IV:MP Needs to Improve.

[Danny Soulson]

Today RP shown how the IV:MP would live up again.
Nice everyone.

[yaz000n]

Today RP shown how the IV:MP would live up again.
Nice everyone.

I was not in game today so i missed it , if its possible to tell me about it in Forum PM ? i am interested

[James Conway]

Today RP shown how the IV:MP would live up again.
Nice everyone.

Imagination and creativity lies in your own hands.

[ahmedXD]

They all migrated to GTA V 

[Mark]

What is also lacking is general knowledge of roleplay rules by admins. Like forcing roleplay, half of the team thinks that it's forcing someone to roleplay with you while he is afking or trying to appear afk because he does not give shit about interacting with another individual.
Is this a roleplay server? The atmosphere is of a freeroam server with basic rules about roleplay. I'm getting told that i cannot roleplay a corrupt cop because it goes server rules, afaik there aren't rules about this. The only rule close to it is "You must act like the skin duty does require you to be acted" from here.
I have been told also that i cannot perform regular traffic stops because it's "illegal", what am i supposed to do as cop other than watching the copbaiters speeding all the way Outlook - DPD ? It's my right to interact in the server, and this right is slowly dying, killed by those who care only about numbers.
Let's be honest, it has been like this since years, lately (like last 2 years) the only roleplays going on are cops vs criminal, it's stupid to consider it RP for the way they end (Look at my channel videos, it's full of examples). At this point you can rename the server to "Argonath Freeroam and Cops vs Robbers". All the time i spent trying to explain to a newbie that roleplay is more than going to kill someone is just useless if the administration itself has a low knowledge about such rules. This may be offensive towards the administration but i can't find other words to describe how horrible it is to attempt an interaction without getting either carkilled by newbies or "punished" because you are the player and the admin told you to act as some unknown rules state in an outdated topic. All what i want is transparency and clarifications on rules for everyone.

[Dennis.]

I visited twice IV:MP and it didn't attract me :/ They didn't cost that much attention on client I guess(gta staff)

[yaz000n]

What is also lacking is general knowledge of roleplay rules by admins. Like forcing roleplay, half of the team thinks that it's forcing someone to roleplay with you while he is afking or trying to appear afk because he does not give shit about interaction with another individual.
Is this a roleplay server? The atmosphere is of a freeroam server with basic rules about roleplay. I'm getting told that i cannot roleplay a corrupt cop because it goes server rules, afaik there aren't rules about this. The only rule close to it is "You must act like the skin duty does require you to be acted" from here.
I have been told also that i cannot perform regular traffic stops because it's "illegal", what am i supposed to do as cop other than watching the copbaiters speeding all the way Outlook - DPD ? It's my right to interact in the server, and this right is slowly dying, killed by those who care only about numbers.
Let's be honest, it has been like this since years, lately (like last 2 years) the only roleplays going on are cops vs criminal, it's stupid to consider it RP for the way they end (Look at my channel videos, it's full of examples). At this point you can rename the server to "Argonath Freeroam and Cops vs Robbers". All the time i spent trying to explain to a newbie that roleplay is more than going to kill someone is just useless when the administration itself has a low knowledge about the rules. This may be offensive towards the administration but i can't find other words to describe how horrible it is to attempt an interaction without getting either carkilled or punished because you are the player and the admin told you to act as some unknown rules state in an outdated topic. All what i want is transparency and clarifications on rules for everyone.

You are GOD DAMN RIGHT

[Danny Soulson]

True, All of the roleplays (98%) were only about cops&robbers,

I Thought of a Idea long time ago So.. I`ll Post it here, There should be a group named like ? "Event Creators (EC)"
These people are gonna gather people make events, (Being able to spawn , Change time , Teleport,
This group will gather people make roleplay Events. Example: "Zombie Apocalypse" , "Ebola Breakout" , "Terrorist Attack" , "President Transport" ...etc
This should probably increase Roleplay Alot,
These people should make events like 2 Events per day or Even more!
And Maybe All participants should get like prizes for Participating in those RP events. (money)


Suggestions:

More Strict Rules:
Freecops Should only use Police Crusiers.
Freecops Must Follow Traffic Regulations (All Law enforcers Included)
Police Must Perform Traffic Stops ..etc
Jail Time 10 Minutes
Freecops should be Supervised By LCPD (Officer+) (Also Punishments included, Random shooting = Suspection, When Freecops Kill their Comrade they should be suspected and investigated, (Once They do such there should be punishments like Suspension or such)...
Removing State Cars, Adding Ability for new players to buy a Beginner car that they will use as their own)   = Increasing Usage of Taxi services
And Also the thing i suggested long time ago "/surp" The ability to suspect someone for a Roleplay (Suspects dont loose money or Respect) (Probably may increase Roleplays)
And making some idea for Medics since they are not much of use atm.




