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Reply #15 on: September 18, 2011, 11:16:26 am
Uhm we can keep the system we already have (the normal one, who allows you to turn the engine off while leaving the car, if you want to) but an /engine to turn it on/off while inside the car would be very nice.
That's the issue. The Server Owners won't allow it because they see it as forced RP since you have to start the engine to drive, and to only make the command state the text to solve this would be pointless since it'd just be a shortcut for a /me message, hence why it was removed from SA:MP completely.



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Reply #16 on: September 18, 2011, 11:20:13 am
That's the issue. The Server Owners won't allow it because they see it as forced RP since you have to start the engine to drive, and to only make the command state the text to solve this would be pointless since it'd just be a shortcut for a /me message, hence why it was removed from SA:MP completely.

Yea you can RP it with /me anyway but the engine remains on ^^ . Anyway you don't have to use /engine to start the car, it would start as usual and turn off or remain on when you leave it as usual. I'm just saying that this command could be used while driving..

RP isn't forced this way..

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Reply #17 on: September 20, 2011, 07:07:50 pm
Hi fellas,

/engine has worked for a while, but the problem is IVMP has engine health and damage disabled because of the client - so we cant use it :(

Should be noted though that you can use it for roleplay :)

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Reply #18 on: September 20, 2011, 09:12:27 pm
/engine has worked for a while, but the problem is IVMP has engine health and damage disabled because of the client - so we cant use it :(
As far as I know, that should be changing in the next update. They are separating the functions for Engine Health and Vehicle Health, so I believe they should work at that point.



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Reply #19 on: September 20, 2011, 09:15:47 pm
As far as I know, that should be changing in the next update. They are separating the functions for Engine Health and Vehicle Health, so I believe they should work at that point.

Indeed, the command exists but can't work at the moment. It will work in the next client version.

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Reply #20 on: September 20, 2011, 10:40:02 pm
The issue with this is it forces roleplay on people, requiring them to start the engine before driving away, which is against what the Server Owners want, as stated in the SA:MP topics about it.
No no no..you dont get it...the /engine is only for rp and stuff....so this wont effect when you enter or exit. When you enter it, it will start automaticly. And when you hold F and leave the vehicle you will turn off the engine and leave the car. BUT this adds when you are in the car and you dont wanna wait outside in the rain and you can turn off your engine. This also does a /me turn on engine, /me turns off engine. This will not be forceing anybody to rp.



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Reply #21 on: September 21, 2011, 12:02:50 am
No no no..you dont get it...the /engine is only for rp and stuff....so this wont effect when you enter or exit. When you enter it, it will start automaticly. And when you hold F and leave the vehicle you will turn off the engine and leave the car. BUT this adds when you are in the car and you dont wanna wait outside in the rain and you can turn off your engine. This also does a /me turn on engine, /me turns off engine. This will not be forceing anybody to rp.
Requiring you to type a command to start the engine is forcing a user to roleplay starting the vehicle to drive away, hence why the Server Owners disallowed it. Even if you don't leave the vehicle, it's still forcing you, yourself, to roleplay the engine's starting and shutting off before you can drive away.



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Reply #22 on: September 21, 2011, 01:49:50 pm
Requiring you to type a command to start the engine is forcing a user to roleplay starting the vehicle to drive away, hence why the Server Owners disallowed it. Even if you don't leave the vehicle, it's still forcing you, yourself, to roleplay the engine's starting and shutting off before you can drive away.

You didn't get it..

There's no RP forcing.

1. You enter a car without starting the engine because it turns automatically on as usual.
2. You leave the car turning off the engine (holding F) or without it, as usual.

If you want to RP you can use /engine while inside the car to turn it on or off...

Where's the forcing?

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Reply #23 on: September 21, 2011, 03:54:35 pm
You didn't get it..

There's no RP forcing.

1. You enter a car without starting the engine because it turns automatically on as usual.
2. You leave the car turning off the engine (holding F) or without it, as usual.

If you want to RP you can use /engine while inside the car to turn it on or off...

Where's the forcing?
I told you already, I'm just repeating what the Server Owners stated.



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Reply #24 on: September 21, 2011, 04:02:31 pm
I told you already, I'm just repeating what the Server Owners stated.

Oh my god . . . You didn't even understood what we're trying to explain you . . . how can you just write "it's against the vision" each time you don't get something?

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Reply #25 on: September 21, 2011, 04:32:09 pm
Oh my god . . . You didn't even understood what we're trying to explain you . . . how can you just write "it's against the vision" each time you don't get something?
For the tenth time, the Server Owners said it. I'm just repeating their statement!



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Reply #26 on: September 21, 2011, 04:35:22 pm
For the tenth time, the Server Owners said it. I'm just repeating their statement!

And for the tenth time too, I'm repeating you didn't unerstand. So let's drop it!

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Reply #27 on: September 21, 2011, 04:41:04 pm
And for the tenth time too, I'm repeating you didn't unerstand. So let's drop it!
I understand fine. I will drop it if you wish, but as I said, I'm not giving my personal opinion. I'm simply restating exactly what they said about the same scenario you were talking about. I'm not against your idea, I'm just repeating something.



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Reply #28 on: September 21, 2011, 05:00:11 pm
I understand fine. I will drop it if you wish, but as I said, I'm not giving my personal opinion. I'm simply restating exactly what they said about the same scenario you were talking about. I'm not against your idea, I'm just repeating something.

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To be locked. Command exists (will work in next client version).

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Reply #29 on: September 21, 2011, 05:28:39 pm
Okay, thanks...



 


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