Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: Marcell on February 16, 2013, 11:13:14 pm
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So it passed through my ears that 2.1 script is already done but somehow the server is still 1.95 (thus being vulnerable to crashing all the time) why is that?
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So it passed through my ears that 2.1 script is already done but somehow the server is still 1.95 (thus being vulnerable to crashing all the time) why is that?
It's not done. Anyone spreading such rumors is lying.
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It's not done. Anyone spreading such rumors is lying.
Scripter himself told it's ready for Beta testing. The only problem is that the CP won't let him upload the .exe
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Scripter himself told it's ready for Beta testing. The only problem is that the CP won't let him upload the .exe
Beta testing is not the same as a release.
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The first version of 2.1 is complete and it has been uploaded. Unfortunately we can't go ahead with running the scripts though since we need Gandalf's help.
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The first version of 2.1 is complete and it has been uploaded. Unfortunately we can't go ahead with running the scripts though since we need Gandalf's help.
well that sucks, would be nice to have clarification from him here...whether this can be fixed...and all
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Script that are needed to run the server are ready, and will be tested on the main server after those scripts could be enabled (since the server can't crash more than it does now anyways). Then I'd guess axxo and stormeus would keep adding in what's needed while the server stays live.
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Scripts that are needed to run the server are ready.
But only the basic stuff is scripted.
The stuff that is ready might have a lot of bugs.
There are questions about 2.1's stability, maybe it crashes less than the current version, maybe not.
I'm still undecided if we should replace the 1.95 server with 2.1 Beta, so haven't approached Gandalf with it.
The overall progress is pretty stagnant, to be honest :-/
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There are questions about 2.1's stability, maybe it crashes less than the current version, maybe not.
I'm still undecided if we should replace the 1.95 server with 2.1 Beta, so haven't approached Gandalf with it.
The overall progress is pretty stagnant, to be honest :-/
If it crashes 20 times a day it's still less than the current version :(
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There are questions about 2.1's stability, maybe it crashes less than the current version, maybe not
That is so so so unlikely.
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If it crashes 20 times a day it's still less than the current version :(
Most of those crashes are likely related to the executable itself, rather than the scripts.
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Most of those crashes are likely related to the executable itself, rather than the scripts.
90% of the time are TBS attacking/crashing the server.
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90% of the time are gypsies attacking/crashing the server.
Apparently you and others have not learned from statements by the Server Owners that flaming people with that term is not allowed. It doesn't matter if they are attacking the community or not. Don't flame people.
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Most of those crashes are likely related to the executable itself, rather than the scripts.
75% 'cos server is attacked, 25% because scripts are fucked up.
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75% 'cos server is attacked, 25% because scripts are f**ked up.
The stability itself, though, is likely because of flaws in the executable, which I believe even Gandalf mentioned too. If the Squirrel server is more stable, that just means it was better coded to handle situations that could lead to crashes, as well as being overall more stable in design. I'd say your best bet while you wait for 2.1 to be finished is to pester VRocker into making the Squirrel server also support PAWN, or make a more-stable PAWN one, so that way you have a more stable executable running the PAWN scripts until Argo finishes the Squirrel ones and switches executables.
In a stable executable, even with bad scripts, at most you should get errors. Bad scripts should never crash the server itself. If they do, the server has a flaw in it's design that is leading to instability.
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No need to wait, 2.1 will be up and running pretty soon. We just need to get everything set on CP.
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Apparently you and others have not learned from statements by the Server Owners that flaming people with that term is not allowed. It doesn't matter if they are attacking the community or not. Don't flame people.
Someone needs to learn the definition of gypsy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy)
And what is offensive here?
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Someone needs to learn the definition of gypsy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy)
And what is offensive here?
If you wish to argue about it's usage, you can take it up with the Server Owners who have made several posts about it already.
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If you wish to argue about it's usage, you can take it up with the Server Owners who have made several posts about it already.
And you're defending a person who keeps attacking Argonath, i'd like to see what Server Owners would have to say about that.
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If you wish to argue about it's usage, you can take it up with the Server Owners who have made several posts about it already.
I would like to see the post where it is stated that the word "gypsy" is forbidden to be used.
Anyway stay on topic.
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And you're defending a person who keeps attacking Argonath, i'd like to see what Server Owners would have to say about that.
