Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Ratko Gavrilovic on May 10, 2013, 04:29:30 pm
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"Downloads for 3D-printed Liberator gun reach 100,000
The blueprint used to produce a 3D-printed plastic gun has been downloaded about 100,000 times since going online earlier this week, according to Forbes.
Defense Distributed told the news site it was surprised by the amount of interest its Liberator gun had generated.
Earlier in the week, the company demonstrated the firearm being fired
But even before any more guns come off the DIY printing presses, there are moves afoot to ban it.
Metal detectors
Californian senator Leland Yee said he wanted a law passed to stop the manufacture of 3D-printed guns.
"I plan to introduce legislation that will ensure public safety and stop the manufacturing of guns that are invisible to metal detectors and that can be easily made without a background check," he said in a statement.
According to Defense Distributed, most of the 100,000 downloads have been in the US, followed by Spain, Brazil, Germany and the UK.
The blueprint has also been uploaded to file-sharing site the Pirate Bay, where it has become the most popular file in the site's 3D-printing category.
Firing pin
It took Defense Distributed eight months to produce the firearm, which was assembled from separate components produced on an $8,000 (£5,000) 3D printer bought from auction site eBay.
While downloading the blueprints may not be illegal, any UK citizen who made and owned such a handgun could face arrest, according to the UK's Metropolitan Police.
"To actually manufacture any type of firearm in the UK, you have to be a registered firearms dealer (RFD)," it said in a statement.
"Therefore, unless you are an RFD, it would most definitely be an offence to make a gun using the blueprints. It may be legal for an RFD to manufacture a gun this way, as long as they had the necessary authorities."
One of the biggest headaches for law enforcers is the fact the gun is made from plastic - with only the firing pin made from metal.
New York congressmen Steve Israel and Chuck Schumer have sponsored legislation aimed at adding a 3D-printing provision to the US Undetectable Firearms Act, which requires all guns to be detectable."
With other words, you can download a file on the computer and print it out on a 3D printer.
This will grant you with a plastic firearm which is as lethal as any other firearm
If you ask me, this can not end well in any way, as anyone is able to download these files.
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"Downloads for 3D-printed Liberator gun reach 100,000
The blueprint used to produce a 3D-printed plastic gun has been downloaded about 100,000 times since going online earlier this week, according to Forbes.
Defense Distributed told the news site it was surprised by the amount of interest its Liberator gun had generated.
Earlier in the week, the company demonstrated the firearm being fired
But even before any more guns come off the DIY printing presses, there are moves afoot to ban it.
Metal detectors
Californian senator Leland Yee said he wanted a law passed to stop the manufacture of 3D-printed guns.
"I plan to introduce legislation that will ensure public safety and stop the manufacturing of guns that are invisible to metal detectors and that can be easily made without a background check," he said in a statement.
According to Defense Distributed, most of the 100,000 downloads have been in the US, followed by Spain, Brazil, Germany and the UK.
The blueprint has also been uploaded to file-sharing site the Pirate Bay, where it has become the most popular file in the site's 3D-printing category.
Firing pin
It took Defense Distributed eight months to produce the firearm, which was assembled from separate components produced on an $8,000 (£5,000) 3D printer bought from auction site eBay.
While downloading the blueprints may not be illegal, any UK citizen who made and owned such a handgun could face arrest, according to the UK's Metropolitan Police.
"To actually manufacture any type of firearm in the UK, you have to be a registered firearms dealer (RFD)," it said in a statement.
"Therefore, unless you are an RFD, it would most definitely be an offence to make a gun using the blueprints. It may be legal for an RFD to manufacture a gun this way, as long as they had the necessary authorities."
One of the biggest headaches for law enforcers is the fact the gun is made from plastic - with only the firing pin made from metal.
New York congressmen Steve Israel and Chuck Schumer have sponsored legislation aimed at adding a 3D-printing provision to the US Undetectable Firearms Act, which requires all guns to be detectable."
With other words, you can download a file on the computer and print it out on a 3D printer.
This will grant you with a plastic firearm which is as lethal as any other firearm
If you ask me, this can not end well in any way, as anyone is able to download these files.
Pictures please.
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(http://www.computeridee.nl/sites/computeridee.nl/files/redactie/liberator-gun-photo-forbes.jpg)
And, a Vice documentary explaining all of this.
3D Printed Guns (Documentary) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA#ws)
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Yes and now the US Government is 'trying' to remove the download for it.
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Yes and now the US Government is 'trying' to remove the download for it.
