Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: JAMEZZZ on December 30, 2012, 01:48:10 am
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Every single day when i go look in the VC-MP server browser, the server always comes up as 9999 ping and i cant join. plus the players is 0.
can someone tell me why this happening and is it just me or the server?!?!?!
i really want to play :( :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Server is down due to attacks towards Argonath. When will it be up? Nobody knows, but we're doing our best to get the server up and running as soon as possible :)
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Server is down due to attacks towards Argonath. When will it be up? Nobody knows, but we're doing our best to get the server up and running as soon as possible :)
Attacks? :conf:
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Attacks? :conf:
A minor, annoying incident which will not be granted attention has been DDoS'ing Argo from time to time out of rage because he keeps getting caught ban-evading. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Our community has dealt with much more worse before and kept going strong. ;)
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Hopefully this will stop cuz i wanna kill marcell BADLLY :war:
and to loot his dead body :D :money: :D
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Hopefully this will stop cuz i wanna kill marcell BADLLY :war:
and to loot his dead body :D :money: :D
This is not a deathmatch or greed community, so I would suggest you check the rules before doing that. ;)
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check the events dude... then you will know
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I wish you goodluck, you can make a wish at new years fire works :D
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what do you mean, r u saying that i will lose?
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No of course not :roll:
You might need some :help: tho' :lol:
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i see where your going ;)
Post Merge: December 30, 2012, 11:26:17 pm
*Calling klaus as back up just-in-case of emergency*
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dude wtf is wrong with you?
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you want me to post that meme again?
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From what I know, this ain't a meme site.
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Calm down now boys and girls. There's no reason to fight. Argo is here to have fun in. :)
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check the events dude... then you will know
Well after all, calling it an event doesn't change what it is.
I think that has already been noted elsewhere. :)
Before the topic becomes too waylaid you can check in here (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=56.0) to get information and report details regarding server downtime.
Most of the time minor crashes and brief periods of downtime are accounted for quickly and it is often useful to PM a Manager or Scripter.
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:conf: :conf: :wow: :wow: Hype is a girl?!?!?!?!!? :conf: :wow: :wow:
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Will you stop using so many spaces in your replies? Just type normally... Please
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sorry its a habit :razz:
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Do I look like a girl for you...?
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Is this starting to become a provocative war?
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Calm down now boys and girls.
who is the girl?
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who is the girl?
It's called a figure of speech. We do have female players in the community, so I'm not going to be sexist in my replies. If you're not a girl, simply ignore the "girls" part.
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i being sarcastic. i just only mean on this topic (IE the people who replied to this topic)
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i being sarcastic. i just only mean on this topic (IE the people who replied to this topic)
Why be sarcastic when my post had nothing to do with what you were joking about...
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this is getting awkward... :conf:
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this is getting awkward... :conf:
So let's get back on topic, if there's anything more to say. : D
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The server is down again? :neutral:
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There is a board for reporting downtimes. People will not be checking for these topics. Try posting here instead:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=56.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=56.0)
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There is a board for reporting downtimes. People will not be checking for these topics.
TBH I'm more likely to see this topic rather than a new one in the downtimes board. Anyway the server is up at the moment though there's been a lot of downtimes lately throughout Argo
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Hmm, noticed that aswell lately..
Thanks for the fast answers guys ;)
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TBH I'm more likely to see this topic rather than a new one in the downtimes board. Anyway the server is up at the moment though there's been a lot of downtimes lately throughout Argo
Maybe in your case since you check this board daily, but the other servers aren't always the case.
As for the downtimes, that should be resolved soon. The problem is being worked on.
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Maybe in your case since you check this board daily, but the other servers aren't always the case.
As for the downtimes, that should be resolved soon. The problem is being worked on.
These attacks on the vcmp server won't end anytime soon.
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These attacks on the vcmp server won't end anytime soon.
Yep, we're down again! :neutral:
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These attacks on the vcmp server won't end anytime soon.
It's not just the VC:MP server being attacked. All of the Argo servers are being attacked.
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It's not just the VC:MP server being attacked. All of the Argo servers are being attacked.
