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Title: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Reece on January 16, 2013, 11:05:31 pm
Several Britons have been taken hostage - and one UK national killed - in a terrorist attack at a gas field in Algeria, according to Sky sources.

An Islamist militant group has claimed to have kidnapped up to 41 foreign nationals - including seven Americans and an Irishman - in a dawn raid on the gas facility part-operated by BP, Algerian state oil company Sonatrach, and Norway's Statoil in Algeria.

It claims to have repelled an attempt by Algerian soldiers to enter the facility, forcing them to retreat after an exchange of gunfire.

The group is said to be demanding French President Francois Hollande halts the operation against Islamist rebels in Mali.

It has also been reported that the group wants the release of 100 Islamists held in Algeria, in exchange for those being held at the gas field.

Three people have reportedly been killed in the attack at the plant situated in the east of the country near the Libyan border.

It follows a failed attempt earlier in the day when three vehicles carrying heavily armed men tried to ambush a bus carrying employees from the plant to a nearby airport.

The Algerian Interior Ministry said: "After their failed attempt, the terrorist group headed to the complex's living quarters and took a number of workers with foreign nationalities hostage.

"The forces of the People's National Army and security services arrived at the scene and immediately took all necessary measures to make the area secure and seek a rapid resolution of the situation, which is being very closely followed by the national authorities."

Algeria said it was not negotiating with the hostages.

Prime Minister David Cameron chaired a 45-minute meeting of the Government's crisis committee Cobra on the attack, attended by ministers from the Foreign Office and Ministry of Defence, as well as officials from other agencies.

His official spokesman said afterwards:  "The ongoing incident has involved various nationalities, including several British nationals.

"We are working with BP to support the families of staff and provide consular assistance."

Mr Cameron has also spoken to Algerian Prime Minister Abdelmalek Sellal, with both agreeing to keep in touch as the situation progresses.

Foreign Secretary William Hague described it as "an extremely dangerous situation".

He told Sky News: "We are liaising very closely at all levels with the Algerian government. I've just spoken to our ambassador in Algeria and sent a rapid deployment team from the Foreign Office in order to reinforce our embassy and consular staff there."

Downing Street said that it was "too early to speculate" on the motive.

BP is yet to comment on reports that Islamist militants, said to be connected to al Qaeda, had carried out the attack in revenge for the French military action in Mali.

The company said in a statement that the site was "attacked and occupied by a group of unidentified armed people," at around 5am UK time and that some personnel were believed to be "held by the occupiers".

It said it was seeking information as to whether any staff or contractors had been injured - and the identities and intentions of the people occupying the site -  adding that it was contacting relatives of workers on the site.

A Japanese company, JGC Corp, provides services for the facility as well.

In addition, French company CIS catering has said that 150 of its Algerian employees are also being held at the site.

The White House said it was "closely monitoring" the situation, while French President Francois Hollande said he was in "permanent contact" with the Algerian authorities.

Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs (DPA) confirmed a 36-year-old married man from Northern Ireland, travelling on an Irish passport, was among those taken.

It is understood that Japanese, Norwegian and French nationals, and a Canadian, are also part of the group.

Ireland's Deputy Prime Minister Eamon Gilmore called for the Irishman's immediate release.

He said: "The Government stands ready to use all the resources available to us to ensure that our citizen is released as soon as possible."

The country's Department of Foreign Affairs added it was providing consular assistance to the family and was in close contact with its international partners and a wide range of other contacts in order to establish the facts of the situation.

Militant group Katibat Moulathamine - "The Masked Ones -  led by Algerian national and former al Qaeda leader Mokhtar Belmokhtar, has reportedly claimed that one of its affiliates is responsible for the attack, and that five foreign nationals are being held in a factory on site, and 36 others in their living quarters.

The spokesman is said to have claimed the attack was carried out in retaliation for Algeria allowing France to use its airspace to carry out raids on northern Mali.

The development comes as EU foreign ministers are preparing to meet in Brussels on Thursday to discuss plans to send a 400-strong military training mission to Mali.

Europe Minister David Lidington said that Britain could make a "small contribution" to the mission but stressed that it would not be involved in combat operations.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 16, 2013, 11:06:55 pm
I sense some SAS domination coming their way.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Ness on January 17, 2013, 12:09:00 am
I sense some SAS domination coming their way.
yes legendary bear grylls training
they will drink their piss to victory
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: zhang on January 17, 2013, 12:09:45 am
Lol mate. Bear grylls is a laughing stock. Eating elephant poo? Ray mears is the real shit man
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 17, 2013, 12:14:47 am
yes legendary bear grylls training
they will drink their piss to victory
Mate, he could out-survive everyone in this community, if not the world..
The SAS will be forcing the kidnappers to drink their piss when they are done slaughtering them.

