They have alot of enemies, friends e.t.c. Guys, killing for a specific simple reason like Franswa just mentioned calling him a 'girl' isn't that valid. In these situations, you can RP-ly meet the specific person, you can torture him other than just stepping infront of his car and killing him. That's no taste of roleplay, i think most of the people haven't discovered the main fun of roleplaying.
I'm a regular SAMP player, i usually see they are creating gang wars over the mainchat. 'Come at me bro', 'we are stronger' e.t.c, do you have any specific reason of it else showing off? They haven't stepped in your turf, they haven't provoked you RPly, they haven't robbed anyone of your member. Just they have did it called 'more stonger than you'.
What i will say is create some of your own imagination in your roleplays, think wisely and think thoroughly before you act.
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let me fix you, you are wrong!
You said don't force RP on them, so my group leaved them and did not force RP on them.
I leaved too but then tried to call a player and RP, and he ACCEPTED to RP by hanging up the phone and listen to my warning toward him.
There's differents
I announced that you guys should leave each other alone.
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[16:45:09] Phone number of Malik_Capoliano(103) is: 179891
[16:45:12] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:45:16] They picked up the call.
[16:45:22] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Hey malik speaking
[16:45:26] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Hello Capolione
[16:45:40] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want?
[16:45:44] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Can we talk?
[16:46:01] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Are you Malik Capliano?
[16:46:05] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Yep
[16:46:18] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Why do you attacks Sopranos?
[16:46:19] They hung up.
[16:46:26] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:46:30] They picked up the call.
[16:46:31] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Get ready to the death
[16:46:32] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want
[16:46:34] You hung up.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano was tempbanned by Duel(59) for 60 minutes for thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano, you have been temporarily banned from the server by Duel for 60 minutes.
[16:51:15] Date/Time: 03/08/2012 | Ban reason: thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Ban evading will get you permbanned.
[16:51:15] Server closed the connection.
Is that your reason? :lol:
do you really expect a guy to call you in real life asking:
Why did you kill my teddy bear?
you will simply hangup
he calls again:
get ready to die.
I don't think you count your reason real
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Guys, killing for a specific simple reason like Franswa just mentioned calling him a 'girl' isn't that valid
Indeed I liked your words and I'm with you, but from my side I don't like to create a mafia to have enemies in game, and go kill some players in the future if I make mafia I will try my best to be friend with much players and have peace with them.
Actually from your words I didn't like this term, I don't know why every one hears my story stuck on this reason and doesn't look at the whole reasons :(
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 02:47:15 am
do you really expect a guy to call you in real life asking:
Why did you kill my teddy bear?
you will simply hangup
he calls again:
get ready to die.
I don't think you count your reason real
Ah are you new here? it's Argonath boy not real life, you totally look at the situation wrongly.
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Ah are you new here? it's Argonath boy not real life, you totally look at the situation wrongly.
Does not matter if he's new or not, he still has a point.
Yes Argonath is not real life, but that still does not favour you going around shooting people for stupid reasons.. Also, if you where willing to roleplay it, you would have shouted a few words to your victim, to show him what you where there for, and actually roleplayed it further. Killing someone won't solve anything.
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Does not matter if he's new or not, he still has a point.
Yes Argonath is not real life, but that still does not favour you going around shooting people for stupid reasons.. Also, if you where willing to roleplay it, you would have shouted a few words to your victim, to show him what you where there for, and actually roleplayed it further. Killing someone won't solve anything.
you count provoking and attacking sopranos is a stupid RP reason? then shame I don't have anything to say here.
I did not and will not go around and kill players without reason, I have account in paruni, I already explain how I RPed, and already ask his player about the reason of attacking sopranos and warned them about that(he know pretty good why I came there from my call), nothing to say except it was abuse and you didn't understand the story before taking action.
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Indeed I liked your words and I'm with you, but from my side I don't like to create a mafia to have enemies in game, and go kill some players in the future if I make mafia I will try my best to be friend with much players and have peace with them.
Actually from your words I didn't like this term, I don't know why every one hears my story stuck on this reason and doesn't look at the whole reasons :(
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 02:47:15 am
Ah are you new here? it's Argonath boy not real life, you totally look at the situation wrongly.
Its not about whenmade, or how old is who on Argonath, knowledge cannot be judged by the time spent.
And we do use some facts from real life here, why do you think mafias are not allowed to go on cop hunting spree once suspected?
Also the video in this post, is a good enough reason to get you perm banned, as randomly shooting people with sniper is considered DM.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=81688.msg1400991#msg1400991 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=81688.msg1400991#msg1400991)
And I'm sorry, the problem with the Soprano group I believe is communication problems, most of their members don't know proper english, probably that's why the RP from them is so low?
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Am i the only one that doesnt see any rulebreak in this? I mean, the attacked a person from his family, i think that's enough of a RP reason to attack back..
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We do know argonath is not a RL-SRS RP server. BUT there is something you guys haven't seen when you login.
- Stay under the decent realms of roleplay.
I think this answers it all.
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This is hilarious.
Admins and owners always wanted not to make a jungle of rules. In the end, they ended up with the self-inflicted complex rules with some exceptions here and there.
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Am i the only one that doesnt see any rulebreak in this? I mean, the attacked a person from his family, i think that's enough of a RP reason to attack back..
You attack me, 5 hours later I attack you for no apparent reason. We're just enemies so it's ok!
Not.
Also, everyone talks about role-play between this kind of groups, I've been part of one or two, and sometimes I was just standing in the street, they come to me and say: omg you're from ***** family! We're enemies, you're coming with us! I wonder how they can tell who I am, so I start talking with them... I end up running away from 3 cars and 8 guys... I guess my face is familiar around San Andreas!
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You attack me, 5 hours later I attack you for no apparent reason. We're just enemies so it's ok!
Not.
Also, everyone talks about role-play between this kind of groups, I've been part of one or two, and sometimes I was just standing in the street, they come to me and say: omg you're from ***** family! We're enemies, you're coming with us! I wonder how they can tell who I am, so I start talking with them... I end up running away from 3 cars and 8 guys... I guess my face is familiar around San Andreas!
