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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Reece on April 03, 2013, 10:18:59 am
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A couple who killed six children in a house fire in Derby will be sentenced for manslaughter at Nottingham Crown Court later.
Mick and Mairead Philpott, as well as their friend Paul Mosley, were convicted on Tuesday after an eight-week trial.
Derbyshire Police said it was the most upsetting case it had ever dealt with.
The couple's families released statements saying they thought "justice had been served".
'Violent and controlling'
The jury at Nottingham Crown Court returned unanimous decisions on Mosley and Mick Philpott while Mairead Philpott was convicted by a majority.
Five of the Philpott's children died in their home in Victory Road and the sixth, from a previous relationship, died in hospital.
Jade Philpott, 10, John, nine, Jack, eight, Jesse, six, and Jayden, five, died on the morning of the fire on 11 May 2012.
Mairead Philpott's son from a previous relationship, 13-year-old Duwayne, died later in hospital.
Jurors heard that Philpott had been violent and controlling towards his former live-in mistress, Lisa Willis.
When she left, taking her children, he became "obsessed with getting Lisa and the kids back".
The court heard Mick Philpott wanted to rescue the children from the fire, blame Miss Willis, and be hailed a hero - but the plan went wrong.
Professor David Cantor, an investigative psychologist at the University of Huddersfield, said: "He [Mick Philpott] lived in a world where he could get away with anything.
"He had these two women, he'd been on television, he was a bit of a sort of local celebrity almost, and he probably had a great confidence that he could get away with all sorts of things."
Mairead Philpott's sister, Jennifer Lobban, told the BBC's Panorama team she had been dominated by Mick Philpott.
She said: "She is a victim of Mick, but, at the end of the day, when it comes to your kids, she should have put them first."
Jurors were told that Philpott was to "act the hero and victim" and perhaps obtain a bigger house.
Father of 17
Derby South MP Margaret Beckett once met him as his constituency member of Parliament when he was trying to get a bigger house because of the size of his family.
She said: "He was the sort of person who gives compassion and public support a bad name.
"I wished he lived in somebody else's constituency, if that doesn't sound a ridiculous thing to say. He wasn't somebody you wanted to be responsible for in any way."
During the trial the court heard details of how Philpott led an unconventional life at Victory Road.
He would share a bed with his wife and Miss Willis on alternate nights, and both women were said to have lived happily with one another and the situation for a decade.
But Miss Willis, 29, became unhappy with the domestic set-up three months before the fire and left with her five children, four of whom were fathered by Philpott.
The fatal blaze engulfed the house as the children slept just hours before Philpott, who was father to a total of 17 children by five different women, and Miss Willis were due to appear at a pre-scheduled court hearing to discuss residency of their children.
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I don't know how these people can go on national television and claim innocence when deep down they know what they did to their kids. Sick.
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Oh My GOD
I hope this son of a bad girl go to the hell!!!
Post Merge: April 03, 2013, 01:51:14 pm
this son of a bad girl
LOL hahahhahah you change it (bad girl, was something else ;) ),but why? he deserve it!!!
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Oh My GOD
I hope this son of a bad girl go to the hell!!!
Post Merge: April 03, 2013, 01:51:14 pm
LOL hahahhahah you change it (bad girl, was something else ;) ),but why? he deserve it!!!
It will automatically change the word 'B!tch' to 'Bad girl', don't know why, kind of stupid to be honest..
The parents deserve the death penalty, why should people like them be allowed to live when they took the lives of 6 kids..
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I don't know how these people can go on national television and claim innocence when deep down they know what they did to their kids. Sick.
Agreed. If they truly felt sorry, by human reaction they would be blaming themselves, regardless of who's fault it is. They shouldn't have been parents to begin with...
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Update:
Derby fire deaths: Philpotts and Mosley jailed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-22023117 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-22023117)
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Update:
Derby fire deaths: Philpotts and Mosley jailed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-22023117 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-22023117)
When they say life they don't mean it. He'll be let out in about 15 years on "good behaviour". That's how our justice system works.
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Kids piss me off too.
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When they say life they don't mean it. He'll be let out in about 15 years on "good behaviour". That's how our justice system works.
I know that, life in the UK is up to 25 years, though IMO life should mean LIFE.
Plus, the guy will need to be protected in prison, if you didn't know prisoners in the UK don't like pedophiles and child murderers, like with that girl that got kidnapped in Wales, probibly murdered and still hasn't been found, prisoners have already been threatening the suspected killer.
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Kids piss me off too.
:lol:
But you aint killing them isn't? :lol:
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Kids piss me off too.
He didn't do this to intentionally kill the kids, he started the fire in an attempt to frame his ex-partner but it went horribly wrong. He claims to have loved his kids but no parent who truly loved their kids would put them through that sort of an ordeal.