See this:
However understand that anyone...on Argonath should not be caught in any kind of malicious attacking behaviour regardless of what game, server or site it concerns.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=74018.msg1133564#msg1133564 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=74018.msg1133564#msg1133564)
I would like to see the post where it is stated that the word "gypsy" is forbidden to be used.
Let me show you:
...already warned by owners in the past about any anti-country/nation/race flame on server...
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=72633.msg1107014#msg1107014 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=72633.msg1107014#msg1107014)
8. Argonath recognizes that a part of the community is underage. There for the following shall be prohibited:
d. Cyberharrasment, stalking and bullying of players based on their belief, views, race or choices in life.
9. Argonath bases its community on respect and friendship between players of all nations. This means that those who feel that they are allowed to disrespect others, consider others as inferior or treat them as such will be offered the choice to either change their views or leave the community. This includes any groups of players in game.
10. Argonath will remain as open, friendly and strong community for people worldwide who wish to enjoy playing a game based on imagination and creativity.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.0)
No flaming (insulting/swearing) towards other players (personal attack).
Attempts to avoid or ignore administration punishment aren't allowed in any way.
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Argonath_Rules)
Avoid usage of inappropriate language, and especially those that may be directed at other players or groups.
- Please do not flame or intentionally use unsuitable language in the public chat as it can cause offence. In roleplay situations, avoid excessively swearing or flaming other players.
Rules may not be stretched or broken in the name of "roleplay", and must be upheld at all times.
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/VC:MP_Server_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/VC:MP_Server_Rules)
On Forums are not allowed:
1. Flame (personal attack/insult the players)...
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=46362.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=46362.0)
Now, as for what makes it obvious that it is flaming:
Gipsies of Romany origins have been a recognised ethnic group for the purposes of Race Relations Act 1976 since Commission for Racial Equality v Dutton 1989 and Irish Travellers in England and Wales since O'Leary v Allied Domecq 2000 (having already gained recognition in Northern Ireland in 1997). However, many Romani people find the term "Gypsy" offensive, and as a professor of Romani descent reports, even using the lowercase term is a process of erasure and normalization of hurtful term.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Romani_people#Gypsy_and_Gipsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Romani_people#Gypsy_and_Gipsy) -> Use in English law
Now if that doesn't explain it's derogatory usage of the term well enough for you to understand then please, by all means, take up your argument with the Server Owners, because I am seriously sick of that stupid word being thrown around to insult people.
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We don't need another one of these discussions, so both of you, please do and stop it. This topic is about 2.1 scripts. Thank you.
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I second that, there's no need to quote all that stuff in every VC:MP related topic.
Looking forward to playing in 2.1, although I should still find a way to fix my packetloss problem. :)
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malicious attacking behaviour regardless of what game, server or site it concerns.
And you take that as a malicious attack?
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And you take that as a malicious attack?
If you are making malicious comments about users, yes, that is a malicious attack on them. Get back on topic please.
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VC:MP gets attacked too? :o
Btw lol'in after reading how SugarD is negative about everything. xD
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VC:MP gets attacked too? :o
Btw lol'in after reading how SugarD is negative about everything. xD
Get back on topic and stop provoking people.
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VC:MP gets attacked too? :o
Btw lol'in after reading how SugarD is negative about everything. xD
no shit its prolly attacked more often than SA:MP, imagine if theres less than 3 rpg's on the client and most of the banned dm'ers and all use a simple program for wannabe ddos attack which crashes our server after less than 20 packets sent...
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Get back on topic and stop provoking people.
Not provoking. :redface:
I was just pointing to how you are saying its not done, even though developers are saying it is. and I meant that in a friendly way. :roll:
Anyway, everything is down for now.
no shit its prolly attacked more often than SA:MP, imagine if theres less than 3 rpg's on the client and most of the banned dm'ers and all use a simple program for wannabe ddos attack which crashes our server after less than 20 packets sent...
Haters, haters, everywhere. :hit:
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Many topics (or ways of referring to something) that may be funny in smaller social circles and amongst friends who share common interests are not going to be seen the same way universally. Because "me and my friends say it's okay" doesn't mean the world says it is. Interpretations vary so, so much... often not due to any fault by an individual... best rule of thumb is to just avoid those things and keep it strictly within close friendship groups, if that. : )
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Many topics (or ways of referring to something) that may be funny in smaller social circles and amongst friends who share common interests are not going to be seen the same way universally. Because "me and my friends say it's okay" doesn't mean the world says it is. Interpretations vary so, so much... often not due to any fault by an individual... best rule of thumb is to just avoid those things and keep it strictly within close friendship groups, if that. : )
If referring to me, I thought entire Argonath is full of friends, and there're no enemies, neither strangers, we are all friends.
