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Title: Turkish protests.
Post by: Dolfagr on June 01, 2013, 03:24:14 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/01/us-turkey-protests-idUSBRE94U0J920130601 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/01/us-turkey-protests-idUSBRE94U0J920130601)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22740282 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22740282)

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/06/20136162539347599.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/06/20136162539347599.html)



Apparently there have been several reasons during the past and now for the people to protest against the current government. The riots began as government is planning to tear down a park and raise a mall. There have already been unconfirmed reports of up to 7 deaths and injuries of up to 500, including protesters losing their vision by police rubber bullets due to the excessive force and police brutality.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Gandalf on June 01, 2013, 05:47:29 pm
When will the UN request the government to step down.... :devroll:
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Jerry_M on June 01, 2013, 05:54:47 pm
When will the UN request the government to step down.... :devroll:
21/12/2012. December, 21, 2012
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: TruthSvensson on June 01, 2013, 09:20:31 pm
I've been in the protests for last two days, It's like free cops spamming pepper sprays(But instead they have pepper gas bombs) and they have infinite source of them. Police brutality is still continuing and there have been many injured and a few dead people.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: AK47 on June 01, 2013, 09:22:07 pm
21/12/2012. December, 21, 2012

(http://i.imgur.com/E9Q4jFp.jpg)


It's like free cops spamming pepper sprays

Loool
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Hevar. on June 01, 2013, 10:22:04 pm
When will the UN request the government to step down.... :devroll:

Trust me, that never going happend. So long Erdogan has his seat on the throne and all power. Trust me, he dont give a fuck if all tourists or people civilians gets hurt or killed by the police.

I saw on Liveleak how the fire the waterconnon. They must stop play Call of Duty. :/
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Emre on June 01, 2013, 10:25:17 pm
Trust me, that never going happend. So long Erdogan has his seat on the throne and all power. Trust me, he dont give a f**k if all tourists or people civilians gets hurt or killed by the police.

I saw on Liveleak how the fire the waterconnon. They must stop play Call of Duty. :/
Do you even use your slightly noticeable brain before you post something? If he would have not done those acts, you would have called him a random prime minister. Though... no you wouldn't, you're the mad kurd who tries to get over the fact that the only thing they have is Batman and Diyarbakir.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Hevar. on June 01, 2013, 10:28:23 pm
Do you even use your slightly noticeable brain before you post something? If he would have not done those acts, you would have called him a random prime minister. Though... no you wouldn't, you're the mad kurd who tries to get over the fact that the only thing they have is Batman and Diyarbakir.

So you think that is okey? You see the people not agree with the idea and protests against it. And wash your damn mouth with soap.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Jerry_M on June 02, 2013, 02:46:11 am
So, cops IRL is a "Freecop" who have infinite source of gas bomb and pepper spray?
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Emre on June 02, 2013, 10:19:53 am
So you think that is okey? You see the people not agree with the idea and protests against it. And wash your damn mouth with soap.
I never said it's okay. Besides, he cannot give the protesters all they want, except for this case maybe.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: TruthSvensson on June 02, 2013, 02:09:31 pm
I never said it's okay. Besides, he cannot give the protesters all they want, except for this case maybe.
He must give us what we all want.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Dolfagr on June 02, 2013, 02:21:51 pm
He must give us what we all want.

Which is, if you don't mind explaining..
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Bundy on June 02, 2013, 02:36:19 pm
What's all this protesting about? I don't get it..
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Gandalf on June 02, 2013, 02:51:46 pm
you're the mad kurd who tries to get over the fact that the only thing they have is Batman
(http://www.hettaartgeheim.nl/1385-thickbox/luxe-kindertaart-batman-2.jpg)Could not resist....
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Dolfagr on June 02, 2013, 02:54:00 pm
What's all this protesting about? I don't get it..