No shit sherlock.
Anyway vcmp gets way more attacked then samp.
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No shit sherlock.
If it's a no-**** answer, then why would you say I was wrong when I said that before? Keep the provoking out of here.
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If it's a no-**** answer, then why would you say I was wrong when I said that before? Keep the provoking out of here.
Did i say you were wrong? I don't think so, neither did i provoke anyone.
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this will end up as a :box: if this goes too far... (；一_一) fight fight fight fight!!!! ヽ(`ÃÂâ€Â´)ノ
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this will end up as a :box: if this goes too far... (；一_一) fight fight fight fight!!!! ヽ(`ÃÂâ€Â´)ノ
Don't encourage rulebreaking.
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sorry (´-_ã‚ÂÂ-`)
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Don't encourage rulebreaking.
He isn't encouraging any rulebreaking
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ヽ(`ÃÂâ€Â´)ノ
(；一_一)
(´-_ã‚ÂÂ-`)
Where dafuq do you find these? :eek:
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Where dafuq do you find these? :eek:
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He isn't encouraging any rulebreaking
He was saying "fight, fight, fight!". Please get back on topic.
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Im usin da freakin acer tablet
This shit:
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And also yo goddamn imagination ヽ(≧ÃÂâ€Â≦)ノ
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Post Merge: January 11, 2013, 10:04:05 pm
well? ＼(・o・)/!
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Please get back on topic.
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He was saying "fight, fight, fight!". Please get back on topic.
Everybody can see he ment that as a joke..
Stay decent man..
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Please get back on topic.
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Anyway vcmp gets way more attacked then samp.
Quite true, though there isn't any proof, it sure does look that way.
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Quite true, though there isn't any proof, it sure does look that way.
As Stormeus pointed out, the server restarts automatically if scripts fail. If it gets attacked, it will not. 90% of the time it does not restart itself, so either the auto-restart is bugged or server is attacked.
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i dont understand the meaning of "attacks" i mean why would a person just "attacks" a server. What i mean is "its just a game!!!" \(≧ÃÂâ€Â≦)/
probably the "attacker" is just a loner who doesn't have a life... (´-_ã‚ÂÂ-`)
Why is the "attacker" ruining our entertainment!!?? \( T0T)/
You "attacker" must be such a F***ed up guy...
yeah i mean it! <( '^´)>
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lol maybe one of your posts that make more sense, but less weird smileys and spaces please :rules:
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The problem is that the VC:MP server seems to 'hang' once it is attacked, where as the SA:MP server goes 'down'. The difference is that a server that 'hangs' is regarded as running, while one that is 'down' is restarted.
Another problem seems to be that the attack is using sending of invalid packets, something SA:MP has tackled a long time ago.
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The problem is that the VC:MP server seems to 'hang' once it is attacked, where as the SA:MP server goes 'down'. The difference is that a server that 'hangs' is regarded as running, while one that is 'down' is restarted.
Another problem seems to be that the attack is using sending of invalid packets, something SA:MP has tackled a long time ago.
Heard a long time ago (might be from aXXo, can't remember it correctly) that the scripts would change to squirell inplace of pawn scripting in a "sooner" update though it never happend same goes for v2.0. If the scripts would change to squirell then all these attacks would never be happening again on vcmp.
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Another problem seems to be that the attack is using sending of invalid packets, something SA:MP has tackled a long time ago.
Ye this is a problem, though some have said that a new script in Squirrell instead of the outdated PAWN could improve things for us.
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Sucks to hear that..
And I suppose there also can't be made a temporary server, like they did in SA:MP? :neutral:
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Ye this is a problem, though some have said that a new script in Squirrell instead of the outdated PAWN could improve things for us.
I'm not sure if it's the language, or just the newer-coded server, or both...but from rumors I've heard, it's also a bit more efficient than the old PAWN server was too.
Either way, when 0.4 is released, things should be a bit better, as well. A brand new codebase tends to be tougher to find exploits in, and it's a nice change to render the old ones useless. With VC:MP RS2 also on the horizon for the Squirrel-based 0.3zr2 server, it will be a good test to see the resilience.