Not exactly 5 hours later, but if someone from one mafia attacked someone from another, it's sure that they wont let it just go away, now will they? I dont really see how this isnt a valid reason
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Not exactly 5 hours later, but if someone from one mafia attacked someone from another, it's sure that they wont let it just go away, now will they? I dont really see how this isnt a valid reason
You were NOT at the situation where Franswa sprayed a Combat at SFAP. He rocks up in the heli, gets out, and just shoots..
I don't see any roleplay there, if you want to carry on shitting on administration then I suggest you contact an owner, and speak it out, with administrators appearance. JCS warned you later that day for attacking with no roleplay reason, you wen't on main chat and moaned about it, can't you just accepted your punishment and move on?
you count provoking and attacking sopranos is a stupid RP reason? then shame I don't have anything to say here.
I did not and will not go around and kill players without reason, I have account in paruni, I already explain how I RPed, and already ask his player about the reason of attacking sopranos and warned them about that(he know pretty good why I came there from my call), nothing to say except it was abuse and you didn't understand the story before taking action.
What was their reason for attacking you? If they did not have a reason, why didn't you report? No.
The tempban was placed because you IGNORED what administration told you to do, I announced it 3-4 times TO LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE.
Did you? No, you procceeded to follow them, and shot at them once their car blew.
Get your facts straight, before you accuse administration of bullshit.
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Its not about whenmade, or how old is who on Argonath, knowledge cannot be judged by the time spent.
And we do use some facts from real life here, why do you think mafias are not allowed to go on cop hunting spree once suspected?
Also the video in this post, is a good enough reason to get you perm banned, as randomly shooting people with sniper is considered DM.
^ Suggest everyone reads that.
This is hilarious.
Admins and owners always wanted not to make a jungle of rules. In the end, they ended up with the self-inflicted complex rules with some exceptions here and there.
And for you, We do know argonath is not a RL-SRS RP server. BUT there is something you guys haven't seen when you login.
- Stay under the decent realms of roleplay.
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ok, here's a solution for you not to get punished for DMing as you keep insisting on saying you never did anything wrong
provoke your enemies to shoot your first...if you're truly desperate, F8 them shooting you..THEN fight back...in theory you can't get punished in any way for that. We're all humans, provoking another person to shoot you (in RP term) is extremely easy. Just come up with some tough guy talk and see him rage and take that Spas-12 out of his ass, just be sure you don't get reported for ruining roleplay (if such even occurs during your action)
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both reasons are NOT valid, you were attacked by capolianos and you got owned by them, you have no right to return if you got killed or you were AFK/Offline - same for the Sforza, so if you got ordered to /q inside mordor without calling a teleport from admins, will you do it?
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The way I see it, no rulebreak has been done. When you kill someone with a tag, expect his friends to avenge him.
So some Sopranos got killed by Capoliano, the remaining alive Sopranos found out about that incident and decided to set out on vendetta.
That's their RP reason. ^
Now that they have their RP reason, all the Sopranos need to do to make the kill valid is to make sure the victim is aware of the reason. That is to prevent the "Ermagherd u kill mai famly!" "Wut?" *pewpewpew* scenario. By simply sending an /sms explaining the reason behind the kill, or calling like it has been done here, the victim got informed of the reason and had all the time in the world to retaliate. The fact that the victim simply ignored the warning is not the killers problem.
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Now that they have their RP reason, all the Sopranos need to do to make the kill valid is to make sure the victim is aware of the reason.
So, if someone says that another killed their friend, they would believe them, go up and shoot with no warning at all?
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Playing for over a year and you still don't know what roleplay is
Maybe a change in server is required, one that allows you to kill someone for being called "girl"
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So, if someone says that another killed their friend, they would believe them, go up and shoot with no warning at all?
That's how we roll in my neighbourhood.
It's funny how people create this topics, but in the next day they come crying because they were "DM'd". :roll:
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You attack me, 5 hours later I attack you for no apparent reason. We're just enemies so it's ok!
Yes that's fine (if a bit of a dick move to leave it so long). Anyone in a mafia knows this.
So, if someone says that another killed their friend, they would believe them, go up and shoot with no warning at all?
Well.. yea. They're in a group together, why would there not be the element of trust there?
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Could anyone explain why every topic about "RP" is about when you can start to kill someone?
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Let me see if I got it right.
When someone messes with your group, you simple get their number, you call them, you come up to them and shoot? Man..........
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Playing for over a year and you still don't know what roleplay is
Maybe a change in server is required, one that allows you to kill someone for being called "girl"
Call me crazy, but have you ever considered he might be Rping a character with a condition?
Heres a point I've thought about for awhile, unless San Andreas has a filtered population of only completely mentally healthy subjects whats to stop someone who has a mental deficiency from taking up arms and gunning down the closest to him, its not DM because its a Roleplaying a mentally unstable subject, people have done it before but with different outcomes. This is my personal opinion that if it has been well executed it should be allowed, or are we not allowed to Roleplay the insane?
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I must agree with Nathan here...
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At reading chatlogs you made my day. So yesterday when I investigated your "RP" situation you claimed you've been sent to murder an person and he called you girl so that's why he died.
When I asked you for what reason you have been sent,you said you have no clue . So clearly DM as you shot your victim only because someone said you to do so, not even clearing back round before actually engage.
Then you claimed he called you a "girl" which apparently was enough reason to shoot . When showing your chatlogs ,you could clearly see you said him hi boy,so he answered hi girl in a non serious manner,which is not worth assaulting anybody only because they are having fun and not taking you serious.
You do not seem recognize between roleplay and DM,so you should study abit more before creating such topics. ;)
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At reading chatlogs you made my day. So yesterday when I investigated your "RP" situation you claimed you've been sent to murder an person and he called you girl so that's why he died.
When I asked you for what reason you have been sent,you said you have no clue . So clearly DM as you shot your victim only because someone said you to do so, not even clearing back round before actually engage.
