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GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Entertainment => Topic started by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 02:15:20 pm

Title: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 02:15:20 pm
http://youtu.be/QxT4iF0GW3U
Hmm, how about just like SA, we get a missions/party(stunt) server for IV:MP too? Just that the missions are server sided. I think it'd be awesome and bring loads of players to RPG server as well, as it'll be one of a kind.  ;)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on February 20, 2013, 03:47:23 pm
IV:MP doesn't even work. How come we can host a stunt server?  :redface:
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 04:26:59 pm
IV:MP doesn't even work. How come we can host a stunt server?  :redface:
What  :neutral:

How do they do it then?

http://youtu.be/BuO1I1bC6Ek (http://youtu.be/BuO1I1bC6Ek)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on February 20, 2013, 04:33:28 pm
What  :neutral:

How do they do it then?

http://youtu.be/BuO1I1bC6Ek (http://youtu.be/BuO1I1bC6Ek)

That's original GTA IV Multiplayer :bye:

About Zombie rush, heh server already tried that event and it didnt end well so I dont guess it will be done again  :devroll:
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on February 20, 2013, 04:48:59 pm
What  :neutral:

Just stating the truth, unfortunately. Sorry..
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 05:31:39 pm
So Argo can't have a server in original GTA MP? o.0
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on February 20, 2013, 05:37:54 pm
So Argo can't have a server in original GTA MP? o.0

Oh, didn't think you wanted an original-mp one. Then I don't know.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 06:19:06 pm
Oh, didn't think you wanted an original-mp one. Then I don't know.
I would just love to see those missions on Argo.

I don't care even if we have to use mine craft client with GTA IV for that.  :devroll:
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on February 20, 2013, 06:52:48 pm
I would just love to see those missions on Argo.

I don't care even if we have to use mine craft client with GTA IV for that.  :devroll:

I dont think argo will open a GTA MP server so... u ll need to find your own friends to play :P
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: 74alper74 on February 20, 2013, 08:41:13 pm
Matt We can play together If you want but I have a problem.I found my GFL account and I tried to join.It said needs an update.When I tried to update it auto it gives an error.What do I need to do I don't know.I downloaded  latest versions but didn't changed.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 08:43:16 pm
Matt We can play together If you want but I have a problem.I found my GFL account and I tried to join.It said needs an update.When I tried to update it auto it gives an error.What do I need to do I don't know.I downloaded  latest versions but didn't changed.
Maybe try uninstalling first one and re installing new? :p

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/LIVE/PC/DownloadClient (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/LIVE/PC/DownloadClient)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on February 20, 2013, 09:57:05 pm
Matt We can play together If you want but I have a problem.I found my GFL account and I tried to join.It said needs an update.When I tried to update it auto it gives an error.What do I need to do I don't know.I downloaded  latest versions but didn't changed.
Maybe try uninstalling first one and re installing new? :p

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/LIVE/PC/DownloadClient (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/LIVE/PC/DownloadClient)

^ This is probably the solution but telling the error would be good also instead "gives error" :p
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 20, 2013, 11:19:07 pm
Also I don't think we can create zombie missions in IV original MP o.O

There are only races, deathmatches etc, and its so hard to find players.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on February 21, 2013, 01:08:13 am
You can't make scripts for the original, plus you have to have a game console that is always running and online to host the game.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 21, 2013, 07:57:29 am
You can't make scripts for the original, plus you have to have a game console that is always running and online to host the game.
Then how did they do what they're doing in the videos?
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on February 21, 2013, 08:24:28 am
Then how did they do what they're doing in the videos?
Those are either gamemodes made by Rockstar Games themselves, or they were using something else.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: James Conway on February 21, 2013, 11:07:42 am
Those are either gamemodes made by Rockstar Games themselves, or they were using something else.

If you look closey, you can see they use gamemodes like Race to do the busted game, and TDM with the zombie thing. Its done on official multiplayer. I can recall a hack that you can use without being detected online, so that could make stuff easier. So for this kind of stuff you just need motivated ppl. And of course a legal copy of GTA, or else you can't play online.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 21, 2013, 01:21:56 pm
Oh nice ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well I got both, I have a legit GTA IV, just need more motivated people.  :roll:

Also, the official MP runs smooooooothly.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on February 21, 2013, 03:27:51 pm
Then how did they do what they're doing in the videos?