Indeed, however it keeps getting reuploaded to torrent communities all over again and his encrypted site.
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WOW. I was always amazed by 3D printers, but never thought of a gun made by it!
So basically everyone can make a gun now with a printer. Lol.
I hope, i really hope these crazy terrorists in pakistan dont find this out. This is crazy!!
Im gling to download the file lol. Save it just in case. :D
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Indeed, however it keeps getting reuploaded to torrent communities all over again and his encrypted site.
Exactly whenever the US Government tries to step in it just makes the problem 10x worse as more people get intrigued by what it is and it continues to be circulated. Once the copy has been shared between two people it is basically uncontrollable from that point. Welcome to the internet Obama. Try and stop them.
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Someone I was talking to today said that the guy plans on putting some metal in them to prevent malicious people from sneaking them past metal detectors, but wants to eventually perfect the weapon so he can effectively change the firearms market into fair play for all. I'm not sure how this would affect the current "beta design" download of it, but it is definitely interesting to see, as the gun is completely legal by definition.
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Someone I was talking to today said that the guy plans on putting some metal in them to prevent malicious people from sneaking them past metal detectors, but wants to eventually perfect the weapon so he can effectively change the firearms market into fair play for all. I'm not sure how this would affect the current "beta design" download of it, but it is definitely interesting to see, as the gun is completely legal by definition.
He can't put metal in them because they're not even weapons when he puts them up for download, but files.
3D printers use plastic and the guns will therefor be able to sneak past any detector.
And I can't see how a firearm that can instantaneously kill a man is legal.
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I guess airport security needs to be overhauled...again.
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Share? :)
I am really amazed on how human technology evolved. Imagine printing your 3D food in 3013.
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Share? :)
I am really amazed on how human technology evolved. Imagine printing your 3D food in 3013.
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Yes.
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I am really amazed on how human technology evolved. Imagine printing your 3D food in 3013.
Somebody is already trying that.
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He can't put metal in them because they're not even weapons when he puts them up for download, but files.
3D printers use plastic and the guns will therefor be able to sneak past any detector.
And I can't see how a firearm that can instantaneously kill a man is legal.
1. I mean in terms of design, he can require it for the gun to work, should he choose to do so. Again, these are just rumors I've heard, though. I'm not saying they are fact.
2. The point of the idea is to make it legal to own for everyone who can safely have it, which would bypass the pretty ridiculous and highly-varying laws that are all over the country itself. The general idea is that if everyone is "packing heat", and everyone else knows the guy they are about to commit a crime against probably has a gun, they will more than likely not commit the crime knowing that they have just lost their advantage.
Same goes for those in self-defense scenarios. With crime rising and police unable to respond to most 911 calls now, people are often seeking new ways to protect themselves when then police can't do it for them. In a society where only *some* people have guns and others don't, you get an unfair balance which leads to those with the advantage misusing it. Make everyone equal and you greatly reduce that. Obviously criminals don't follow laws, (hence their name), so taking away all weapons isn't really an option, but giving a gun to all those who can safely handle it would be a balance that is more possible in our world. (Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world, else removing all guns worldwide would work.)
I'll try to avoid getting into a political discussion on this, but I'm sure you get the idea of where I'm going with this. I do agree, though, that it will likely need some sort of method of preventing criminals, psychopaths, and untrained people/children from obtaining it.
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1. I mean in terms of design, he can require it for the gun to work, should he choose to do so. Again, these are just rumors I've heard, though. I'm not saying they are fact.
The file is already online and the design is already a working one. It's too late to be thinking about that now. Got myself a copy of the file already too, just incase they're actually going to change the design and ruin all the fun. I was thinking of building a 3D printer. It's not impossible, a friend of mine did the same.
Here's a picture of his machine:
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q395/3DIMAGE/REPRAP%203D%20PRINTER/DSCF9515R.jpg)
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The file is already online and the design is already a working one. It's too late to be thinking about that now. Got myself a copy of the file already too, just incase they're actually going to change the design and ruin all the fun. I was thinking of building a 3D printer. It's not impossible, a friend of mine did the same.
Here's a picture of his machine:
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q395/3DIMAGE/REPRAP%203D%20PRINTER/DSCF9515R.jpg)
He's still perfecting the design, and it can change. Just because it is released doesn't mean it's the final version. ;)
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Now Al-Qaida want 3D Bombs :/
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Good luck trying to change the design in the hundreds of thousands of files that already have been downloaded and are stored safely on HDDs. ;)
As long as it functions without any problems, which from my understanding it does, then I don't think anyone with malicious intentions will use anything else which will get him detected in metal detectors.
