/giveweapon id command just like in 2011

[Talya_taya]

Those from 2011 can remember we had a "/giveweapon id" command. Its being such a bad problem when someone crash with weapon, since weapons are not saved, and you may need to get back weapons but cant because you re not in a fine situation, neither if you re too far away from weapon shops.

Also proposing /giveweapon id command not to be limited with bullets:

Player1 one gives Beretta to the Player2
[Player2 gets full bullet count]
[Player1 wont lose anything]

Since weapons are free I think there is no problem to do that also. Since crashes take away too much bullets away from us T_T.

Please share if you have a different solution to this problem, dont forget to think by every side of it.

[Void]

Also proposing /giveweapon id command not to be limited with bullets:

Player1 one gives Beretta to the Player2
[Player2 gets full bullet count]
[Player1 wont lose anything]

That is a rather odd situation. You give away a weapon and it technically multiplies? Players would turn into walking Ammunations and the abuse that can follow this is unimaginable.

You give, you lose sounds like something plausible. Nonetheless, I support such a thing.

[Talya_taya]

That is a rather odd situation. You give away a weapon and it technically multiplies? Players would turn into walking Ammunations and the abuse that can follow this is unimaginable.

You give, you lose sounds like something plausible. Nonetheless, I support such a thing.

The client crashes are theirself odd situation. Against an odd situation, I had to suggest an odd solution. :P 1 crash as being armed is enough to ruin your day, it just has to crash on the right time... Which is not something that hard do be... I know this idea is too odd and in no way I would support it either, but well,  when its ruining some of my roleplays. It just ends up bad... 

I suggest this idea because as I know , there isnt a project about weapons to be something that can be saveable on account[Not sure even if it can be, and if it could be, would it be?]... Which is another odd situation. :P

[Void]

The client crashes are theirself odd situation. Against an odd situation, I had to suggest an odd solution. :P 1 crash as being armed is enough to ruin your day, it just has to crash on the right time... Which is not something that hard do be... I know this idea is too odd and in no way I would support it either, but well,  when its ruining some of my roleplays. It just ends up bad... 

I suggest this idea because as I know , there isnt a project about weapons to be something that can be saveable on account[Not sure even if it can be, and if it could be, would it be?]... Which is another odd situation. :P

The point of my post was to provide a good example on the outcome of eventual implementation of your command, which is:

You give away a weapon and it technically multiplies? Players would turn into walking Ammunations

Do you not notice the weight of that sentence? I see more than a thousand ways to misuse this, another thousand more people getting into misunderstandings and three thousand more people getting banned over a situation involving this.

I support the idea of being able to give away your weapons, but to counter your proposal, I suggest that the Ammunation limit increases a bit so that you can easily share half of your arsenal with your mates. I understand you might believe that the current limit is rather low, so perhaps you can get 150 bullets and give 75 bullets to your mate let's say. Most shootouts and/or action ends with spare bullets and early kills anyway. Maybe that would satisfy the concept? Let me know of your ideas.

[Talya_taya]

The point of my post was to provide a good example on the outcome of eventual implementation of your command, which is:
Do you not notice the weight of that sentence? I see more than a thousand ways to misuse this, another thousand more people getting into misunderstandings and three thousand more people getting banned over a situation involving this.

I support the idea of being able to give away your weapons, but to counter your proposal, I suggest that the Ammunation limit increases a bit so that you can easily share half of your arsenal with your mates. I understand you might believe that the current limit is rather low, so perhaps you can get 150 bullets and give 75 bullets to your mate let's say. Most shootouts and/or action ends with spare bullets and early kills anyway. Maybe that would satisfy the concept? Let me know of your ideas.

I thought about ammo problem but since the limits are exact like in Single Player, I dont think the limit can be changed in anyway, but if its possible ofcourse doing it a bit higher limit is better than unlimited ammo, question is; "Can the limit be changed to some other number?"

