War ?

[JDC]

Even if history is written by the victors, I don't think there's any doubt that Hitler was the scourge of the earth. His policies condemned many people to death for no reason other than who they were. I don't see how by 'cleansing' people who don't have blonde hair and blue eyes it would have set the world on the road to a higher potential. They are just the crazed thoughts of one man and his followers.

Exactly.

But the power of the victors can extend so far into shaping history, both past and present, that it can brainwash you into turning a blind eye to atrocities, or even into thinking that they were done for the greater good. For instance, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed / affected millions of innocents, but as it was carried out by the Allies (the victors) the world was made to think that it was the absolute best move to end the war.

Take a look at the world's sheep today, who are content under the corrupt system that the victors have maintained so vigorously. There are other ways than fear to manipulate the thinking of the masses, such as pleasure and the media.

[Mr. Goobii]

My belief is that history is written by the victims. All wars is not written by the victory team of the war. Like the Vietnam war, USA won but who have written the history? I have only heard how the bad guys are the Capitalists that trying to destroy the Communist empire which the greed...

[Petarda]

History is written by the victors. Do you seriously think that Nazi Germany would waste tons of bullets and gas on captured people that were working for them even if those resources were more than needed?

Like the Vietnam war, USA won but who have written the history?

USA lost and the only people who believe that USA was good in that war are Americans, rest of the world knows the truth.

[Mr. Goobii]

Hmm, no

[Huntsman]

He was the one that though it was impossible to create nuclear weapons without having the multiply power to make a bomb out of it. The hero that found that it was possible to create a chain reaction was Leó Szilárd. Who took contact with Albert Einstein and told him, Leó later wrote a letter and gave it to Albert Einstein, Albert than posted it in the name of himself so the President of the United States(Franklin Roosevelt) would listen. He approved and they later on started the Manhattan Project.

How would the world have been if Nazi-Germany had got the technology before USA? I think we would already fight with sticks and stones if that was the case.. 

It wasnt what I meant. It was the thing that the person I quoted was claiming a quote by Albert Einstein without giving the old man any credit ;(

[Jubin]

USA lost and the only people who believe that USA was good in that war are Americans, rest of the world knows the truth.

Actually Republic of Vietnam lost. Occupied by North Vietnam.

[Dean.]

[JDC]

My belief is that history is written by the victims. All wars is not written by the victory team of the war. Like the Vietnam war, USA won but who have written the history? I have only heard how the bad guys are the Capitalists that trying to destroy the Communist empire which the greed...

The USA never won the Vietnam War, nor the War on Terror. Two wars which until today are seen as failures and massive wastes of resources on their part, claiming more casualties than any real successes.

Sometimes, 'Murrica can't have it all.

[Husky]

Ukraine is living in their own virtual world, blaming Russian for everything.

Russia does not need Europe, if the war was imminent then we could have started it with the first provocations thrown in our direction.

The UN council is useless, everyone is just reading the same document that seems to have been passed around...

Everything Russia did that the western media is using to stir up negative emotions, was done under international law and within regulations that were in place.

There are much more parties involved than you think and it's not all so black and white.

Yes there is propaganda from every direction and with various intensity but have different targets, and yes Russia is also using propaganda but that's just because it was the only way to answer and the country is already in a bad state we don't need more depression. The surge of nationals and trolls it's an unwanted and expected effect, but that was inevitable.

Ukraine's army is not organized, they don't have a plan, they are being sent in groups and eventually abandoned in strategic positions, some of their deaths were just where they wanted them to die.

The ACTUAL people in the country were being ignored, they tried to make their voice heard but with no results.. now they are fleeing the country, while Ukraine calls that kidnapping..

The funny thing here is that Ukraine made this Maidan, which was to get rid of the oligarchs in the Gov. at the end they elected one of the most powerful oligarchs, and hope to sign the EU agreement.........

There is not going to be a war if in the worst scenario there will be something it's definitely not going to be started by Russia because there is no sense in that, and if you really believe in the boogieman and that Russia is evil then you're mistaken because if it was really that way believe me you would all be dead by now.

All the ex-soviet countries in some degree have this artificial hate towards Russia which was created during the cold war, which is funny because some of those countries were pumped with money and infrastructure.. and nothing was touched after the fall... they for some reason want compensation... bwhaha ok


As for USA, they are not bad, and we don't want to destroy them, it is obvious that the administration of the country has lost the grip to reality... and the funny thing is that noone is arguing with Obama lol want to rule the world? do it' we don't give a shit just don't kill us all in the process and prove yourself to be efficient at what you want to do... by blaming Russia for everything and having speeches saying ''if US is not going to lead no one else will'' that's a pretty big statement, beside that I'm pretty sure that USA could have build a bigger capital without war and the ridiculous amount they spend on useless technology that gets surpassed by Chinese for like 10x less money.


Oh and it does not matter that you believe in your super power, against China that's not going to help...

So all that's happening is NATO and Russia are traditionally measuring their dicks at the borders (lol nato and the soldiers that were pissing all over Latvian monuments...)    meanwhile the media is having a bit of information war, and don't be naive to believe the prettiest or the most viewed source, since there is alot of people just streaming over there and there is so much lobbying going on that's just ridiculous.

The glorification of who won the war is also part of the social structure and it's needed because you need a reason to be awesome, you can notice that in the behaviour of the people that don't have a glorified history :P that's kinda necessary and it was quite a smart move, but now you will have to live with the consequences and responsibilities that probably were not taken in to account and now there is noone to blame and there is a large chunk of population that actually believed in the black and white presentation.

Most of the people are just part of the system and there is no such thing as ''do something'' the least we can do is being informed of whats going on, because there is going to be a moment when can do something.  Hating and blaming  is not going to help that's for sure.

I might be wrong, but then again we would die so quick that you wouldn't even notice that something's up

Despite all the horrible things that this has caused watching the political and media part it's funny because it's just like Kindergarten, oh and at the end it's the Russians)) we probably killed the dinosaurs or something.