Then you claimed he called you a "girl" which apparently was enough reason to shoot . When showing your chatlogs ,you could clearly see you said him hi boy,so he answered hi girl in a non serious manner,which is not worth assaulting anybody only because they are having fun and not taking you serious.
You do not seem recognize between roleplay and DM,so you should study abit more before creating such topics. ;)
Actually, I have been killed already because someone told someone ( I will not say names ) Gvardia were going to kill them and we were just driving. Haha-ha-ha. :lol:
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Actually, I have been killed already because someone told someone ( I will not say names ) Gvardia were going to kill them and we were just driving. Haha-ha-ha. :lol:
Such things happen regularly,but till someone brings it up people always get confused or mislead then make such topics and accuse admins of doing job wrong. :razz:
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Call me crazy, but have you ever considered he might be Rping a character with a condition?
Heres a point I've thought about for awhile, unless San Andreas has a filtered population of only completely mentally healthy subjects whats to stop someone who has a mental deficiency from taking up arms and gunning down the closest to him, its not DM because its a Roleplaying a mentally unstable subject, people have done it before but with different outcomes. This is my personal opinion that if it has been well executed it should be allowed, or are we not allowed to Roleplay the insane?
Read our 2006 Character guide.
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as randomly shooting people with
I think the defect on you, how hard it's to understand that I wanted to kill a player for two reasons, two=2 and these two reasons is provoking and attacking sopranos. OH god now you come again and tell me shoot people randomly with sniper!!?
Secondly yes we do use facts from real life, but not always.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 07:15:12 pm
Am i the only one that doesnt see any rulebreak in this? I mean, the attacked a person from his family, i think that's enough of a RP reason to attack back..
Exactly dude, +1 but I don't know why they punish me!!
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 07:20:43 pm
You attack me, 5 hours later I attack you for no apparent reason. We're just enemies so it's ok!
Not.
Wait wait bro you understood the situation wrongly, it's not "5 hours later I attack you" and not "for no apparent reason", I wanted to RP and I called this bad boy before I went to kill him we had talk about why he attacked sopranos and a long story, don't take it like just killed me and I go killed him and that's it, I know it's not DM server so you have to RP before you go to kill someone and that's what I did.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 07:24:57 pm
You were NOT at the situation where Franswa sprayed a Combat at SFAP. He rocks up in the heli, gets out, and just shoots..
The only thing that makes me f**king angry in you or another admin that you take the part that you want from the story and leave it incomplete, if I heard your story and I'm not franswa I would say "It's defiantly DM!" excuse me if you want to reply here on my doings reply [size=-webkit-xxx-large]full[/size] storry and don't choose parts from the story to post it.!
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 07:28:58 pm
[aeva]JCS warned you later that day for attacking with no roleplay reason, you wen't on main chat and moaned about it, can't you just accepted your punishment and move on?
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no roleplay reason? Orealy? and what are we talking about from the beginning!
accept the punishment? why should I if it's clear abuse?! I accept punishment only if I see that I made rulebreak.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 07:31:07 pm
The tempban was placed because you IGNORED what administration told you to do, I announced it 3-4 times TO LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE.
You told the sopranos who was trying to RP with them TO LEAVE THEM AND DON"T FORCE RP ON THEM and I wasn't one of them in that RP I was just in the heli.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 07:32:12 pm
Did you? No, you procceeded to follow them, and shot at them once their car blew.
Again you chose what to post from the real story and leave it incomplete.
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Could anyone explain why every topic about "RP" is about when you can start to kill someone?
because the only roleplay that many people does is killing and similar things
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no roleplay reason? Orealy? and what are we talking about from the beginning!
accept the punishment? why should I if it's clear abuse?! I accept punishment only if I see that I made rulebreak.
[email protected] , and ignore it. If not, face the consequences.
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Read our 2006 Character guide.
Post link
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http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/SA-MP_Role-playing_Guide (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/SA-MP_Role-playing_Guide) ?
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both reasons are NOT valid, you were attacked by capolianos and you got owned by them, you have no right to return if you got killed or you were AFK/Offline - same for the Sforza, so if you got ordered to /q inside mordor without calling a teleport from admins, will you do it?
You don't know what you are talking about, I never got killed by the one who I killed :trust: and I know RK(revenge kill) isn't allowed on argonath.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 10:57:18 pm
The way I see it, no rulebreak has been done. When you kill someone with a tag, expect his friends to avenge him.
So some Sopranos got killed by Capoliano, the remaining alive Sopranos found out about that incident and decided to set out on vendetta.
That's their RP reason. ^
Now that they have their RP reason, all the Sopranos need to do to make the kill valid is to make sure the victim is aware of the reason. That is to prevent the "Ermagherd u kill mai famly!" "Wut?" *pewpewpew* scenario. By simply sending an /sms explaining the reason behind the kill, or calling like it has been done here, the victim got informed of the reason and had all the time in the world to retaliate. The fact that the victim simply ignored the warning is not the killers problem.
Man, hope every one see this topic look to this reply, it's the best explain for what happened :)
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 10:59:09 pm
So, if someone says that another killed their friend, they would believe them, go up and shoot with no warning at all?
I was aware that he killed some of sopranos with capoliano, and warned him.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:02:33 pm
Playing for over a year and you still don't know what roleplay is
Maybe a change in server is required, one that allows you to kill someone for being called "girl"
Oh again admin, I was expecting that from you, again and again and again the same words I said and always says only for admins IDK why.
finish reading my topic then reply, there's another major reason for that RP, hope it's the last time I say that.
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I wont even bother replying.. :lol:
Made my night
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That's how we roll in my neighbourhood.
It's funny how people create this topics, but in the next day they come crying because they were "DM'd". :roll:
You may respect this topic and every one reply here, you didn't like what I typed in this topic you better don't reply here!.
I didn't created this topic for you, got good words to say shout, don't have better leave it for you.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:06:54 pm
Yes that's fine (if a bit of a dick move to leave it so long). Anyone in a mafia knows this.