Because since shotguns are the only weapons that are easy to use, with 80 ammo, you cant share it with some other, well okay with another guy you can, but if you have 3 4 guys near you(when thinking that crash is affecting people near the actually crashing person) which only 1 or 2 will survive the crash, 20 30 bullets wont be enough to anybody :P

Not even talking about non-shotguns since I doubt that there is more than 1/1000 of the population can even land 1 bullet on their enemy. 

[Void]

Because since shotguns are the only weapons that are easy to use, with 80 ammo, you cant share it with some other, well okay with another guy you can, but if you have 3 4 guys near you(when thinking that crash is affecting people near the actually crashing person) which only 1 or 2 will survive the crash, 20 30 bullets wont be enough to anybody :P

Taking in accord that even 4-5 bullets of that shotgun can kill someone. As I proposed above, increasing the limit of deployable ammunition would solve this issue (To a reasonable 150 or so) if such a thing is possible, that is. Not to mention this is also influenced by role play. I understand that when you shoot, you shoot to kill but not every one of you, let's say ten gang members, need to have the same weapon. Our biker club for example has a shotgunner, a pistol man and a sniper rifle expert.

[Talya_taya]

Taking in accord that even 4-5 bullets of that shotgun can kill someone. As I proposed above, increasing the limit of deployable ammunition would solve this issue (To a reasonable 150 or so) if such a thing is possible, that is. Not to mention this is also influenced by role play. I understand that when you shoot, you shoot to kill but not every one of you, let's say ten gang members, need to have the same weapon. Our biker club for example has a shotgunner, a pistol man and a sniper rifle expert.

Let people think what they want to use , ehm by the way I thought I answered your "same weapon" comment already:

Because since shotguns are the only weapons that are easy to use, with 80 ammo, you cant share it with some other, well okay with another guy you can, but if you have 3 4 guys near you(when thinking that crash is affecting people near the actually crashing person) which only 1 or 2 will survive the crash, 20 30 bullets wont be enough to anybody :P

Considering anybody who has shotgun, unless its a really long range[which cant because the sync wont let a high distance to land on enemy and simply gonna show the bullets landing on terrain, will use shotgun so... but yes u re right 10 ppl with 10 same weapons are really looking bad, I try to use different weapons as much as I can use but you know when there is a shotgun near you, its harder than usual also, so the fight ends up with Shotgun vs Shotgun. But weapons and the weapon preferences are not about this topic.

[Void]

Let people think what they want to use , ehm by the way I thought I answered your "same weapon" comment already:

Considering anybody who has shotgun, unless its a really long range[which cant because the sync wont let a high distance to land on enemy and simply gonna show the bullets landing on terrain, will use shotgun so... but yes u re right 10 ppl with 10 same weapons are really looking bad, I try to use different weapons as much as I can use but you know when there is a shotgun near you, its harder than usual also, so the fight ends up with Shotgun vs Shotgun. But weapons and the weapon preferences are not about this topic.

The ammunition limit is a mean and having a powerful gun is the destination. Of course 80 bullets won't be enough if everyone wants to have the same weapon. That is the reason I brought up weapon choices, because it affects your thinking in this proposal.
Bottom line is, players cannot be turned into walking Ammunations.

[Talya_taya]

The ammunition limit is a mean and having a powerful gun is the destination. Of course 80 bullets won't be enough if everyone wants to have the same weapon. That is the reason I brought up weapon choices, because it affects your thinking in this proposal.
Bottom line is, players cannot be turned into walking Ammunations.

Bottom line's solution is to limit ammo, which if can be done, I support to be done, but if cant be done, I dont think it will harm people much... Someone who wants weapons can always get it, and ammo is not a problem for a single person but if it become divided into 2 3 people.

[din]

Good idea , may i know also why weapons arent permanent (after ending the bullets of course)?

[Armelin]

Just to answer this old question, yes its possible to save the weapons and make this command.
Let's wait for the services go back to normal and work a little more on our stability and then I can add the test code for it.