The outrage began when the government decided to build a mall and tear down one of the last green areas in Constantinople. I am pretty sure there are way more reasons than that of course such police brutality, recent ban of alcohol etc.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Emre on June 02, 2013, 09:00:47 pm
He must give us what we all want.
He should at least allow the protests.

(http://www.hettaartgeheim.nl/1385-thickbox/luxe-kindertaart-batman-2.jpg)Could not resist....
Nanananana no.
(http://www.2b1stconsulting.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Shell_TPAP_Shale_gas_Anatolia_Batman_map1.gif)
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Mikal on June 02, 2013, 09:03:49 pm
The outrage began when the government decided to build a mall and tear down one of the last green areas in Constantinople. I am pretty sure there are way more reasons than that of course such police brutality, recent ban of alcohol etc.
They completely banned alcohol or something? :eek:

Edit: Wow..
Turkish Protester Hit By Police Panzer (TOMA) #occupygezi #direngeziparki (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbYQ_dzFniY#ws)
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Aksel on June 03, 2013, 12:20:52 am
lolno, just that shops can't sell alcohol after 22:00. Not exactly a "ban" huh? People like dramatizing the situations.

Lol
>20:00 Monday - Friday
>18:00 on Saturday
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Gandalf on June 03, 2013, 12:25:19 am
Do not spread fals information Yuri.

1. They are planning to build a shopping center, not a 'better park'.
2. Selling alcohol only after 20:00 or 22:00? What 'democratic' reasoning is behind that?

Protests being misused by people who just want to riot is usual. However it were protests like this that caused the civil war in Syria, so better be careful.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Mikal on June 03, 2013, 01:01:47 am
Protests being misused by people who just want to riot is usual. However it were protests like this that caused the civil war in Syria, so better be careful.
Just like the London riots, a bunch of chavs setting fire to and stealing from shops because they apperently were 'fed up with immigration' or 'couldnt get a job' or 'couldnt get a good education,' sick of people claiming to riot for a reason when really they are doing it just to steal or have fun.

Every country needs a civil war once in awhile, lets the government know who's in charge.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Louis_Smith on June 03, 2013, 03:06:26 am
forward erdogan! forward islam!
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Mikal on June 03, 2013, 09:34:54 am
forward erdogan! forward islam!
No thanks.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Perfect_Knight on June 03, 2013, 11:23:31 am
Do not spread fals information Yuri.

1. They are planning to build a shopping center, not a 'better park'.
2. Selling alcohol only after 20:00 or 22:00? What 'democratic' reasoning is behind that?

Protests being misused by people who just want to riot is usual. However it were protests like this that caused the civil war in Syria, so better be careful.
Most of the Turkish people are Muslims, In Islam Alcohol is haram/Forbidden, They broke that, Okay we said its a freedom, Aerdogan(The prime minister) made that as drunk people percentage is very high, They didn't stand that, So they waited any dumb reason to make riots, Protesting is legal, Your rights to protest are reserved but not to destroy a beautiful country like Turkey/Istanbul just because, They've not allowed selling from 6 AM to 9 PM, In Egypt we've nothing to lose, Our country is fucked up already, Please put your brains in your minds again, You just don't want him to build a Shopping center which is going to be the biggest and serve your economy, Takseem square makes not difference if its here of if it isn't, Try to keen on your country.

David <3
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Emre on June 03, 2013, 04:00:17 pm
Aren't you the one who posted stuff like "kurds don't have rights to speak kurdish in Turkey" here, while there is a national kurdish TV channel funded by this very goverment? I don't really "trust you". Just like yourcomrades, you too spread fake stories. Just like the blacks in USA, yes you were treated wrong back in time, but now you have more rights than everybody else, yet still moaning. Your father probably told you about how mistreated kurds were back in 80's, but not about the current situation. Most kurds don't have to pay electricty bills, kurdish women are generously paid for healthcare of their children, many more privileges that I can list if you want. So please, cut the crap.
You deserve a medal for shutting him up.

Do not spread fals information Yuri.