Well.. yea. They're in a group together, why would there not be the element of trust there?
Who knows :|
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:13:03 pm
Could anyone explain why every topic about "RP" is about when you can start to kill someone?
Mr gandalf I didn't create this topic for asking how can I kill someone, I don't like to DM trust me I got account in paruni with the name "Franswa_Barghouti" when I'm up to DM I will go there.
I created this topic to stop lets call it "the taking action in haste" I mean for admins.
I like to RP and sometimes to kill somebody by RPing but unfortunately admins doesn't give me chance to do so or even let me explain when they see me shooting someone.
Admins before taking any action can freeze me and ask me "why you are shooting this player?" "what's your reason for shooting this player?" "do you have any RP reason for shooting this player?" but no better use "/kick or /tempban ID" in these situations.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:14:03 pm
Let me see if I got it right.
When someone messes with your group, you simple get their number, you call them, you come up to them and shoot? Man..........
Understood wrong, better you go down and check some of my replies.
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Hard to understand what's the point of this topic, like many others!
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Call me crazy, but have you ever considered he might be Rping a character with a condition?
Heres a point I've thought about for awhile, unless San Andreas has a filtered population of only completely mentally healthy subjects whats to stop someone who has a mental deficiency from taking up arms and gunning down the closest to him, its not DM because its a Roleplaying a mentally unstable subject, people have done it before but with different outcomes. This is my personal opinion that if it has been well executed it should be allowed, or are we not allowed to Roleplay the insane?
you are right 100%, +1
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:17:55 pm
I must agree with Nathan here...
me too :)
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:23:04 pm
At reading chatlogs you made my day. So yesterday when I investigated your "RP" situation you claimed you've been sent to murder an person and he called you girl so that's why he died.
When I asked you for what reason you have been sent,you said you have no clue . So clearly DM as you shot your victim only because someone said you to do so, not even clearing back round before actually engage.
Then you claimed he called you a "girl" which apparently was enough reason to shoot . When showing your chatlogs ,you could clearly see you said him hi boy,so he answered hi girl in a non serious manner,which is not worth assaulting anybody only because they are having fun and not taking you serious.
You do not seem recognize between roleplay and DM,so you should study abit more before creating such topics. ;)
Expect it from you too, same words I said to Duel and conroy.
Learn to read, you are taking only the parts that you liked from the story
[22:17:57] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):Girl? ok be ready to death for this word
[22:18:03] Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):and for messing with soprano
I had to put this sentence in bold with 36pt font size.
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:24:36 pm
Such things happen regularly,but till someone brings it up people always get confused or mislead then make such topics and accuse admins of doing job wrong. :razz:
You understanding the topic wrong I didn't say admins doing their job wrong, better get down and look to my reply to gandalf
Post Merge: August 04, 2012, 11:30:13 pm
Hard to understand what's the point of this topic, like many others!
I can't see much people who doesn't understand the point of this topic, only you, I don't know why.
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You opened an topic claiming you have roleplayed properly when you clearly have not,I provided you few points proving your being wrong here.
I'm not going out of context,it's you again not understanding . ;)
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Call me crazy, but have you ever considered he might be Rping a character with a condition?
Heres a point I've thought about for awhile, unless San Andreas has a filtered population of only completely mentally healthy subjects whats to stop someone who has a mental deficiency from taking up arms and gunning down the closest to him, its not DM because its a Roleplaying a mentally unstable subject, people have done it before but with different outcomes. This is my personal opinion that if it has been well executed it should be allowed, or are we not allowed to Roleplay the insane?
Read our 2006 Character guide.
If you don't know what the actual 2006 character guide says then it basically says - being a psychopath is not a valid role play reason to kill anyone.
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I think admins hates sopranos, and I don't want to have dirty history just because the mafia, I want to know how should I kill someone that attacked my friends without getting punished.
I want to get some tips from one high ranked admin how to RP without getting punished for DM, I will consider on this tips and will implement these tips.
You understanding the topic wrong I didn't say admins doing their job wrong, better get down and look to my reply to gandalf
Of course...answers were given, what else do you want?
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You don't know what you are talking about, I never got killed by the one who I killed :trust: and I know RK(revenge kill) isn't allowed on argonath.
you were off during the attack, you got ordered to kill them because they wanted you to RK for them.
been offline during a shootout scene? you have no right to: engage implying you were out of town, sneak-kill evreyone, go RAMBO!! at them, mean you have NO right to fire a single bullet
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Or 178.63.52.144:7780
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Roleplaying is not /call 513345
me: hey
him : yo
me: you died
/hangup
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you got ordered to kill them because they wanted you to RK for them.
To let you know I don't do any order if I saw it's rulebreak or illogical.
The situation you are talking about isn't RK, RK is to get killed by someone and after a period of time you go kill him and that's not what happened.
Post Merge: August 05, 2012, 11:00:10 am
Or 178.63.52.144:7780
well you don't understand what's going on :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post Merge: August 05, 2012, 11:03:30 am
Roleplaying is not /call 513345
me: hey
him : yo
me: you died
/hangup
You too don't understand what's going on, first I didn't said "hey" and he said "yo", second I didn't said "you died" it's not in this simple way, and ofcurse it's not ruleplay.
There's reasons for this call, in this call I asked him about the reasons of attacking sopranos, gave him much time to understand that he will be attacked and get ready.
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Want good criminal roleplay? Don't buy guns and advise the other party to do the same. You can't do anything but RP then.
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Want good criminal roleplay? Don't buy guns and advise the other party to do the same. You can't do anything but RP then.
In his case it's all about killing enemy without getting punished because that's what server demands from him,not that he want's roleplay anyway . :razz:
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In his case it's all about killing enemy without getting punished because that's what server demands from him,not that he want's roleplay anyway . :razz:
In that case, Notify an administrator and make the other party agree to an incoming shootout. Not just go get your combat and kill everyone with that professional lag of yours. (Not directed to you, Chris! :p )
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Well he learned that if you call your victim and ask him why he attacked your family (even tho if your unaware why you got attacked should report it to administration as dm) and he hangups during call,you can call him back and say "your dead" then hangup your self.