I think by this i think the IV:MP Could live up again.

[Leroy_Kolta]

I don't see what the problem is here. Back when I played IVMP, there wasn't a whole lot of script support or many players for that matter. But you know what? I roleplayed with what I had in front of me using imagination and ideas. Yeah, there isn't that many players, but if you look around on the server manager, you don't see many servers with a whole lot of players either. The IVMP client is very limited to what it can do and it just plain isn't well supported like SA:MP is.

Roleplay events are only a temporary solution, and stricter rules will make your player count drop. Try to do some old fashioned RP and then advertise on youtube or something on what you've accomplished. I know when Batta was still around, he would record videos and stuff of DD events or police chases and it would attract people.

So yeah, just have some fun and enjoy...it's a game after all.

You all need to remember that we're human beings and administration isn't perfect, but neither are you.
So live and learn by example and maybe help out the new people who rulebreak and try to push them towards the other side. I know Rami helped me out when I was new and now I'm doing pretty well...in the SAMP server. But you know what? I'm from IVMP, and IVMP will always have a place in my heart.

Anyways, you'll start to see me and several other Kolta members in game more often, once I get out of the hospital.

They all migrated to GTA V 

Not true. I'm a GTA V leader for Argo and the activity for Argonath as a group is extremely low. Most of them have actually gone over to SAMP. I don't want to brag about SAMP, cause this is a topic of development for IVMP so I won't go there.

Imagination and creativity lies in your own hands.

Yup.

[Mark]

You clearly can't see it because you've not had occasion to play. Lately i have seen more restrictions for those who want to roleplay, killing the opportunity to perform regular traffic stops is one of them. Sure you can try something different but let's be real, you will end up roleplaying only with yourself.
Events? No thanks , i filled the whole lifestyle section till now.
I can try as much i want to introduce players into roleplay but there will be always the main issue, roleplay scenarios are inexistent. This is a roleplay server yet the administration says that you can avoid a roleplay if you don't want to do it, is this what you want? A bunch of players stunting and speeding all around the map? Why shouldn't we try to introduce some stricter rules on HOW and WHY you should roleplay? Wouldn't it be more attractive for new comers? I'm asking some help in this, and the current "hidden" changes are not helping at all.

[Arthur]

It may be my last post because I am done seeing many ideas and discussions related to that subject being ignored, but my words will be limited to some basics which must be changed as soon as possible. This has been discussed several times but seemingly, nobody cares. I don't get the point of letting freecops drive state vehicles on duty, how could that be a kind of role-playing?! Freecops do whatever they feel like doing, why aren't freecops under the command of the LCPD?! Do you know if you make freecops under the command of the LCPD, you will present more role-playing chances?!  The LCPD has a topic for complaints on ARPD forums, if any cop abuses a player nevertheless of that cop's rank "ARPD Officer or an LCPD official", that player can easily forward it to the LCPD command staff and it will be reviewed immediately, all what you have to do is presenting screenshots of that Officer abusing you. For example, you are driving within the speed speed and an Officer pops up, pulling you over for no reason. You should act like the following steps:

1) Role-play taking out your phone or anything you can record with.
2) Start recording from the moment when that cop abused you and make sure you have taken enough evidence against that cop.
3) Head to ARPD forums, GTA IV section and present your case in the LCPD complaints topic.

Once you have followed all these steps, the LCPD command staff would review your case and you would get an answer immediately. This is a police matter, I don't really get why admins interfere when a cop drives recklessly or breaks the law or is being corrupted or is caught doing illegal stuff, as Mark mentioned, can't a cop role-play being corrupted?! We have FBI agents and detectives for a reason, don't we? But admins deal with such cases instead of letting FBI agents and detectives do their job AND it's their job to handle such cases, let agents and detectives do their job by gathering information, questioning that cop why he is doing that and they would make the right decision to punish that cop. Admins are given power which isn't supposed to have; police abuse, law breaking on duty and corruption MUST be handled by the LCPD and the FBI not by admins. Freecops must be under the command of the LCPD and using cruisers on duty is must, not driving fancy vehicles or trucks as if we were in a race.

