Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: SugarD on September 13, 2013, 01:04:40 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D3di8Vw15XY
Watch the video all the way through to understand its meaning.
Be warned: If you practice Islam, please ignore some of the statements in the video. They are from an actor attempting to get responses from unsuspecting people to see their reactions, and are not meant to bash on your beliefs.
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So much fakeness in one video
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So much fakeness in one video
Watch it until the end. The "Muslim" and "racist" are the only actors. Everyone else inside the store are real people who were recorded over a period of time.
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Watch it until the end. The "Muslim" and "racist" are the only actors. Everyone else inside the store are real people who were recorded over a period of time.
Yes I know that, but I also believe that customers are actors too.
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Yes I know that, but I also believe that customers are actors too.
Everyone else inside the store are real people who were recorded over a period of time.
"If you're an american, you're an american. Period."
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Yes I know that, but I also believe that customers are actors too.
They were all just regular people. The reason why you can see their faces is because they likely signed a release form after the incident to allow them to be shown on television. That is the same reason why you see the first couple people before the "action" starts whose faces are blurred out.
Many people in the United States are much more tolerant of others than most outside of this country assume. :)
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So much fakeness in one video
Preaaaaaaaaaach!
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So much fakeness in one video
Yes I agree. Saw it earlier on Facebook and it just feels so faked.
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What an absolute load of bollocks, completely fake crap.
After working with 5 Muslims for the past year, I've been called evil for being an atheist, heard them say 'all women are stupid,' along with 'America is the devil', one of them said he'd kill his wife if she left the house (in the UK), and then theres the complete and utter lazyness, they preach more shit than the pope on speed, oh and America, you'll be glad to know that Obama is apparently Jewish, and the reason that the US is the 'richest country in the world' is because the Jews have taken over every major business, just according to my good old friends at work.
It's nothing personal, just the truth, what I have heard, seen and experienced first hand, theres alot worse things but I won't stick round to mention them, don't get me wrong, theres alot of nice Muslims out there, but theres also alot more, probably even the larger majority who have completely unacceptable attitudes and opinions.
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What an absolute load of bollocks, completely fake crap.
After working with 5 Muslims for the past year, I've been called evil for being an atheist, heard them say 'all women are stupid,' along with 'America is the devil', one of them said he'd kill his wife if she left the house (in the UK), and then theres the complete and utter lazyness, they preach more shit than the pope on speed, oh and America, you'll be glad to know that Obama is apparently Jewish, and the reason that the US is the 'richest country in the world' is because the Jews have taken over every major business, just according to my good old friends at work.
It's nothing personal, just the truth, what I have heard, seen and experienced first hand, theres alot worse things but I won't stick round to mention them, don't get me wrong, theres alot of nice Muslims out there, but theres also alot more, probably even the larger majority who have completely unacceptable attitudes and opinions.
It is not the Muslims who have unacceptable attitudes and opinions. It is people who feel their own beliefs override those of everyone around them. It is not just Muslims who have that problem. It is people from every ethnicity and religious belief.
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What an absolute load of bollocks, completely fake crap.
After working with 5 Muslims for the past year, I've been called evil for being an atheist, heard them say 'all women are stupid,' along with 'America is the devil', one of them said he'd kill his wife if she left the house (in the UK), and then theres the complete and utter lazyness, they preach more shit than the pope on speed, oh and America, you'll be glad to know that Obama is apparently Jewish, and the reason that the US is the 'richest country in the world' is because the Jews have taken over every major business, just according to my good old friends at work.
It's nothing personal, just the truth, what I have heard, seen and experienced first hand, theres alot worse things but I won't stick round to mention them, don't get me wrong, theres alot of nice Muslims out there, but theres also alot more, probably even the larger majority who have completely unacceptable attitudes and opinions.
Those are called the hard side of muslims. They just follow their minds and old non-islam traditions and that even in the rules not allowed they really need to visit a good imam or some doctor. No offense.
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It is not the Muslims who have unacceptable attitudes and opinions. It is people who feel their own beliefs override those of everyone around them. It is not just Muslims who have that problem. It is people from every ethnicity and religious belief.
