Sfc

[lonelll]

Where are them  ,what did they became , what happened they disapeard like a beautiful girl that u meet in the subway

[BojanS]

... disapeard like a beautiful girl that u meet in the subway

I love you dude.

[lonelll]

Eww

[thejorens]

The SFC nomenclature was banned alongside Talya since they were deemed a bad influence on everyone

[lonelll]

Oh strange

[Talya_taya]

Where are them  ,what did they became , what happened they disapeard like a beautiful girl that u meet in the subway

We noticed we werent wanted anymore around, so something was taken, was changed a bit and was given into public and was showed as a rulebreak, funny thing was why a 3 years old member would do such thing? But no need to ask cos I am sure most of people are aware of the truths, at least the people that knows me, corruption and doing stuff by the will has always been a part of the people who were in charge of something, this no matter IRL or IG, shows itself very well, since no one will question the management, about the administration part, I have nothing to say to Administration as I know they only know what they re told or maybe even nothing. About managers side, I dont really think they care about truth anymore, I have caught Management had done lots of things without will or being even aware of it, insufficienty of the questioning ofc. (Im not saying random things since I especially heard this a lot times from a specific manager, he knows himself :]] ) and the division leader, I dunno if he wanted to understand stuff from wrong side or constantly wanted to use it against me, but people can be sure and know that Im not brainless enough to say something in-game chat to get myself banned and get SFC restricted. If there is one that knows how management follows people, as being a 3 years old veteran, Im one of the people who knows how stuff goes rly well.

Enjoy locking tai.

[And no offense was meant, no matter how you want to see it, Im underlining this for you Tai, cos man, you re getting offended easily, I know you see this sentence offensive aswell, but I tried my best all the time for you not to feel offended, dunno how to stop it, Im sorry ]

The SFC nomenclature was banned alongside Talya since they were deemed a bad influence on everyone

Oh btw, dont listen this type of people, they have no idea about the truth and only will post random stuff about their guesses. If anybody wants to know truth, I am as always telling the truth, will tell to you too. My PM is open.


Edit: Im not willing to discuss anything at least in public topic. This post was meant to clear the things from my side. So I hope this topic wont turn into a place which none of us will ever want.  

[lonelll]

Tht sad and thing that u said are things that i belive now and tht why i feel like im hated but i wanna check something on other servers

[Armelin]

Dude I will give you the most honest explanation for your ban you will ever get out of us.


Let's start by "offensive", we don't think you were offensive with us, I personally never cared about what you said about the server or admins. So take that word out of the ban reason.


When I became a manager the first meeting I had with the managers and community managers had the main topic of official clans. SFC was the top in our list, Tai and Dell even mentioned promoting you to moderator.


After that meeting things went down the hill, Mark and somebody else left your clan, and your reaction was to ignore them. Suddenly SFC was /reporting ex members for "forcing us to RP" and I'm talking tons of reports.


Then I have this feeling that you thought you were untouchable, SFC was no longer talking with 90% of the server, all of that because of a non sense black list you made, your attitudes made you become a dictator, SFC members were really just pawns your were playing your chess with.


Conclusion we banned you and your clan because it was the best for everyone in it, and I understand how big that slap was for you but unless you take that public enemy mentality off your head we will not allow you anywhere near our server. That being said I would be happy if you could stop posting in our division board.

Final edit: For me you are just like S1mon on SA-MP, people can't say a word to you with out you overly reacting to it and start a ton amount of bia-tching.

[lonelll]

I remeber when u were talking with honig tayla he told you something abt it too( forcing rp and all that stuff) :o armelin  u said ****

[Talya_taya]

Dude I will give you the most honest explanation for your ban you will ever get out of us.


Let's start by "offensive", we don't think you were offensive with us, I personally never cared about what you said about the server or admins. So take that word out of the ban reason.


When I became a manager the first meeting I had with the managers and community managers had the main topic of official clans. SFC was the top in our list, Tai and Dell even mentioned promoting you to moderator.