And consider it was roleplay notify :lol:
Or if you call your victim ,say to him boy and he says to you girl,you can kill him for it as calling you a girl is worst scenario ever!
:lol:
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phone1: why did you attack my Teddy bear?
phone2: huh?
phone1: get ready for death for that!!
phone2 hangsup.
I don't think that counts as roleplayer, but that does:
phone1: hello are you malik copliano?
phone2: yes
phone1: in your attack against the sopranos, you shot a bullet and killed my sister there, I am here to take revenge.
phone2 hangs up
That's a roleplay reason to kill
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And for you,
Makes no sense, everything is within realms of roleplay. The fact that one or another sees something as "poor RP" or some imaginary shit like that depends on the point of view, whereas, if i remember correct, there is no poor or good RP on Argonath, as there is no metagaming or powergaming on Argonath. There is only the roleplay.
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Uhmmmm..
THis isn't a RP Reason...
What if I come to you and says: Get ready to your death?
Firstly why don't you go near him,tries to rob him and if you fail you may open fire...
One does not DM with one /me
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Uhmmmm..
THis isn't a RP Reason...
What if I come to you and says: Get ready to your death?
Firstly why don't you go near him,tries to rob him and if you fail you may open fire...
One does not DM with one /me
those /me shoots are bullshits and they are only for people who is non-RPer
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Or if you call your victim ,say to him boy and he says to you girl,you can kill him for it as calling you a girl is worst scenario ever!
:lol:
Every day admins makes me angry because they don't uses their bairns.
I explained this fact for hundred times and only for admins, why? don't ask me!
It's the last time that I explain this fact for admins!
I killed this bad ass for attacking my family [size=-webkit-xxx-large]and[/size] for calling me girl
Hope HOPE you understand it now, if not, and that what I expect, go translate this sentence in google translate(translate.google.com) to the other language that you can understand(this language that I used here is english you will find it in the list inside the box right there)
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so if I call you a girl in-real life your gonna' kill me? :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Every day admins makes me angry because they don't uses their bairns.
I explained this fact for hundred times and only for admins, why? don't ask me!
It's the last time that I explain this fact for admins!
I killed this bad ass for attacking my family [size=-webkit-xxx-large]and[/size] for calling me girl
Hope HOPE you understand it now, if not, and that what I expect, go translate this sentence in google translate(translate.google.com) to the other language that you can understand(this language that I used here is english you will find it in the list inside the box right there)
I am similar with your " attacked my family" as last time you were punished by me because some dude told you ,kill that guy because he attacked us and without clarify or question you went and shot him. In current situation you are missing not only brains but basic understanding of roleplay and then you come here making such topics and discussing an thing your not even understanding your self.
It's ridiculous isn't it?
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so if I call you a girl in-real life your gonna' kill me? :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'm afraid to say you might be mentally challenged. Especially considering Franswa_Barghouti's post RIGHT above yours.
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Franswa_Soprano(38) says(phone):Girl? ok be ready to death for this word
Ye right...
Understand this - Because you are being called "faggot" "idiot" "bitch" "girl" "boy" "fat" "thin" "weak" or anything else in those terms do not grant you to kill the responsibile player. We are not a team deathmatch server, we are a roleplay server. You do not kill someone because you are called the opposite gender - Do you wish to be wanted because of such silly thing? Wake up.
Your "conversations" are short and hard to understand as an outsider. Speak more, shoot less. Roleplay isn't shooting, as the majority of you seems to see it that way. You find lame excuses to attack eachother and you can not let it go until you have won. When you win, you provoke the opposite party.
Wake up and realise what you can improve, because you are the only one who can improve your self.
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I'm afraid to say you might be mentally challenged. Especially considering Franswa_Barghouti's post RIGHT above yours.
you joined 2 days ago and thinking I am a bit....
I think "you" might have a problem with how you see things smart guy
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you joined 2 days ago and thinking I am a bit....
I think "you" might have a problem with how you see things smart guy
Kirgiz: With us since: 06/05/2012
Actually 3 months ago, so who has the problem with seeing things now?
And if you think how long I am here is all that matters, then I am very sorry for all the elitism you have in your brains. Please refrain from posting in this specific topic if you have nothing useful to contribute to the discussion.
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Please refrain from posting in this specific topic if you have nothing useful to contribute to the discussion.
This topic is for you:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=83057.0
you have no right to tell me: where to post - how to post - why to post. I think you got nothing but replying to my comments.
I am not going to enter in useless fights with you
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This topic is for you:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=83057.0
you have no right to tell me: where to post - how to post - why to post. I think you got nothing but replying to my comments.
I am not going to enter in useless fights with you
Now, dear, I never ordered you, I just kindly asked for a request because you do not contribute to the topic. No need to be hostile.
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Ye right...
Understand this - Because you are being called "bad guy" "idiot" "bad girl" "girl" "boy" "fat" "thin" "weak" or anything else in those terms do not grant you to kill the responsibile player. We are not a team deathmatch server, we are a roleplay server. You do not kill someone because you are called the opposite gender - Do you wish to be wanted because of such silly thing? Wake up.
Your "conversations" are short and hard to understand as an outsider. Speak more, shoot less. Roleplay isn't shooting, as the majority of you seems to see it that way. You find lame excuses to attack eachother and you can not let it go until you have won. When you win, you provoke the opposite party.
Wake up and realise what you can improve, because you are the only one who can improve your self.
What if the person has mental troubles? That's valid reason to kill. Just look outside, at the real world. Crimes happen for simple stuff and gets punished the law enforcement!
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[16:45:09] Phone number of Malik_Capoliano(103) is: 179891
[16:45:12] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:45:16] They picked up the call.
[16:45:22] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Hey malik speaking
[16:45:26] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Hello Capolione
[16:45:40] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want?
[16:45:44] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Can we talk?
[16:46:01] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Are you Malik Capliano?
