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Title: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Exterminator on September 11, 2012, 03:22:06 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19554551 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19554551)

Seriously, theres a limit for everything...Torturing your very own civilians because he helped catch terrorists, while at the same time saying that you are making moves against terrorism. Cant even imagine what sort of horror the Pakistani civilians in the more dangerous regions have to endure...Forced to be harassed, and threatened by your own army to keep your mouth shut.


Dr Afridi was arrested at a checkpoint at Hayatabad on 22 May last year, 20 days after Bin Laden's death.

After this he says he was blindfolded for eight months and handcuffed for a year in a prison beneath the ISI headquarters in Islamabad.

"I had to bend down on my knees to eat with only my mouth, like a dog," he said.

During interrogations he was tortured with cigarette burns and electric shocks, he said, as the ISI rebuked him for helping the US find Bin Laden.

"They said: 'The Americans are our worst enemies, worse than the Indians,'" he added.

Dr Afridi also said fellow inmates had told him that they had been advised to make things up to prevent interrogation by visiting CIA officers.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 11, 2012, 03:26:16 pm
And a much greater enemy are the hypocrites. Practicing the atrocities of the west and opposing them at the same time.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 03:28:35 pm
All I could say; long live Islam.

This man did a great job though.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Jellyfish on September 11, 2012, 03:42:41 pm
All I could say; long live Islam.

This man did a great job though.

implying that the terrorists are actual muslims.



This shit happens everywhere, it's only in Pakistan the media gets to find out about it.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: saberman on September 11, 2012, 03:50:26 pm
Law enforcement here is not the best.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 03:56:50 pm
implying that the terrorists are actual muslims.

Quote from: Wikipedia
al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 11, 2012, 04:56:42 pm
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al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden.

I will go straight forward here, since you show a potential of researching, may you tell us about how Islam welcomes killing and terrorism when it strongly opposes it? If a person does these type of actions, he/she couldn't be called a Muslim.

Go.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 05:22:01 pm
I will go straight forward here, since you show a potential of researching, may you tell us about how Islam welcomes killing and terrorism when it strongly opposes it? If a person does these type of actions, he/she couldn't be called a Muslim.

Go.

I don't need to research for that. It seems he doesn't understand how al-Qaeda works and who they are.

To answer your question; simple, Jihad.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Doctor on September 11, 2012, 05:24:13 pm
11111111111111111
I am a Pakistani man.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Dolfagr on September 11, 2012, 06:36:35 pm
I don't need to research for that. It seems he doesn't understand how al-Qaeda works and who they are.

To answer your question; simple, Jihad.

Jihad = Catholics Crusade, plus Nazi Empire was worse than terrorists and was chiristianic  :m4: :m4: :m4: :sig: :sig: :sig:
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor \"Tortured like a dog\"
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on September 11, 2012, 06:45:16 pm
The USA funded the Taliban.

The Taliban is considered a state funded terrorist organization by many (the state being the US of A), the Pakistanis knew that this situation was very sensitive and did not mind the USA tasting a bit of their mistake, they where not involved in 9/11 (the pakistanis) but the USA is considered a major Enemy of Pakistani Intelligence Services, as-well as the state and its people.  Why would the Pakistanis help their enemies - the same people who have committed war crimes on them. They are obviously upset about this whole situation.

If the USA had considered Pakistan an ally it would have informed their President at-least.


Please don't get this whole Jihad / Crusade / Nazi crap - it's purely political and personal issue.

Heard of that saying? "My enemy's enemy is my friend."

Post Merge: September 11, 2012, 06:47:27 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19554551 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19554551)

Seriously, theres a limit for everything...Torturing your very own civilians because he helped catch terrorists, while at the same time saying that you are making moves against terrorism. Cant even imagine what sort of horror the Pakistani civilians in the more dangerous regions have to endure...Forced to be harassed, and threatened by your own army to keep your mouth shut.


Dr Afridi was arrested at a checkpoint at Hayatabad on 22 May last year, 20 days after Bin Laden's death.

After this he says he was blindfolded for eight months and handcuffed for a year in a prison beneath the ISI headquarters in Islamabad.

"I had to bend down on my knees to eat with only my mouth, like a dog," he said.

During interrogations he was tortured with cigarette burns and electric shocks, he said, as the ISI rebuked him for helping the US find Bin Laden.

"They said: 'The Americans are our worst enemies, worse than the Indians,'" he added.

Dr Afridi also said fellow inmates had told him that they had been advised to make things up to prevent interrogation by visiting CIA officers.
Very crude understanding of the reality.

The USA has more in common with states such as N.Korea then any other country in the world.
Civilians of the USA have continuously said they have been subjected to torture.

Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 11, 2012, 08:19:45 pm
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I don't need to research for that. It seems he doesn't understand how al-Qaeda works and who they are.

To answer your question; simple, Jihad.

Yes, Holy war on self defense is terrorism `.`, are you also telling me that Jihad gives permission to murders and destruction? Clearly you need to research more.

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Jihad = Catholics Crusade

Similar and no.

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The Taliban is considered a state funded terrorist organization by many (the state being the US of A), the Pakistanis knew that this situation was very sensitive and did not mind the USA tasting a bit of their mistake, they where not involved in 9/11 (the pakistanis) but the USA is considered a major Enemy of Pakistani Intelligence Services, as-well as the state and its people.  Why would the Pakistanis help their enemies - the same people who have committed war crimes on them. They are obviously upset about this whole situation.