True, but only to some degree. Islam as a concept is scary to me, I am afraid of its influence and our willingness to (for want of a better analogy) bend over and take it. I still believe that it's something worth fighting against, for exactly the reasons that Mikal posted.
You might not understand as the problem probably isn't as prevalent in the US, but we're losing our country and the more we allow Islam to do the more we lose.
Anyway, as for the video, I wouldn't expect any different from those people. The actor being the racist wasn't really being "racist" any more than he was just downright being a prick, and if someone is being a prick I'd expect people to step in and set him straight.
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Hello Every One
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I just wanna Mention smth about islam
islam is not what you thinking is not some ppl who wanna kill every one
or Bomb Smth Nuh its not like that
Islam is Not just a religion its a way of life he is trying to teach you how to act with ppl how to be a good person how to help your friend when he needs you how to help how to Respect any other religion how to Forgive , islam deny laying , killing , Insulting , spying and a lot of things that we all over the world know that's wrong . you know smth in islam if you can and insulted me How should i act if i was a real muslim i should say only on word "God forgive you" that's The real islam is No such thing about killing ppl or any bad thing and about Willing Islam doesn't tell you to do that or to not do this you r not a muslim you r free to do what ever you wanna do you muslim yeah there is a few thing that is not denied but it's not good to do like smoking drugs wine etc and why that cuz it's gonna kill you in the end or make you sick i don't think any one gonna be hurt if some one didn't smoke or smth
That's islam But the ppl who killing innocent ppl they are absolutely not muslims They Are Terrorist and should die .
In the End of this am gonna say some thing
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There is only 2 kind of ppl
1-Good ppl
2-bad ppl
There is no such a thing like 3-muslim ppl
So don't just decide that am a bad guy cuz am a muslim and in 1990-0-0 or what ever some muslim killed some on or Bombed smth
Doesn't make any sense .
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Iam a Muslim And Proud To be
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Hello Every One
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I just wanna Mention smth about islam
islam is not what you thinking is not some ppl who wanna kill every one
or Bomb Smth Nuh its not like that
Islam is Not just a religion its a way of life he is trying to teach you how to act with ppl how to be a good person how to help your friend when he needs you how to help how to Respect any other religion how to Forgive , islam deny laying , killing , Insulting , spying and a lot of things that we all over the world know that's wrong . you know smth in islam if you can and insulted me How should i act if i was a real muslim i should say only on word "God forgive you" that's The real islam is No such thing about killing ppl or any bad thing and about Willing Islam doesn't tell you to do that or to not do this you r not a muslim you r free to do what ever you wanna do you muslim yeah there is a few thing that is not denied but it's not good to do like smoking drugs wine etc and why that cuz it's gonna kill you in the end or make you sick i don't think any one gonna be hurt if some one didn't smoke or smth
That's islam But the ppl who killing innocent ppl they are absolutely not muslims They Are Terrorist and should die .
In the End of this am gonna say some thing
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There is only 2 kind of ppl
1-Good ppl
2-bad ppl
There is no such a thing like 3-muslim ppl
So don't just decide that am a bad guy cuz am a muslim and in 1990-0-0 or what ever some muslim killed some on or Bombed smth
Doesn't make any sense .
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Iam a Muslim And Proud To be
So what was your thought to the video?
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True, but only to some degree. Islam as a concept is scary to me, I am afraid of its influence and our willingness to (for want of a better analogy) bend over and take it. I still believe that it's something worth fighting against, for exactly the reasons that Mikal posted.
You might not understand as the problem probably isn't as prevalent in the US, but we're losing our country and the more we allow Islam to do the more we lose.
Muslims can preach Islam just as hard as any other religion can. There are plenty of "Bible thumpers" out there which preach various forms of Christianity too. I'm sure we all know what Jehovah's Witnesses do. Blaming people for believing in something they think is the truth to many great mysteries in life is like saying they can't have their own opinion. So what if more people believe in one thing over another? That is their own choice as long as it isn't forced upon them, from which they can still choose their own path in life regardless. I'm Atheist, born into a non-practicing Catholic family. I was sent to Catholic school. Many Police Officers I work with on a daily basis at work are hardcore Christians. Many of the convenience store properties I've worked at are run by Buddhists and Muslims. One place I also work at is owned by a Jewish family. I treat them the same as anyone else, and they do the same for me. Although they may sometimes talk to people about their religion and try to "recruit" them because they feel they want to help save someone, they don't force it upon people...just like I don't force my opinions of not believing in religion upon those who are religious.