SAS sure are professional sheep seed swallowers. al queda would never stand against a tougher opponent
Are you and Ness some trolling team or something?
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Ness on January 17, 2013, 12:16:18 am
trolling team? are you offended your sissy task force was called out?
i can kill bear grylls faster than u come., by the way, how upset do the sheep get when u spray after a single lick? do u hve no fucking endurance?
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 17, 2013, 12:17:03 am
I'm going to stop replying/quoting you wee trolls now.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Ness on January 17, 2013, 12:17:29 am
see u later
sheepfucker
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Dolfagr on January 17, 2013, 03:08:41 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/algeria/9808174/Algeria-hostage-crisis-live.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/algeria/9808174/Algeria-hostage-crisis-live.html)

Update
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: McGarrett on January 17, 2013, 03:15:28 pm
Inb4 Navy SEALs, SAS and Marinejegerkommandoen is involved.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 17, 2013, 04:08:42 pm
BBC News said the Algerian Armed Forces have started an operation, but I doubt they will see any action, them super l33t DMers from the SAS will probibly be making a plan to go in John MacAleese style. :m4: :sig:
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Dolfagr on January 17, 2013, 04:13:56 pm
BBC News said the Algerian Armed Forces have started an operation, but I doubt they will see any action


They already killed 15 kidnappers (including the leader) and 35 hostages in an air strike. 45 hostages are presumed to have been rescued / escaped.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: ClazzyJogel on January 17, 2013, 04:34:00 pm
The news that 35 hostages are killed is not confirmed at all.
And yes I really hope they send it the Norwegian Special Forces to get the islamists raped, among those hostages are 15(?) norwegian workers.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Dolfagr on January 17, 2013, 04:46:31 pm
It will be over by tonight most likely, it seems the Algerian forces have started a ground attack.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 18, 2013, 12:10:34 am
The Algerian Armed Forces created an 'operation' in which they attacked the area that the kidnappers we at, multipul hostages were shot dead and Algeria have said they THINK the kidnappers have also been killed, the British government appears to be furious with Algeria for not even telling David Cameron before they went ahead with the assault, one government representative said on BBC News that Algeria should not have done it especially without telling the UK first, he also stated that the Algerian armed forces have a massive lack of experience in this area of operations and said they should have left it until the SAS arrived, which makes me assume the SAS were gathering and planning their own assault, in which case I believe all hostages would have survived, IMO Algeria just pulled a stunt to try and show off their military which cost the lives of innocent hostages.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: McGarrett on January 18, 2013, 01:18:06 am
When there were 41 hostages in total there were 9 norwegian among them. Now it is said that only 7 hostages are alive...
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 18, 2013, 01:39:12 am
When there were 41 hostages in total there were 9 norwegian among them. Now it is said that only 7 hostages are alive...
Out of all 41 hostages only 7 are alive? What the fuck Algeria! You should have left it to the SAS for fuck sake.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Batta on January 18, 2013, 04:43:59 pm
Algerinian forces... when I heard this I knew a massacre would have come out..

Couldn't they get their level is just too low for such an operation?
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 18, 2013, 07:36:02 pm
News Update: The Algerian forces didn't do good enough, they took out some terrorists (and hostages -.-) but the stand off is still on-going even after their operation, time for SAS? Havnt seen them being l33t in a while and the whole UK wants to. :D
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: ClazzyJogel on January 18, 2013, 11:08:58 pm
SAS? I think the norwegian FSK honestly could do a better job. They are more competence force with experience from afghanistan and so on.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 19, 2013, 12:08:19 am
SAS? I think the norwegian FSK honestly could do a better job. They are more competence force with experience from afghanistan and so on.
Oh you..! The SAS are in Afghanistan doing black ops taking out hundreds or terrorists each time, do you even know the SAS was the first 'special force' and invented nearly all modern tactics used in the battlefields of today? Nothing is better than the first and real thing. :D
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Dolfagr on January 19, 2013, 04:43:53 pm
There's no need to argue since Algeria will not allow either one of them in it's soil.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 19, 2013, 05:28:10 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21101092 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21101092)
It's over, Algeria's armed forces did shit by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Dolfagr on January 19, 2013, 06:41:52 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21101092 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21101092)
It's over, Algeria's armed forces did shit by the looks of it.