The server that you see is not dedicated server. And the things they do , does not require something extra, for e.x there is no cop chase mod or such , they just open race mode which is included in Original GTA IV Multiplayer, and everybody just pick which cop car they wish and the criminal one just picks a random car. If you have realized for some ppl it says ".... Enters 1st" which I guess they re using race mode :P They dont have the opportunity other than Original GTA IV Multiplayer offers :) Some game modes and a bit imagination is enough to have fun such like that community does :)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 21, 2013, 08:09:32 pm
What about Zombie one?  :rules:
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on February 21, 2013, 11:48:25 pm
What about Zombie one?  :rules:

That s what I was scared about what to say when u ask it :p but for sure its not dedicated server since chat box of original GTA IV multiplayer yells that its original  :mad: // Guess its just free mode. Everybody just pick the same skin and goes on except the forever alone human. Since that server and its little community is taken in through a white-list so they re invited and , ehh u know less trouble with players, there shouldnt be much trouble with preparing these imagined game-modes. ^^
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: James Conway on February 22, 2013, 12:05:00 am
That s what I was scared about what to say when u ask it :p but for sure its not dedicated server since chat box of original GTA IV multiplayer yells that its original  :mad: // Guess its just free mode. Everybody just pick the same skin and goes on except the forever alone human. Since that server and its little community is taken in through a white-list so they re invited and , ehh u know less trouble with players, there shouldnt be much trouble with preparing these imagined game-modes. ^^
I think it's Team deathmatch, since I recall them all having one color.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on February 22, 2013, 12:22:35 am
I think it's Team deathmatch, since I recall them all having one color.

As I know theer cant be more than 8 or 12 players in one team. These guys are like 20 xd

But if not, then yes it should be team deathmatch since all have same colors.. yea probably TDM
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on February 22, 2013, 03:32:36 am
I believe Rockstar Games had a zombie event for GTA IV's official multiplayer around Halloween. They may have left the gamemode accessible.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on February 22, 2013, 09:20:12 am
I was gonna say what Talya said, but he said it before me. :p

Yes, There can't be more than 10-12 players in any MP mode for Original IV MP. But them zombies, those are in hordes :o
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: ~Legend~ on February 25, 2013, 01:55:59 am
I'm sure if there is a lot of demand newer features and support content from Argonath would be feasible. I can imagine a stunt/"party" server being quite fun with IV, but right now SA:MP's the only one really to venture out on that project. I suppose one major thing pushing it forward over there is the generally large player base its client supports.

Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on February 25, 2013, 02:09:21 am
I'm sure if there is a lot of demand newer features and support content from Argonath would be feasible. I can imagine a stunt/"party" server being quite fun with IV, but right now SA:MP's the only one really to venture out on that project. I suppose one major thing pushing it forward over there is the generally large player base its client supports.
Argo used to have an experimental MTA:VC Stunt server years and years ago. It could be easily possible to shift the SA:MP Stunt server to an "Argonath Stunt" sister community and have players open up more stunt servers there. It's just a matter of making it happen, and getting people to join in successfully. :)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: ~Legend~ on February 25, 2013, 02:19:14 am
Argo used to have an experimental MTA:VC Stunt server years and years ago. It could be easily possible to shift the SA:MP Stunt server to an "Argonath Stunt" sister community and have players open up more stunt servers there. It's just a matter of making it happen, and getting people to join in successfully. :)


Ahh... definitely, it's not that the idea is a bad one or a definite "no"... who can tell what the future holds?
I suppose it's better to have 1 awesome server with an engaged bunch of players than 3 scattered ones.
I am sure the IV:MP team will be able to drive things forward.

To add to what Sugar's mentioned, we have Paruni, a counterpart of what Argonath has to offer.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on March 03, 2013, 11:30:06 am
No, I'm not talking about a DM/Stunt server. I'm talking about a mission server for GTA IV. Since IV:MP is mostly empty, a mission server would make it very popular! A server where players require zero interaction from others.

There're several of such kind on SA:MP and MTA:SA but none for GTA:IV.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 03, 2013, 11:45:04 am
No, I'm not talking about a DM/Stunt server. I'm talking about a mission server for GTA IV. Since IV:MP is mostly empty, a mission server would make it very popular! A server where players require zero interaction from others.

There're several of such kind on SA:MP and MTA:SA but none for GTA:IV.
We're not saying a DM/Stunt server or community. We're saying it could be another branch of Argo to experiment with such as separate servers, similar to how Paruni exists for "Argo's" DM servers.

I actually like the idea too. It would be cool for the community to experiment with other ideas in such ways, which could attract more players to all of the communities overall.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on March 06, 2013, 02:07:58 pm
We're not saying a DM/Stunt server or community. We're saying it could be another branch of Argo to experiment with such as separate servers, similar to how Paruni exists for "Argo's" DM servers.

I actually like the idea too. It would be cool for the community to experiment with other ideas in such ways, which could attract more players to all of the communities overall.
Yup, and it'll help populate RPG server a lot. Mission servers are like a quickie, where RPG servers are like a long lasting relationship.

Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on March 06, 2013, 04:34:32 pm
Yup, and it'll help populate RPG server a lot. Mission servers are like a quickie, where RPG servers are like a long lasting relationship.

There is a famous and annoying quote for this type of ideas.

Quote
Roleplay it!


Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 06, 2013, 04:37:54 pm
There is a famous and annoying quote for this type of ideas.
<Insert quote here>
He's talking about a separate server with a different gamemode. This is technically just in the wrong board.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on March 06, 2013, 04:44:50 pm
It would crash anyway  :poke:

Just not the right time to think about this imo.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 06, 2013, 04:45:34 pm
It would crash anyway  :poke:

Just not the right time to think about this imo.
Remember that it could also take quite a bit time to script something like this, so it could always be aimed at future versions too. :)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on March 06, 2013, 04:58:59 pm
Remember that it could also take quite a bit time to script something like this, so it could always be aimed at future versions too. :)

True.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on March 06, 2013, 05:06:23 pm
He's talking about a separate server with a different gamemode. This is technically just in the wrong board.
There's no other GTA IV/Server suggestion board. :p

This is the most appropriate board for this. xD

and ye, SugarD is right. I'm talking about a totally different game mode on a totally different server. i.e. Two GTA IV servers from Argonath. :D

Remember that it could also take quite a bit time to script something like this, so it could always be aimed at future versions too. :)
Sugar right again ^^
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 06, 2013, 05:21:41 pm
There's no other GTA IV/Server suggestion board. :p
You can use the Speakerbox board to discuss it. :P

That's how LU started out when we suggested a GTA III server. :)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on March 06, 2013, 08:27:03 pm
He's talking about a separate server with a different gamemode. This is technically just in the wrong board.

Oh yea Im sorry but while even we hardly get some players in server, would it be sth true to open another server?

Not even mentioning about Developers / Scripts / Client Problem etc. xd
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 07, 2013, 02:09:09 am
Oh yea Im sorry but while even we hardly get some players in server, would it be sth true to open another server?

Not even mentioning about Developers / Scripts / Client Problem etc. xd
A separate gamemode would likely put it into the position where it's either a different Argo community running it, like how Paruni hosts our DM stuff, or it would just be a separately-developed server from the main IV:MP one, like how SA:MP Stunt exists in Argo despite it not being a RP server.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on March 10, 2013, 06:23:54 pm
Oh yea Im sorry but while even we hardly get some players in server, would it be sth true to open another server?

Not even mentioning about Developers / Scripts / Client Problem etc. xd
It'll actually bring more players to not only Argo RPG, but to other IV:MP communities too. :)

As IV:MP is currently empty most of the time, or barely 10-20 players play, a mission server will grant it a boost.

It'll be exactly similar to SA:MP mission servers :p So no worries about development etc, ofc. it'll consume time but creating mission would probably be more straight forward compared to RPG scripts.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on March 10, 2013, 06:43:20 pm
Once the client is stable we could think about this  ;)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Matt Murdock on March 11, 2013, 05:21:49 am
Once the client is stable we could think about this  ;)
That does sound great. ;)
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on March 11, 2013, 03:04:30 pm
That does sound great. ;)

Waiting since 2011 does not sound great :/  :pop:
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: zater112 on March 19, 2013, 04:07:15 pm
Theres maximum 20Players daily on IV:MP it would not be that worth to create another IV:MP server
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 19, 2013, 04:14:09 pm
Theres maximum 20Players daily on IV:MP it would not be that worth to create another IV:MP server
That is because the mod is in early development. You wouldn't necessarily be splitting players by creating another server with another gamemode. New players interested in the other gamemode would go to that first. They could eventually even become players in both servers, which benefits both. Take SA:MP and SA:MP Stunt as an example of this in Argo.
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on March 19, 2013, 05:46:17 pm
Once a time...

There was maximum 20Players daily on IV:MP it would not be that worth to create another IV:MP server
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Batta on March 19, 2013, 06:09:49 pm
He probably meant client-wide, not argonath-wide  :roll:
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 19, 2013, 06:39:41 pm
He probably meant client-wide, not argonath-wide  :roll:
I had a feeling that was what he meant too, but I've seen many more players than that online in the server browser alone. I'm not quite sure where he's getting this information from. :P
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: Talya_taya on March 19, 2013, 07:03:04 pm
He probably meant client-wide, not argonath-wide  :roll:

Does it matter? Do you really think iv-mp has max 20 players considering all servers?  :poke: I thought he meant argonath-wide cos dont think that all players will join to argonath or such. Anyway both are ending in same point.

Others who are still cant wait for rc3 , are probably on r390 or whichever it is... ,, probably...
Title: Re: GTA IV Mission/Party server
Post by: SugarD on March 19, 2013, 09:15:26 pm
Does it matter? Do you really think iv-mp has max 20 players considering all servers?  :poke: I thought he meant argonath-wide cos dont think that all players will join to argonath or such. Anyway both are ending in same point.

Others who are still cant wait for rc3 , are probably on r390 or whichever it is... ,, probably...
As I mentioned before, it will take a very long time until such a gamemode could be completed, so waiting until RC3 is released to even begin would just be wasting time. Even if the gamemode is somehow finished before RC3 is released, it can still be made public, or the Developers of the server gamemode could easily just wait until RC3 is out to release it.
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