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I know that, life in the UK is up to 25 years, though IMO life should mean LIFE.
No it doesn't.
Life depends on the crime and what the judge sets the tariff at.
In this scumbags case, he has been sentenced to a minimum of 17 years before he is eligible for parole; which he will very likely be denied.
For manslaughter the sentence is discretionary meaning the judge can set it at whatever they like. Could be a fine (common for companies) up to life (no chance of parole) in prison. However whole-life tariffs can be squashed by the home secutary and the court of appeal.
For murder there are various stages that the guidelines recommend with the highest being whole life tariffs (until death). There's about 50 people with that sentence at the moment.
When a minimum term is set then their release is conditional on their behaviour in prison and how at risk the parole board would consider the public to be at if he was released.
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No it doesn't.
Life depends on the crime and what the judge sets the tariff at.
In this scumbags case, he has been sentenced to a minimum of 17 years before he is eligible for parole; which he will very likely be denied.
For manslaughter the sentence is discretionary meaning the judge can set it at whatever they like. Could be a fine (common for companies) up to life (no chance of parole) in prison. However whole-life tariffs can be squashed by the home secutary and the court of appeal.
For murder there are various stages that the guidelines recommend with the highest being whole life tariffs (until death). There's about 50 people with that sentence at the moment.
When a minimum term is set then their release is conditional on their behaviour in prison and how at risk the parole board would consider the public to be at if he was released.
Its like you sat next to me at college. :)
to add to that, all offenders sentenced to Life are added to the Prison service's database for 99 years as reece said they are then set a minimum tarrif that they must reach before they are considered for parole which will most likley be denied.
I used to think very little of the UK justice system but after lessons at college which included talks from prison staff i think quite highly of it they do a lot in the way of programs to stop re-offending and life in prison in the UK is not as easy as many claim it to be
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No it doesn't.
Life depends on the crime and what the judge sets the tariff at.
In this scumbags case, he has been sentenced to a minimum of 17 years before he is eligible for parole; which he will very likely be denied.
For manslaughter the sentence is discretionary meaning the judge can set it at whatever they like. Could be a fine (common for companies) up to life (no chance of parole) in prison. However whole-life tariffs can be squashed by the home secutary and the court of appeal.
For murder there are various stages that the guidelines recommend with the highest being whole life tariffs (until death). There's about 50 people with that sentence at the moment.
When a minimum term is set then their release is conditional on their behaviour in prison and how at risk the parole board would consider the public to be at if he was released.
Well then I was wrong, I thought life in the UK was up to 25 years, I don't know how they can call 15 years in prison life.
The UKs jail system: Oh you just killed someone? Heres your cell, it has a PS3 and 32 inch TV, would you like a cup of tea with that?
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Well then I was wrong, I thought life in the UK was up to 25 years, I don't know how they can call 15 years in prison life.
The UKs jail system: Oh you just killed someone? Heres your cell, it has a PS3 and 32 inch TV, would you like a cup of tea with that?
Well again, they don't get ps3's, some prisons may give out ps2s without the Internet ability, but this is rare and only people who work for them get them, ie do work in the prison such as cooking.
The TVs are also almost always small 15 inch Tube tellies because they are less likely to break when the prisoner gets pissed.
The reason it's called life is because it is just that, they spend the majority of their life in prison and are very often unlikely to be given parole. But the other two will almost certainly get out in 1/2 the time because most sentences are automatically halved.
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Well again, they don't get ps3's, some prisons may give out ps2s without the Internet ability, but this is rare and only people who work for them get them, ie do work in the prison such as cooking.
The TVs are also almost always small 15 inch Tube tellies because they are less likely to break when the prisoner gets pissed.
The reason it's called life is because it is just that, they spend the majority of their life in prison and are very often unlikely to be given parole. But the other two will almost certainly get out in 1/2 the time because most sentences are automatically halved.
The UK's law system is a mockery, sure the cops do a great job, but when it comes to the court room every criminal doesn't care what the judge gives him because he knows it's going to be light, you could stab someone and get sentenced to a month in jail, you could could smash up every car in a single street and you'd get a slap on the wrist and be told to go home, this case is an example of how pathetic criminal punishment is in the UK, they should have gotten LIFE, instead they got 15 years behind bars (the women each got 7(?)) and then they'll be free to live the rest of their lives even after murdering 6 young children who had barely seen anything, I was watching a police programme on TV the other day, 3 guys robbed a security van somewhere in England, 1 of them got 2 years, the other 2 (who were throwing all the stolen cash out the car windows) had the charges on them dropped due to lack of evidence, despite the police cars camera watching them hanging out throwing cash everywhere, we might aswell all just start robbing banks here in the UK, we'll get away with it wether cops catch us or not. :lol:
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Thats sick .