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Title: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 15, 2013, 07:31:32 am
You know how EA's COO Peter Moore told Geoff Keighley during the post-conference interview at E3 that the games they were showing off on stage were running on comparable dev kit specs to the actual home consoles? Well...that's not really true. What is true, however, is that to get the best performance on home console games, Microsoft made sure that they were running on the most stable system specs available on the market and that happened to be an HP powered, Windows 7 system with Nvidia's 700 series GTX GPU.

Thanks to the guys on the HFBoards, they put together a nice little cache of information on the Xbox One and PS4, strangely they had some fairly unflattering evidence of the Xbox One games not even running on Xbox One dev kits or, as Peter Moore put it, comparable specs...unless, Microsoft is switching from AMD cards to Nvidia cards in a last ditch effort to raise the price of manufacturing the console?

Anyway, Julian Rignall from US Gamers had an interesting Tweet to share, which on its own is quite harmless, noting...

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/56733/_1371234074.jpg)

Well, that's just some possible guesswork and speculation from one person encountering an error on an Xbox One and there's no way that any of that can remotely be proven because why would Microsoft not trust their own dev kits or comparable specs to run high-end games when...BAM!

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/56733/_1371234169.jpg)

Oh dayum!

And wait for it, wait for it...wait...for...it...Boom!
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/56733/_1371234242.jpg)

Money shot!

Truth be told, none of this should be a surprise to most people given that all E3 demos run their games on high-end PCs; it's a smoke and mirrors circus to sell the idea of the game, sort of like how pro wrestling sells the idea of fighting despite being scripted. We should all be used to it by now and it's just common practice [from most studios] given that the dev kits or comparable specs aren't usually finalized at this point.

However, in this particular case it does look bad on Microsoft's end that they didn't even trust to run the games from their latest Windows 8 operating system. As many people questioned on Twitter, why not Windows 8? Heck, Windows 8 is what one of the Xbox One's operating systems is based on. Opting for Windows 7 during E3 seems like Microsoft may not have had the confidence in their latest OS to put on the show they required or demo the games in the best of light.

I suppose the only real damning thing about this kind of exposure is that Microsoft didn't even use “comparable specs" from the company providing them with video cards in their home console. For those of you who don't know the Xbox One will run on a modified AMD GPU that, according to Extreme Tech, is on the level of a mid-ranged Radeon 7790. I guess the 7790 wasn't powerful enough for the Xbox One's E3 games eh? They needed a real manly card like the GTX 780, eh?

I guess it's like that old saying: If you want to dazzle on the grand stage you go GTX or you go home.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html)
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Driggz on June 15, 2013, 07:50:35 am
That computer is running Windows 8. If you look closely you can see that there is no start icon. I could be wrong though. Other than that I think the only explanation is if that display was project spark which uses cross platform
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: CharlieKasper on June 15, 2013, 07:57:23 am
lol...
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: EliteTerm on June 15, 2013, 09:16:28 am
To sum this up, Xbox One played Russian Roulette with all of its chambers loaded.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Gmail on June 15, 2013, 09:21:08 am
Excuse me while I point and laugh.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: BKP on June 15, 2013, 10:33:42 am
Oh the ironey
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: KhornateMonkey on June 15, 2013, 10:48:37 am
Oh the ironey

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: BKP on June 15, 2013, 10:51:50 am
Oh btw, does this mean that those Xbox only games work on PC?  :trust:
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 16, 2013, 05:45:54 am
Oh btw, does this mean that those Xbox only games work on PC?  :trust:
They should seeing the new consoles are based on x86 arch.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Gmail on June 16, 2013, 10:21:37 am
They should seeing the new consoles are based on x86 arch.
They are but the emulators will never be released, it is the dev kit that only developers get.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Huntsman on June 16, 2013, 11:36:43 am
HA! Take that consoles.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: BKP on June 16, 2013, 11:52:07 am
They are but the emulators will never be released, it is the dev kit that only developers get.
Following this, some smart dude is probably going to make an emulator
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 16, 2013, 06:49:34 pm
They are but the emulators will never be released, it is the dev kit that only developers get.
Dude, read again, Xbox one games were running on a PC running Windows 7, no emulators!

HA! Take that consoles.
It was only Xbox One games running on a PC. :p Sony confirmed they were using PS4 dev kits for the games showcased at E3.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Alsatian on June 17, 2013, 01:52:26 am
So what? Like it says in the article, practically all demos are shown on high-end PCs.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Pandalink on June 17, 2013, 02:01:18 am
So what? Like it says in the article, practically all demos are shown on high-end PCs.
Running Windows 7, not 8. lolol

Also, PS4 titles were on dedicated hardware.
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Spikmun on June 17, 2013, 02:09:19 am
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp45/Spikmun/Windows8_57ac13_4639576_zpsb092060f.jpg) (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/Spikmun/media/Windows8_57ac13_4639576_zpsb092060f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Xbox One Games At E3 Were Running On Windows 7 With Nvidia GTX Cards
Post by: Mikal on June 17, 2013, 10:39:35 am
I think a 4 year old has taken over this company.. Oh no wait, a 4 year old would do better. :poke:
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