It has always been like that over the years and has never changed, a daily repetitive scenario "An Officer catches a reckless driver above the speed limit, the Officer lights up sirens and tries to pullover that reckless driver but that driver doesn't stop and keeps running away. The Officer calls for a back-up, the back-up comes and manages to eliminate the driver's vehicle, the driver gets out of their vehicle and runs away, the Officers take out their weapons and start shooting randomly, some Officers fall down due to friendly fire and eventually the suspect is taken out after about 100 bullets?". This has become a common thing, so what do you expect of newcomers on seeing this kind of incidents?! This happens daily and suspects never seek to role-play to have an advantage, sadly, this is done by the most veteran players on the server who are supposed to encourage role-playing.

Well, I don't understand why the court officials are still in their positions and not fired yet? They have been inactive for a long time and nobody takes care of people's cases, I believe there are so many active cases that haven't been reviewed yet. In my point of view, 30% of role-playing relies on the server's functions and scripts while 70% relies on the player's role-playing skills and imagination, I admit that we could have a better role-playing chances, if we have a more stable client but stop blaming the client because you don't just seek to role-play. Hopefully, I'd get an answer from the server manager or leaders, because it has been a serious matter and must be discussed. Lastly, I appreciate James Conway's efforts to encourage players to role-play.

[gabrielkiriac]

I don't really get why admins interfere when a cop drives recklessly or breaks the law or is being corrupted or is caught doing illegal stuff

Rules state that cops must follow the laws while on duty. Hence the admins interfering when cops break laws. And as I know being corrupted is illegal so... You figure it out.

using cruisers on duty is must

Freecops driving state cars -> people moaning.
Freecops not being able to drive state cars -> people would moan due to "restricting RP" or whatever reason they find next.

You want freecops under LCPD's command? I wonder how you gonna keep freecops under control when they won't stop, may even carkill you and especially not giving a damn about what you say. Only thing you could do is copban. Ya think that'd stop them? I don't.
Things are as they're supposed to be since this is a light RP server, don't forget that.

[Mark]

"Light RP" , explain it, please. Carkilling is against server rules, doesn't matter if it's a cop or a civilian doing that, Kevin is talking about giving LCPD more control on freecops. Corruption has to be handled either by LCPD or FBI, especially this one that has nothing to work with, except for a few drug dealers (i guess). I don't see why admins should interfer in corruption cases, as i said previously leaders should come clear and transparent on this. We are tired of being ignored, we know some of you are busy with real life, we all have one, but at least you could spend 5 minutes to answer instead of reading only.

[superh2o]

I have witnesses FBI taking charge over police officers who were missusing there power to Aid a suspect for some reason, they are dealing with corrupt officers from what i seen, truth may be im not that active and i dont see all that happens.

But I beleve best way posible to keep freecops in shape would be a coalition of Admins and LCPD staff (yes that existed all this time).

All things that fall under rulebreaks no matter if player is on duty or not should be handled by staff only, there were few incidents of people in certin posisions abusing there powers in a vigilante way. And that act of vigialnce lead to a ban that may not have been justifyed (even tho i was the admin who issued the ban), and yes that player was unbanned as soon as Managers checked the details.

So yes, seems there is a bit of bad history of people missuing there position, in a unaceptable way.

But i do think, if players would not be lazy to write complaints and reports on IVMP ARPD forums, Police could be keept under control by both the ARPD staff and admins if needed.

So IF player start writing reports we will start seperating the good from the bad, thats all I can say for rulebreaks or abuse of police powers that will be handled by ARPD staff.

About roleplay well that is simple lead by example keep trying, i been killed trying to RP on a lot of ocasions and im still not giving up on trying to RP when i have a chance, few things that some players seem to forget are Suspection isnt needed for something to be called a RP, guns are not needed for RP, all what you need to RP is imagnation and free time. And the last thing that is not needed is killing, you can just RP kill someone and leave, with satisfaction knowing that you did what many failed to do.

Also one last thing,there isnt a post here was ignored i know for a fact Armelin (and admins and some players i know) read all thats writen there, what gets implemented well thats another thing, as you know the Client has tons of limitations, so you all keep posting your ideas you will never be ignored.