Come on, we come here to be a kid, enjoy ourselves, we're all friends. Then why divide ourselves into small groups when Argonath in itself is like a big family?
Friends fight, friends argue, but they still stay friends. Wrong is that some people don't understand that and take it seriously. ;)
But today, yes, I have been proven wrong, its too late, and we already are divided into tiny little groups, living in our own world, inside the world of its own.
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I wish Gandalf could return since i pretty much can't wait for 2.1 and the fresh new start off (yes everything will be gone).
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I wish Gandalf could return since i pretty much can't wait for 2.1 and the fresh new start off (yes everything will be gone).
He will be back pretty soon. His extended absence is almost over. Klaus, aXXo, and Stormeus can still contact Sauron, however.
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Klaus, aXXo, and Stormeus can still contact Sauron, however.
Lets grab his attention.
Now where is that fuckin' ring?
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Lets grab his attention.
Now where is that f**kin' ring?
I think Golem stole it again. :P
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Actually, no, VCMP is not getting attacked. The whole Argo is. When, for example, SA:MP gets attacked, the whole Argonath RPG in general starts to malfunction. However, while SA:MP server might be still up during the attack, VC:MP shuts down immediatly, because it's much more vurnerable to DDoS than rest of the servers
Blame Stormeus and VCMP developers for this! :lol:
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Actually, no, VCMP is not getting attacked. The whole Argo is. When, for example, SA:MP gets attacked, the whole Argonath RPG in general starts to malfunction. However, while SA:MP server might be still up during the attack, VC:MP shuts down immediatly, because it's much more vurnerable to DDoS than rest of the servers
Blame Stormeus and VCMP developers for this! :lol:
Please, talk of such matters only if you know what you talk about. VCMP server most likely gets attacked more than SAMP does, but the effect doesn't go further than VCMP itself for the simple reason of it crashing way too fast. Every server goes down when SAMP gets ddos'd, because it needs alot more bots to actually take down.
Also Stormeus did not script the 1.95d, he fixed what could be fixed.
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Blame aXXo.
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Please, talk of such matters only if you know what you talk about. VCMP server most likely gets attacked more than SAMP does, but the effect doesn't go further than VCMP itself for the simple reason of it crashing way too fast. Every server goes down when SAMP gets ddos'd, because it needs alot more bots to actually take down.
Also Stormeus did not script the 1.95d, he fixed what could be fixed.
He's actually right. The DDoS'es against Argo lately have been most of what has been knocking VC:MP out. The difference is that when SA:MP gets attacked, the executable doesn't lock up, so it can often begin hosting again after an attack is over, whereas the VC:MP server, being a bystander in the attack, locks up and crashes, which leads to it being down much longer than SA:MP. There are often attacks to SA:MP during hours where no one is on VC:MP to see this, so it appears like a "hacker" attacked VC:MP directly.
I'm not saying people don't directly attack VC:MP more, but the quoted user is also correct that many of the outages in the last few months have been related to SA:MP attacks, since both mod servers are hosted on the same machine.
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He's actually right. The DDoS'es against Argo lately have been most of what has been knocking VC:MP out. The difference is that when SA:MP gets attacked, the executable doesn't lock up, so it can often begin hosting again after an attack is over, whereas the VC:MP server, being a bystander in the attack, locks up and crashes, which leads to it being down much longer than SA:MP. There are often attacks to SA:MP during hours where no one is on VC:MP to see this, so it appears like a "hacker" attacked VC:MP directly.
I'm not saying people don't directly attack VC:MP more, but the quoted user is also correct that many of the outages in the last few months have been related to SA:MP attacks, since both mod servers are hosted on the same machine.
I corrected his words due to these 2 points;
Actually, no, VCMP is not getting attacked.
Blame Stormeus and VCMP developers for this! :lol:
It is not the fault of Stormeus nor VCMP Developers if people exploit a weakness within the code or just directly DDoS a server. And trust me, I know when SAMP or VCMP gets attacked due to the result it provides ;)
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It is not the fault of Stormeus nor VCMP Developers if people exploit a weakness within the code or just directly DDoS a server.
That I do agree with.
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"Blame Stormeus" was just sarcasm :)
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I promise to get this sorted ASAP. I know we've all waited way too long for this.