Sucks to hear that..
And I suppose there also can't be made a temporary server, like they did in SA:MP? :neutral:
That would be up to the Server Owners, however it may not always help. Since SA:MP is always so commonly attacked, my suggestion is to get it on a different IP than the other servers like before, but that costs money and requires another computer altogether to also avoid the DDoS crashes.
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I'm not sure if it's the language, or just the newer-coded server, or both...but from rumors I've heard, it's also a bit more efficient than the old PAWN server was too.
Either way, when 0.4 is released, things should be a bit better, as well.
0.4 won't be coming anytime soon i doubt if it will be done this year.
About the scripts a fact is if it is a squirell based script DDoS attacks would be useless against it.
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0.4 won't be coming anytime soon i doubt if it will be done this year.
About the scripts if it is a squirell based script DDoS attacks would be useless against it.
I agree that VC:MP 0.4 is taking a long time given that Maxorator is doing it on his own, but we can't judge a release date because we don't know how far he is, and the year just started. :)
As for Squirrel, that doesn't make DDoS'es useless against it. The server itself is the one that lags until the crash. What we meant is that using the newer-version server with a more efficient language for said purposes would help keep it from hanging like it does when SA:MP is directly attacked, and the entire computer system lags. If someone attacks the server directly, it's going to go down no matter what version, language, or security software it's running.
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I agree that VC:MP 0.4 is taking a long time given that Maxorator is doing it on his own, but we can't judge a release date because we don't know how far he is, and the year just started. :)
As for Squirrel, that doesn't make DDoS'es useless against it. The server itself is the one that lags until the crash. What we meant is that using the newer-version server with a more efficient language for said purposes would help keep it from hanging like it does when SA:MP is directly attacked, and the entire computer system lags. If someone attacks the server directly, it's going to go down no matter what version, language, or security software it's running.
I have seen plenty of attempts to DDoS squirell servers in vcmp wich all didn't had any effect on them.
A way to take down those servers is by going after the script but that requires more work.
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I have seen plenty of attempts to DDoS squirell servers in vcmp wich all didn't had any effect on them.
A way to take down those servers is by going after the script but that requires more work.
Then those were not DDoS attacks. DDoS attacks cannot be stopped without incredibly expensive hardware and software, and even then they can have an effect on stuff. VC:MP does not contain any of that software.
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Brian is talking about oopscrashers used on servers which is common by gypsys; It can be classed as a DDoS attack. But yeah what Brian is saying is that the programs do not work as well on Squirrell-based servers. Its an improvement in security compared to the current PAWN-based scripts that we have however it's not a certain block Brian.
I agree that VC:MP 0.4 is taking a long time given that Maxorator is doing it on his own, but we can't judge a release date because we don't know how far he is, and the year just started.
We can judge based on what we've seen and continue to hear.. 0.4 is a long shot away.
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Brian is talking about oopscrashers used on servers which is common by gypsys; It can be classed as a DDoS attack. But yeah what Brian is saying is that the programs do not work as well on Squirrell-based servers. Its an improvement in security compared to the current PAWN-based scripts that we have however it's not a certain block Brian.
We can judge based on what we've seen and continue to hear.. 0.4 is a long shot away.
DDoS = Distributed Denial of Services (http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/distributed-denial-of-service-attack)
What happens is not DDoS but DoS, also, the host can solve the problem w/ a good firewall.
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DDoS = Distributed Denial of Services (http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/distributed-denial-of-service-attack)
What happens is not DDoS but DoS, also, the host can solve the problem w/ a good firewall.
Exactly. DDoS attacks are much larger, which makes it very difficult to stop.
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So all you guys are saying is that there is no one that could stop this and once it happens, it always happens?
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<Edited out. Forum replied to the wrong topic.>
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I succesufully entered the server yesterday for 3 times. It had some crashes, but just a few minutes. Now the server is still crashed :(
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TBS members were attacking it yesterday, specifically when they got banned aswell.