Long story short, give respect and get respect. If you are tolerant of others, even if you don't agree with them, you can still co-exist just fine.
One of my favorite quotes can actually be applied to this situation:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire/Evelyn Beatrice Hall
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Although they may sometimes talk to people about their religion and try to "recruit" them because they feel they want to help save someone, they don't force it upon people...just like I don't force my opinions of not believing in religion upon those who are religious.
You Just Said what i forget to say..
One of my favorite quotes can actually be applied to this situation:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire/Evelyn Beatrice Hall
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True, but only to some degree. Islam as a concept is scary to me, I am afraid of its influence and our willingness to (for want of a better analogy) bend over and take it. I still believe that it's something worth fighting against, for exactly the reasons that Mikal posted.
You might not understand as the problem probably isn't as prevalent in the US, but we're losing our country and the more we allow Islam to do the more we lose.
Anyway, as for the video, I wouldn't expect any different from those people. The actor being the racist wasn't really being "racist" any more than he was just downright being a prick, and if someone is being a prick I'd expect people to step in and set him straight.
Doesn't London already have the biggest mosque outside of any Islamic country? I agree that we are all humans, but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth, the simple fact that one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough, and yes I've heard alot worse, but I hear it on a daily basis working with them that I just ignore it, most of the time they are blabbing in their own language with the 100's of Islamic people that come in weekly, I honestly hate my job and can't wait to get the f**k out of there so I can finally be away from these people, I would happily welcome them into the UK, aslong as they left their religion behind, as an Atheist I don't support religion as a whole, and so it should be known that I am only targetting Islam so much because of my own experience with Muslims I work with, see and meet on a daily basis.
I can't wait for UKIP to get into power, maybe the UK will end up like Australia and we won't have to lose our countries personality, or whats left of it.
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...it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth...
That actually isn't true. Most religions in general have spawned much greater violence over time. Take the Christian Crusades as an example.
Remember, it is people who are violent, not their beliefs. They are the ones who choose to act upon something with violence or peace.
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Doesn't London already have the biggest mosque outside of any Islamic country? I agree that we are all humans, but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth, the simple fact that one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough, and yes I've heard alot worse, but I hear it on a daily basis working with them that I just ignore it, most of the time they are blabbing in their own language with the 100's of Islamic people that come in weekly, I honestly hate my job and can't wait to get the f**k out of there so I can finally be away from these people, I would happily welcome them into the UK, aslong as they left their religion behind, as an Atheist I don't support religion as a whole, and so it should be known that I am only targetting Islam so much because of my own experience with Muslims I work with, see and meet on a daily basis.
I can't wait for UKIP to get into power, maybe the UK will end up like Australia and we won't have to lose our countries personality, or whats left of it.
So as usual, you're being that guy that doesn't like anyone who's not similar to him.
Oh by the way, just so you don't take it as a compliment: it sucks.
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This is bullshit, we all know 'Murica is the most racist country ever...
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one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough
And Islam says it is allowed where exactly?
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but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth
Excuse me?
Islam Is fastest growing religion in the world, analysis says that Islam is growing faster than the world population. Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. There are 87% Sunni and 12% Shia and 1% others are completing the figure of the Muslim world.
1.6 billion people on earth are muslims. And spread all over the world if the british people didn't want Muslim people to step in their country...they could have not allowed the Immigration of "Muslim" people.
And for the violence, Please dont give me this bullshit not every Muslim is violent. Islam does not accept violence and the those who do violent stuff being a muslim are surely doing it for themselves.
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And for the violence, Please dont give me this bullshit not every Muslim is violent.
He didn't say every muslim is violent.
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He didn't say every muslim is violent.
He said Islam is the most violent religion. Doesnt that mean that all muslims are violent?
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He said Islam is the most violent religion. Doesnt that mean that all muslims are violent?
No. The religion itself is violent, but not all muslims.
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No. The religion itself is violent, but not all muslims.
Please explain how is islam violent.
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Please explain how is islam violent.
I don't give a shit about religion really, was just referring to what Mikal said.
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Well then, cant we just lock this topic as it is going NO where?
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Well then, cant we just lock this topic as it is going NO where?
Seeing this may change people's views on American soldiers as I know not everyone supports what they do. But maybe the religious discussion should be left out as it always causes problems and conflicting views. ;)
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Seeing this may change people's views on American soldiers as I know not everyone supports what they do. But maybe the religious discussion should be left out as it always causes problems and conflicting views. ;)
Yes. This religious talk is annoying as everyone has different views on every religion. To be honest I have no problem against ANY religion in the world. Everyone has there own beliefs.
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Doesn't London already have the biggest mosque outside of any Islamic country? I agree that we are all humans, but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth, the simple fact that one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough, and yes I've heard alot worse, but I hear it on a daily basis working with them that I just ignore it, most of the time they are blabbing in their own language with the 100's of Islamic people that come in weekly, I honestly hate my job and can't wait to get the f**k out of there so I can finally be away from these people, I would happily welcome them into the UK, aslong as they left their religion behind, as an Atheist I don't support religion as a whole, and so it should be known that I am only targetting Islam so much because of my own experience with Muslims I work with, see and meet on a daily basis.
I can't wait for UKIP to get into power, maybe the UK will end up like Australia and we won't have to lose our countries personality, or whats left of it.
You don't have to blame Islam for that! you work with few stupid Muslims doesn't mean that islam is like that what they do!.Have yo ever taken your time to read what Islam says and wants us to act upon?I am sure you never read that.If you guys hate Islam's certain rules then don't blame it simply leave it as Islam has given every people freedom to do anything.Next time don't blame religion if you don't know much about that.As you are atheist you are probably against every religion.So stop commenting as an atheist.
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Please explain how is islam violent.
Because there is a section in the Quran which says to slaughter all non-believers, yes the crusaders were violent, but that was in an age when violent battles were a daily occurrence and everyone was used to it, no matter what country it was, no I am not saying what the Crusaders did was acceptable, but Islam still continues to create more murders and generally mass murders than any other religion, 9/11 being the most prime example, and the probably thousands of other smaller scale incidents which have happend since then, in this day and age it is not acceptable in most countries, I do not and will not ever accept Islam in British society.
You don't have to blame Islam for that! you work with few stupid Muslims doesn't mean that islam is like that what they do!.Have yo ever taken your time to read what Islam says and wants us to act upon?I am sure you never read that.If you guys hate Islam's certain rules then don't blame it simply leave it as Islam has given every people freedom to do anything.Next time don't blame religion if you don't know much about that.As you are atheist you are probably against every religion.So stop commenting as an atheist.
Right so the hundreds of other Muslims I see on a weekly basis with similar views are all stupid aswell? I take it that means Muslims as a whole in the UK are stupid as they all share similar views, though of course there are those who don't, but the majority still do support violent views on things, atleast the ones I have met.
As an atheist I'm probably against every religion? NO, I'm only against the ones which prove to be as pathetic as they look and sound, I've never once heard a Catholic, or Christian (the 2 largest religions in the UK) say anything at all that was completely out of order, such as 'Death to America' and 'I would kill my wife if she left the house', and that is why I have no problem with them.
Stop commenting as an atheist? What? Shall I go become a Catholic and then come back to comment? Would that make a difference for you?
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Because there is a section in the Quran which says to slaughter all non-believers, yes the crusaders were violent, but that was in an age when violent battles were a daily occurrence and everyone was used to it, no matter what country it was, no I am not saying what the Crusaders did was acceptable, but Islam still continues to create more murders and generally mass murders than any other religion, 9/11 being the most prime example, and the probably thousands of other smaller scale incidents which have happend since then, in this day and age it is not acceptable in most countries
Have you read the Quran? (you don't have to be religious to read it) I doubt it, especially with such a hating attitude towards Islam in whole.
I do not and will not ever accept Islam in British society.
The last thing Islam needs is the acceptance of a narrow-minded person such as yourself.
As an atheist I'm probably against every religion? NO, I'm only against the ones which prove to be as pathetic as they look and sound, I've never once heard a Catholic, or Christian (the 2 largest religions in the UK) say anything at all that was completely out of order, such as 'Death to America' and 'I would kill my wife if she left the house', and that is why I have no problem with them.
Catholicism is part of Christianity.. but yet again, how would you know? You just sit around using the same examples over and over...
Tell me, where have you heard "Death to America" other than on TV?
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Tell me, where have you heard "Death to America" other than on TV?
Not exactly as I said it, but the guy in work has said similar things.
These are the type of people where I work, and as this video shows, all over the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNszLT855I
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Not exactly as I said it, but the guy in work has said similar things.
These are the type of people where I work, and as this video shows, all over the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNszLT855I
I refrained from watching, since it's just another video, and that's what the likes of you give, videos..
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Mikal, I'm sure you're a proud racist.
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Mikal, I'm sure you're a proud racist.
It isn't racist to practice rationality.
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It isn't racist to practice rationality.
But then again racism would sound perfectly rational to another racist, no? Not that I'm calling you racist, but everyone who hears/reads something they'd like to hear/read will take it as if it were "the word of God." Any opposing views/opinions to theirs wouldn't even be considered.
People who have never read the Qur'an or studied Islam will always pick out quotes that are completely out of context to fit into their argument of how Muslims are the only people in history that have committed acts of violence in their religions name. Same goes for when someone does something stupid under the banner of Islam and all the worlds Islamophobes blindly take the bait. There are misguided people in all walks of life why is it that millions should be held accountable for the work of few?
As with any serious global issue many people are just piecing together pieces of a jigsaw that don't match in order to create the image they want to see.
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Yes I agree. Saw it earlier on Facebook and it just feels so faked.
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The typical media :/
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I refrained from watching, since it's just another video, and that's what the likes of you give, videos..
Avoid the truth then, you refuse to watch a video which backs up what I have been saying in this topic, and say everything I say is a lie, and that not all Muslims are like it, but you will not watch something that proves you are wrong.
Mikal, I'm sure you're a proud racist.
Racist? Since when is a religion a race? I am not saying 'Pakistani people dont belong in the UK' I'm saying Islam doesn't belong in the UK, how can anyone deny what I have said about Islam after seeing the video I posted? A video which is made by the BBC, who is actually a very trusted TV company world wide, sure, the news may some times be what the government actually wants you to see (SOMETIMES) but what I posted is not news, it's a documentary.
You see, Muslims expect to be treated as equal in non-Islamic countries (even whilst calling us all evil, and saying we are going to hell), but if a Catholic or Christian went into a full on Islamic country and started setting up churches and getting followers, they'd soon have acid or even bombs thrown at them, like the 2 British women on that African island who were doing CHARITY WORK in a Christian school, they had acid thrown at them by 2 Islamic followers, and 1 of the women is now scarred for life, is that what you call a civilized religion which deserves to be treated as equal? To me it is not, and I'd be happy to start a civil war to remove what in my eyes is a plague, please by all means be Islamic in your own countries, but the UK, and many other non-Islamic countries are not the place for it, we extremely disagree with the oppression of women, and major anti-Atheist/Non Islamic talk that is chanted such as in the video I posted, and we do not want that, I would not go to an Islamic country with a megaphone and start shouting something which offends the countries native population, so why do it to us? It is disrespectful and vulgar, I would happily brick anyone I saw doing it.
People who have never read the Qur'an or studied Islam will always pick out quotes that are completely out of context to fit into their argument of how Muslims are the only people in history that have committed acts of violence in their religions name.
What the crusaders did was wrong, and thats coming from someone who's family has a Catholic background, though I'm atheist, so that proves you wrong.
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Not exactly as I said it, but the guy in work has said similar things.
These are the type of people where I work, and as this video shows, all over the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNszLT855I
You always pick and choose what you want to display, otherwise you would show EDL at the last part of the documentary
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You always pick and choose what you want to display, otherwise you would show EDL at the last part of the documentary
Why would I show the EDL? I am not racist, I just do not like Islam.
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So some people don't like Muslims, many hate Christians, and others detest the Welsh. Let's just agree that the world is a messed-up place and humanity as a whole is to blame for it.