They tried to prove to the west that they do not need them to protect their own soil. (Algeria was a colony of France for many years). Egoism has prevailed and many innocent people died.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 19, 2013, 07:54:35 pm
They tried to prove to the west that they do not need them to protect their own soil. (Algeria was a colony of France for many years). Egoism has prevailed and many innocent people died.
True that, their big ego made innocent people earning an honest living die, they should have waited for the professionals to arrive, Algeria has extremely little experience in co-ordinated attacks.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: ClazzyJogel on January 19, 2013, 09:16:25 pm
Oh you..! The SAS are in Afghanistan doing black ops taking out hundreds or terrorists each time, do you even know the SAS was the first 'special force' and invented nearly all modern tactics used in the battlefields of today? Nothing is better than the first and real thing. :D

Haha, just had to say it :D
But yeah arguing whos got the best special swat force top cop is useless, they all train together on different events after what I know :)

Anyways, thanks to the natives army, 23 hostages are killed and executed by the islamists. 6 of them is most likely norwegians and rest is from europe I think.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: KelviNC on January 19, 2013, 09:17:24 pm
Haha, just had to say it :D
But yeah arguing whos got the best special swat force top cop is useless, they all train together on different events after what I know :)

Anyways, thanks to the natives army, 23 hostages are killed and executed by the islamists. 6 of them is most likely norwegians and rest is from europe I think.

+1 AnthraX
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 19, 2013, 09:54:51 pm
Anyways, thanks to the natives army, 23 hostages are killed and executed by the islamists. 6 of them is most likely norwegians and rest is from europe I think.
10 or more are thought to be British, some American, some others. :razz:
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Louis_Smith on January 20, 2013, 08:04:11 pm
What algerian army did is totally right, the terorists were trying to bomb the gas station.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Batta on January 20, 2013, 08:14:20 pm
What algerian army did is totally right, the terorists were trying to bomb the gas station.

Try to express your opinion in a more complete way please..
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 20, 2013, 09:16:01 pm
What algerian army did is totally right, the terorists were trying to bomb the gas station.
No they werent.. :lol:
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: ClazzyJogel on January 20, 2013, 09:31:47 pm
What algerian army did is totally right, the terorists were trying to bomb the gas station.

No, first of all they are not close to the experience that Navy seals, SAS or the norwegian FsK has to take an example.
They could have waited for these forces to arrive, in no time and the number of dead hostages would have been minimum.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 20, 2013, 11:49:17 pm
No, first of all they are not close to the experience that Navy seals, SAS or the norwegian FsK has to take an example.
They could have waited for these forces to arrive, in no time and the number of dead hostages would have been minimum.
I don't know about Norway or the US, but the British government constantly slipped up on BBC News that they were possibly planning to send the SAS.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Dolfagr on January 21, 2013, 12:46:18 am
Life moves on, what happened is now over and we only look forward. If we compare militaries over this subject, we'll end nowhere as everyone will try to highlight his country's army, and talking about groups who perform black ops which we know nothing about, not a good idea.
If all these innocent peopled dying was someone's fault - I am sure they will be punished at least.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Batta on January 21, 2013, 01:51:25 pm
I am sure they will be punished at least.

They will get medals for that. Cause that's a good thing in their point of view.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 21, 2013, 02:32:59 pm
They will get medals for that. Cause that's a good thing in their point of view.
Exactly, Algeria's government see's their little shitty operation as a success because they managed to kill a small bunch of terrorists, when infact it's anything but a success because they also managed to kill a bunch of innocent people.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Jellyfish on January 21, 2013, 02:35:18 pm
And your wonderful high-powered agencies would have that without any casualties? I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: ClazzyJogel on January 21, 2013, 03:08:03 pm
And your wonderful high-powered agencies would have that without any casualties? I find that hard to believe.

Without? No one knows.
Less? Yes, without any doubt these are the top forces in the world.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Mikal on January 21, 2013, 04:01:39 pm
And your wonderful high-powered agencies would have that without any casualties? I find that hard to believe.
Iranian Embassy Siege - Casualties = 0, all hostage takers dead. :poke:

Theres a chance of there being no casualties if a special force went in, theres a chance of there being a couple, either way there would have been less..
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Jellyfish on January 22, 2013, 08:51:12 am
There may have been less, that's a possibility. But anyone who is capable to capturing such people knows that it would have serious repercussions. And such maniacs are extremely difficult to deal with.
Title: Re: Qaeda loyalists claim to have taken up to 41 hostages in Algeria
Post by: Jack Rosso on May 09, 2013, 12:31:40 am
see u later
sheepf**ker

fail troll is fail.
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