[16:46:05] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):Yep
[16:46:18] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Why do you attacks Sopranos?
[16:46:19] They hung up.
[16:46:26] HINT: You now use T to talk on your cellphone, type /hangup to hang up.
[16:46:30] They picked up the call.
[16:46:31] Franswa_Soprano(29) says(phone):Get ready to the death
[16:46:32] Malik_Capoliano(103) says(phone):What you want
[16:46:34] You hung up.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano was tempbanned by Duel(59) for 60 minutes for thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Franswa_Soprano, you have been temporarily banned from the server by Duel for 60 minutes.
[16:51:15] Date/Time: 03/08/2012 | Ban reason: thats not rp dmer.
[16:51:15] Ban evading will get you permbanned.
[16:51:15] Server closed the connection.
I already explained that it is clear RP and it's obvious.
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I don't find that as RP, sorry.
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What if the person has mental troubles? That's valid reason to kill. Just look outside, at the real world. Crimes happen for simple stuff and gets punished the law enforcement!
The only thing I would never accept for killing on roleplay servers (or atleast the more soft servers such as Argonath) are mental illnesses. Because if you look at Real Life, people do not respawn or sit in jail for far too long than 3 minutes. And having a mental illness is just too easy for an excuse.
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The only thing I would never accept for killing on roleplay servers (or atleast the more soft servers such as Argonath) are mental illnesses. Because if you look at Real Life, people do not respawn or sit in jail for far too long than 3 minutes. And having a mental illness is just too easy for an excuse.
sorry to burst the bubble but this is not real life, as you can see everyone is ALLOWED to roleplay anything they want as far as it doesn't go against the rules or argonath's vision, I think you should read it before posting more comments here, http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Vision
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I wonder why this topic hasn't been locked as the only thing I can see here is moaning... :/
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I wonder why this topic hasn't been locked as the only thing I can see here is moaning... :/
Most likely because people enjoy having arguments for some reason, or because nobody reported it yet.
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sorry to burst the bubble but this is not real life, as you can see everyone is ALLOWED to roleplay anything they want as far as it doesn't go against the rules or argonath's vision, I think you should read it before posting more comments here, http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Vision
If you manage to actually roleplay someone with mental problems you might get away with it.
However standing somewhere shooting at everyone and then telling an admin you are having mental problems is not roleplay. It is what you have in real life.
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If you manage to actually roleplay someone with mental problems you might get away with it.
that's what I meant
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that's what I meant
However please tell us how you would roleplay such a person.
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Makes no sense, everything is within realms of roleplay. The fact that one or another sees something as "poor RP" or some imaginary shit like that depends on the point of view, whereas, if i remember correct, there is no poor or good RP on Argonath, as there is no metagaming or powergaming on Argonath. There is only the roleplay.
You are definitely right, if you are talking about "LS-RP" you can ban me there for this kind of RP!
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 05:57:35 pm
Uhmmmm..
THis isn't a RP Reason...
What if I come to you and says: Get ready to your death?
Firstly why don't you go near him,tries to rob him and if you fail you may open fire...
One does not DM with one /me
I didn't jsut told him "Get ready to your death?", I told him the reason of "Get ready to your death?" and it was a good RP reason.
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 05:59:06 pm
so if I call you a girl in-real life your gonna' kill me? :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
Actually the same words that I said to Chris works on you :)
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:03:54 pm
I am similar with your " attacked my family" as last time you were punished by me because some dude told you ,kill that guy because he attacked us and without clarify or question you went and shot him. In current situation you are missing not only brains but basic understanding of roleplay and then you come here making such topics and discussing an thing your not even understanding your self.
It's ridiculous isn't it?
First of all I don't see it's ridiculous, if you see that why you are even reading my topic and posting here?!
Secondly I'm pretty sure that the one who I killed killed my family, not because someone told me to do so, as I said before I don't do something if I saw it's illogical.
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:05:44 pm
I'm afraid to say you might be mentally challenged. Especially considering Franswa_Barghouti's post RIGHT above yours.
Hahahaha seems true ;)
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:09:57 pm
Ye right...
Understand this - Because you are being called "bad guy" "idiot" "bad girl" "girl" "boy" "fat" "thin" "weak" or anything else in those terms do not grant you to kill the responsibile player. We are not a team deathmatch server, we are a roleplay server. You do not kill someone because you are called the opposite gender - Do you wish to be wanted because of such silly thing? Wake up.
Your "conversations" are short and hard to understand as an outsider. Speak more, shoot less. Roleplay isn't shooting, as the majority of you seems to see it that way. You find lame excuses to attack eachother and you can not let it go until you have won. When you win, you provoke the opposite party.
Wake up and realise what you can improve, because you are the only one who can improve your self.
blah blah blah I can't even continue reading.
Go up in the page, check the reply above you then check the first reply in the page then reply here :)
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:10:41 pm
you joined 2 days ago and thinking I am a bit....
I think "you" might have a problem with how you see things smart guy
You are the one who have problem with these such things, boy.
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:11:55 pm
you joined 2 days ago and thinking I am a bit....
I think "you" might have a problem with how you see things smart guy
Ah also add it doesn't matter when he joined, as they said here before!
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:13:36 pm
This topic is for you:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=83057.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=83057.0)
you have no right to tell me: where to post - how to post - why to post. I think you got nothing but replying to my comments.
I am not going to enter in useless fights with you
Yes you are allowed to post on any topic here except the unban requests, but you have to know what you are replying open your eyes when you are replying here!
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Exactly, you react what you think is logical for you,however it ends as DM by Argonath rules.
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What if the person has mental troubles? That's valid reason to kill. Just look outside, at the real world. Crimes happen for simple stuff and gets punished the law enforcement!
ah fantastic words, the real meaning of roleplay!
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:17:57 pm
I don't find that as RP, sorry.
You don't other does.
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:20:10 pm
sorry to burst the bubble but this is not real life, as you can see everyone is ALLOWED to roleplay anything they want as far as it doesn't go against the rules or argonath's vision, I think you should read it before posting more comments here, http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Vision (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Vision)
Ehm seems you fail again!