1. They are planning to build a shopping center, not a 'better park'.
2. Selling alcohol only after 20:00 or 22:00? What 'democratic' reasoning is behind that?

Protests being misused by people who just want to riot is usual. However it were protests like this that caused the civil war in Syria, so better be careful.
Irony.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Bundy on June 03, 2013, 09:51:00 pm
In the meanwhile Erdogan is chilling in Morocco.. :cool:
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Gandalf on June 04, 2013, 12:09:05 am
Yeah? and how come you are so SURE that they are building a shopping center while the government itself isn't sure about their plans yet? what is your source lol
The Dutch and international government press office.
If they are wRONg it means someone in the Turkish government has lied to them. Fix your own country.

Erdogan stated that the current plans are to merge the nearby museum with the park and modernize the area, but no certain plans so far. This "shopping center" thing is just another rumor. Don't talk about things that you don't know dear mister Gandalf. I've been to that place dozens of times. Gezi Parki is a small area, I don't know about where you live but here we don't build a "shopping center" on such a small zone. Current "construction" is just a regular road paving.
Actually I have visited it as well. And as said the information came from official sources, not some rumours.

This is not vodkalands, we normally don't pillage the shit out of the nation's biggest city over a "alcohol restraining" order. And even though it has nothing to do with democracy, again, they can vote for some alcoholic on the next elections if they wish.
So you feel that in between elections the government has absolute power to pull off any shit they want regardless of the other 55% of the people who did not vote for them?


Well this shows how misinformed about Turkiye you are. Totally irrelevant.
Not irrelevant at all. Erdogan has been shouting for Assad's head as a result of similar actions that the Turkish police are doing now.
So if he is not a hypocrite, let him step down for being unable to control the people.

Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Gandalf on June 04, 2013, 12:14:28 am
The brainwash is sure as hell high in this thread. Just as usual, people who never been outside The West see Eastern Europe/ Eurasia/Asia as barbaric states led by dictators and killers. If you haven't been there or haven't even looked up proper sources, stop spreading stupid shit, it just makes you look foolish and ignorant. It's always the same shit "Assad is bad", "Belarus is a dictatorship", "Putin is the new Stalin",... Get out of your hole you call a room and look up the shit that comes out of your mouth first before wiping it all over the internet, seriously.
Turkey used to be a modern country, where a separation between religion and state existed since 1929. It is also Turkey that is calling Assad bad, not me.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: [WS]Jacob on June 11, 2013, 06:35:24 pm
Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned that he will not show "any more tolerance" for protests.

He vowed to end the demonstrations after police cleared Istanbul's Taksim Square, the focal point of unrest for nearly two weeks. Police used water cannon, tear gas and rubber bullets, causing many to flee the square into adjoining Gezi Park.

READ MORE (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22859959)
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: TruthSvensson on June 15, 2013, 08:20:43 pm
Police started to attack again.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Emre on June 15, 2013, 09:36:00 pm
Protesters says they won't leave voluntarily.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Jerry_M on June 16, 2013, 05:12:59 pm
No thanks.
mikal, you hate muslim right?
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Mikal on June 16, 2013, 05:17:14 pm
mikal, you hate muslim right?
Not specifically, I hate religion as a whole, but hey Christmas is good. :lol:
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Alfredo_DeLuca on June 16, 2013, 06:50:53 pm
First of all, this is how events included me:
I was at my friend's flat and we got out with her. We walked like 5 minutes and the way which we had to use, was too crowded. However, as I said 'we had to use' that way and we walked into the crowded people. When we walked around 1 minute, our eyes started to burn. We were under the pepper sprays. Police started to throw tear gasses with their weapons. They were shooting at head line(btw this is not allowed). We ran with my friend to a street and we walked 500 meters. We turned to another street and we found an exit from that street. When we exit, we saw the polices. I said "Don't worry they are police doesn't do anything." But this was my last mistake. They ran after us with their nightsticks. We ran and we joined to people who protesting them. After that my resist had started.
I had no problem with police
They had no reason to attack me
But something happened. No-one can't say the goverment is right about this topic.