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As if in-direct attacks that took the server down wasn't enough :mad:
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Yes, so annoyed because the server is always down! Damn all of you hackers. You are just some losers !!! LOSERS
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If the attackers are using the same clan tags, I would recommend adding a tagban on them.
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If the attackers are using the same clan tags, I would recommend adding a tagban on them.
Good idea, but maybe they are smart enough to change their names everytime. So they change their names looking like newbies names. For example: Badescu_Andrei (it is a clearly a RP name so you think that player is innocent, well that could be FAKE ! )
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Good idea, but maybe they are smart enough to change their names everytime. So they change their names looking like newbies names. For example: Badescu_Andrei (it is a clearly a RP name so you think that player is innocent, well that could be FAKE ! )
Then you start banning them like any other evader. The tagban would slow them down, though. :)
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Many other server in VCMP has added that "tagban" on TBS members, but that doesn't do shit against them due to them changing subnets like socks.
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due to them changing subnets like socks.
lol that is so true
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Then you have to continue your fight. ;)
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Many other server in VCMP has added that "tagban" on TBS members, but that doesn't do shit against them due to them changing subnets like socks.
Clanban's don't work that way lol; since obviously the server doesn't know the IP address of every member of a clan. It works in the way that it automatically bans anyone who enters the server with "[tbs]" or whatever their clantag is in their name. Basically a lot like the current script we have that autokicks players with "f**k" in their name.
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Clanban's don't work that way lol; since obviously the server doesn't know the IP address of every member of a clan. It works in the way that it automatically bans anyone who enters the server with "[tbs]" or whatever their clantag is in their name. Basically a lot like the current script we have that autokicks players with "f**k" in their name.
Exactly what I mean, but I also meant they can just simply change their subnet, change their name and enter the server again.
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It still prevents them from leaving their mark on our server and forces them to hide behind alias's.
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True, it would be for the best to have the ban-on-name for every TBS. / [TBS] / (TBS) :D
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So all you guys are saying is that there is no one that could stop this and once it happens, it always happens?
the host can solve the problem w/ a good firewall.
some firewalls can modify packet pressure to avoid crashing a server. ( I know a host which has <3 )
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The server is down, again..
Jeez, don't these hackers have anything else to do in their lives? :trust:
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some firewalls can modify packet pressure to avoid crashing a server. ( I know a host which has <3 )
Well maybe you could share such information so that we can also avoid such crashes.
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It still prevents them from leaving their mark on our server and forces them to hide behind alias's.
Exactly what I mean. If you can at least stop them from entering under one method, then you are only left with another to fight off, rather than both. It limits their options and makes it harder to evade. :)
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Exactly what I mean. If you can at least stop them from entering under one method, then you are only left with another to fight off, rather than both. It limits their options and makes it harder to evade. :)
Something really usefull as we pretty much know alot of their subnets you can just ban those and sooner or later they will run out of them.
some firewalls can modify packet pressure to avoid crashing a server. ( I know a host which has <3 )
Let me guess, the host where the populair servers are on?
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Something really usefull as we pretty much know alot of their subnets you can just ban those and sooner or later they will run out of them.
Agreed. In fact, if this is such an issue where they are crashing the servers, I'd say they are eligible for a Community Ban. If you want to Klaus, we could gather up the known information in the Management boards and organize it so it's easier to block the dummies. :)
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some firewalls can modify packet pressure to avoid crashing a server. ( I know a host which has <3 )
If VC:MP devs would care it would solve it for all.
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If VC:MP devs would care it would solve it for all.
Unfortunately all of the Developers for VC:MP have disappeared minus Maxorator, and he doesn't have the released source to 0.3zr2. He has a few outdated ones, but those are even worse, and are completely useless to solving the issues at hand, hence why he is rewriting 0.4 from scratch.
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Unfortunately all of the Developers for VC:MP have disappeared minus Maxorator, and he doesn't have the released source to 0.3zr2. He has a few outdated ones, but those are even worse, and are completely useless to solving the issues at hand, hence why he is rewriting 0.4 from scratch.
I wish somebody could help him out or atleast make a new dev team to speed it up.