The point of his reply the same as your point, argonath isn't real life, understand what he's saying before typing!
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:22:09 pm
I wonder why this topic hasn't been locked as the only thing I can see here is moaning... :/
What you see isn't what happening!
Gandalf and many admins posting here and sharing their opinions it's the main proof that it's not moan.
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 06:24:11 pm
Most likely because people enjoy having arguments for some reason, or because nobody reported it yet.
Actually same words I said to Luis I'm saying to you
What you see isn't what happening!Gandalf and many admins posting here and sharing their opinions it's the main proof that it's not moan.
then hahahahaahaa someone report this??? why should they while gandalf and many admins posting here :lol: :lol: :lol: funny!
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then hahahahaahaa someone report this??? why should they while gandalf and many admins posting here :lol: :lol: :lol: funny!
That post was funny.
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You are definitely right, if you are talking about "LS-RP" you can ban me there for this kind of RP!
Then you can be banned here for the same.
him "Get ready to your death?", I told him the reason of "Get ready to your death?" and it was a good RP reason.
No, that is an invitation for Team DM.
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Several people from the administration team have replied to your topic. Yet you refuse to understand and acknowledge our words and guidelines. How do you think you will stay away from administrative punishments if you shuffle away our comments and attempts to help you? Realise what you can improve and you will be a better player.
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If you will keep claim it was roleplay when server owner clearly said it was DM,then you will just prove your just being ignorant and have no understanding of your wrong doings.
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That post was funny.
yeah hahaha :cool:
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 09:10:12 pm
Then you can be banned here for the same.No, that is an invitation for Team DM.
You gandalf tell me how would you RP in this situation and why you call that DM?
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 09:16:23 pm
Several people from the administration team have replied to your topic. Yet you refuse to understand and acknowledge our words and guidelines. How do you think you will stay away from administrative punishments if you shuffle away our comments and attempts to help you? Realise what you can improve and you will be a better player.
Lets say new player become a mafia member and enemies of this mafia come and kills all the members of his mafia and he stays alive, now he want to revenge what he will do? he's a new player you said on the rules "Don't kill anyone without RP reason" here he got RP reason that's what he will understand that if he have RP reason he is allowed to kill but it's false he have to RP you didn't explained that nor explained the RP.
I'm your wiki editor and I read every page in the wiki.
In the RP page you explained the RP like "/me opens the door" "/me looking at the sky" etc, also explained the "/em" did you explained how to make full RP? no? so he will think by having RP reason and by typing "/me takes out combat shotgun" he done full fair RP, and now what? admins punish him.
What do you want from me if you didn't explained that having RP reason and using "/me" or calling the victim doesn't enough?! EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE WIKI!
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how would you RP in this situation and why you call that DM?
RP what? receiving a call from a stranger?
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 09:16:23 pm
Lets say new player become a mafia member and enemies of this mafia come and kills all the members of his mafia and he stays alive, now he want to revenge what he will do? he's a new player you said on the rules "Don't kill anyone without RP reason" here he got RP reason that's what he will understand that if he have RP reason he is allowed to kill but it's false he have to RP you didn't explained that nor explained the RP.
I'm your wiki editor and I read every page in the wiki.
In the RP page you explained the RP like "/me opens the door" "/me looking at the sky" etc, also explained the "/em" did you explained how to make full RP? no? so he will think by having RP reason and by typing "/me takes out combat shotgun" he done full fair RP, and now what? admins punish him.
What do you want from me if you didn't explained that having RP reason and using "/me" or calling the victim doesn't enough?! EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE WIKI!
First of all, as a new player there would not be a lot of chances to join the mafia.
But ok suppose I am the only one left. It would mean that I would not get a lod of guns and shoot, as that would just kill me. Now lets suppose I want a vendetta.
What I would try is to get a sniper gun. Then call the had of the other mafia and tell he forgot someone, and it will cost him. Of course after that run to the desert and see if they come after me.
If not, then its time to find the members of the mafia. Check out where they are and put myself in a strategic position. Follow one who separates so he is alone. Get his phone number.
When he is alone and I have a clear shot, call him. Tell him that he has just a few seconds to live, unless he will join my quest. If he refuses, tell him when he gets to hell, greet my old mates.
Then... BOOM.
Repeat this one or two times, until they are coming after me. Lead them to the desert, where I have advantage by a high point, with an escape route. If the boss is not present, use the escape and go over to the boss. Tell him he knows it would cost him, kill. After that probably the rest are catching up, so go out in a blaze of gunfire, or if they prefer to torture me to death let that happen.
It would take a lot more time, and be more entertaining while it does not exclude several fights.
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Realise that you can roleplay without guns and firepower and I will be happy.
You did not even made a conversation. You announced Malik_Capoliano will get killed since he attacked the Soprano's, but you never invited him to the roleplay.
Roleplay is made by individuals, not an individual.
What Gandalf wrote is strategic and more thinking. Creativity is it called!
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that's what I meant
....That's what I actually meant. You just tried to pull my words out of context and ask me to refrain the topic in revenge/in spite of me doing the same to you when It was pretty valid. What, you already hate me so much?
Post Merge: August 08, 2012, 10:33:15 pm
You are definitely right, if you are talking about "LS-RP" you can ban me there for this kind of RP!
What's with people trying to spread absolute bullshit by not reading properly?
On LS-RP you get actually bigger penalties and circumstances if you die or get killed, therefore everything there is done more correctly and professionally, since the penalties and not just "Encouragement" of Roleplay, as you see on ArgonathRPG, but strict "Enforcement" of roleplay.
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RP what? receiving a call from a stranger?
First of all, as a new player there would not be a lot of chances to join the mafia.
But ok suppose I am the only one left. It would mean that I would not get a lod of guns and shoot, as that would just kill me. Now lets suppose I want a vendetta.
What I would try is to get a sniper gun. Then call the had of the other mafia and tell he forgot someone, and it will cost him. Of course after that run to the desert and see if they come after me.
