SA:MP admin restructure

[Gandalf]

Yes, let the all the admins become 'BFFL's and give the server more chance to moan and whine(as a lack of answering reports).

Admins do not have to be friends, just be able to work as a team. And my guess is that the number of reports answered would be a lot lower is admins were fighting in admin chat instead of looking what happens on server.

[JDC]

I can relate with many things in the above post, particularly the one about asking for a ban on a certain hacker many times only to be made to wait because Lvl3 Admins are either AFK, "busy" with something else, or talking about how some Admin pulled a Tai the week before.

I have to admire your English skill, Violet... not everyone is capable of bringing out their thoughts into one post the way you are.

[Boozman]

I have to admire your English skill, Violet... not everyone is capable of bringing out their thoughts into one post the way you are.

I have to agree with JDC.
And Violet, i respect you alot. And you will be missed.
There were many instances where i needed administration help and you were the first to respond. I also liked playing with you in general when you wernt doing admin work.

Good Luck in the Future Violet, Hope to see you soon.

[Cutt3r]

Although I may/may not have been present on the situation you describe where level 3+ are "AFK" or busy or things, current and future admins may please note that it is best to use apm instead of admin chat when such important matters are to be dealt with. If after requesting on admin chat, you do not get a response in 10 seconds, use apm. You may not know the flooding of chat for certain admins, hence adviced.

[Andy]

Although I may/may not have been present on the situation you describe where level 3+ are "AFK" or busy or things, current and future admins may please note that it is best to use apm instead of admin chat when such important matters are to be dealt with. If after requesting on admin chat, you do not get a response in 10 seconds, use apm. You may not know the flooding of chat for certain admins, hence adviced.

True. Many admins get flooded which lead them to miss few comments / requests over admin chat.

[Violet]

I have to agree with JDC.
And Violet, i respect you alot. And you will be missed.
There were many instances where i needed administration help and you were the first to respond. I also liked playing with you in general when you wernt doing admin work.

Good Luck in the Future Violet, Hope to see you soon.

Heh. I think the person who I am talking about knows who he is. A few days back I was reported to the community email for abusing my admin commands because I was the only admin responding to a call from a player to be teleported. I was just as misunderstood by that player, as misunderstood by some in HQ.

This is an extract of email that the reporter received of the complaint's result.

You were anxious about not being responded to, you felt you were being ignored and your frustration is understandable. However, the very person you're complaining about is in fact the only admin who did respond to you, you began complaining in main chat about being ignored so Violet informed you that only level 3+ admins can help you. Violet was showing you that you weren't being ignored, but he was just unable to assist. You then continued to complain in main chat about admins so Violet warned you, you then began to complain about that too so Violet kicked you, informing you that if you continued you would be temporarily banned. You then returned to the game and began to send PMs to Violet telling him he would be in big trouble and using laughing emoticons so Violet then issued you with another warning for provoking, despite him saying that you would in fact be tempbanned if you continued. When I spoke to Violet about this last response, he said although he had told you he would tempban you it was clear you were getting more and more annoyed and he didn't want to upset you further, but instead give you an opportunity to calm done yourself.

My conclusion to this is that although the frustration at not being responded to is quite understandable, continuous complaints in main chat will eventually bring admin intervention as it did in your case. Violet's approach was to explain to you why he couldn't personally help and only after you continued to complain in main chat did he issue a warning. Instead of heeding the warning you kept complaining in main chat and were kicked. Even after warning you that you would be tempbanned if you continued, when you did carry on Violet took the lenient approach of issuing a second warning. From investigating this matter, Violet has no case to answer and no action will be taken against him. My advice to you is that if you should find yourself in a similar situation, curb your anger and pay attention to whatever warnings are issued to you.

[SugarD]

Can you give me those 10 names who discuss their demotion with you in that way, so I will be sure they will not pass the new round if they will apply again...

Aragorn it's not meant in a bad way. They feel betrayed because of the work they did. They supported the restructuring because they honestly believed they were doing their jobs correctly, and were falsely punished for it. They aren't against what happened, they just feel like shit because of it.

[Gandalf]

Violet, thanks for confirming the reason you did not get positive votes.

Trying to show the rest of the team as rule breaking abusers in order to emphasize your own 'qualities' and giving out confidential information has just disqualified you from a future admin position.

Topic locked to avoid other valued members making similar mistakes.