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I wish somebody could help him out or atleast make a new dev team to speed it up.
People have offered, but because he's in college at the same time, it makes it difficult to do. What makes it worse is that VC:MP is also closed-source, so he would have to find someone both very trustworthy and highly-skilled to work on it, which is very hard to come by these days.
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I just dont get why these dumb asses just keep attacking the server and ruining our fun time...
(ââ€Â¯_ââ€Â¯)
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I just dont get why these dumb asses just keep attacking the server and ruining our fun time...
(ââ€Â¯_ââ€Â¯)
They want attention, and posting things like that gives it to them. What really needs to be done is an all-out fight at stopping them without telling the whole world that someone is trying. Then they don't get what they want, and still get punished for trying. :)
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well this means i goto do somthin else.....
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People have offered, but because he's in college at the same time, it makes it difficult to do. What makes it worse is that VC:MP is also closed-source, so he would have to find someone both very trustworthy and highly-skilled to work on it, which is very hard to come by these days.
Like many have said before Stormeus is qualified for that.
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Like many have said before Stormeus is qualified.
Qualified for what?
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Server is down due to attacks towards Argonath. When will it be up? Nobody knows, but we're doing our best to get the server up and running as soon as possible :)
so this means SAMP is also down right ?
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Qualified for what?
He fits for it.
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so this means SAMP is also down right ?
Depends on the attack. SA:MP isn't down right now, though.
He fits for it.
Fit for what, though? I didn't say anything about a person being in positions to do anything. :S
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I mean that he is trustworthy and good enough to help maxorator around.
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I mean that he is trustworthy and good enough to help maxorator around.
He's a Tester for VC:MP 0.4 already. :)
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He's a Tester for VC:MP 0.4 already.
If he has the time and skills, there's no reason why Storm couldn't be promoted to developer. Also, why not people like Vrocker be given a chance, who has shown his ability with the development of LU and other unofficial VCMP languages.
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[noae]
If he has the time and skills, there's no reason why Storm couldn't be promoted to developer. Also, why not people like Vrocker be given a chance, who has shown his ability with the development of LU and other unofficial VCMP languages.
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Storm isn't active enough himself, which I think is one of the big reasons behind that. As for VRocker, I know there has been some collaboration between the LU and VC:MP dev teams, but because of both Maxorator and VRocker being very busy lately, not much has happened in that respect.
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The server is now online. It isn't crashed anymore. Anyone enter it please. And for godness SAKE it is finally online! :D
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I guess a C++ external module could be done for Squirrel ( if we ever move on it ) which would call a C++ function from the script to restart the server whenever the script is unloaded ( onScriptUnload ). This should be easy fo' stormeus :)
I can do it myself too
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I guess a C++ external module could be done for Squirrel ( if we ever move on it ) which would call a C++ function from the script to restart the server whenever the script is unloaded ( onScriptUnload ). This should be easy fo' stormeus :)
I can do it myself too
Didn't aXXo say that 2.0 would be scripted in Squirrel.
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Depends on the attack. SA:MP isn't down right now, though.Fit for what, though? I didn't say anything about a person being in positions to do anything. :S
give me the IP then becouse i only see the server down like 0/0 no ping no nothing
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give me the IP then becouse i only see the server down like 0/0 no ping no nothing
178.63.52.174:7777
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Didn't aXXo say that 2.0 would be scripted in Squirrel
aXXo scraped 2.0 and Storm is working on 2.1 which is in Squirrel.
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aXXo scraped 2.0 and Storm is working on 2.1 which is in Squirrel.
Awesome!
Lemme' guess... no release date yet? :neutral:
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How do these people even know how to crash a server?
Let me guess... the INTERNET
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How do these people even know how to crash a server?
Let me guess... the INTERNET
Some methods are more accessible than they should be, unfortunately.
Argonath keeps building on its security infrastructure, rest assured, and every year it grows that much stronger.
Anyway, server's running well right now so drop in. :D
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But probably 5 min. Later... BOOM server crashed and will be down again for more than 24 hours
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But probably 5 min. Later... BOOM server crashed and will be down again for more than 24 hours
Been going strong for a while.