After that meeting things went down the hill, Mark and somebody else left your clan, and your reaction was to ignore them. Suddenly SFC was /reporting ex members for "forcing us to RP" and I'm talking tons of reports.


Then I have this feeling that you thought you were untouchable, SFC was no longer talking with 90% of the server, all of that because of a non sense black list you made, your attitudes made you become a dictator, SFC members were really just pawns your were playing your chess with.


Conclusion we banned you and your clan because it was the best for everyone in it, and I understand how big that slap was for you but unless you take that public enemy mentality off your head we will not allow you anywhere near our server. That being said I would be happy if you could stop posting in our division board.

Final edit: For me you are just like S1mon on SA-MP, people can't say a word to you with out you overly reacting to it and start a ton amount of bia-tching.

So the reason from Provoking administrations and community to became what? Now you say you had nothing to do with my so called offending administration and community. I see and understand your reason and there was a reason for it.

But I am asking you 4 people.. Managers and Tai, as a player, couldnt you at least ask me what is the situation? Is a player or at least me that worthless? All of you know I have at least tried to support server and help administration as much as I could.

You ll not care about my reasons anyway, but in case you wonder, In 2011, SFC was the only group in town, was opened with a random guy I found on way , he gave me the idea then got lost from the server forever. I started to create this gang from scratch, took my friends in and maybe not that successful but created a big oftenly rping gang. Then I got banned for having rulebreaking members and administration[In that times division leader was Dellstorm] told me that I had rulebreaking members. Well yea ofc fails are being and somehow it ended up I was training them to become rulebreakers, well that was funny but at least Dellstorm showed me the respect to talk to me before banning me and at least we discussed 30 mins.

The reason of our blacklist was that, that I got my lesson with trusting too much and its now a way to hold people away that might cause sth we dont will to. I know it wasnt right but a temporary solution I found and I was going to start to be softer on that thing on some point. Though these decisions were asked if its fine for all and was discussed.

Anyway, which point of it can be counted as a ban reason, I wonder, why are you caring what I feel about myself much? And why do you care about my members leaving team? In case you wonder lemme explain em too.

Mark left SFC for the first time because he wanted to be able to have different roles, yet due to him being unable to join our rps as SFC, he left the gang, he later joined because he said he couldnt find opportunities to roleplay and joined us.

Mark was kicked from SFC because I knew I was going to be banned and whenever a leader gets banned whole members get banned so I gathered my members and said that if I get banned due to them being in my team, their past will be affected bad and in case they have future plans like joining into anyother group or administration, it may affect them.

CokeInMyNose a.k.a Valentine a.k.a VincentV left the gang to join FBI, without telling us anything and when I found him and contacted he simply ignored our 3 years old friendship[he is a player from 2011 too] like never happened, and then he interrupted 3 roleplays of ours by forcing roleplay by using privileges of LCPD Duty. And on those events, there were no reason to use his duty privileges on me, and since he is 3 years old friend and no one else can know better than me how he rps, obviously they werent rp attempts but basically abusive attempts, we decided to blacklist him also and ofc reports with force to rp.

As I know reporting my ex member can have a point with this ban too.. No anyother force to rp report was done except BojanS which at the end I was found as right side by LCPD's interrogation. I was abused yet no any admin proceeded to location due their absence.

About your conclusion; you banned me and my gang because... I wont be able to say because, because; the ban reason[Provoking Administration and Community] and the thing you say[You re not banned for being offensive.] are a big "?" in head. That being said, I ll keep posting wherever I want as long as I want with any reason I want no matter what you 4 people will be thinking about me because; I dont rulebreak anything. And these things you counted has nothing to do with my ban either.

I mean, why do you care if I feel like a dictator? [Which I dont feel, lol this is a game and a grand part of the server knows me very well and a big part of it is my friend.]

