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Title: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Mr. Goobii on May 24, 2013, 08:28:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XJB7wP0c6y0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XJB7wP0c6y0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPL-uuF8EII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPL-uuF8EII)


Following few nights of violence that left cars smouldering in several Stockholm suburbs, The Local travelled to the north-western district of Husby where the disturbances began to see how the riots have affected local residents.

With Swedish police set to call in reinforcements in an attempt to get the now five-day-old wave of arson and vandalism under control, Sweden's image abroad may have been tarnished.

After a fifth night of violence, police now plan to call in reinforcements to help quell the riots, but parents and volunteer organizations who have patrolled the streets in recent nights have helped decrease their intensity, police spokesman Kjell Lindgren said.

The riots have shattered Sweden's image abroad as a peaceful and egalitarian nation, and sparked a domestic debate about the assimilation of immigrants, who make up about 15 percent of the population.

Firefighters were dispatched to 70 different locations in greater Stockholm overnight, extinguishing torched cars, dumpsters and buildings, including three schools, the fire department wrote on Twitter.

That was calmer than the previous night, when they handled 90 incidents.

Lindgren said 13 people had been arrested, between the ages of 17 and 26, but no injuries were reported.

One of the rioters in the suburb of Husby told Swedish Radio that racism was rampant where he lived, and that violence was his only way of being noticed.

"We burned cars, threw rocks at police, at police cars. But it's good, because now people know what Husby is... This is the only way to be heard," said the rioter, identified only by the pseudonym Kim.

In Rinkeby, one of the city's immigrant-dominated areas, six cars parked alongside each other were torched, according to a wire photographer on the scene.

A police station and several shops in Älvsjö were set on fire, but the flames were quickly extinguished.

Firefighters said a fire set at a school in another immigrant-heavy suburb, Tensta, was quickly extinguished, as was another at a nursery school in the Kista suburb.

And police in Södertälje, a town south of Stockholm, said rioters threw stones at them as they responded to reports of cars set alight.

Flames from another burning vehicle in the suburb of Jordbro spread to a shopping centre, which suffered significant damage before the fire could be put out.

Twenty to 30 cars have so far been reported torched at each of the big insurance companies If, Folksam and Trygg-Hansa, according to Swedish Radio, quoting an If executive as saying her company would end up paying "millions" of kronor (hundreds of thousands of dollars).

Eric Zemmour, a right-wing French commentator known for his controversial views, said the riots showed that the Swedish "kingdom of social democracy and of political correctness" was little different from countries like Britain and France.

"These are the same suburbs, the same traffic, the same angst, senseless aggression, the same hatred of the host country, the same way of isolating oneself in counter-societies ruled by the religious prescriptions of Islam, the same riots," he told RTL radio.

Many of the immigrants who have arrived under Sweden's generous refugee policy struggle to learn the language and find employment, despite numerous government programmes.

The troubles, which began Sunday in the Husby, are believed to have been triggered by the fatal police shooting of a 69-year-old Husby resident last week after the man wielded a machete in public.

Local activists said the shooting sparked anger among youths who claim to have suffered from police brutality and racism.

Stockholm county police chief Mats Löfving said Friday the rioters were local youths with and without criminal records.

In addition, "in the midst of all this there is a small group of professional criminals, who are taking advantage of the situation to commit crimes like this," he told Swedish Radio.

Official data shows unemployment was 8.8 percent in Husby in 2012, compared to 3.3 percent in Stockholm as a whole.

A 25-year-old who grew in Husby said he didn't think the riots had anything to do with the shooting.

"I'm not saying there are no problems... but people are glorifying this a little bit," said the man, who declined to be named, adding that the rioters were often youngsters aged 12 to 17.

"I can imagine they get a big kick out of seeing themselves on TV," he said.

Due to its liberal immigration policy, Sweden has in recent decades become one of Europe's top destinations for immigrants, both in absolute numbers and relative to its size.

In the past decade it has welcomed hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia and the Balkans, among others.
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Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Dolfagr on May 24, 2013, 08:47:21 pm
That's the result of being tolerant and letting immigrants who have nothing to offer in your country. I blame your past governments more than them though.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Mikal on May 24, 2013, 09:22:40 pm
That's the result of being tolerant and letting immigrants who have nothing to offer in your country. I blame your past governments more than them though.
Thats what is going on in the UK, maybe we need some mass rioting to get the message into our thick governments skulls.

Atleast Swedish people have a reason for all this, in the London riots it was just so chavs could steal TV's they couldn't afford. :lol:
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Zaila on May 24, 2013, 09:32:56 pm
Atleast Swedish people have a reason for all this, in the London riots it was just so chavs could steal TV's they couldn't afford. :lol:

And what reason is that?

They are causing these riots "because the police shot and killed a 69 year old man a week or 2 ago". Even the family of that man has in TV asked those retarded kids to stop it.

But no, they are using it as a excuse to act like monkies with 2 brain cells (which one of those braincells are in a wheel chair, and the other brain cell is pushing the first around). They are simply having a IQ of 10 and dont realise that all their shit is causing problems for innocent citizens. They dont think about that the car they just burnt up is needed by a innocent citizen to get to work. They dont realise that the building they just burnt down is a building of a company which needs to shut down now because they can't afford anything else. Hell, they even started burning down schools now.