Reasons of the protest:

1. He banned alcohol from gas stations, okay this is true. But at normal shops we will be can't buying alcohol after 22.00 o'clock.
In Turkey, people who supporting president say that, Turkey's religion is Islam. 90 percent of the Turkey's citizens are muslim. This makes us ask this question. "If this is democracy, what about that 10 percent of citizens? Doesn't they have rights?" And the tragedy is that people who calls theirselves as muslim(60 percent of them), although they have to go mosque 5 times in a day, they are going just 1 time in a week.

2. President saw the protests and after that he said "Also we will build a Mosque there."
This man using religion to find support.

3. People were protesting the goverment and president announced that. "If they are 10.000 people there, I can collect 1.000.000 people for them!"
President? Are you adolescent? This attiude totally wrong for a president.

4. Presidend tried to ignore our rights and sent police for attack us while protesting.
In Turkey, every people have rights to protest.(If they don't damaging somewhere)
That night I saw that police was creating reason to attack us. Undercover polices were attacking to cars, houses randomly.

5. President said that "My citizens(that 50 percent who voted him) gave me rights. I don't need to ask noone to do something."
If that 50 percent of people, citizens of this country, the other 50 percent too. They have same rights. If they voted you, this doesn't mean you can do whatever you want as a president. There is democracy in this country.

6. President trying to remove Mustafa Kemal Atatürk from our past.
  There are feasts also principles of M.Kemal Atatürk. President banned our feast called with 19 May Republic Feast. This feast was given by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Turkish people wanted to celebrate it with Turkish flags but again police used force to stop it. Months later, there was a carnaval called with "Nevruz" name in Turkey. At Diyarbakır(a city) PKK Terrorist group's sympathizers, celebrated it with PKK flags, flags of the terrorist leader but police didn't nothing.
  About principles, secularism. Atatürk was set this principle in Turkey. But our president is trying to remove this for use religion easily.

There are many many many many reasons.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Mikal on June 16, 2013, 07:15:23 pm
Hate is a serious sign of weakness  :rules:
And religion was created to explain things that could not be explain thousands of years ago, today we can explain nearly everything through science, today religion only creates mass violence.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: EliteTerm on June 17, 2013, 06:40:45 pm
Unions are preparing for strikes in support
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/17/turkey-protest/2429697/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/17/turkey-protest/2429697/)

And Turkey is threatening to use military action, you know this is wrong when it's over a park.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: holacano on June 17, 2013, 06:56:35 pm
Unions are preparing for strikes in support
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/17/turkey-protest/2429697/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/17/turkey-protest/2429697/)

And Turkey is threatening to use military action, you know this is wrong when it's over a park.

onions preparing to fight?  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Mikal on June 17, 2013, 08:58:30 pm
Unions are preparing for strikes in support
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/17/turkey-protest/2429697/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/17/turkey-protest/2429697/)

And Turkey is threatening to use military action, you know this is wrong when it's over a park.
USA today need to learn some proper English, so many mistakes in there.
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Emre on June 18, 2013, 12:04:49 pm
From what I heard, the majority of protesters who were demonstrating for a plausible reason have retreated already...
Title: Re: Turkish protests.
Post by: Huntsman on August 18, 2013, 07:13:17 pm
The brainwash is sure as hell high in this thread. Just as usual, people who never been outside The West see Eastern Europe/ Eurasia/Asia as barbaric states led by dictators and killers. If you haven't been there or haven't even looked up proper sources, stop spreading stupid shit, it just makes you look foolish and ignorant. It's always the same shit "Assad is bad", "Belarus is a dictatorship", "Putin is the new Stalin",... Get out of your hole you call a room and look up the shit that comes out of your mouth first before wiping it all over the internet, seriously.

But Belarus IS a dictatorship :D
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