If not, then its time to find the members of the mafia. Check out where they are and put myself in a strategic position. Follow one who separates so he is alone. Get his phone number.
When he is alone and I have a clear shot, call him. Tell him that he has just a few seconds to live, unless he will join my quest. If he refuses, tell him when he gets to hell, greet my old mates.
Then... BOOM.
Repeat this one or two times, until they are coming after me. Lead them to the desert, where I have advantage by a high point, with an escape route. If the boss is not present, use the escape and go over to the boss. Tell him he knows it would cost him, kill. After that probably the rest are catching up, so go out in a blaze of gunfire, or if they prefer to torture me to death let that happen.
It would take a lot more time, and be more entertaining while it does not exclude several fights.
The only thing I can say is Wow!
Actually you make me think a little bit about focusing on RPing not on how would I kill the victim.
But still, not everyone can RP the same rank you does, he should start working on himself.
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I think the defect on you, how hard it's to understand that I wanted to kill a player for two reasons, two=2 and these two reasons is provoking and attacking sopranos. OH god now you come again and tell me shoot people randomly with sniper!!?
Secondly yes we do use facts from real life, but not always.
The two reasons are just provoking and attacking as in attacking with words? Dude, under no offenses you need to grow up, that's what I was told when I was 15 as well. Seriously, you talk of real life matters here, tell me, if someone provokes you or calls you a bad girl IRL would you go and kill him?? I wouldn't do that, sometimes you have to man up and answer them verbally, or with your actions. Playing Yo momma is always better than playing I'll kill yo momma.
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Am i the only one that doesnt see any rulebreak in this? I mean, the attacked a person from his family, i think that's enough of a RP reason to attack back..
Like Panda used to say, mafia should never be punished for killings, because.. crime families kill even for a smallest and nonunderstanbable reason.
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I didn't read the whole posts, but I just read Franswa complaint, and I can see it's clearly attempt to DMing. How ? Simple, why to kill him ? You're rambo ? So if someone calls you "girl" you preparing him for death ? Why to kill him, can't you threat him RPly ? Why even using guns ? You can threat him without guns, just few more friends with you. Take the point of RP, you're 1 year here (as you said) and you still didn't get the meaning of RP, it's not calling someone on phone asking for money, threat him that you'll kill him and rest shit and if she ignores/refuses you, you're going to kill him and you calling that RP ? I can talk more about this but I must go outside, since I don't have time right now.
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Like Panda used to say, mafia should never be punished for killings, because.. crime families kill even for a smallest and nonunderstanbable reason.
So basically I can create a mafia family and avoid being punished for deathmatching since I am roleplaying a mafia mobster? Do you even realise how ridicolus that sounds?!
Every player are equal and every player must obey the same rules. You do not get any extra privilieges because you are part of a mafia family. You must have a proper roleplay reason and you must roleplay properly, just like everyone else.
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The two reasons are just provoking and attacking as in attacking with words? Dude, under no offenses you need to grow up, that's what I was told when I was 15 as well. Seriously, you talk of real life matters here, tell me, if someone provokes you or calls you a bad girl IRL would you go and kill him?? I wouldn't do that, sometimes you have to man up and answer them verbally, or with your actions. Playing Yo momma is always better than playing I'll kill yo momma.
I'm grown up enough and you aren't the one who will tell me to grow up.
If someone called me girl I wont kill him, but if he attacked or killed one of my family definitely he's died!
Post Merge: August 09, 2012, 04:11:23 pm
Like Panda used to say, mafia should never be punished for killings, because.. crime families kill even for a smallest and nonunderstanbable reason.
And that's what RP means.
Post Merge: August 09, 2012, 04:13:39 pm
I didn't read the whole posts, but I just read Franswa complaint, and I can see it's clearly attempt to DMing. How ? Simple, why to kill him ? You're rambo ? So if someone calls you "girl" you preparing him for death ? Why to kill him, can't you threat him RPly ? Why even using guns ? You can threat him without guns, just few more friends with you. Take the point of RP, you're 1 year here (as you said) and you still didn't get the meaning of RP, it's not calling someone on phone asking for money, threat him that you'll kill him and rest shit and if she ignores/refuses you, you're going to kill him and you calling that RP ? I can talk more about this but I must go outside, since I don't have time right now.
I can't even continue reading, you are the 20th one who doesn't understand that I didn't killed him for calling me girl only, seems like you can't understand, only understands what you wants from the story.
Go up and read some replies by me.
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Like Panda used to say, mafia should never be punished for killings, because.. crime families kill even for a smallest and nonunderstanbable reason.
That is a very popular misconception.
Perhaps in Mexico life it worth so little that people kill for having a bad mood.
But in most countries crime families value their life and freedom as much as anyone else.
When you roleplay, it means that you should value your life as you would normally, and not just your own but also the life of all others.
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Doesn't matters, "Get ready to death" "Girl? ok be ready to death for this word" I do not count this as RP, you can't kill someone for calling you girl neither for ignoring you.
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If someone calls you a girl, and it gets you so irritated to kill him, then I am sorry but you're not going to succeed in life. Obviously instead of telling him that he was going to die for a stupid reason really..you should have kidnapped him and castrate him..see who's the girl then.
Like Panda used to say, mafia should never be punished for killings, because.. crime families kill even for a smallest and nonunderstanbable reason.
Yes but authorities will investigate. And if the person belongs to a mafia is found guilty, then all should be brought to court, all assets seized and closure of the mafia, rite?
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Like Panda used to say, mafia should never be punished for killings, because.. crime families kill even for a smallest and nonunderstanbable reason.
I never said mafias should *never* be punished for killings. That's an absurd proposition. However if you're at war with another mafia, then frankly that's completely fair game.
In fact as long as you're out of sight of other players and nobody makes a report of deathmatching then it shouldn't even be looked at.
Now if you are at war with a mafia, and you kill them and then they report you, then they're frankly just little bitches and you should begin the process of systematically ignoring them (i.e. drop enemy status and completely ignore their existence until they die out).