What reasons do you believe they have?
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Dolfagr on May 24, 2013, 09:42:54 pm
What reasons do you believe they have?

Even if their reasons are justified, these are acts caused by plain human stupidity and by wanna-be revolutionary teens.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: EliteTerm on May 24, 2013, 10:07:04 pm
Its a repeat of the London riots, nothing more.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Zaila on May 24, 2013, 10:20:40 pm
Even if their reasons are justified, these are acts caused by plain human stupidity and by wanna-be revolutionary teens.

But the thing is, their reason is not justified. They are just abusing the fact that the police killed a 69 year old man to cause havoc and create shit.

So far, they have burned up over 100 cars, 95% of those cars was owned by companys and private persons.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: [WS]Jacob on May 24, 2013, 10:51:51 pm
Its a repeat of the London riots, nothing more.
Essentially and I hope the Swedish authorities get a grip of it soon.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Petarda on May 24, 2013, 11:09:36 pm
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Stockholm burning.

They stole your potatoes so you burned the city, right?
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Aksel on May 25, 2013, 12:00:11 am
This is the unfortunate effect of over-time abuse of state authority towards foreigners. This occur in Norway aswell. Immigration as a term is not the reason for this. Lack of interest in integration politics and political blindness is the reason. Using police as a weapon instead of doing politics is what have been done for a very long time.

"Polisen väntar tålmodigt på at du skal göra någet fel".

The police is suppose to be an authority that protects your freedom and civil rights. Now they seem to be a weapon.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Hevar. on May 25, 2013, 12:07:16 am
Guys!!! Listen these people getting paid by media, Aftonbladet and Expressen paying these young people to burn things then they get alot of money.

http://hotlamotte.com/2013/05/24/aftonbladet-och-expressen-betalar-oss-for-att-branna-bilar-i-husby/ (http://hotlamotte.com/2013/05/24/aftonbladet-och-expressen-betalar-oss-for-att-branna-bilar-i-husby/)
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Mikal on May 25, 2013, 12:23:12 am
And what reason is that?

They are causing these riots "because the police shot and killed a 69 year old man a week or 2 ago". Even the family of that man has in TV asked those retarded kids to stop it.
Thats no reason to riot, I got my facts wrong, thought it was over immigration policies after I read what Dolfa said.. :roll:
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Mr. Goobii on May 25, 2013, 01:19:37 am
Guys!!! Listen these people getting paid by media, Aftonbladet and Expressen paying these young people to burn things then they get alot of money.

http://hotlamotte.com/2013/05/24/aftonbladet-och-expressen-betalar-oss-for-att-branna-bilar-i-husby/ (http://hotlamotte.com/2013/05/24/aftonbladet-och-expressen-betalar-oss-for-att-branna-bilar-i-husby/)

Ye, it says that on Aftonbladet's website too... If you get a nice picture of a event, you can earn up to 7777kr(around 800 euro)... If there is a accident somewhere, take a picture and you may get
a reward for that, most likely, same things applies to this.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Zaila on May 25, 2013, 11:51:35 am
Guys!!! Listen these people getting paid by media, Aftonbladet and Expressen paying these young people to burn things then they get alot of money.

http://hotlamotte.com/2013/05/24/aftonbladet-och-expressen-betalar-oss-for-att-branna-bilar-i-husby/ (http://hotlamotte.com/2013/05/24/aftonbladet-och-expressen-betalar-oss-for-att-branna-bilar-i-husby/)

Yes, they are encouraging people to crash with their car aswell since they can go out and take a picture of the accident and earn money on it.

Another ridiculous attempt to black mail them. I wonder why no one ever said it until now.
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: jannik852 on May 25, 2013, 11:58:05 am
Weird enough, ive heard nothing about it in the news over here in Denmark. :P
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Reece on May 25, 2013, 02:36:43 pm
London Riots: Stockholm edition
Title: Re: Sweden: Stockholm burning.
Post by: Witchking on May 25, 2013, 02:51:11 pm
Well this is the only one telling the truth, all others reasons or whatever media think is the reason, is wrong. 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=175676692595846&set=vb.274070532684689&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=175676692595846&set=vb.274070532684689&type=2&theater)

i will try translate what he says,

Guy1: It is our responsibility to stop this ... I think the police are too nice. The police could do a lot worse ... all of us don't even care of that 69-year-old ... They have very Boring. They just want to go out. It will be like action for them. There are many people here who do not pallets to work, they do not work, they can not be bothered to work. They find it boring to work. Then they blame on society. It's easier not to work. It's easier to be unemployed if only blame themselves. "

Guy2: Forget that social communication between you and police. It is common .everyone think this is fun and want to be violent against the police. No one is directly interested in politics

Guy1:It is ourselves. We have to change ourselves. We have to look in the mirror and change ourself. we can always try to act fine. The easiest thing to do is blame someoneelse. One can blame the police, the community, in all the countries. But deep down, no one takes the time to blame yourself ...
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