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Good luck trying to change the design in the hundreds of thousands of files that already have been downloaded and are stored safely on HDDs. ;)
Why would they need to change those files? It's just a matter of releasing a new version. Obviously it's not going to be perfect the first time it's given to the public to use.
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Now Al-Qaida want 3D Bombs :/
Yeah, because they are not already 3D
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Why would they need to change those files? It's just a matter of releasing a new version. Obviously it's not going to be perfect the first time it's given to the public to use.
Because they've been downloaded over 100000 times and are undetectable.
Also, I wonder what the longevity on these things is. Probably not that long if used a lot. Plastic + friction = no-no
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Now Al-Qaida want 3D Bombs :/
*Al-Qaeda
Plastic + friction = no-no
Plastic + hammer = bye-bye
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Because they've been downloaded over 100000 times and are undetectable.
So? What does that have anything to do with releasing a new version when they update the design?
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Yeah, because they are not already 3D
2D bombs are dangerous man, you turn them flat and won't be able to see them. :lol: :rofl:
Why print a gun? Its like $1,000+ for the printer when you can get a much more decent weapon for that price. Pathetic.
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Because in the long run its better.
I can make as many guns as I want and only pay for the ink.
Make a group of 20 people and make guns for all my holmies. I can even customize the weapons. Afdingcustom decals and what not.
Plus no metal detect. But I dont get something..
Originally guns were metal and wood because a high amount of heat is generated when you fire it. This plastic toy should melt if we actually fire a gun. So I guess it wouldnt last after shooting 2-3 rounds. Dont you think?
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Originally guns were metal and wood because a high amount of heat is generated when you fire it. This plastic toy should melt if we actually fire a gun. So I guess it wouldnt last after shooting 2-3 rounds. Dont you think?
Yes, that and they also don't mention the chance of it fucking exploding in your hands.
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Aand it might not necesarrily shoot straight.
Like in a gun the barrel is metal. So it makes the bullet go straight. In a plastic gun, it cant make the bullet go straight. The bullet may just go through the plastic barrel and tear the gun on its way..
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In a plastic gun, it cant make the bullet go straight. The bullet may just go through the plastic barrel and tear the gun on its way..
Depends what type of plastic.
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Why print a gun? Its like $1,000+ for the printer when you can get a much more decent weapon for that price. Pathetic.
Because plastic isn't detectable in metal detectors.
Because it's legal to own a 3D printer.
Because real firearms are hard to get, depending on who you are, and where you live.
A good pistol doesn't go for less than $1,000,- either, last time I checked. ;)
And besides, you shouldn't look at the 3D printer's price, but the price of the materials you have to get in order to print with it. I don't think that'll go much higher than $50,-. And of course a 3D printer means you can print infinite guns, not just one.
Total profit, if you ask me.
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You don't really need a 3D printer to make an improvised gun.
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Besides, you are going to be very lucky if that printed gun fires properly at least once.
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Definitely in need of a 3d printer. :cry:
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Why print a gun? Its like $1,000+ for the printer when you can get a much more decent weapon for that price. Pathetic.
You're forgetting that these kinds of weapons aren't legal everywhere, and there are many, many restrictions on them in many places nationally, as well as worldwide. The point of this is to grant availability to anyone who feels they are having their weapons rights stepped on by the Government, and should be allowed to own one.
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Why not get proper weapons? Like stated, metal detection, and in the long run it would be practically free to create these weapons.
Just a 1 time investment for the printer and sometimes the materials is neccessary.
And of course, these are not meant to headshot a target hundreds of meters away or to last 10 years, but they can kill with ease.
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Still it's stupid to put it online, every sicko in the world can get a gun now, it's not illigal to buy a 3d printer.
Glad the firing pin needs to be metal and there are no plastic bullets
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Still it's stupid to put it online, every sicko in the world can get a gun now, it's not illigal to buy a 3d printer.
Glad the firing pin needs to be metal and there are no plastic bullets
Most of them would go for the real thing first. If they want to cause damage, they'll want something that can support automatic or semi-automatic gunfire.
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3d printer dildo to attack the pesky airport guards. :roll:
On a serious note, why the fuck would anyone even bother to make a plastical firearm?
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On a serious note, why the f**k would anyone even bother to make a plastical firearm?
You may want to check all three pages completely.
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Buy a BB gun from Play.com like all the badmanz do. :roll: