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Title: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Huntsman on September 13, 2013, 04:27:16 pm
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/48921/russian-political-scientist-if-nato-attacks-syria-russia-should-occupy-baltic-states-201348921/

“Previously I have suggested that if NATO attacks Syria, we need to more our military forces to the Caucasus region. However, now the situation has changed, Russia has to impact there, where it will have a clear strategic advantage, i.e. the Baltic States,” claims the Russian political scientist, Mikhail Aleksandrov.

As the head of the Baltic States department of the CIS research institute, which is partially founded by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, writes in his blog, Russia must clearly show to the West that in case of aggression against Syria, they will have to pay a dear price.

Aleksandrov also writes in his blog that Azerbaijan made enough of reverence to Russia, so it can be “left at rest”.

“On the one hand, Armenia clearly turned towards the West and is no longer a reliable ally. Its behaviour in the conditions of a new global crisis becomes unpredictable. On the other hand, Azerbaijan has taken steps to get close to Russia. Ilham Aliyev probably has given the guarantees to Vladimir Putin that the West will not be able to use the territory of Azerbaijan while preparing operations against Iran and Russia. Under these conditions, the communication of Russia and Iran near the Caspian Sea will not be threatened and Azerbaijan can generally be left at rest,” writes the political scientist.

Therefore, according to Aleksandrov, it is time for Russia to turn to the countries where it has a strategic advantage.

“Russia must clearly show to the West that for the aggression against Syria, they will have to pay dearly. So, Russia has to impact there, where it has a clear strategic advantage, i.e. the Baltic States. As in the Caribbean crisis, Russia has to raise the dilemma for the West: if you are attacking Syria in violation of the international law, we occupy the Baltic States. (Then, in 1962, the Soviet Union threatened to occupy West Berlin and take the Black Sea’s straits zone).

Estonians and Latvians would meet Russians with flowers

In the Russian political analysts’ opinion, to introduce the Russian force in the Baltic countries is quite easy.

“I think that the Russian forces could enter the Baltic States with minimal damages or perhaps even without damages. Unless someone by his own stupidity would fall under the tanks, as it was in 1991. Moreover, I think that half of Estonia’s and Latvia’s population would meet the Russian military with the flowers, as it was in 1940.”

NOTE: I see that Russia haven't changed their ways at all.. Still spreading the communist propaganda... First, Lithuanians never greeted Russians by flowers, they greeted them by gun. Second, f**king people were killed by Soviet Soldiers and tanks on 1991 while trying to defend their freedom, and this dickhead whoever he is makes such remarks.

Aleksandrov also offers some other, to put it mildly, controversial ways of how Russia could demonstrate its power to the West.

“Before the start of the crisis, Russia should hold a demonstration of nuclear explosion on Novaya Zemlya / New Earth [an archipelago in the Arctic Ocean in the north of Russia and the extreme northeast of Europe]. This would show the seriousness of our intentions to the West and the readiness to use a nuclear weapon if necessary. Once again I emphasise: the only language to speak with the United States is the language of force,” continues Aleksandrov in his blog.

So he offers Russia to respond as soon as possible and to strengthen its military force at the border of the Baltic States.

“Already now we have to mobilise our forces near the borders of Latvia and Estonia, as well as in the Kaliningrad region and by the Baltic Sea. It may cool down the hot heads in Washington D.C.,” suggests the head of Baltic States department.

However, Sweden has responded that they're ready to react and support the baltic states in case of a Russian attack, NATO are ready to mobilize their units near the Baltic Border.. This is getting tense and might escalate into world war III...
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Cofiliano on September 13, 2013, 07:28:04 pm
Be real.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Borus on September 13, 2013, 07:32:09 pm
Pure BS.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Huntsman on September 13, 2013, 08:26:47 pm
Pure BS.

There are more than several sources of this, and it also appeared on TV, latest Russian agression towards Lithuania in general is not acceptable. Your prime minister yelled saying "We'll destroy you all of Baltic Scum".

Be real.

Excuse me?
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Dolfagr on September 14, 2013, 11:37:12 am
Russia would rather attack Scandinavia for the Swedish Iron and Norwegian Oil, and to claim revenge for their disgraceful defeat by the Finns back in the day. I don't see any reason why Russia would attack the Baltics, not even to send a message to the West. What they're causing is a psychological war, and it seems to be working.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Mario_Rinna on September 14, 2013, 03:39:19 pm
Your prime minister yelled saying "We'll destroy you all of Baltic Scum".
Proof link, please.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Yenkee on September 14, 2013, 03:44:13 pm
Russia would rather attack Scandinavia for the Swedish Iron and Norwegian Oil, and to claim revenge for their disgraceful defeat by the Finns back in the day. I don't see any reason why Russia would attack the Baltics, not even to send a message to the West. What they're causing is a psychological war, and it seems to be working.
Russia want to get all world over them , but they are not smart , like alway's just a fake words !
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Huntsman on September 14, 2013, 08:32:52 pm
Russia would rather attack Scandinavia for the Swedish Iron and Norwegian Oil, and to claim revenge for their disgraceful defeat by the Finns back in the day. I don't see any reason why Russia would attack the Baltics, not even to send a message to the West. What they're causing is a psychological war, and it seems to be working.

They have a reason, because we basically started the collapse of the USSR and so on..

Proof link, please.

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Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, has said that the Baltic countries would be occupied or destroyed since they dared to support the intervention of the Western countries in Syria

My bad, he aint your prime minister, still, he's one of the most influential politicians and Putins ally.

http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/baltic_states_cis/?doc=80101
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/49685/nato-chief-urges-russia-to-distance-from-zhirinovskys-statements-about-baltic-occupation-201349685/
http://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/news/press-releases/2013/september/06-3/
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Cofiliano on September 14, 2013, 10:24:58 pm
Russia doesn't give a f**k. Understand that.

They've got oil and gas on which Europe is depending since no one else has the amounts Europe needs to keep people from freezing to death, their factories closed, and their whole economy stop working. That's why Germany has more then 'polite' relationship when it comes to Russia, and avoids any sorts of political debate, confrotation or anything similiar, even when the USA is pushing them into it.

Stop attempting to create an 'evil Russia' atmosphere, cause those who are doing it, are just trying to find any dirth possible on Russia, since they can't attack them for invasion on anyone last 50 years, unlike the USA who made like 10 invasions and wars minimum last 20 years around the globe.
That's not Russia style, they keep their own territory completly protected and safe, got political influence mostly cause of their oil and gas reservs and ofc nuclear weapons, and they dont give a f**k about countries around them, until those countries starts acting hostile toward Russia and its people, like Georgia did few years back.
If any of what I wrote was untrue, Russia would already have 10-15 maybe even 20 attacks on other countries last 2 decades. Did any of you ever in your life hear "Russian army lounch an attack on  _______(put any countries name in the wolrd)" ? Ofc you didn't.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Kirgiz on September 14, 2013, 10:48:42 pm
and to claim revenge for their disgraceful defeat by the Finns back in the day.

Nope. They're at really good relations now.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Kirgiz on September 14, 2013, 10:49:37 pm

My bad, he aint your prime minister, still, he's one of the most influential politicians and Putins ally.

>Vladimir Zhirinovsky
>Putins ally

Okay, too much bullshit. Moderators please lock this topic, this is DEFINITELY a troll. He doesn't even know what he speaks.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Dolfagr on September 15, 2013, 03:41:54 am
Nope. They're at really good relations now.


I am not disagreeing.


Zhirinovksy is an enemy of Putin and always criticizes him in case you didn't know and one of the first to go against Putins return as president.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Kirgiz on September 15, 2013, 02:56:46 pm
I am not disagreeing.

That would be politically and strategically without any benefits at all, in case you still insist on Russia revenging Finland

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hirinovksy is an enemy of Putin and always criticizes him in case you didn't know and one of the first to go against Putins return as president.

Precisely. This all feels like a troll.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Mario_Rinna on September 15, 2013, 06:15:51 pm
Of course, Russian PM didn't insult your country. That was kind of obvious.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky and his "political party" are not enemies of Putin, but are simply imitating opposition; Kremlin pays them for that. So, everything they (LDPR) say is meant to sound ridiculous and make Putin look better than his "opponents." Even if you doubt this, you should know that Mr. Zhirinovsky has no authority to start any wars. He's an actor.

Mikhail Aleksandrov only posted his personal opinion in some blog; he is not in power either. I fail to see how his ignorance is actually propaganda.

Could you please explain why would Russia invade the Baltics? I myself don't see how it can be beneficial.

Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: ElMartu on September 16, 2013, 06:58:53 pm
You provided lithuanian sources

Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: [WS]Jacob on September 16, 2013, 07:04:50 pm
I believe this is totally false. Russia is not the one who's been threatening, it's America. If we should be worried of anyone it needs to be America not Russia.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Huntsman on September 16, 2013, 08:00:39 pm
You provided lithuanian sources

Because international media doesn't show any interest on regions such as Baltics..

I believe this is totally false. Russia is not the one who's been threatening, it's America. If we should be worried of anyone it needs to be America not Russia.

What are you even talking about..? Are you implying US are threatening Lithuania?
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Mikal on September 16, 2013, 09:11:01 pm
What is a Baltic?
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Mario_Rinna on September 16, 2013, 10:11:48 pm
Well you tell me, at first Zhirinovsky threatens that he will "destroy Latvia", then he calls the Baltics "the scum that will soon be destroyed" and then some politicians goes around encouraging Russia to attack Lithuania, throwing dirt on us and showing no respect for the victims that fell under their murderous tanks in 1991 13th of June. You decide what to think of it.
I think Zhirinovksy is a clown and that you are overreacting. You must be very lucky if your country doesn't have similar politicians.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: [WS]Jacob on September 16, 2013, 10:16:02 pm
What are you even talking about..? Are you implying US are threatening Lithuania?
No the US is threatening Syria.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Phil on September 16, 2013, 10:35:04 pm
Guys, please stop being offensive to one another. Certain posts removed.
Title: Re: Russia threatens the Baltics if US attacks Syria
Post by: Huntsman on September 17, 2013, 01:24:11 pm
What is a Baltic?

Something your western mind will never be able to process anyways.
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