If the USA had considered Pakistan an ally it would have informed their President at-least.

Sir, if you don't open our NATO trade route line, we will bomb your people houses with our high tech flying machines.

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Please don't get this whole Jihad / Crusade / Nazi crap - it's purely political and personal issue.

(http://i.imgur.com/LkoUo.gif)
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Salmonella on September 11, 2012, 08:33:29 pm
11111111111111111
I am a Pakistani man.

Hmm, how is that important?



It is sickening to see stuff like this, on such an extent, is still occuring. It just goes to show that there is a great lack of organization in Pakistan, which sadly is caused by the government itself, for a big part. I don't believe there is any room for change within the next thirty years. Progression is slow... too slow.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 10:08:55 pm
Yes, Holy war on self defense is terrorism `.`, are you also telling me that Jihad gives permission to murders and destruction? Clearly you need to research more.


Not really. I readed the Quran.

Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Alan.Wake on September 11, 2012, 10:43:26 pm
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Not really. I readed the Quran.

Yea.... won't even bother with you now.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Ehks on September 11, 2012, 10:57:36 pm
Not really. I readed the Quran.

You obviously need some reading lessons, or simply your Arabic sucks since you misunderstand the whole Quran.

Moreover You're an American ( English is your main language ) therefore you should know that "readed" does not exist, the past form of "read" is also "read" ( pronounced red ). Lets add some English lessons next to the Arabic lessons as well.



Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 11:15:34 pm
You obviously need some reading lessons, or simply your Arabic sucks since you misunderstand the whole Quran.

Moreover You're an American ( English is your main language ) therefore you should know that "readed" does not exist, the past form of "read" is also "read" ( pronounced red ). Lets add some English lessons next to the Arabic lessons as well.



Actually, it is commonly used.

I clearly made a point, Mr. Speechless.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Ehks on September 11, 2012, 11:30:03 pm
Actually, it is commonly used.

I clearly made a point, Mr. Speechless.

Made a point... Hmm Of course you did when calling every muslim a terrorist, I'll keep the "point" for myself.

Also please you're not even close to funny:

Yes, Holy war on self defense is terrorism `.`, are you also telling me that Jihad gives permission to murders and destruction? Clearly you need to research more.

Not really. I readed the Quran.

However if one day you change your mind, do learn Arabic because it's the only way to understand the Quran. You clearly missunderstand everything about it.

Mr.Speechless? My new nickname? How thoughtful, thanks.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Salmonella on September 11, 2012, 11:34:40 pm
Actually, it is commonly used.

I clearly made a point, Mr. Speechless.

What is commonly used? I have trouble understanding your posts in this section. Were you talking about ''readed''? ''Readed'' is not commonly used and is a beginner's mistake in the English language. The past simple is ''read''.

There's no need to provoke everyone and act like a dick with your narrowminded interpretations of both the Islam and the Quran, to those who disagree with your extremistic thoughts. Everyone has his own opinion, and you should learn to accept that without trying to shove yours down other people's throats. You don't even have to respect their opinions, all you need to do is accept them and get on with your life.

You didn't make any point, you just made a few empty statements and accusations, with some provocative shit surrounding them.

Moreover You're an American

He's a German.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 11:35:00 pm
Made a point... Hmm Of course you did when calling every muslim a terrorist, I'll keep the "point" for myself.

Also please you're not even close to funny:

However if one day you change your mind, do learn Arabic because it's the only way to understand the Quran. You clearly missunderstand everything about it.

Mr.Speechless? My new nickname? How thoughtful, thanks.

It seems like you're irritated and Muslim.
Could you quote the post of me saying that all Muslims are terrorists?

Should we go together?
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Ehks on September 11, 2012, 11:46:08 pm
It seems like you're irritated and Muslim.
Could you quote the post of me saying that all Muslims are terrorists?

Should we go together?

If you re-read your own comments, you somehow did in an in-direct way. If you did not wish to deliver such a message, I apologize.
Nop I'm not irritated at all mate (: can you quote the post where it shows I am? Sorry if it lacks smileys, I tend to be serious about such discussions (: .
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Sweeper on September 11, 2012, 11:50:59 pm
If you re-read your own comments, you somehow did in an in-direct way. If you did not wish to deliver such a message, I apologize.
Nop I'm not irritated at all mate (: can you quote the post where it shows I am? Sorry if it lacks smileys, I tend to be serious about such discussions (: .

Just thinking because of the way you reacted.
Title: Re: Pakistani doctor "Tortured like a dog"
Post by: Jellyfish on September 12, 2012, 02:48:13 am
Not really. I readed the Quran.

It's hard to take you seriously if this is what your posts are like.



Jihad does not involve the killing of the innocents, the Quran does not even allow you to make a large scale attack at night during war, but unless the innocents are evacuated, you cannot do anything, in fact you cannot even harm a hair on a child or woman's head. Now, blowing up mosques in not Jihad, blowing up army cantonments is not Jihad, blowing up Times Square with the people over there is not Jihad, these people are no muslims, have they ever blown up a brothel? Have they ever blown up some of the illegal drug factories that operate? No, they blow up places with lots of innocent people. In my opinion, calling yourself an 'Islamist' organisation and actually being an 'Islamist' organisation has a lot of difference, this particular post was just to clear that up, and perhaps shed some light of your obvious ignorance regarding such matters.



Now, back on topic. It's a shame such a high level organisation just let a security risk run off to the media, ain't it?
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