I don't want to jinx anything but a friendly bunch of players and your favourite A-Team guys are chilling over there right now. :D
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Been going strong for a while.
I don't want to jinx anything but a friendly bunch of players and your favourite A-Team guys are chilling over there right now. :D
It's been up for atleast 2 hours already.
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Is marcell there?
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Is marcell there?
...... Get over that obsession already it were just some couple of dollars that he looted from you.
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I guess a C++ external module could be done for Squirrel ( if we ever move on it ) which would call a C++ function from the script to restart the server whenever the script is unloaded ( onScriptUnload ). This should be easy fo' stormeus :)
I can do it myself too
It isn't needed. There is already a Squirrel server version out there. VC:MP RS2.x is planned already to be on Squirrel. :)
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178.63.52.174:7777
thanks
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Awesome!
Lemme' guess... no release date yet? :neutral:
There is no known date for release, but we all hope it's going to be very soon :(
Post Merge: January 16, 2013, 12:19:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-zK1S5Dws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-zK1S5Dws)
Server's thoughts on this subject :D
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Post Merge: January 16, 2013, 12:19:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-zK1S5Dws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-zK1S5Dws)
Server's thoughts on this subject :D
Happend in the past and it always gets up again. Nothing different from now.
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It isn't needed. There is already a Squirrel server version out there. VC:MP RS2.x is planned already to be on Squirrel. :)
The problem is that the VC:MP server seems to 'hang' once it is attacked, where as the SA:MP server goes 'down'. The difference is that a server that 'hangs' is regarded as running, while one that is 'down' is restarted.
Another problem seems to be that the attack is using sending of invalid packets, something SA:MP has tackled a long time ago.
You should read other replies before posting.
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You should read other replies before posting.
You should do the same. Someone said making a brand new module for the PAWN server to make it run Squirrel code. As I said before, this is not needed because a Squirrel server already exists. What you quoted from Gandalf has nothing to do with my reply. In fact, if you go back to my replies, I even replied stating that the Squirrel version was made by VRocker, and thus is completely different code from the original PAWN server application.
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Quit argueing and come up with solutions to minimize the attacks.
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Quit argueing and come up with solutions to minimize the attacks.
There is really nothing you can do against DDoS attacks. Yes, better software can help aid in the recovery, but that is not something we have the luxury of, unfortunately. I do agree that ideas to help handle other server-related crashes would be a good idea, though.
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You should do the same. Someone said making a brand new module for the PAWN server to make it run Squirrel code. As I said before, this is not needed because a Squirrel server already exists. What you quoted from Gandalf has nothing to do with my reply. In fact, if you go back to my replies, I even replied stating that the Squirrel version was made by VRocker, and thus is completely different code from the original PAWN server application.
I guess a C++ external module could be done for Squirrel ( if we ever move on it ) which would call a C++ function from the script to restart the server whenever the script is unloaded ( onScriptUnload ). This should be easy fo' stormeus :)
I can do it myself too
Your understanding wasn't good. The module is meant to be done for SQUIRREL in the upcoming version to close the server and eventually restart it, not PAWN (that would be sick), which is clearly understandable. Also, this remains valid:
You should read other replies before posting.
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Stop kidding mates :D
Server needs :help: and fast, it's been :hit: for too long :cry:
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Your understanding wasn't good. The module is meant to be done for SQUIRREL in the upcoming version to close the server and eventually restart it, not PAWN (that would be sick), which is clearly understandable. Also, this remains valid:
1. There is already a Squirrel server for the current version.
2. There is already Squirrel support for 0.4.
3. That wouldn't be a module, it would be a script. That can be done as early as VC:MP RS2.x.
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1. There is already a Squirrel server for the current version.
2. There is already Squirrel support for 0.4.
3. That wouldn't be a module, it would be a script. That can be done as early as VC:MP RS2.x.
..... Quit argueing.
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..... Quit argueing.
I'm not arguing. I'm trying to tell you that you are suggesting something that is already possible and exists...