[Unbanned] Paulie_Galante banned by Andeey_Morrison

[Mikhail Zakhaev]

I heard you changed/fixed the scripts yesterday. How convenient, impeccable timing. Also, how hard would it have been to post this while you were fixing it: 'Keybinds are allowed, but not for jobs (criminal or legal).'

Anyway, Tony asked Teddy about the keybind situation yesterday, and this is the response he got:

Tony Sforza: As you probably noticed by now I've got banned for using keybinds during the night to cook meth, I'm almost sure that when on TS it was asked if letting the autohotkey program running during the night would be fine you replied claiming that it would be fine, can you confirm this with me please?

Teddy: Si, nothing against the rules, is a bit of a b*tch move

Look, all I'm saying is this; if you don't want people to cross the line (and I'm not saying that I knowingly did), make sure it's not blurry as f*ck next time.

[Devin]

Teddy may have said something to you regarding automation of cooking, then again he doesn't represent the entire HQ team.

Sure automate the script for your own use, go ahead and farm for money because that's what everyone is here for right? It gets to a point where it is pathetic. 8 hours of cooking while AFK? Come on.


I assume you're looking to be unbanned yet are pulling the same attitude across as Sforza members did on the release of RS5 because some objects weren't mapped in.
You blame HQ for your actions which was cooking meth for 8 hours straight while AFK? Because we say keybinds are allowed?
Go ahead, continue to throw an attitude across as if you are above others and have done nothing wrong, see where it gets you.

All you had to do was to have some manners and this could have been over with sooner but you chose to blame others for your own actions.

[Mikhail Zakhaev]

Teddy may have said something to you regarding automation of cooking, then again he doesn't represent the entire HQ team.

I get that, but do we have to ask every member of HQ before we should believe anything? Don't you guys discuss this kind of stuff before handing out answers? Who are we supposed to believe here?

Sure automate the script for your own use, go ahead and farm for money because that's what everyone is here for right? It gets to a point where it is pathetic. 8 hours of cooking while AFK? Come on.

1 minute, 1 hour, 8 hours. What does it matter? We were told it was allowed, so we did it. You call it pathetic, I call it wanting to restart Sforza and not feeling like grinding for weeks upon weeks. Almost every criminal group in the server was doing it, it was confirmed to be allowed, so why wouldn't we?

I assume you're looking to be unbanned yet are pulling the same attitude across as Sforza members did on the release of RS5 because some objects weren't mapped in.

Yes, I'd like to be unbanned, I just won't agree to everything you say just to get there. Also, I wasn't in any way related to Sforza back then, so how exactly is this relevant? Sounds to me like you're just generalizing and sh*tting on a group.

You blame HQ for your actions which was cooking meth for 8 hours straight while AFK? Because we say keybinds are allowed?
Go ahead, continue to throw an attitude across as if you are above others and have done nothing wrong, see where it gets you.

I don't think that we broke any rules regarding keybinds, so as far as I'm concerned, yes, this mess is on HQ. Also, you call it having an attitude, I call it being honest and calling people out on their (what I believe to be) bullsh*t. I tried being polite, still am, but when I have to repeat myself 20 times and people still don't seem to get it, yeah, it gets frustrating.

All you had to do was to have some manners and this could have been over with sooner but you chose to blame others for your own actions.

The first thing I did was admit and apoligize for the things I felt I did do wrong. What about you? All I've seen so far is people (well, just staff and HQ) blaming and pointing fingers at me regarding this keybind fiasco.

[Teddy]

I standby my statement that doing so was not a violation of the rules. I cannot be held accountable for a rule being put into place to allow keybinds while not limiting certain use cases. In my perspective, more than "you can now use keybinds" should've been covered. We know our player's habits and it should've been assumed to think of more appropriate implementations of permitting keybinds.

I would recommend we lift the ban in this case and apply an update to the rule prohibiting use of keybinds for botting purposes or merely cases in which the player is not actively attending or performing action.

[eymas]

While we assumed common sense to be applied in this matter. If you wish to put it in that way then I understand where you are coming from.
I'll support your motion, but let's wait for Devin's opinion as well.

See it as a message to us all that we need to consider and note all possibilities and what we should do against those if they end up malicious, most of those rules we have are that vulnerable.

[Devin]

The attitude displayed in this unban request towards staff is unacceptable, even if it was an accidental ban for any reason the attitude shown isn't necessary or appreciated.

There's a difference between bringing your point across and unnecessary behaviour. This comes down to one person telling a person something and then failing to communicate with others to tell them it is allowed or has been "handled". Feel free to write up a list of rules if you feel it is necessary to define every possible exploitable aspect when it comes to playing.

[Mikhail Zakhaev]

The attitude displayed in this unban request towards staff is unacceptable, even if it was an accidental ban for any reason the attitude shown isn't necessary or appreciated.

There's a difference between bringing your point across and unnecessary behaviour.

Let's get one thing straight, my intention was never to be disrespectful towards either staff or HQ. Yes, I may have been a bit snarky and annoyed at times, but I could say the same for you. Do you think that this is acceptable behaviour for a community leader:

I assume you're looking to be unbanned yet are pulling the same attitude across as Sforza members did on the release of RS5 because some objects weren't mapped in.

You attacked a group that I had no connection with at that moment. It was also irrelevant to this unban request.

Feel free to write up a list of rules if you feel it is necessary to define every possible exploitable aspect when it comes to playing.

I already did, at least in regard to the whole keybind situation (though I prefer Teddy's idea):

Also, how hard would it have been to post this while you were fixing it: 'Keybinds are allowed, but not for jobs (criminal or legal).'

Look, I have already admitted that I did break a clear rule, which was ignoring roleplay. I also said that I won't do it again.

I didn't roleplay, that's the only rule (that we know for sure is bannable) I broke. And even that was just a mistake, one I obviously won't make again.

If that's not enough for you, then I really don't know what is.

[Teddy]

After some discussions, we will count the time so far as time served for the refusing to roleplay by proxy of fully automated keybinds.

Do standby for an announcement regarding a change to our keybinding policy as this type of behavior will render a legitimate ban in the future.

Unbanned.