About Final Edit, So I am a human being and I have good and bad times too and this can be carried into server with some people? I have always known to be sorry and said to those I felt I offended without a reason. About others, even if someone do really bad things in server and at the end if for real, coming from heart says sorry to me, I have always known to smile and forget the past, both IRL and IG. As long as I dont disrespect people and people werent reporting me, again why are you in my relations?

[Armelin]

Mark was kicked from SFC because I knew I was going to be banned and whenever a leader gets banned whole members get banned so I gathered my members and said that if I get banned due to them being in my team, their past will be affected bad and in case they have future plans like joining into anyother group or administration, it may affect them.

You just proved what I said, its always about you, why in this world would we ban a innocent guy for being in your group? A leader always knows how to pick his substitute.

As long as I dont disrespect people and people werent reporting me, again why are you in my relations?

Yes people were reporting you, yes you were reporting them and yes you were disrespectful.
/report means hey admin I need help here, I didn't go in your relations because I wanted to, you put me into them and thats why I MUST care.


If you stop this paranoia of being hunted by players or admins then in my opinion you will be able to sit down and play this game, if you don't it will always be you fighting against the system and putting your friends in a bad position.
Hopefully you will have the decency of not replying to this anymore, we are all done with this.

[Talya_taya]

You just proved what I said, its always about you, why in this world would we ban a innocent guy for being in your group? A leader always knows how to pick his substitute.

Yes people were reporting you, yes you were reporting them and yes you were disrespectful.
/report means hey admin I need help here, I didn't go in your relations because I wanted to, you put me into them and thats why I MUST care.


If you stop this paranoia of being hunted by players or admins then in my opinion you will be able to sit down and play this game, if you don't it will always be you fighting against the system and putting your friends in a bad position.
Hopefully you will have the decency of not replying to this anymore, we are all done with this.

While you dont even show the respect of reading my comment fully [I noticed you started to post as soon as you got in topic] and reject to answer my questions, why would I have so-called decency of not replying here?

You just proved what I said, its always about you, why in this world would we ban a innocent guy for being in your group? A leader always knows how to pick his substitute.

Might it be because in this short life one can be understood wrong and have a problem with it in future? A nice proof of you not reading my post.

Yes people were reporting you, yes you were reporting them and yes you were disrespectful.
/report means hey admin I need help here, I didn't go in your relations because I wanted to, you put me into them and thats why I MUST care.

If so you MUST read from start to end, instead of judging the cover of the book. You re always relying on reports,
"Bla bla reported bla bla for bla bla." Oh fine this guy has a problem you say, nothing else. You dont question for obvious reasons. You dont know what happens why happens you just see that line and judge , and this is not only for me you do this for every single person in that server.

[victor2662]

I really dont see the point of re-opening this discussion. The decision was taken many months ago. There is nothing else to say here that hasnt been said already. People need to learn that their actions has consequences. And all that talk about corruption is just useless. This needs to be locked.

[Talya_taya]

I really dont see the point of re-opening this discussion. The decision was taken many months ago. There is nothing else to say here that hasnt been said already. People need to learn that their actions has consequences. And all that talk about corruption is just useless. This needs to be locked.

Dont worry, it will be locked soon cos while the truth is on my side and I can freely talk about it, armelin now tries to create some other reason(which he cant push on things he doesnt know/which has nothing to do with this subject), I wonder why he never opened the case about the thing he said that I have to talk to his face instead of behind(like I dunno that chatlog was being followed by them) somehow u guys reread it and saw what exactly I meant and with what purpose I wrote? Anyway i didnt post it with a willing of discussion but I wont let my name used with random non-propely known things. Both sides are aware of truth, or simply the administration side doesnt want to accept the true things and proofs I show. Its common for human being not to accept their own fault and when its higher ranks no matter which world, more pressure falls on it.

[Armelin]

I apologize for everyone who saw this topic as this reality exposure wasn't necessary.
Tayla I wish you the best in RL but this is a dead end.